Mystery car pix

andys120

stephen987

FIAT 850

hudsonthedog

Can't miss the yellow Beetle. No fair to ask me the year, they were still building those brand new in Brazil in 1986.

They were still building them in 2003 in Mexico.

andys120

FIAT 850

Indeed>

stephen987

I spent enough time staring at that little engine to be scarred for a very long time. . .

Still, mine would touch 7000 rpm--not bad for a pushrod unit!

stever

They were still building them in 2003 in Mexico.

Apparently they started building them again in Brazil in 1993 and continued until 1996. I had a couple back in the day, but I could barely tell the years apart back then, much less now.

andys120

stephen987

Jensen Interceptor, ca. 1972.

wgrafer

Imidazol - I have to hand it to you. You are correct - the '67 Pontiac Safari wagon had the two vertical lights on either side whereas the one in the pic definitely has only one. I hereby revise my statement and call it a 1966! Hats off to you guy

imidazol97

You got it! I didn't know what it was at the beginning. If couldn't find one in the pictures I usually use for reference; wagons are sometimes hard to find.

I liked the lineup of old wagons just because they're not seen very often even in the cruise in circuit.

Here's a picture of that Pontiac Safari when it was new. Same color (almost?)

andys120

Yup, it's an Interceptor.

ateixeira

I remember that, but didn't recall the years because I was no longer living in Brazil at the time.

I do recall demand was very high, and I think they had a sub-1000cc model, since engines that small were taxed at a lower rate, and of course fuel costs about double there compared to what we paid.

That Fiat is funny looking - short hood, long deck, opposite of most pony cars.

andys120

stephen987

Jaguar XK140 DHC?

andys120

Not quite, Stephen.

hudsonthedog

Jaguar XK150 DHC

andys120

Yep, it's kinda hard to tell an XK150 from a 140 from that angle.

andys120

wgrafer

OK, I'll bite...Looks like a '67 Dodge Polara to me. But there are a few things wrong - there's too many letters to spell 'Dodge' on the trunk, there's a weird side ,marker light on the side... maybe it's some kind of Canadian Dodge Polara or Monaco???????

andys120

maybe it's some kind of Canadian Dodge Polara or Monaco???????

You're on the right track, it's a South African market 1967 Dodge Monaco,
which accounts for the extra letters on the trunk (M-o-n-a-c-o) and the odd marker light which was required in any countries before we got 'em in 1968.

hudsonthedog

If that's South African, why is the steering wheel on the left side?

lostwrench1

Only a few countries ban steering wheels from being on the "wrong" side.
In the USA one can order a Jeep with the steering wheel on the "wrong" side.

andys120

In the USA one can order a Jeep with the steering wheel on the "wrong" side

The USPS has a bunch of 'em.

imidazol97

I was so excited about finding Lemko's business here in the area, I forgot to take pictures of the brand logos, etc.

Larger picture--click here!

stephen987

Any chance it's a '40 Ford Sedan Delivery?

andys120

I was going to suggest a 39'-'41 Ford as well, those chromed wires don't look like OEM.

berri

Looks nice though. I think D3 should look back at some of its great styling and designs to enhance its competitive stature. Asia has some great products, but few real lookers out there.

andys120

wgrafer

1948 Allard. Never saw one here in Florida.....

imidazol97

Finally found the answer: you're right, 1940 Ford Panel Truck

andys120

Right you are Wgrafer, it's an Allard P1 Sport (1948-52). Unlike the Allard sports cars we know best, these were 5 passenger vehicles>

andys120

andys120

Is this thing on? I can't believe no one gets this one, the answer is staring you right in the face! Stephen? Imidazol? Wgrafer? Magnette? Anyone?

Going...going...

fintail

Peugeot 407, French plates

It was so easy I didn't want to take it

stephen987

Would've picked it up--but I've been so busy at work today I haven't had time to play. Sorry to disappoint. . .

In partial atonement, I offer the following:

michaellno

Looks like a Fiat 126, but the grille is different and it's RHD, so my guess is ...

.. I have no idea.

stephen987

Also, the engine's not in back like a 126.

andys120

Innocenti Mini 850, styled by Bertone IIRC, ca. 1970s

stephen987

Good spotting. It's actually an Innocenti Mini 90L.

Ready for another?

andys120

Ah, the German Chevelle, a 1964-68 Opel Diplomat A. Some used a version of the same 327..er... 4.6L V8 used in the Malibu SS. If you look carefully you can see the "O-P-E-L" to the left on the grille. :P

stephen987

Yeah--except the Diplomat coupe cost more than a Mercedes SL new. (And the 4.6 was the 283--the 327 went into the Diplomat 5.4).

andys120

andre1969

Hmm, leave it to GM to take what's essentially a truncated Chevy Chevelle and try to put it up against a Mercedes flagship. What's next, a Nova? And God help 'em if they ever try that with a Cavalier! :P

texases

The BMW 3.2 l V8 in a 507?

stephen987

Actually the Diplomat was pretty highly regarded by the European motor press when it debuted, even though the 4.6 (283) V8 tended to overheat at sustained autobahn speeds. Beyond the engine and transmission, how much of it really was shared with the US cars? I always had the impression they shared styling and powertrain but not much else--am I wrong?

andys120

The BMW 3.2 l V8 in a 507?

Prezactly!

stephen987

Umm. Wait, I've got it, it's, umm. . .

A black box with orange and white text.

andys120

I hate it when that happens!

Take 2>

andre1969

Beyond the engine and transmission, how much of it really was shared with the US cars? I always had the impression they shared styling and powertrain but not much else--am I wrong?

I dunno how much it actually shares with the US cars, but something about the styling, especially around the windshield/A-pillar area, makes me think of a '64-67 Chevelle.

What transmission would it have used, I wonder? In the US, those 283's and even the 327's only used 2-speed Powerglides. The 3-speed THM350 wasn't out until 1969, and I think that's the year the 350 engine replaced the 327. I don't think GM ever put the big THM400 up to a smallblock, but I could be wrong.

andys120

According to Wikipedia the '64-'68 Diplomats used the good ole Powerglide two-speed.

I don't know how much sheet metal they shared w Chevelles but given the resemblance I wouldn't be surprised if they shared roofs, trunks, hoods etc.