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Aw Shifty, you just don't get the Mercedes 600 Pullman, the most advanced technological leap in autodom since the Citroen ID (and unmatched to this day).
I wouldn't buy one on a bet, nor would I enjoy driving one, they're like big yachts, if you have to ask how much it costs to maintain you can't afford one but that doesn't mean we can't admire'em.
If I was super rich and was of the type to be driven around in a limo, I would choose a 600
That red car is an Alpine, I think they made them like that through at least the late 80s. I remember them being new. I never cared for the window line or the bizarro windshield wipers.
Your identification is..um...incomplete in that there were several generations of "Alpines", can anyone ID the pictured car a little more definitively? Shifty? Bob?
This little roadster was posed against a very English-looking background but it's a Suzuki Cappuccino, I'm not sure if they are still making it.
Here it is sans removable top., it's easily the most appealing 'zuki I've seen.=>
ANDY--All I can think of is calling it a Renault Alpine.
FINTAIL -- If you chose a 600 to be driven around it, you'd mostly be walking I'm afraid. Don't you recall the famous incident when a US President (I forget who) visited Germany and the stupid 600 broke down on global television. They had to push it off the tarmac! Benz officials were FURIOUS!
I think that president might have been Kennedy. I know the 600 would have been out in very early form in 63...but I can't recall who it was. I know I've heard the story though. Anyway, I think of them from the Omen/Damien movies...the 600 has kind of an evil look to it, and I like that.
If not, a LWB W112 300SE fintail might be a good choice, or maybe an Adenauer, or a late 50s American limo.
Your identification is..um...incomplete in that there were several generations of "Alpines", can anyone ID the pictured car a little more definitively? Shifty? Bob?
Beutler Carrosserie built the first six Porsche 356A Cabrios back in 1948 and continued to build coachbuilt Porsches throut the 60s. The red car is a '59, one of the last Buetler Porsches. Here's a more "Porsche-looking car without the faux grille.
is the grille, as it did in the original photo, to look so Lancia-like. I have never seen the Porsche badge as large as it appeared on that Beutler model; nor have I ever seen used as part of the grille design. Porsche has always used their badge small, and on the hood (never in the grille).
Yep, the wheels were the giveaway just as they were on the Zagato-bodied Abarth Carrera I posted a while back. Needless to say I picked the car with the fake grille just because it looked the least like a Porsche. :P
that thing is as ugly as sin...where's my shotgun? Looks like an old Jaguar S type rear end with a Porsche 356 "notchback" roof (the model nobody wants) and a front end that might be okay on another car entirely, as it has not been properly introduced to the one it's on right now.
Yep, I saw at Expo '67 where it was introduced to the world.
Pretty neat little car, I've maybe seen two or three in my life, counting the one at the Montreal Expo. I'd rather have a GTV, especially if it had the Montreal's V8.
I have never seen the Porsche badge as large as it appeared on that Beutler model; nor have I ever seen used as part of the grille design. Porsche has always used their badge small, and on the hood (never in the grille).
Except for the faux grille on the Beutler I don't think any Porsche had a front "Grille" until the Cayenne, not even the water cooled ones.
928 has a grille but under the bumper, if that counts.
Alfa Montreals are a kick to drive but very complex and finicky. I'd like to have one someday--they make a great sound. Not too expensive to buy, either.
Would you call that a grille, or a slot, in any case it's a poor place to display a badge. Fintail is right about the Hudson Jet, it's a '54. I always thought the were simply copies of the '53 Ford. :P
A rather unloved car. Considering that they are much rarer than Cobras (onlyl 28 made in convertible form), their current market value at about $40K-$45K for a nice one seems very cheap. If price is driven by supply and demand, and supply is only 28, demand can't be very high.
The AC428 was unloved because it lacked the visual and tactile excitement of the AC Cobras. Carroll Shelby has been trying to build a successful follow on to the original snake for 40 years and he still hasn't been successful. I don't thin he was involved with the Frua 428, though.
Bob, thanks for those links. Shifty I can't figure out what that white car is. I thought it might be a coupe version of the Volvo P1900 but it should say "VOLVO" right at top of the grille. How 'bout a better pic, that one's pretty crappy w all those reflections and shadows?
