We had a neighbour with a Renault 30 - he had a 20 before that too. The Peugeot 504 was still being assembled in Africa years after it stopped in Europe - in South Africa well into the eighties I think and in Nigeria they were still making the Estate until about 2000! I had a boss at one job who had a 604 but never rode in it - he drove badly and wrote it off so just as well. I still see a CX around here every few months - looks in good condition too. I think the Volvo 960 & 760 here had that engine too or a variant of it.
According to Wiki they kept making the 504 until 2006 in Nigeria. I saw them (as taxis) in Buenos Aires in the early 2000s, they stopped making them there in 2000.
Top picture, our neighbor had. The leather seats were super comfortable. Bottom picture, dad had (same color) as a company car. Both cars used the same engine. Quiz: What other car(s) used that engine?
Behind the lead Ford there's a car peeking out from it's right. My first thought was VW Karmann-Ghia but then I noticed it's larger than the Beetles in the picture. I'm calling a Volvo P1800/1800. Do you agree?
Behind the lead Ford there's a car peeking out from it's right. My first thought was VW Karmann-Ghia but then I noticed it's larger than the Beetles in the picture. I'm calling a Volvo P1800/1800. Do you agree?
No, I think it's a Karmann Ghia. The Volvo doesn't have that curvature on the bottom and top of the windshield while the KG does, and the hood opening on the KG matches the lines in the picture.
Looked at more pix of both Volvo and VW and conclude that you are correct, it is a K-G. The wiper blades of thr Volvo park on the vehicle's right but the wiper blade on the pictured car goes to the left.
What's the plaque above the license plate on the 59 Ford driven by Mayme and Edith?
Can't blow it up enough to read but given it's DC it probably allows one to park at a govt.facility
I think I might see 4 Beetles along with the K-G, impressive.
Again, it's DC where Beetles were very popular. The one to right of the Ford is an oldie with small front and rear glass and turn signals low on front=pre 1957. There's another older Beetle bringing up rear of the left lane.
What's the plaque above the license plate on the 59 Ford driven by Mayme and Edith?
I think I might see 4 Beetles along with the K-G, impressive.
I believe it's a Fairfax County "tag" I know a few locales in Virginia had small plates like this that attached to the plate as their county or city/town registration, before stickers attached to the windshield became common.
That's a Hillman Minx Mk V or VI of about 1953-5 although it was assembled in Japan as well from late 1953 by Isuzu, from CKD kits - I'm guessing this is the Rootes brochure rather than the Isuzu though.
Yeah, I got an early '60s GM feel from it, but I don't know what it is. Other sites folks are guessing various Mopars, I don't know about that. That fender is distinctive. It's a quad headlight car.
I can't ID the vehicles, but I have another question for @magnette.
I had never heard of Hatfield, so I decided to explore it on Streetview to see some more of those old buildings. I was astounded to not find any of them. It looks as though a nuclear bomb went off there in the 1960s and the entire place was rebuilt afterwards. Aside from the bomb, what happened? It doesn't necessarily look unpleasant, albeit somewhat crowded, but there is a remarkable sameness to the structures I saw. Where did all the history go?
In Hatfield foreground right, Austin A90 Atlantic. Foreground left (facing away) perhaps a Jowett Javelin. Van behind the Atlantic might be a Ford Thames.
@fintail You are right on the A90 Atlantic - Austins take on what America wanted in the late 40s - though the 4 cylinder engine didn't make too good an impression at the time and the car was seen elsewhere as ugly and out of date by the time they tried selling it in Europe - it wasn't popular here.
