After owning dozens of new cars, I'd have to agree that I've never seen any significant change in gas mileage from tank #1 to tank #100... and this goes back to the 60s. And I check my mileage virtually every fillup. I've always HOPED to see the mileage improve, but it's never happened. Sidenote here though is that the most miles I've ever put on a new vehicle is 28,000.
Many thanks for your replies -- nice tips on how to save gas! What I might find difficult to do is keeping my foot absolutely still on the accelerator. :-) I find this 4-cylinder car to be rather weak on hilly drives and fast-lane merges, and so I often downshift manually to D3 (and sometimes "2" on sharp upward turns, especially when the whole family is riding).
The above could explain my low MPGs, but my previous 03 Accord 5-speed MT was averaging at least 28 miles per gallon! On highways, I'm usually at 65-70 MPH on a 55-MPH zone. You don't get a ticket here in North Carolina until you are MORE than 15 miles above 55 (or speed limits 55 or more).
I'm still hoping for user777's opinion -- that the MPG will improve as the car's mileage reaches a certain level -- but I tend to believe plethysmo's and suplerglide's opinion that the MPGs I posted are representative of my driving conditions and habit.
You know what, I'm not getting an automatic transmission on my next Honda purchase -- I just hate that awful auto-trans engine sound, especially at speeds between 40 and 50 MPH. And it's sluggish.
i'm going to calculate some numbers on my 02 Accord 4cyl 4-dr A/T and post them here. to be honest, i'm not sure what MPG i'm getting lately with the sedan so it's time to check. this is going to sound funny, but i think my vehicle does a bit better mileage wise with 89 octane... maybe it's the christmas cookies talking.
i miss my '94 couple M/T. i got into the current ride because i purchased a used vehicle when the '94 experienced an odd failure at 150K. that was a nice car. i found when shopping for a used M/T, it pretty tough in ATL locating a good one. maybe i should have purchased new. oh well.
i too experience the '02 4-cyl a bit lacking in power in some hilly conditions. over time, i've become used to that. when passing or needing power, i generally don't shift down the A/T, i just apply strong throttle and it downshifts. i've never found an A/T shifter natural...must be the decades of exclusively driving manuals.
when in our '03 Odyssey, the difference with the V6, even with the additional weight of the van over our sedan is pretty obvious. the gearing in the '03 is smoother with another gear, and i think the firewall insulation better. the odyssey i feel has a pretty quiet engine, even when you push it.
in the end, i think the 4-cyl accord is set up to be more of a gas sipper. when loaded, i'd expect you have to push it more, and the engine is going to complain. when you are solo, you will probably get used to it's response and increase your mileage as your driving habits change somewhat.
I've driven the V6 6M coupe... and it was a lot of fun to drive, but in my experience with Toyotas, there's always a penalty to pay with the gas mileage in the V6 over the 4. There's a really steep hill I have to go up to get to my house, and sometimes I use the shifter (if I want to irritate some SUV nearby) to get up the hill faster than them... BUT I'm absolutely impressed with how much power the 4cyl 5sp auto has.
I'd like to have a 6M in most of what I buy, but one thing I've found is that it has significantly less resale value than the automatic. Not many exceptions to that, other than the new GTO I drove recently... which I'd much rather have than the V6 6M Accord... if it only said Honda on it :-(
"..you seem like a prime candidate for membership in the very small group of those who shift for themselves."
Hi ezshift5, yeah please count me in. :-) :-) Right now I have to be contented with driving an auto transmission, with occasional manual shifts to D3, "2". I think that using the "D3"/"2" gears is beneficial to both the engine and the transmission, especially when driving with the whole family on a mostly-hilly terrain, and on quick mergings in fast freeways. No engine lugging, albeit a slightly lower MPG.
I couldn't find another forum for non-hybrid model Accords. I have a new 2006 EX 4-cyl auto, and just got home froma 500 mile round trip. I managed 36.43 miles per gallon on the 75+mph highway trip to the beach! (I Got 32.10 mpg around town while I was there)I was so excited, especially since this is 2 1/2 mpg ABOVE EPA estimates! Best of luck with all of your Hybrids, and sorry for my interruption to gloat!
just refilled the first full tank run on my new 2005 (now witha whopping 400 miles on the odo). Got just about 26mpg, but the bulk of my driving is short hop local (lots of short trips, stop signs and lights, and cold starts). Maybe 15% was on a couple of short highway legs (65-75ish).
