Mystery car pix

magnette

We have a lot of salt on our roads - because our weather is so changeable, and it is quite common, even in southern areas, like the area around London, to salt the roads to avoid accidents -even if there is only a slight chance of a hard frost. In more remote, rural areas the main roads need more salting, and of course places like Scotland and Yorkshire actually have proper snow every year ( not Alaskan levels, but enough to cause accidents).
In London we only seem to get a heavy frost nowadays about five or ten nights a year, though.
Lots of Britain is coastal, too - salt air perhaps ?

magnette

There is something funny about this one - and the cars in the background appear to be registered outside the US. Is this one of the Latin American Chrysler types ?
Either a Brazilian Dodge Charger, or perhaps an Argentinian (did they call some of their Charger type cars Polara ?).

guss

Bumpy, You got it, 1969 Subaru Pick up. I don't know if they were imported to the States, but this one was in Wisconsin.

magnette

guss

Early seventies MGB and a '57 Porsche Speedster, Opel Gt ?

Oh, you mean the white one, I don't have a clue, but that wind screen is interesting.

andys120

You've got the Speedster right but I'm sure the MG is a Midget, not a B, and whatever the silver car is, it's not an Opel GT. Maybe it's a Ginetta?

The two small screens on the white car were known as "Brooklands" screens, they were seen on on racing roadsters and sports cars from the 30's to the 60s. Could the white car be a Connaught?

magnette

Two of these cars were the subjects of posts last month, when I showed photos I had of them - the grey one is a Rochdale Olympic, and the blue Midget is actually an Austin Sprite ( not an Austin-Healey Sprite - they made a few after the deal with Healey came to an end).
The Porsche Speedster is a replica - a Chesil Speedster,actually - which is a kit car based on the inevitable VW. THere were a few of them at this particular show because it was the National Kit car show, (hence the Rochdale)

As a result, you will have deduced the white car is a sort of ancient kit-car too...

bumpy

Right hemisphere, wrong continent. Our orange bomber is a '73 Chrysler Coranger, a South African take on the Australian Valiant Charger but using the Dart as a starting point.

magnette

I really struggled to look at that picture, to see if it was RHD, or indeed if any of the other cars were... but I was thinking if so it might have been something from Australia - I didn't think of South Africa... I have never heard of the Chrysler Coranger, so I wouldn't have been any the wiser !

andys120

In my defense it is impossible to tell a Sprite from it's badge engineered twin, the MG-Midget without seeing a badge, we used to call 'em "Spridgets." You can however, tell either from an MG-B. :shades:

magnette

It is hardly possible to tell even when standing next to the car....

andre1969

I'm guessing that Mark V is a '77-78, because of the dual exhaust. That would imply to me it has a 460. The '79 only had a 400-2bbl with 159 hp, and on something like that I imagine a dual exhaust would do more harm than good!

As for the trim level, I think it's a Bill Blass edition, but I'm not sure. They had so many of those designer packages that I lose track. That appears to be one of the more tasteful ones, though.

kyfdx

Yeah.. on second thought, the Mark IV went all the way up to '76, didn't it?

My mother drove Lincolns in that time frame, but not Marks...

andys120

IIRC a designer package was optional and you could get a Mark without one. The only one's I can recall are Cartier and Bill Blass.

kyfdx

Speaking of Cannon..

Didn't he start out with a Mark III, then switch to a Mark IV in later seasons?

andre1969

Yeah, the designer packages were optional. The one to have, if these types of car are your thing, is the Diamond Jubilee, which was a 1978-only option. It was offered in either gold or the much more common frosty blue metallic. Interior was done up in a felt type material that in retrospect wasn't too durable. It was kinda like the material they use on those one-piece headliners that started becoming common in the late 70's. IIRC, the Diamond Jubilee also had a standard center console, and leather trim on the armrests. You could get leather seats, but oddly, that got rid of the center console. I think the Mark started around $12K in 1978, but a fully decked out Diamond Jubilee was more like $20K...a heckuva lot of money for back then!

There was another Designer Edition called Pucci, but I can't recall what it entailed. Probably something tacky. And for 1979, there was some edition called either "Heritage", or "Collector's Edition", which was basically a rehash of the Diamond Jubilee, but in midnight blue instead of the frosty blue.

I've always admired these cars, but don't know if I'd actually want one. I have a friend with two Diamond Jubilees, and I've driven one a few times. It's too big...even for my tastes!! I think they're really nice looking in the various blues they offered back then, or the jade green, or even just basic white or black. But they also offered some pretty grotesque colors, which I'm sure were considered the height of fashion back then.

guss

I remember Canon having one of the first car phones i had ever seen , it looked just like the old Bell handsets.

andre1969

I remember Canon having one of the first car phones i had ever seen , it looked just like the old Bell handsets.