The Jowett Javelin was a novel model - they didn't have the money make it front wheel drive so it was just streamlined and fitted with a flat 4 cyl but a fun fact is that the body (influenced by the Lancia Aprilia) was actually designed by Gerald Palmer - and his next job was the new saloon - for BMC - which became the Wolseley 4/44 and ...MG Magnette... Not sure re the van though probably a Ford (or Fordson at this date)
Hatfield had a small but historic town centre until WW2 - with a significant aircraft factory - DeHavilland - where they built Mosquitos, the early jet Vampire, and eventually the Comet airliner, among others - You would think therefore that it was flattened by the Luftwaffe and while they had a go in practice it was instead laid low by the New Towns Act 1946, which established a plan to build new towns around London to get people away from former slums and to rehouse the many thousands who had been rendered homeless by the blitz.. They planned a ring of new towns - mostly based on a distance of thirty to forty miles from London - where they would build decent housing, new shopping centres and factories etc - they were mostly on main routes out of London - Hatfield is on the A1 which is the old (preRoman) route from London to Edinburgh etc, and (I've looked this up) found it necessary to remove much of the old town.
They decided that old Hatfield - founded in Saxon times- was on the wrong side of the main railway to London, and consequently the factories etc had to go the other side or the town would not function properly. So they built a whole new place in the fields and moved in about 25,000 people mostly from London - by the 1970's.
They did the same thing with another town - Harlow in Essex, only that was a bit further north East of London the main railway to Cambridge - there they built the new industry on one side of the new town (again the old town was effectively left as a village) but in that case the problem was the M11 motorway - to Cambridge - was supposed to go on the west of town, but the road people decided a few years after the main town was built that the traffic would be better on the East - so the town was facing the wrong way again..
In fairness these were towns which really got people out of slums so it was for a good cause but these decisions were scuppered by the change of government every five or ten years altering the long term planning...
Harlow did at least get a new airport - the reason the M11 goes where it ended up was called Stansted...
Above that Cortina I agree the the white wagon is a Kadette - it would be the Kadette B model I think Above the Cortina door mirror - is that pale blue/grey wagon a Falcon circa 1969?
Hatfield had a small but historic town centre until WW2 - with a significant aircraft factory - DeHavilland - where they built Mosquitos, the early jet Vampire, and eventually the Comet airliner, among others - You would think therefore that it was flattened by the Luftwaffe and while they had a go in practice it was instead laid low by the New Towns Act 1946, which established a plan to build new towns around London to get people away from former slums and to rehouse the many thousands who had been rendered homeless by the blitz.. They planned a ring of new towns - mostly based on a distance of thirty to forty miles from London - where they would build decent housing, new shopping centres and factories etc - they were mostly on main routes out of London - Hatfield is on the A1 which is the old (preRoman) route from London to Edinburgh etc, and (I've looked this up) found it necessary to remove much of the old town.
They decided that old Hatfield - founded in Saxon times- was on the wrong side of the main railway to London, and consequently the factories etc had to go the other side or the town would not function properly. So they built a whole new place in the fields and moved in about 25,000 people mostly from London - by the 1970's.
They did the same thing with another town - Harlow in Essex, only that was a bit further north East of London the main railway to Cambridge - there they built the new industry on one side of the new town (again the old town was effectively left as a village) but in that case the problem was the M11 motorway - to Cambridge - was supposed to go on the west of town, but the road people decided a few years after the main town was built that the traffic would be better on the East - so the town was facing the wrong way again..
In fairness these were towns which really got people out of slums so it was for a good cause but these decisions were scuppered by the change of government every five or ten years altering the long term planning...
Harlow did at least get a new airport - the reason the M11 goes where it ended up was called Stansted...
@Michaell Yes, Milton Keynes was effectively the largest of the New towns, but I think it was as a result of slightly later legislation
The area it now occupies in Buckinghamshire was just villages and a couple of really small towns (the largest is Wolverton which was only small place really) and went from nothing in the early sixties to a population of about 220,000 now
They didi spend a lot of time designing MK and it has more cycleways, environmental areas and woodland throughout.
We know people who live there and its quite nice although like all these places you have to enjoy roundabouts..
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Other sizes used in LOTS of cars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V6_PRV_engine#PRV_powered_automobiles
And the Delorean.
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The Peugeot 504 was still being assembled in Africa years after it stopped in Europe - in South Africa well into the eighties I think and in Nigeria they were still making the Estate until about 2000!