Pretty impressive to me for given the size of the car. The 4 cyl stick powertrain is also quite peppy (at least if you keep it above 2K), and the gearing is condusive for comfortable and economical highway cruising.
To compare, my previous car (a Scion tC manual tranny) which weighed less but was geared shorter got about 23-24 mpg in the same driving after it was broken in (I think it was more like 22ish at first).
Can't wait to see what it will do when I finally get to take a long trip. Mid 30's seems quite reasonable if I can keep the speed down.
I've been getting in the 26 mpg range over this winter so far. My driving is about 75% highway commute with speeds ranging from a crawl to 70-75. I have not been too impressed with this, though I did have one tank at 32 mpg over the summer.
Might be a winter gas formulation issue, but I think it should be better.
I got 32 mpg during a recent trip from Enterprise, AL to Augusta, GA, and I get about 25 mpg driving around town and a short 8 mile trip down the highway to work. From what I've seen from Honda and ConsumerReports this is about what it should get. It's a lot better than the 17 mpg my previous car was getting.
Isn't the 6th gear the same ratio as the 5th in Auto models? I agree that mileage is a strong point on these Accords, and most people shopping don't even realize it! The economy on this (as well as Camry's and now Hyundai's Sonata) car is comparable to many COMPACT donestics (Cobalt, Focus, even Mazda 3!).
The only thing that disappoints me is I keep reading posts about how the V6's get just as good or even better mpg's than the four cylinders. I thought I was giving up some power for fuel economy, but I guess I could have had both.
you can read lots of things here, but be careful of directly comparing them.
The V6 can get quite good mileage under steady state cruising conditions, but a 4 cyl should still do better, under the same conditions.
But, in around town use, there should be a bigger difference in the favor of the 4 cyl (at least, that is usually the case).
One interesting way to compare is using consumers reports. Sometimes they test a V6 and a 4 cyl model at the same time, plus their test conditions pretty much are comparable issue to issue. If you can find the results for the V6 and 4 cyl that should give you a good idea of their relative performance.
Hey that's how I got it approved The AEM V2 and Tanabe that I plan to add will also help the mileage won't they? The EPA is 23/32 even with the fairly low gearing.
Yes, its does use premium becuase of 11:1 compression, slight bummer.
With a manual transmission, fun is always in the equation.
I can get very good mileage with cruise control. And really less not using it. A person cannot adjust as finely and as accurately as cruise control.
That idea is simply way off It is not fine control, its anticipation of the road ahead that CC will cost you in terms of fuel consumed over a given distance.
I can get 32 mph highway with Cruise at 65 mph and 29 mpg highway with cruise at 80 mph.
I am about 50% greater then those numbers at those speeds? As for the rest, why bother attempting to teach others to drive efficiently when you have never achieved even decent FE yourself. I am not speaking about the EPA either
"Which translates into just over 2100 or so at 65" (6-speed V6)
Ok, my 4-cyl Auto (2006 EX model) turns 2000 rpm at 60mph, so it is apparently identical (or mind-bendingly close) to the same gearing as the 6-speed V-6.
I wonder if Houston is as flat as Chicago because we have no hills around here either? Do all your Interstates, State Routes, and local roads have stop signs and lights any time they cross or do you have overpasses in Houston just like we have here in Chicago? Using Cruise even in Chicago takes away from an Accord’s true FE capability. You may never understand this but most roads are not truly flat let alone what cruse control does to your overall FE even on the flattest roads on earth
You can get 50% greater. If you can I would be truly amazed:
32 mpg Highway at 65 plus 50% equals 48 mpg NO WAY! 29 mpg Highway at 80 plus 50% equals 43.5 mpg NO WAY !
