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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 9,782
    edited December 2013
    "But how long from the time the C7 was known until the Mustang was designed? Cutting it pretty close, IMO."

    From Iacocca's books, and others I've read through the years, in the industry there have always been spies that know what the other guy is doing waaayyyyy before it's released to the public.

    I just find it very, very hard-to-believe that such a nearly-identical shape would make it onto two makers' top-image-sports cars without some inside scoop from somewhere.

    I've argued on these forums before that Corvette is the only true American car like it, when others have compared a Mustang to a Corvette. I compare a Mustang to a Camaro, but not to a Corvette, in concept. I think Ford was trying to inject a little 'Vette into its Mustang. Your opinion may vary. ;)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,064
    It's such a generic motif, I think it's purely coincidence. It's like saying 'someone copied my circle".

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 9,782
    Well, if you say so, but I can think of only two cars that share that size and shape, and both are that company's flagship sports cars. ;)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,545
    edited December 2013
    The windows appear to be of a significantly different size, the Corvette being much smaller (and probably carrying it better). As you say, Mustangs also compete with Camaros, not Corvettes. One has usually been a bit smaller, lighter, and cheaper than the other.

    I see it as more of a played out styling trend than specifically copying that car, seeing I can think of at least 3 other 2-door cars that have had a very similar trait for many years now. For some, a little upkick or flourish at the C-pillar is a way to show "character" - ask Lexus, who does something mildly similar.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,064
    edited December 2013
    Oh no I've seen that motif for many years. It's pretty old hat.

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 9,782
    "The windows appear to be of a significantly different size"

    Not to my eyes, but I haven't seen the Mustang in person and only saw a C7 in person for the first time this morning.
  • texasestexases Posts: 7,853
    It's such a minor styling element, not like it defines the car's 'look'.

    As for folks calling the Mustang the equivalent of the Stingray/Corvette:
    hahahahahahahahahaha....

    You're correct, it's always been the Camaro/Mustang war.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 854
    1956 Chrysler New Yorker.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,064
    Camaro's a much nicer every day car.

    The Shelby GT500 is a real beast though--it'd give a Vette a run for the money.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,545
    It looks smaller on the Corvette, to me.

    Anyway, I see it as more coincidental than copycat. If that's a copycat, I can then say the Impala steals the greenhouse profile of the Fusion, who stole it from the A5/A7.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 9,782
    I think the Impala's rear-end styling is cribbed from the Sonata.

    Personally, I believe it's more likely that somebody swipes a Corvette styling cue, than the Impala from an unknown sales/image quantity like the new Fusion, but that's me. I'm just glad the Impala doesn't have the latest Ford 'fish mouth' grille look...MHO only of course.
  • berriberri Posts: 7,919
    OK I'll vote - Mustang. But I go by convertibles!
  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,545
    I'll agree with that, the big mouth look is getting old. Ford is milking the Aston connection for every penny it is worth, the Mustang has it too. And to their credit, it is working, the Fusion is a definite success.

    Faces on cars are even more tiresome. It works on a Bugeye Sprite, not on everything else.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Maybe it's the Cars movie influence but I'm more partial to the Camaro's looks.
  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,452
    edited December 2013
  • berriberri Posts: 7,919
    I like that the two pony cars are very different in looks, just like back in the late 60's and early 70's.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    I'll go for the VW bug in the lower right. Er, late 50s?

    Is this a movie still? Those cars are all pretty shiny.
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,792
    Darn! You nailed the only one I have a clue about.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,545
    At far left looks like an Austin A40/Devon, another of which is seen perpendicular to the street towards the top. The car at the front of the line looks like a Ford Prefect, perhaps. Nearest the Beetle is a Fiat Topolino.
  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,452
    I think the VW is a bit earlier _ it looks like a split back window to me. The cars are all shiny because they were then fairly new - the picture was taken in Haarlem Holland, in 1954.
  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,452
    edited December 2013
    The two Austins are A40 Devons - well done for spotting the one in the distance - its not a very big picture. The Ford Prefect is the E493A model which was in production until 1953, I think, and the Fiat is a 500 Topolino - many were built before the war as it was introduced in 1936, but the 500A went on until 1948, and the 500B was in production for another year or so - the separate headights didn't go until right at the end of 1949with the 500C, so given how shiny this one is I would imagine it is post war. It is also possible that it could be a Simca, or even Neckar-Fiat from Germany, but the Italian version is probably most likely.
    So, what is the black car following the Prefect?

    PS - the bus is apparently a British built Crossley - Dutch Railways had a large fleet of SD42's with local built bodies from the late 40's. (The guy who posted this picture knows his buses)...
  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,545
    The black car is a mystery to me. I can't pin it down - looks fairly British, but continental cars weren't much different. I know it's not American, for sure.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 26,009
    Is it an early Volvo?

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  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,452
    I thought this one would be more difficult. It looks very British, although it isn't, and although I can see where you are coming from with the Volvo it isn't one of those either.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,064
    Not British, eh? Gee it looks a lot like a Humber Hawk.

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  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,452
    I can see that too - it looks a lot like a Lea Francis, but it really isn't British.
    Another clue, then - the country it does come from used to drive on the left until the war, like we still do now - and it isn't Sweden which when this picture was taken was still driving on the left.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,064
    Oh, I get it. It must be made in Iceland.

    No, that can't be right. Maybe a Czech car?

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,545
    I think the latter is true. I know Tatra T87 were exported to the Netherlands after the war (although this isn't a Tatra).
  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,452
    So Czech what else was made there - Czechoslovakia drove on the left from its foundation in 1919 until it was seized by the Nazis in 1938/9...
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