Mystery car pix

seminole_kev

It said that Garfinkle's design was inspired by the 1969 Lancia Marica show car. (No idea what that would look like? Would that be a Frua design as well?)

seminole_kev

...Ok, found some photos of the Lancia Marica show car here: http://www.carsfromitaly.com/lancia/concepts/marica.html

Definetly can see where it led to the Momo Mirage.

andys120

The weird thing is that it's a Ghia design, it looks exactly like a Frua :confuse:

andys120

No, it's not a Citroen.

fintail

Looks like a DKW, but with all the East German junk (lots of Wartburgs...bad name for a car) in the background, it could be some postwar monstrosity contrived by the commies in East Germany using salvaged dies, like the EMW.

andys120

You're on the right track, Fin.

andys120

No one else has any idea what that was. Actually Fin was pretty close. It's a
Sachsenring IFA F8 sedan, made from 1949 to 1955 by the same folks in the DDR who gave the world the Trabant, it is based on prewar DKW mechanicals.

I wouldn't have known either.

andys120

Ugly ain't it?

Mr_Shiftright

(Shifty slapping forehead)

Oh, a Sachsenring IFA F8...of course!!

andys120

It just trips off the tongue doesn't it? :P

PF_Flyer

Just the other day I was saying to myself...

Gesundheit!

michaellno

...that's an easy one. TVR Tuscan, I believe. Similar to what John Travolta drove in the movie "Swordfish"

andys120

that's an easy one. TVR Tuscan, I believe. Similar to what John Travolta drove in the movie "Swordfish"

All right Mr. know -it-all it's a Tuscan2, which distinguishes it from the original TVR Tuscan of the 60s.=>



My cousin owned the Triumph 6 powered version (TVR 2500M) which was an absolute blast to drive.

fintail

Cool, I was close. IIRC, that DKW/Saschenring was also front wheel drive, which is decent prewar technology.

And on that note, a face even a mother couldn't love

andys120

Is it a Simca?

Mr_Shiftright

hmmm...I dunno....looks very Germanic to me, especially the front fenders and headlight surrounds and hub caps....also a very weird car....okay, so Germanic and weird....this is starting to sound East German again, or maybe Scandanavian--very strang grille badge, too. Not a "normal" car from a "normal" country, I'm sure.

fintail

You're on the right continent anyway, andy

shifty is on the right track, the car is as abnormal as can be

andys120

fintail

Close enough...it's an EMW as was mentioned with the earlier guess I made. I think they have an interesting history....IIRC, after the war BMW's Munich area facilities were heavily damaged, and didn't produce many cars before 1950. But their Eisenach factory, in what became the DDR, fared much better, and resumed production soon after the war. It actually made copycat BMW cars until the early 50s, when BMW took action. The cars were renamed EMW, and the grille and logo changed. I think the company later made the Wartburg too.

rsholland

That's a new one for me. I've never heard of that brand.

Bob

Mr_Shiftright

for the West, but the loss of the Skoda factory to the Western market was unfortuante I think. Skoda made some interesting cars and might have done okay in the USA.

But who knows. Borgward had a great shot at becoming the BMW of America but they blew it, since Mr. Borgward was kind of a tyrant and thought he knew better than anyone how to do things.

andys120

East German weirdos (Iknow, I started it), here's a little slice of Americana

rsholland

Bob

rsholland

1954 Dodge Royal

Bob

andys120

1954 Dodge Royal

Nope it's a Coronet

rsholland

Royal? Cornet? Royal? Cornet? Royal? Cornet? She loves me? She loves me not? DANG! I picked the wrong one!

Bob

andys120

Mr_Shiftright

no fair Andy, that's a prototype isn't it?

seminole_kev

Don't know what it is, but I find it interesting that it looks a lot like a Jaguar Mk1 one off coupe body that was made as a styling exercise.

*edit - found it. Kind of like this guy: http://www.jag-lovers.org/include/iv.php3?in=/q/1~1091011820.jpg

fintail

I think the loss of Tatra behind the iron curtain was even more unfortunate than Skoda. Tatras are pretty damn cool.

The red car in the last pic is a postwar Bugatti

lancerfixer

KC-135R...oh wait, you meant the car...

andys120

The red car in the last pic is a postwar Bugatti

Yes, a Bugatti Type 101 Cabriolet bodied by Gangloff, they are rare Shifty, but it's not a
prototype, here's another=>

andys120

rsholland

Ford Capri.

Bob

fintail

Yep, or a Consul Capri to be exact. A British 2/3 scale 1960 Starliner. I like it.

andys120

1962 Ford Consul Capri to be really exact, good night guys.

lancerfixer

Looks like a 1/2 scale Ford Starliner with a P1800 roofline. Maybe it looks better in person. It must.

fintail

You won't like the front, then

Mr_Shiftright

I actually sat in a Type 101, that's how I knew what it was. But I think you are right, they did built a few postwar.

Ettore Bugatti was a real character wasn't he? I love the story about him designing a pair of shoes that had individual toes. That is SO Bugatti.

fintail

Here's the Capri front end, for those who care:





Not for those who don't care for Euro-American styling.

andys120

that's a lot better looking=>

bumpy

Jeez, it looks like an '81 510 and a 200SX got drunk and had a baby.

rsholland

Ford Taunus.

Bob

andys120

Ford Taunus.

Keerect, one of a line of German-built Fords to bear the Taunus name. This one dates from the mid-70s based on the color and the wheels.

andys120

subearu

Evenrude, wait, you weren't talking about the boat :P

-Brian

rsholland

Just woke up... A Nissan Cedric.

Bob

andys120

Yep it's a 1960-63 Cedric, looks like a first cousin to the Humber Super Snipe,
and as with the HSS you can see plenty of 50s American influence.

Check out the stacked headlights=>

andys120

but it's an early 50s model...

fintail

That Nissan is kinda cool

The "old" looking car is a Bentley R-Type or whatever they were called