Mystery car pix

andys120

magnette

Well, it says 1967 on the plate, and it is a Chrysler, so I guess it is a New Yorker Hardtop.

hudsonthedog

1967 Chrysler Newport

andys120

Good eye on the plate, which I missed, it is a '67 Chrysler but I don't know
the model. Doh!

andys120

I assume the trailer is a custom.

lemko

Is that an upside-down boat on top of the trailer? Cool!

magnette

Actually I'd go with hudson. This is a Newport, not a New Yorker, because the latter had a horizontal chrome bar across each of he panels of the grille, whereas the picture you posted doesn't, and is therefore the Newport.

magnette

1953, Ford either a Mainline Ranch Wagon or a Customline Country Sedan. Trailer is great...

andys120

Close, it's a '52 Ranch Wagon. I was mistaken about the trailer which was made by Kom-Pak specifically for owners of '52 Fords. Here's another view>



Hemmings Article.

andys120

(Paris?) street scene from The Saint:

hudsonthedog

Okay...here goes....

On the right side of the street (starting with the first completely visible car):

Renault 4CV, Citroen 2CV, (don't know), Ford(?), (don't know), Citroen 2CV, (don't know), (don't know), Volkswagen Type 2...there's a Citroen van and a 2CV in the back, but can't name the rest of them

Driving down the street: Citroen DS

On the left side of the street (starting with the first completely visible car):

(looks familiar, but don't know), Citroen DS, (don't know), and can't make out the rest of them.

magnette

Ok - on the left;
Talbot-Lago(?), Citroen DS19, Peugeot 403, next car looks like a Reanult Fregate, but may be too small. Behind that, a Renault Dauphin ?
car in middle of road is a Ds19, (or ID19)
On the right.
Partially obscured white car may be some sort of Simca (or Ford) Vedette/Arianne. Then Renault 4cv/750,2cv,Fiat 600 Simca Aronde, the little car may be a Vespa 200, another 2cv, then a don't know ( one of those little Simca 8's ?), Peugeot 403, VW2.
in the distance, can't see much, but the dark car nose first to the kerb just by the building is a Renault Dauphin, and of course there is another 2cv.

magnette

Great trailer - real period piece....

lostwrench

It is a Chrysler Newport - 1967.
The big hint is the letter "N" on the license plate. (Newport).
The printed advertisement for the Chrysler 300 for 1967 had the letters "TH" on the license plate. (Three Hundred).

Ford did the same thing with its printed advertisement for the 1962 Mercury Comet which had on the licence plate "MC". (Mercury Comet).

andys120

Good Job, Hudson and Magnette.

The first car on the right side of the street (left on screen) is captioned by IMCDB as a '56 Talbot, I'm not sure if that was the same as a Talbot-Lago.

I once read that French-made Talbots are pronounced Talbow while British made Talbots are pronounced Tall-butt, is that correct ?

andys120

texases

2009 SL - new headlights, I'm not a fan..

magnette

Acually, I'm not sure when the -Lago bit ended with Talbot. Probably before that car, which is one of the last, so I would concur it is a Talbot. I think the pronunciation would be different too although I think that is more to do with the difference between English and French language than anything to do with the car makers themselves.

I've been thinking about that little car on the right-hand side. If it is a Vespa it would be a 400 ( despite my e-mail last night they never made a 200), but it doesn't look quite right somehow. It may be a Goggomobil, but there were also several other makes, in France, during the 'bubblecar' era, so it could be something else.

andys120

hudsonthedog

That looks to be a Lotus Cortina.

karsick

Yes!!!

A first generation Lotus Cortina to be specific.

Nice, nice car.

We have that car to thank for many hotted-up small sedans since. BMW M3, for one.

andys120

Yep 1963 Lotus-Ford Cortina Mk.II.

andys120

From It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World. I doubt anyone can make out the fourth car in the distance>

lemko

Blue and white car is a 1961 Chevrolet Impala, red convertible is a 1962 Dodge Polara, and the station wagon is a 1961 Chevrolet Nomad or Parkwood wagon. Can't tell the car way, way in back. It kind of looks like a 1958 Cadillac.

As for the actors, I believe Terry Thomas and Milton Berle are in the Chevy and Dick Shawn is driving the Dodge.

fintail

I recall the Impala was supposed to be a rental car, and it meets an unfortunate end on its roof soon after this shot

bumpy

If it was a rental car, shouldn't it have been a Biscayne? :P

lemko

It should've been a Biscayne, but you can see the car in the picture is a hardtop and they didn't have a Biscayne hardtop. One could argue it's a Bel Air hardtop, but I happened to see the movie and noticed the car had three taillights per side when the car flipped over.