I guess I would never receive THOSE NUMBERS by your estimates then? Of course the pic below is what the PZEV I4 allowed me yesterday and today? Yes, On E10 - Winter RFG, in Chicago, and in mid January. Of course I did have temps from 31 to 57 degrees F for this result. You must be right though, I would never hit a paltry 48/43.5 mpg in an Accord V6! Other then in my sleep with both hands tied behind my back
PS: Time is money for me too so I only keep up with traffic, not jump lane to lane to pass while riding the accelerator and brake at the same time
Yes your computer does show 63.7 mpg for 179.7 miles
But look your elapsed time is only 1:53 (one hour 53 minutes) that is the same as 1.8833 hours
So to obtain the average speed you travelled at, I divide the total miles 179.7 by the elapsed time 1.8833 hours and I obtain an average miles per hour of 95.4
just filled up on my second tank for city driving. I hit just a bit over 24 mpg. The first full tank in the city netted about 22 mpg. Our highway trip over New Years down to Tenn. & back netted 34.5 mpg for a little over 600 miles. So far very pleased with the mpg and the car as a whole. Live in Dayton Ohio and the temp have been pretty mild lately which I know helps.
Because you have not been paying attention to multiple posts about the Accord’s TC - E/T showing ICE-On time, please read before inserting foot. You aren’t even on the same planet let alone league when it comes to FE capabilities in an Accord
Now about that paltry 43.5/48 mpg in the V6? YM definitely varies and to the low side unfortunately
Your fuel display picture was incorrect. How do we know there isn't more than one problem. You used your picture as proof and there is something that just doesn't add up. Please don't try to insult me. I have a trip computer just like it and mine works completely including elaosed time.
MidCow
P.S.- I would be wiiling to be I enjoy driving and have a whole lot more fun going from point A to B.
My FCD is very close to correct and its very easy for you to figure it out if you have the NAVI equipped Accord. You do right? Run down your block and go ICE-Off to a stop or just boot up your car but do not start it. If your E/T increases while sitting in the drive, you are the only one on the planet who has a NAVI equipped Accord whose E/T increases under that condition. What I find when pushing a segment in the Accord is that the FCD falls behind the actual by ~ 15 mpg at 90 + mpg, 10 mpg at 70 mpg, and about 7 mpg at 65 mpg. This is backed up with top off to top off - fuel consumed from the pump/miles driven. Let us just say your 43/48 mpg from a V6 would be impossible for you but is a walk in the park for many others w/ an Auto even though you have an extreme advantage with a stick.
I have a trip computer just like it and mine works completely including elaosed time.
So your NAVI’s FCD is broke or is whatever trip computer you are using broke? I would take it in to have it looked at if I were you.
About the fun? You don’t drive from home to work at least 4 times a week? If you do, what about point A to point B do you not understand? Some of us work at least 4 days a week and Point A to Point B describes the typical commute almost to a tee
"Let us just say your 43/48 mpg from a V6 would be impossible for you but is a walk in the park for many others w/ an Auto even though you have an extreme advantage with a stick. "
WOW, if you really get that mileage that is phenomenal. I doubt anyone else even gets close. I would be amazed if you could find even one other person that can get better than 40 mpg with a V6 Accord, auto or standard. I know I can't, even if I practice hyper-driving techniques. Hyper-driving techniques gain me about 5 miles per gallon, but the drive becomes so boring and pedestrian shifting to sixth (6th) at 35 mph that I might as well have a Prius or a Buick! Even so I can only get 27.4 mppg on my work commute and 33 on the highway; which is a far cry from 43/48 or even just 40!!
I have an 04 Accord EX w/Leather, 4 cyl auto. I have only taken it on 2 road trips of about 250 miles each. On each I set the cruise at 78 MPH, (my safe speed for no ticket with 75 speed limit). On both trips I got 34 MPG, the same as EPA hwy rating. 90% of my wifes driving in the car is city, and she averages around 26 MPG. Just some REAL WORLD numbers for anyone looking to buy.
With 15% city driving(without turning on heated seats/ac), I got 32.5 miles per gallon for the second tank of gas for my new accord - 06 , 4cyl, AT. The first tank gave only 23 or so with 50% city driving.