Did it have a rotary dial? I remember seeing an old episode of "The Outer Limits", from 1965, that was supposed to take place in the future, in a Blade Runner type of society. There was a guy driving around in a modified '65 Riviera, which looked like it might have been some kind of concept car. It had a car phone, or at least a prop of one, with a rotary dial! Sometimes those old fashioned visions of the future are a real hoot!

andys120

Back in the day car phones did look like the old Bell handsets but the cars usually had a tall whip antenna, often bumper mounted.

A buddy of mine's Dad had a real gadget mobile, a '66 T-Bird Convertible. Us ing the T-Bird and the shell of a Princess (land) phone we played a gag on some girls who were riding with us.

We stuck the phone in the glove box and Jay got the car going just fast enough to trip the buzzer built into the "Speed Minder" built into the car. He repeated this a couple of times to induce a couple of short buzzes and says "Andy, can you get that?"

I open the glove box and put the receiver to me ear and say "Hello, Jay's Car",
Pretend to listen and say "It's Neil for you Jay."

The three girls bought it even though only multimillionaires had those in the mid-60s.

andys120

kyfdx

That looks like the last Cressida... Maybe '88 or '89?

imidazol97

Then there's the shoephone from "Get Smart."

lostwrench

Off topic, but:
Agent 99's name was used in one episode. Her name was...........

texases

Trick question - according to several web sites:
"It was absolutely, positively, never revealed. In "99 Loses CONTROL", she leaves CONTROL and tells her fiancée that her name is Susan Hilton. However, at the end of the episode, 99 states that Susan Hilton was a fake name."

lostwrench

Interesting. I always believed her name was Susan Hilton. I never knew of her saying the name is fake. Thanks.

andys120

That's right, I recently sold a car to a couple who used to to replace their '92 Cressida. When I first saw it I asked if it was a first Gen Avalon .

magnette

Well, my white roadster with the aero-screens was a Shirley Mk II - basically a kit based on a forties Ford Ten - the MkII was offered from 1960 to about 1964, but they made very few after 1962.

andys120

bhill2

Well as can be (barely) seen, it is a Daf; the first production car (I believe) with a continuously variable transmission, called the Variomatic. I had never seen a ute version of it. Is it a custom?

andys120

Yes it is a DAF, a 1967 DAF 33, essentially similar to DAF's first model the 600, released 50 years ago in 1958>



Like all DAF cars it featured the Van Doorne Transmission (AKA Variomatic or CVT).
The Van Doorne brothers were the founders of DAF. As for the pickup/ute configuration, it was factory, similar layouts were not uncommon for Citroens, Renaults and others of that era. The hoops over the bed support a canvas cover, another common feature of these Euro pickups>

andys120

If you can make out the oddly dressed individual you can probably guess the film this still is from. If you know the Big Aplle you can tell about where it was shot>

tmart

The film is Midnight Cowboy. Cars are Ford Custom Wagon, Ford Custom (taxi), and a Caddy Fleetwood Special.

fintail

The Ford wagon is a 66, looks pretty lowline so likely a Ranch Wagon or at most a Country Sedan. I think the Ford in the middle is a 68, probably another lowline car, Custom/Custom500 as it seems to be a cab.

stickguy

the dog is a sheep dog.

andys120

Yep it's Midnight Cowboy and that's Jon Voight in the role of Joe Buck. He's crossing Park Avenue in Midtown, you can tell by the pre-War apartment blocks and the trees in the median strip.

Based on the Grand Central Tower and PanAm (Now Met
Life) Buildings in the distance I'd guess the cross street is in the lower 60's,

andys120

imidazol97

>the dog is a sheep dog.

What year?

tmart

Since you didn't ask the dog's age, he would be a '69, the same as the movie.

stever

that's Jon Voight in the role of Joe Buck

And he's probably walking to the garage to take his Volvo for a spin.

andys120

What Volvo? According to George Costanza, he drove LeBaron convertible. :P

stever

Been too many years since I've seen the rerun. :shades: Must have been John Voight the dentist who traded the LeBaron in on a Vovlo.

andys120

stickguy

BMW 750XXLi?

The tank is a 63? Lincoln continental

lostwrench

1964 Lincoln Continental. (Clear parking light lenses).

karsick

BMW L7?

Why is this one in the photo without tires? :confuse:

andys120

Yep, it's an L7, perhaps someone swiped the tires.

andys120

stickguy

1969 Dodge Dart GT?

andys120

1969 Dodge Dart GT

Not bad, it's a Dart GT Sport, these came standard with a 383 and a three
-on the-tree but could be optioned up to a 383 with a Hurst 4-on-the-floor. Surely the most desireable Dart ever made.

dclurker

Wouldn't the small, round marker lights indicate that this is a '68? IIRC, the 69's had larger, rectangular markers.