Mystery car pix

stephen987

At first I thought it was a 1971 Chevelle with the "Heavy Chevy" package--a stripper counterpart to the increasingly flash-over-dash SS models.

But no, it's just a plain '71 Chevelle.

andys120

Yep, just a "Plain Jane" '71 Chevy Chevelle /350.

andys120

urnews

1954 Hudson?

lemko

1955 Willys Aero Bermuda?

andys120

1955 Willys Aero Bermuda?

Right on, Lemko!

andys120

stephen987

Polski-Fiat 125p?

andys120

You are very close but no cigar Stephen, it's the car which succeeded the 125p, starting in 1978, a 1985 FSO Polonez, which was based on 125p mechanicals but featured hatchback bodywork.

It stayed in production until 2002 and was exported all over the world.

boomchek

During the late 90s, Daewoo took over FSO and produced the Polonez under the Daewoo name. Although it was slightly updated, it was still a crude car when pitted against it's competition.

berri

Man, that 71 Malibu is a plain Jane stripper. I wonder if it has a bubble gum light package for the dashboard?

berri

One of the things that hurt the Willy's Bermuda was that it was rather high priced for a smaller car, so it didn't really stand a chance against the big 3 and the mid fifties price wars.

lostwrench1

1955 Willys Aero Bermuda - $1997.00

texases

Compare that $1997.00 '55 Chevy prices:

"Nomads $2472.00, convertibles $2206.00, Beauville 1955 Chevy wagon $2262.00, Belair sport coupe hardtop $2,067, 1955 Chevy 4 door Bel Air $1932.00, Belair 2 door $1888.00. Two-Ten models: started at $1775 for a 2 door and $2127.00 for a Townsman wagon. One-Fifty models: started at $1593.00 for a utility wagon up to $2030.00 for a Handyman wagon."

stephen987

Yeah, and the Chevys had much more room and power than the Willys. Make mine a '55 Nomad with the 265 Power-Pak and a three on the tree please. (Incidentally, I'm surprised that the Nomad was that much more expensive than a convertible!)

andys120

magnette

Fiat Dino Spyder - circa 1970

andys120

Fiat Dino Spyder - circa 1970

Yep, that one's an early Dino Spider 2000 (no "y" in Ferrari, Alfa or Fiat Sd\piders, just Masers).

andys120

Another great French street scene:



LARGER VERSION.

stephen987

Front left: 2CV, followed by a Peugeot 403 Commercial. Not sure about the blue thing behind it. In the far background is a light blue Citroen Ami 6, I think.

Right: Peugeot 403, followed by a Simca-Ford Vedette, followed by possibly an early Simca Aronde.

andys120

Front left: 2CV, followed by a Peugeot 403 Commercial. Not sure about the blue thing behind it. In the far background is a light blue Citroen Ami 6, I think.

You're right about all those, the 403 is what they called a camionette (Little Truck), Pug and Citroen Camionettes were very popular in France during the 50s & 60s. The "blue thing" could be a Dauphine or a Panhard.


Right: Peugeot 403, followed by a Simca-Ford Vedette, followed by possibly an early Simca Aronde

It's hard to say what the first (black) car is but it's definitely not a 403, could be a Citroen Light 11 or Light 16. Most likely it's a Renault 4CV. Following that is a Simca Ariane c. 1958, behind that is a (Ford or Simca) Vedette.

andys120

lemko

Looks like the special edition 1953 Oldsmobile Fiesta convertible.

fintail

I am pretty sure the black car is a Pug 203

andys120

I am pretty sure the black car is a Pug 203

Pardonnez moi, you're right Fin, looking at this photo I can see that it's a 203>

andys120

Lemko is correct, that's the limited edition 1953 Oldsmobile Fiesta, an analogue of the better known Buick Skylark and Cadillac Eldorado. I find it curious that the Fiesta, unlike
the '53 Skylark, featured a wraparound windshield even though Buick supposedly was just the step above Olds and below Caddy.

andys120

magnette

Actually saw one of these on Sunday at the car show I went to. It's a Borgward Big Six - circa 1961/3. This one appears to be registered in South Africa so maybe they sold them there under a different name, or for a shorter period...

andys120

Borgward Big Six - circa 1961/3

Well I could find no reference to a "Big Six" model in either Wikipedia or Motorbase.com. The car was mostly known as the Borgward P100 and was made in Germany from '59 to '61 and in Mexico from '67 til 1970.

It did feature six cylinder power although 2240cc isn't a particularly "Big Six" in an era when Jags ran 3.8L and Rolls/Bentley had almost 5 liters.

That rear window and C-pillars look like they were cribbed right off a Fintail Merc, don't they?

Edit: A Google search led me to website called Landroverbase.com which had pix of a "1960 Borgward P100 Big Six", you can see what I mean about the points of resemblance to the Fintails>

<img src="http://staging.landroverbase.com/pictures/contributions/990602//std_60_borgward_p100__big_six-3.jpg

andys120

stephen987

'47 Chrysler Town & Country?

lemko

From what I can tell, it's either a 1949 or 1950 Chrysler Town and Country convertible.

stephen987

Just out of curiosity, did the P100 come from Pininfarina's hand?

The big Borgward reminds me a little of a Peugeot 404, and the nose is similar to the '61 Chrysler 300, only minus the Chrysler's canted headlights. There's is also a little Fiat 2300 in there.

For 1961 this was very contemporary styling in Europe.

fintail

Definitely has some fintail DNA...the rear window is too much of a coincidence, the A pillar is very similar, and those are probably even 13" wheels. The MB fintail was a huge success from the start, and that shape was considered very modern, so no doubt others imitated it, even if subconsciously.

fintail

I don't think the Borgward was a Pininfarina work, but I remember I did read a story about the early design of the MB fintail, sometime like in 1957 Pininfarina was hired to do some preliminary designs, MB didn't like them and called the deal off, but the finished product was very Farina-esque.

The Fiat 2300 is a good example, kind of like a fintail, a Rambler, and a Chrysler love child.

andys120

Sorry Stephen, Lemko's right, it's a 1949 Chrysler Town & Country Coupe, the '47, '48 style was more rounded>

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andys120

These three have something in common:







Name the cars, and tell us what they share.

bumpy

stephen987

Malcolm Bricklin, importer of the Subaru 360, the post-Fiat USA Bertone X1/9 and (not pictured) Pininfarina Azzurra, and (not pictured) the Yugo GV.

stephen987

. . .not to mention the Bricklin SV-1, the greatest Canadian sports car.

andre1969

1984 Lincoln Town Car? :P

andys120

Yup, old Malcolm is back, working on a Hydrogen Car Scam.

andys120

jlbl

Ringing a bell but not being sure… one of the models of Matra Simca Bagheera in the Last Century 70's?

Just not being able of keeping quiet.

Regards,
Jose

andys120

Nope, sorry Jose.

magnette

Ligier JS2 1971/6

magnette

Wasn't able to see the French street scene while at work so I have only just found it.
The blue car obscured directly behind the 403 camionette on the left is an early Simca Aronde.
The Ford Vedette appears instead to be something different - a Ford Vendome, which was the 8cyl version. The grille on those was different, with just a single heavy chrome bar across the middle as on the subject car.

andys120

Magnette, you are right about the Ford Vendome; that's what imcdb.com says it is.

That's a model I was unfamiliar with but I find it attractive as most 50s French Fords



I couldn't say definitively what's behind that 403 Camionette.

stephen987

OTAS?

andys120

Ligier JS2 1971/6

Yep, they were pretty cool looking little cars from F1 constructor Guy Ligier>



Anybody have any info about the technical specs of this car?