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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    You're on the nose Grafer, it was the top of the line Chrysler wagon in '54
    (note wire wheels).

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    If ever there was an odd car to put those wire wheels on, a '54 wagon would be at the top of my list. Did any really come from the factory that way?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Did any really come from the factory that way?

    Good question. My guess is not very many but Kelsey Hayes wires were an (expensive) option on many high dollar models in the 50s.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    UH! Man WANT that!

    I've love to have an early 50s "tin wagon".
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The question is, what's this concept Karman Ghia based on?

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Looks like a Karmann Ghia nose grafted on a current model Audi TT Coupe. I'd imagine engine cooling would be a problem.

    I was never very sure about that expanse of painted metal across the nose of the Karmann Ghia. Here in Australia, they always looked pock-marked with tiny stone chips and splattered insects.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    I was never very sure about that expanse of painted metal across the nose of the Karmann Ghia


    Beetles had the same problem, any that were used on the highway had pockmarked noses.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,994
    I'd imagine engine cooling would be a problem.

    But, isn't the Karmann Ghia engine in the back? ;)

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    That is where I see the problem. The Audi TT is a front engined, front or four wheel drive , water cooled car and the Karmann Ghia is not!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited August 2012
    G'day

    Aston Martin Vanquish. Very newly released

    If you have not seen it, search for video (not for the Vanquish):

    Aston Martin Loves Women, Women Love Aston Martin

    Cheers

    Graham
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Yep, one of our auto editors was playing around and started with the TT.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Is this out in the Edmunds' lot??

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    "I was never very sure about that expanse of painted metal across the nose of the Karmann Ghia. "

    Even worse than the Beetle, the KG 'leads with its nose', with lots of minor damage and dents. A friend recently restored one, and the nose took a lot of body shop time...
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Edmunds' has underground parking so this is just somewhere in LA.

    The "twins" are the JGC SRT8 and the Cayenne GTS.

    "Shocking how similar the two high-powered, sport utility beasts are when you look closely. The wheels, the spoiler and even the red brake calipers. The Jeep wins the horsepower race in this instance and is about $25,000 cheaper, too.

    For me, though, it's the styling that seals the deal. The SRT8 is big, blocky and suitably tough looking while the Porsche is all sorts of awkward. I wonder if its owner was jealous? Dismissive?"

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    Both are posercars IMO. Also an old style Cayenne, might be cheaper than a new Jeep now.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I'd throw those wheels over a fence though. I really don't want my expensive sports car to look like a stage coach.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I'd throw those wheels over a fence though. I really don't want my expensive sports car to look like a stage coach.

    I couldn't agree more but that type of wheel is very much en vogue. :(

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    I couldn't agree more but that type of wheel is very much en vogue

    Yeah, so were leisure suits, double-knit plaid bell-bottoms, and disco!
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    That new Vanquish looks pretty much like every A-M for the last, what, 20 years?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Perhaps so, after they turned the Aston Martin into a boulevardier rather than a sports car.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    It's very much a lifestyle brand now. With the Cygnet out there, a couple bloated SUVs will be here in no time.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    it's amazing how they managed to make $7000 worth of rims and tires look like something you bought at Autozone.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    Blingy tacked on trim is en vogue now, remember the distance between money, taste, style, etc.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Shoot, I always thought this was a Cygnet! :P

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Shoot, I always thought this was a Cygnet!

    Nope,just an ugly duckling. ;)

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    The only way that I can really tell recent Aston Martin models apart is by checking the badges.

    A friend has a specialist Aston Martin garage (Bentleys and Rolls Royse as well, together with some other exotics) and always seems to have pretty, older models in there. I may spoil myself today and take a run over there to admire them.

    More recently, they have a dreadful sameness.

    When we lived in Gloucestershire in England, a local regularly drove a very well used, original DB4 Zagato in British Racing Green; definitely a car to lust after!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    That's actually better looking than the AM Cygnet...at least it's a hardtop.
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Ah! The original Signet! Looks like a '64 Plymouth Valiant Signet 200. Pretty cool for the day....
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Mercury Tempo. Year is hard to tell but it's towards the end of its run.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    edited August 2012
    "The only way that I can really tell recent Aston Martin models apart is by checking the badges. "

    I was trying to make a little joke with my 20 year comment on Aston Martin styling. Turns out I was (unfortunately) pretty close. The DB-7 came out in 1994, looks not much different than the 2013 Vanquish:
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,464
    actually the Topaz, the mercury version of the Tempo.

    in either case, a lousy car. I had a few as rentals and they were scary.

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    actually the Topaz, the mercury version of the Tempo.

    Arrggghhh - I knew that as my wife once owned a Tempo. I drove it for the last 2 years of its time with us. It was an 84 and I drove it to my office in. It was a little tank. When we traded it in, the salesman commented on the lows miles - the odometer had rolled over and was showing 35K. I told him it was 135K and he said impossible - Tempos don't last that many miles.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'd throw those wheels over a fence though. I really don't want my expensive sports car to look like a stage coach

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    There's a controversy right now between Jeep and that european moose testing crew.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/09/watch-a-jeep-grand-cherokee-fail-swedens-moos- e-test/

    You don't throw massively sticky rubber on tall vehicles like that.

    This is not the first controversy Jeep had with this issue.

    Autoweek put an early Jeep Liberty up on 2 wheels. At first they blamed the pavement (LOL), but later they revised the suspension on those vehicles.

    Then Consumer Reports complained about the new Grand Cherokee "hopping and skidding" in its avoidance maneuver. That also resulted in a recall of the stability control software (it was reprogrammed).

    I love how Jeep says nothing is broken, then proceeds to fix what's broken repeatedly.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    yes it is more than a little ironic that people choose SUVs for their "crash safety", only to expose themselves to an even worse hazard--rollovers.

    sticky wide rubber + high center of gravity = whoops!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
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    Oh, no wait...it's a '93 Toyota Supra.....my mistake, sorry.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    AMs look fine. They had a looker on their hands and chose not to mess with it. Slow evolution.

    Like the 911. Same basic design, just evolve it slowly.

    You see any of the Astons in person and it'll make your heart race.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited August 2012
    That color (Indigo Lights?) is back again. Or it never left.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    not my heart but maybe somebody's. I'm not old enough for an Aston Martin. Maybe having a few clogged arteries would help. :P

    I'm not sayin' its not a good-looking car. I'm just tired of looking at it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's the new SkyActiv Mazda3.

    Autoweek tested a bunch of the 40mpg clubbers and of the gassers that was the one that could travel at the fastest speed on the highway while still returning 40mpg. It could do 70 something mph IIRC.

    Very impressive. A TDI did slightly better but diesel costs more, so the SkyActiv was still the economy champ IMHO.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Yep. Liking the color. Reminds me of Boise Blue. :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I believe the engine cover is painted to match that.

    Funny thing is the engine cover stays blue even if you get a car in a different color.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They may as well call that the Potomac 20854 because my zip code will be full of those. :D
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Some kind of prison transport? Surely no one would voluntarily want to be seen in one.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    You underestimate the bad taste of the showy part of the ever-wealthier 1%. Especially those who have screwed someone over and have reason to be fearful.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Thank you for your kind offer, but we do not require any in Australia.

    Regards

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    That silly thing is for you if you require bulletproof all-terrain capabilities, I'm surprised it doesn't come with an optional rocket launcher.

    It's a 2013 Conquest Evade, based on the Ford F-550 commercial truck. :sick:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

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