By the way, my Dad once owned a 1961 Chevrolet Biscayne two-door sedan. His car was unusual for a Biscayne as it had the full disc wheelcovers and whitewall tires. It was cream-colored with a gray cloth and vinyl interior, powered by the inline six-cylinder engine mated to a three-speed tranny shifted via the column.

bumpy

The old stovebolt 6? What did they put in the cars, the 235?

fintail

I am sure they rented those too, but they rented Impalas back then as well (just as one can rent an Impala SS today, I guess)

Somewhere I have a pic of a rental lot in Anchorage after the 1964 earthquake, where a roof fell onto some cars in a parking area - there were 64 Impalas (2 door HTs even) among the mess.

magnette

Yet again I can't reply, bcause of this stupid margin, but the lotus Cortina is a Mark I, not a mark II. The first Cortinas - Ford or Lotus-Ford, were known as Ford Consul Cortinas, and they had a slightly different grille, with seperate sidelights. The facelift in I think 1964 made them Ford Cortinas, ( no Consul), and the grille changed to that on the posted car. The badge on the bonnet on this one says Cortina, whereas earlier cars would have said Consul.
The Mk II was a completely different shape, introduced for 1967.

texases

How do you tell the difference between a '62 Polara and a '62 Dart? We had a Dart growing up, looked like the movie car, as does the Polara. Our '64 Polara, OTOH, looked way different than a '64 Dart.

stever

Love to see the pic you have Fin.

hudsonthedog

It's a 1964 Chevrolet, but I'll leave it to the GM experts to narrow down the trim level. Could be a Biscayne....could be a Bel Air....could be an Impala....I just don't know.

lemko

I happened to see the movie and the Polara has fancier side trim near the back:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1962-- dodge-polara-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1962-dodge-polara-500- .htm&h=243&w=400&sz=41&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=qH0t7KPzCBYvdM:&tbnh=75&tbnw=124&prev- =/images%3Fq%3D1962%2BPolara%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Whereas the Dart:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eskimo.com/~jcauto/carpics/62D- art.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.eskimo.com/~jcauto/gallery.html&h=279&w=720&sz=115&- hl=en&start=10&tbnid=fxx6R60D9A5dVM:&tbnh=54&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1962%2B- Dart%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

By the way, how do you post pictures?

texases

Thanks for the links - just a trim level that year, it seems. As for pics, click the 'Img' button, paste the URL, then click the 'Img' button again.

oregonboy

Here ya go:

fintail

Good pic...that's the department store that collapsed, right?

When I was a kid I had a bit of a disaster obsession, I collected materials relating to such events. The pic I have is in a souvenir picture book printed probably shortly after the quake. I'll have to dig it out and scan it.

I also remember an image from that quake of a 58 Chevy wagon stuck on an uplifted street in a residential area. And of course all of the cars on the buckled streets in downtown.

I just did a quick search for other images...here's a good shot with some other oddball cars - I spot a 58 Ford and what looks like a Hillman Minx



This image is also in the book I have - I remember it. Flat Triumph

tomica

Here's a side shot of the same car from the imcdb web site It was supposed to be from AVIS. http://imcdb.org/images/020/259.jpg

And, another shot from the back - http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5429/imw30uo0.jpg

andys120

Interestingly enough the Blue/white Chevy is captioned on IMCDB as a "Biscayne" which I didn't question because it looked like a pillared sedan to me.

They caption the Dodge as a '62 Dart, there's a bunch of 'em in IAMMMW, including the black cop car that Spencer Tracy drives.

Anyone who registers is free to log in and discuss disputed car IDs on IMCDB.

stever

Right, that was a newly built JC Penny and it was razed and a bigger one built. They finally allowed rebuilding in that neighborhood with the Triumph back in the early 90's btw.

Cars in disasters - this could be a dicey thread....



Here's the source if you want a larger photo.

fintail

That's the image I remember most, for the Volvo 544 nestled amongst those big Chevies. Seems a lot of oddball European cars made it to Alaska back then. I once saw in an old video of the disaster, in one of the flooded towns (Seward?) a lowline fintail driving through the rubble. There weren't many of those anywhere.

Cars in disasters...I could get going on this...

Here's the above shot from another angle:



And this tsunami damage shot is a winner. Looks like an Isetta 600 (!) on a 62 Ford. Crazy

andys120

Something interesting about those pics of the Alaskan earthquake--where are the trucks? A picture of the same street taken today would show very few cars, the streets would be lined with 4x4 pickups, SUVs and so forth.

stever

The owners put them in gear and drove off before the cops blocked the road. :shades:

Here's a summer shot just down the same street - don't know the date. It's a stock photo so I'm just going to link to it.

karsick

Good question about 4x4's in Alaska!

Why are Florida freeways & malls (flat, ice-free, warm climate) crowded with burly H2's, ML350's, Navigators & Escalades??

Also, how on earth did the Swedes survive an entire century with no mainstream 4WD or AWD models??

I fully defend everyone's right to choose whatever they want, but some folk's car choices make me scratch my head. :confuse: :P

texases

In '64 trucks/4wd/etc were not common anywhere, Anchorage included. No SUVs period.

davethecarnut

That;s right.. Other than the NAPPCO (sic?) conversions, factory 4x4's didn't come out till the late 60's, right? Ford's original Bronco was one.

magnette

Never mind Alaska, the only place I've ever seen Hummers on the road is London...

My journey to work takes me past a fairly posh school every morning and it would seem that to deliver a child to that establishment requires at least a Volvo XC90, or RangeRover Sport. ( And the catchment area for the school can't be more than about 4 miles - on tarmac)

andys120

In '64 trucks/4wd/etc were not common anywhere, Anchorage included. No SUVs period

I'm certainly aware of that but it's remarkable on a number of levels that they weren't common in a place like Alaska, they certainly were available. SUVs were available in the form of Willys station wagons, International Scouts and the like.

PF_Flyer

Just as a lead in to today's Alternate Route...
Everything Old Is New Again

andys120