Mystery car pix

lokki

Kaiser Traveler, probably circa '51>

Exactly thus!......

andys120

You got 'em all Fin, the GTS is surely a 328, the 308s had a different bumper that projected a bit..

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vcheng

The rumoured new Saab 9-5?

andys120

Yup, that's supposed to be a leaked photo of the 2010 Saab 9-5

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bhill2

There were a boatload of cars similar to this turned out, but rather few of this particular model.

tmart

Yeah, you don't see many 63 Ford Galaxie 500 XL four door hardtops. Good looking car and picture.

bhill2

OK smart guy, what was the official Ford name for that color? Just kidding; you nailed it in about 2 minutes. If I were wearing a hat it would be off to you.

andys120

OK smart guy, what was the official Ford name for that color?

You didn't ask me but I think I know. I'll wait for Tmart to get his chance.

tmart

It was probably Colonial White.

berri

I always thought the 64 Galaxie 500 4 dr HT was another good looking car in its time.

stephen987

and nobody has touched the Triumph GT6 mk II.

jwilliams2

Would look even better with a "406" badge on the fender.....

andys120

It was probably Colonial White.

IIRC Ford called it Wimbeldon White.

andys120

nobody has touched the Triumph GT6 mk II

Yup, that's exactly right, the wheels aren't OEM. I just read an old review of it in a 1969 issue of Car & Driver . They thought the big I-six completely threw off the balance of the car putting 55% of the weight on the front axle. :surprise:

Doesn't sound very sporty to me.

stephen987

and yet some hobbyists in the UK seem to think it's a good idea to take a perfectly reasonable stock Spitfire and cram the motor from a GT6 or even a TR6 into it to build the "Spitfire 6 the factory should have built." To me that's about as inspiring as shoving a Ford 302 under the hood of a Miata.

Then again, I wouldn't mind having one of those old Ken Costello MGB V8s, with the aluminum Rover engine.

tmart

You are corrrect. It was Wimbledon White.

andys120

stephen987

Hmm. Alfa 2600?

colloquor

For some reason, the "reply" button was not visible on the GT6 post...

BTW... it's not a GT6 MKII, rather it's a GT6 MKIII. The original GT6 MKI (known simply as the GT6 here in the States) used a swing axle rear suspension from the Triumph Spit and Herald. With the heavier 2.0L Inline 6, it did make the handling a bit dicey. I know from experience, as I bought a new Mark 1 in January 1968. It was fine unless you suddenly lifted off of the throttle in a turn, and then trailing oversteer would bite you, and it would swap ends in a heartbeat, much like Porsche 911's of that vintage.

The MKII (known as the GT6+ in the States) came along in mid-1968, and replaced the swing axle rear suspension with a double wishbone arrangement, in which the semi-elliptic transverse leaf spring acted as the top link, much like the old Cooper F1 race cars. This suspension transformed the GT6 into a proper handling car. This suspension was known by GT6 aficionados as the "RotoFlex" suspension, because of the use of RotoFlex couplers on the half shafts.

In 1971, Triumph launched the GT6 MKIII - the one pictured in the post - and the rear end styling followed the lead of the Triumph Stag. Due to increased production costs, Triumph replaced the excellent RotoFlex rear suspension with a swing spring suspension (not the tricky swing axle) from the Spitfire MKIV. It wasn't a bad suspension, but not up to the standards of the RotoFlex design.

Again, the photo in the post is a GT6 MKIII, not a MKII or GT6+.

andys120

My bad Colloquor, you're correct, it was a GT-6 Mk.III, I didn't catch the missing "I" in Stephen987's answer.

It just goes to show there's a reason why Arabic numbers are preferred over Roman.

You seem to be knowlegeable on the subject; could you explain exactly what a GT-6+ was?

andre1969

Wimbledon White was a 1964 color. For 1963 it was Corinthian White.

andys120

Hmm. Alfa 2600?

Almost Stephen, it's the predecessor of the Alfa 2600, the Alfa-Romeo 2000 Spider ca. 1958-61 which used a four cyl. 2 liter engine instead of the later 2.6 liter 6 cylinder motor fr. 1962-69. The 2000 Spider had a twin hood scoops while the 2600 had a single slot scoop>



They are sometimes referred to as Touring Spiders to distinguish them from the later, smaller 2000 Spider Veloces with Pininfarina bodywork ca. 1971-73.

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tmart

The 53 and 65 are Lincolns.

andys120

Well duhhh, what year? Model? Lincolns.

I see at least three other somewhat identifiable cars in the picture. :shades:

stephen987

I don't see any cars--or a picture. But you sure have my curiosity going.

andre1969

This link might work better.