Gee, thanks . It's wearing a British plate but that could be a carrozzeria badge just ahead of the door. Is it a Jensen? Prolly not, it looks a bit like a CV8 but has a round badge instead of the Jensen winged badge. WTF :confuse:
Dan, I think the light in the grille is an aftermarket fog or driving light
not a Jensen but that's not a bad guess actually, in that this company later imitated Jensen in powerplants. The mention of Germany is actually quite relevant, although it is not a German car. There is also a link to the British AC.
Skip, a good friend of mine from grade school, his dad had one. I rode in it way too may times to remember as a kid. He also had a Model A Ford. It was a neat family. I'm still in touch with Skip via IMs, in fact as late as last month we communicated.
If you just think about the profile of that one it looks almost exactly like most of the minivans running around today... except that it's headed in the opposite direction!
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But I will say this for it....if you wanted the fastest, best handling 22 foot car in existence, this was it.
Need a water pump? Only $1,500.
I wouldn't buy one on a bet, nor would I enjoy driving one, they're like big yachts, if you have to ask how much it costs to maintain you can't afford one but that doesn't mean we can't admire'em.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
That red car is an Alpine, I think they made them like that through at least the late 80s. I remember them being new. I never cared for the window line or the bizarro windshield wipers.
can anyone ID the pictured car a little more definitively? Shifty? Bob?
This little roadster was posed against a very English-looking background but it's a Suzuki Cappuccino, I'm not sure if they are still making it.
Here it is sans removable top., it's easily the most appealing 'zuki I've seen.=>
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
FINTAIL -- If you chose a 600 to be driven around it, you'd mostly be walking I'm afraid. Don't you recall the famous incident when a US President (I forget who) visited Germany and the stupid 600 broke down on global television. They had to push it off the tarmac! Benz officials were FURIOUS!
I think that president might have been Kennedy. I know the 600 would have been out in very early form in 63...but I can't recall who it was. I know I've heard the story though. Anyway, I think of them from the Omen/Damien movies...the 600 has kind of an evil look to it, and I like that.
If not, a LWB W112 300SE fintail might be a good choice, or maybe an Adenauer, or a late 50s American limo.
can anyone ID the pictured car a little more definitively? Shifty? Bob?
A310 Gr4
http://www.alpinespecialist.nl/
Bob
The Renault-Alpines were very successful big league rally cars. Think of them as France's answer to the 911, the motor was hung out the back.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I have no idea
http://www.salon-auto.ch/en/cents_ans/expo/expo_carrosserie/index.php?idIndex=&idContent=6- 815
That was a tough one!
Bob
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Bob
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Well at least we know why it's obscure.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
http://www.carsfromitaly.com/alfaromeo/index.html
Bob
Pretty neat little car, I've maybe seen two or three in my life, counting the one at the Montreal Expo. I'd rather have a GTV, especially if it had the Montreal's V8.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Except for the faux grille on the Beutler I don't think any Porsche had a front "Grille"
until the Cayenne, not even the water cooled ones.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Alfa Montreals are a kick to drive but very complex and finicky. I'd like to have one someday--they make a great sound. Not too expensive to buy, either.
Fintail is right about the Hudson Jet, it's a '54. I always thought the were simply copies of the '53 Ford. :P
Who's got this?=>
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
http://www.madle.org/ac428a.jpg
http://www.w2ec.com/Frua.html
http://www.pietro-frua.de/1965_ac.htm
Bob
Try this one:
Bob, thanks for those links. Shifty I can't figure out what that white car is. I thought it might be a coupe version of the Volvo P1900 but it should say "VOLVO" right at top of the grille. How 'bout a better pic, that one's pretty crappy w all those reflections and shadows?
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
just ahead of the door. Is it a Jensen? Prolly not, it looks a bit like a CV8 but has a round badge instead of the Jensen winged badge. WTF :confuse:
Dan, I think the light in the grille is an aftermarket fog or driving light
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
http://www.mirbach.de/main.asp?main=auto_detail&ID=927&subnav=1
Bob
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Skip, a good friend of mine from grade school, his dad had one. I rode in it way too may times to remember as a kid. He also had a Model A Ford. It was a neat family. I'm still in touch with Skip via IMs, in fact as late as last month we communicated.
http://www.quepo.com/queposite/quepoweb/600multipla.html
Bob
Wow I'd like to see a Multipla/ Ford Model A death race, 0-50! It'd be close.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Bob
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2003_fms_407elixir/
Bob
Jowett also made a sedan called the Javelin which was pretty modern for a period British car
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93