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  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,185
    There's really one other large scale maker, still in business today (with design help from the fatherland - and I am trying to see if someone else can guess :) )
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,815
    edited December 2013
    Skoda? Can't place a vehicle made by Skoda that looks quite like that...maybe a Model 1102?

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,783

    I cannot think of any Skoda which looks like the black car and cannot think of any other Czech manufacturers from that era.


  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,783

    This has taken far more time and thinking than most, but I found a You-tube of a 1950 Skoda 1102 Tudor Saloon from somewhere in Canadian which looks similar. Even found a rear shot of another 1102 where the two boot handles are apparent.

    Skoda enjoyed a good reputation in Australia in the 1950's and the local distributor was both profitable and listed on the Stock Exchange.

    A 1952 story, originally appearing in the Melbourne Truth, is interesting reading

    The Melbourne "Truth" writes:
    Trust the Continental people to
    produce something just a bit dif
    ferent in the way of motor cars.
    We are referring to the Skoda, for
    many years well known in Europe,
    but entirely a newcomer on the
    Melbourne market
    It comes from Czechoslovakia
    and arrives on the Melbourne
    wharves wanting only the wheels
    braced on, a battery connected,
    and petrol put in the tanks.
    The Czechs know their body
    building and the first impression
    is of flawless finish. The second is
    of accessibility and a more de
    tailed examination discloses many
    refinements on what is basically a
    conventional o.h.v. of 11.4 h.p.
    Among the refinements we
    Gravity feed petrol tank, which.
    with the radiator, generator, coil
    or distributor could be removed in
    a matter of a couple of minutes;
    "One-shot" lubrication, which
    means that by stepping on a lung
    er near the pedals the chassis can
    be lubricated without hoists or.
    grease gun;
    That the back seat can be en
    tirely removed in 30 sees, and the
    6-ft. long flat space extending into
    the boot used for commercial or
    camping purposes;
    That the conventional form of
    back axle has been replaced by a
    differential bolted to the chassis so
    that the back wheels are driven
    through universal joints as in
    front-wheel-drive cars. This gives
    independence of springing on all
    four wheels.
    We tested the springing on a
    slhort test at 40 over the
    cobbles near Victoria dock with
    very pleasing results indeed.
    Among other things we discov
    ered that the car went to the cus
    tomer with a really comprehensive
    set of tools even to tyre gauge
    and spare light globes.
    There appeared to be enough
    tools to tackle a rebore-except
    that the Skoda is not rebored.
    The principle is that you leave
    your car at the service station in
    the morning and pick it up at
    night, by which time the cylinder
    liners and pistons have been re
    placed. which is a slightly differ
    ent story from having to leave
    your car for a week.
    The cost is a bit different, too
    about £30 for a Skoda, and any
    thing from £60 to £80 for most other
    Maker's specifications claim
    maximum speed of 70 and petrol
    consumption 35 m.p.g. at 30 m.p.h.

    I am intrigued by the reference to the ease of doing a rebore as a one day changeover. I cannot imagine doing a major engine out rebore in a day, even now!


  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 845
    I'll take one!
  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,430
    Well done - and to graham for finding a lot more about it... This is either a four door version of the 1101 or more likely (because more were made) the 1102 - that also had a slightly longer wheelbase I think and the one in the picture looks longer.

    They made about 67000 of these (more common in two door form) between 1946/52,and according to the author David Randall in his history of Skoda, the whole range was known as Tudors - including the four door. Presumably it was a reference to a noble sounding name rather than the Ford way of naming a car according to the doors, but it wasn't sold in Britain so we never found out.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,728

    Notice that half the drivers don't know they should turn their lights on in the rain. Some things don't change much. :mad:

    Might as well call em off by rows.



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  • berriberri Posts: 7,858
    I'll take the 59 Pontiac convertible. Fin, there's a 60 Ford behind it.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 61,342
    Is that the 405 or the 101 in LA?


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  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,185
    You beat me to it. I am surprised so many are using lights, to be honest - not much different from today.

    I'll pick off the Triumph TR10 behind a ~55 Ford truck at lower left. Lots of good pickings in this pic, many should be able to chime in.

    It never rains in southern California.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 845
    I'll grab the 1951 Buick.
    Check out the grades of the exit and entrance ramps.
  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,430
    edited December 2013
    Your Triumph TR10 was a Standard 10 over here - is it my imagination or was this an Estate version - we knew that as a Standard Companion.

    Third car in outside lane - is it a 57 Pontiac?
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 845
    Los Angeles rainfall
    2009-2010 16.36 inches rain
    2010-2011 20.20 inches rain
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,862
    edited December 2013
    Los Angeles rainfall
    2009-2010 16.36 inches rain
    2010-2011 20.20 inches rain

    Put it in perspective - fin is in Seattle and annual rainfall is 36".

    Just for kicks I looked up my locale of Boston: 43" of rain and 41" of snow. Seattle is like Phoenix and LA is the Sahara desert in comparison.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 4,098
    Not the 405. I had thought it might be the 110, which is the oldest, but I have driven that path a lot of times. It is the 101 south of Highland street.

    You beat me to it - I was going to say I knew the highway, if not the cars!
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 845
    edited December 2013
    Yes, it's a 57 Pontiac and before and after it, 58 Cadillacs.
    Fin, salute Fort Lewis for me. Been there, done that.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,185
    And on the WA coast where my mother lives, the rainfall is usually 60-70". No thanks. Although this part of the country still has the best summers of anywhere I know.

    I was naming an old song :)
  • berriberri Posts: 7,858
    "It never rains in southern California"

    Nope - it's all just Pacific Shelf Overhang as the weather people call it :-)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,185
    edited December 2013
    There was indeed an estate version of that car sold in NA, along with the sedan. They seem to have a good survival rate for something that might have dissolved when wet.

    Here's one:

  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,208
    59 Ford wagon going away.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,728
    I was unaware of the Tenever having been sold in the US officially or being badged as a Triumph TR-10 but there is a reference to it in the wikipedia in the entry for the Standard Ten.

    You learn something every day in this topic. Stirling Moss once owned a Standard Ten IIRC.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,704
    There is a Rambler 2 back from the black beetle.

    I love pictures from this era. Really points out how radically cars changed in just a few years. You don't see that much of a difference in 5-10 model years these days!

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,728
    For some reason no one has mentioned the middle car in the first row which happens to be the newest car in the photo, a white 1962 Chevrolet.

    I am struck by the lack of imported cars in this 1962 photo of an LA Freeway, there's only one VW and that oddball Triumph TR10. Where are the MGs, Jags and Renaults?

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,728

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  • " Where are the MGs, Jags and Renaults? "

    Um, in the shop?
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 845
    edited December 2013
    1962 Dodge Polara 500.
    I may have seen that car at the Englishtown, N.J. dragstrip.
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,787
    " Where are the MGs, Jags and Renaults? "

    Um, in the shop?

    OK, that's not nice. It's accurate, but it's not nice.

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  • berriberri Posts: 7,858
    You pretty much seem to see these downsized 62 Dodge and Plymouth vehicles as muscle cars these days, even though the vast majority of them were probably modified.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,185
    It was raining. It's a wonder that Triumph was out in it.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,728
    1962 Dodge Polara 500.
    I may have seen that car at the Englishtown, N.J. dragstrip.

    Yep, and you might well have seen it in NJ, as you can tell from the plate, the car resides in the NY area (Glen Cove LI). This particular car was originally powered by a 426 but re-engined w a 440 Max Wedge.

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