What was that from, one of those old MobilGas economy runs they used to do? I'm guessing around 1953?

wgrafer

Well I tracked down the missing pic, and all those Lincolns getting ready for the Panamerican look like 1953 Capri models to me. The white wagon on the left looks like a '53 Chrysler from the passenger door shape (not really a lot to go on here).

andys120

Apologies for the wayward photo, try this link

Wgrafer is right the Lincolns are all '53 Capris preparing for the legendary Carrera
Panamericana, The wagon with the door open is most likely a '52 or '53 MoPar but it's impossible to tell more. That's almost certainly a Kaiser Henry J behind the #53 Lincoln. The last car in the line-up looks like a '54 Chrysler and in front of it is perhaps another one.

I remember seeing commercials on the Ed Sullivan TV Show bragging about Lincoln's win in the Large Stock Car Class in '53.

andys120

Another racing shot from when race cars looked practically stock:



Clue: the script on the front fender reads Team Roosevelt.

colloquor

Andy, the GT6+ was the USA version of the GT6MKII. Here are a few of the differences from the MKI: different badging, higher front bumper, improved ventilation, different dash, elimination of wire wheels as standard, the generator gave way to an alternator, changes to the head, valves, and camshaft for more power, changes in interior trim pieces, but most importantly, the aforementioned major change to the rear suspension.

Most GT6 lovers prefer the MKI from a classical styling point-of-view. I know of one person who rebuilt his MKI by purchasing a donor MKII (or GT6+ in this case), and used the frame/chassis and engine from the GT6+. Thus, he now has a MKI with the "proper" rear suspension, and a better breathing engine.

andre1969

I was thinking that too, that the last one, which looks like a really pale green 2-door sedan, might be one of the senior Mopars, like a DeSoto or Chrysler.

wgrafer

The red second car looks like a late 50's Renault Dauphine - not normally known for its road rally abilities. The 2 tone car parked on the right in the background is a 1961 Plymouth. I have no idea of what the yellow lead race car is, but it is distinctive.

magnette

The yellow car is an Abarth - it could be anything from a 750 upwards, my guess is it's a 750.
Red car is indeed a Dauphine, and I can make out the Plymouth.
Only other car I can see clearly is a Hillman Minx in the background to the left - just above the hedge (its the two-tone car with white over dark grey)

andys120

The yellow car is an Abarth - it could be anything from a 750 upwards,

It's a ca. 1960 Fiat-Abarth 1000.. I thought the red car might be a Volvo Amazon but I think you guys are right, It's a Dauphine.

The photo was taken in 1961 during the old Bahamas Speed Weeks. My clue about the "Team Roosevelt" script refers to Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr. who was for some years the distributor for Fiat Autos in the USA.

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wgrafer

Way too many Bucks for me, but this looks like an Aston Martin to me. Maybe a new Volante Coupe or Sedan????

lemko

magnette

(Remember the days when we could just press reply...)

This is the new Aston Martin One-77, and unless I win the Eurolottery jackpot - at least - I don't think I'm going to be booking a test drive, as it is going to cost somewhere in the region of £1.2 million - which is serious money for a car that still can't go any faster than the one in front on most of the roads I drive on... Full carbon-fibre hull, and the motor is not the usual(!) Aston V12, as used in the DBS, but instead a version more like the LeMans DBR9s....
I suppose I'll see one on the road - within a fairly defined area of London - same sort of territory that most of the Lamborghinis tend to hang out in, and the handful of Veyrons that are here in Blighty... I bet it will have plates from Dubai/Bahrain etc...

magnette

Ok - outside my comfort zone, and a bit early, but here goes. From the right; -

1939 Ford STD (Tudor?)
1940 Chevrolet
1938 Pontiac (8?)
1941 Chevrolet
the first white car is a Hudson - 1946?
then a white Ford - 1940/2?
over the road the middle car. which looks green may be a Cadillac?

magnette

fintail

Panther Solo, late 80s...I remember those.

andys120

Is that a Clenet next to the Solo?

The white car might be a Porsche 911 Carrera RS ca '73-'74.

fintail

I think the first white car looking from right to left is a 41-42 Chrysler. The white car at the end of the lineup definitely looks like a 41-42 Ford to me. The third car from right looks like a 38 Buick to me. I think you are right about the Ford and Chevys. The coupe in the distance past the white Ford looks like maybe a 38 Dodge.

The car across the street in the middle with the split rear windshield looks like a Caddy, yeah. I think to the left of it is a larger 41-2 GM sedan, likely a Buick, and to the right is maybe a Mopar, or Ford.

fintail

I think the neoclassic looking thing is a Panther Kallista.

The Porsche has that type of spoiler, the headlights look like 1974+

magnette

It is a Panther Solo - they designed it in about 1987, but took until the early 90's to make production, and they made about a dozen. Shame - it was a nice looking car in some ways.
And it is another Panther beside it - you are correct, as it is a Kallista, I believe.

andys120

Yup it's the super expensive Aston One -77.

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