I had a boss at one job who had a 604 but never rode in it - he drove badly and wrote it off so just as well.
I still see a CX around here every few months - looks in good condition too.
I think the Volvo 960 & 760 here had that engine too or a variant of it.
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I think the mystery car in front is a Toyota pickup.
Next to the two tone 200SX a few cars in is an AMC Concord (maybe an Eagle).
PRV V6 engine was in the DeLorean.
Edit: didn't see the other replies
Behind the lead Ford there's a car peeking out from it's right. My first thought was VW Karmann-Ghia but then I noticed it's larger than the Beetles in the picture. I'm calling a Volvo P1800/1800. Do you agree?
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I think I might see 4 Beetles along with the K-G, impressive.
and rear glass and turn signals low on front=pre 1957. There's another older Beetle bringing up rear of the left lane.
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Its hard to equate that with the same people who brought out the Pacer...
I had never heard of Hatfield, so I decided to explore it on Streetview to see some more of those old buildings. I was astounded to not find any of them. It looks as though a nuclear bomb went off there in the 1960s and the entire place was rebuilt afterwards. Aside from the bomb, what happened? It doesn't necessarily look unpleasant, albeit somewhat crowded, but there is a remarkable sameness to the structures I saw. Where did all the history go?
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1964 Dodge.
And, a 1955! T-Bird.
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What’s the white wagon top center with a guy leaning in the door?
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The Jowett Javelin was a novel model - they didn't have the money make it front wheel drive so it was just streamlined and fitted with a flat 4 cyl but a fun fact is that the body (influenced by the Lancia Aprilia) was actually designed by Gerald Palmer - and his next job was the new saloon - for BMC - which became the Wolseley 4/44 and ...MG Magnette...
Not sure re the van though probably a Ford (or Fordson at this date)
Hatfield had a small but historic town centre until WW2 - with a significant aircraft factory - DeHavilland - where they built Mosquitos, the early jet Vampire, and eventually the Comet airliner, among others -
You would think therefore that it was flattened by the Luftwaffe and while they had a go in practice it was instead laid low by the New Towns Act 1946, which established a plan to build new towns around London to get people away from former slums and to rehouse the many thousands who had been rendered homeless by the blitz..
They planned a ring of new towns - mostly based on a distance of thirty to forty miles from London - where they would build decent housing, new shopping centres and factories etc - they were mostly on main routes out of London - Hatfield is on the A1 which is the old (preRoman) route from London to Edinburgh etc, and (I've looked this up) found it necessary to remove much of the old town.
They decided that old Hatfield - founded in Saxon times- was on the wrong side of the main railway to London, and consequently the factories etc had to go the other side or the town would not function properly.
So they built a whole new place in the fields and moved in about 25,000 people mostly from London - by the 1970's.
They did the same thing with another town - Harlow in Essex, only that was a bit further north East of London the main railway to Cambridge - there they built the new industry on one side of the new town (again the old town was effectively left as a village) but in that case the problem was the M11 motorway - to Cambridge - was supposed to go on the west of town, but the road people decided a few years after the main town was built that the traffic would be better on the East - so the town was facing the wrong way again..
In fairness these were towns which really got people out of slums so it was for a good cause but these decisions were scuppered by the change of government every five or ten years altering the long term planning...
Harlow did at least get a new airport - the reason the M11 goes where it ended up was called Stansted...
Above the Cortina door mirror - is that pale blue/grey wagon a Falcon circa 1969?
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Behind the Dart hardtop to the left of the wagon looks like a Volvo 144 coupe.
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Yes, Milton Keynes was effectively the largest of the New towns, but I think it was as a result of slightly later legislation
The area it now occupies in Buckinghamshire was just villages and a couple of really small towns (the largest is Wolverton which was only small place really) and went from nothing in the early sixties to a population of about 220,000 now
They didi spend a lot of time designing MK and it has more cycleways, environmental areas and woodland throughout.
We know people who live there and its quite nice although like all these places you have to enjoy roundabouts..