I thought the specification says 26 for city driving and 34 for highway but city driving seems to give less and highway seems to be 2miles less than whats mentioned. Is this a good mileage for this car ?
I have an 04 Accord EX w/Leather, 4 cyl auto. I have only taken it on 2 road trips of about 250 miles each. On each I set the cruise at 78 MPH, (my safe speed for no ticket with 75 speed limit). On both trips I got 34 MPG, the same as EPA hwy rating. 90% of my wifes driving in the car is city, and she averages around 26 MPG. Just some REAL WORLD numbers for anyone looking to buy.
Catam.
i can back this up with my numbers too. I drove 550 miles round trip in my 2006 4-cyl Auto. I maintained steady speed of 75 with occasional (3 or 4 each way) downshifts for passing and the like. I got 36.4mpg on the way there, and 35.55 on the way back. My car has been equipped with the Electronic Throttle Control. Perhaps this helps economy a little? It had about 2,500 miles on it at the time. I now have 3,400 on it, and average 30mpg with a light foot (unless I'm enjoying the power, which is rare, I usually stay under 3,000 rpm at all times). I drive about 2 parts highway (70mph) to one part city (30 and under with LOTS of traffic lights/stop signs).
Just to be clear the claims of 43/48 mileage were Excel's, not mine. I completely agree with your assessment.
Remember the old advertisement some time back where it showed a dog typing on a PC keyboard and it said "On the Internet no one knows you are a dog".
The Internet forums are mainly opinions and thoughts. It is hard to dispute or to prove or disprove an opinion. However, if something is too good to be true then it usually isn't true.
I do not need to make claims, I produce results. Opinions and thoughts? You must be living with your head in the sand as you know where the results are and have seen them multiple times. Welcome to the world of those that care about the FE they receive unlike whatever you are doing? Maybe a quick look at Toyota’s own Priusview website or any number of threads over at GreenHybrid, Insightcentral, or Driveaccord.net would suffice? Maybe the HBO special about GlobalWarming this coming spring will show you what has been achieved. If you don’t believe the Hi-Def camera in the car with me, heaven help you
As for you hypermiling Do you think, you could jump in Jeff Gordon’s race car and take the checkered at Talladega? You wouldn’t stand a chance. Same thing when you are speaking of hypermiling. If you don’t know how or have the experience to achieve such, you are spitting into the wind. 48 from an Accord V6 w/ a stick is child’s play. You have never seen it nor will you ever achieve it but I have nailed far higher in an SUV, let alone a standard Accord w/ a V6.
EZShift5, Areuadork amongstus or is foamer not a derogatory word?
The I4 is worth just a touch under 3X the EPA in warmer weather last fall but that is very old news now
48 mpg with a V6?
A friend of mine in a brand new V6 equipped Toyota Highlander Hybrid on a round trip near his home in Madison, WI. (EPA rated at just 31/27)
The V6 Accord is probably worth 53 - 55 + on a RT segment. Of course I am always willing to go title for title that 48 mpg from the V6 w/ a stick on a round trip segment would fall in less then 20 minutes? MidCow, care to take me up on that as I would love to take your V6 off your hands
on a full tank i got from long beach california, to las vegas nevada, on one tank at about 95 miles an hour the whole way. and still had plenty of gas when i got there to drive around.. 200
Because of the way Edmunds forums are structured, you can’t find anything after a month or two in most cases. Most of the techniques have been posted here but even I would not have a clue where and I posted them! There are other sites with the goods where many a hypermiler hangs out and help one another to achieve excellent FE. The posts, articles, and write ups are much easier to find.
On a more personal note, I traveled a good distance from Illinois for my PZEV and it’s always nice to hear from a fellow Accord enthusiast with a pro-environment outlook.
MidCow, a Turbonator? You have got to be kidding me! Have you ever looked at the multitudes of gimmicks for higher FE tested by the EPA decades ago? You did notice I said gimmicks, right Many a turbonator like device sits in the vaults waiting for the next energy crisis and the long line of suckers willing to part with their hard earned $’s.
IT WAS ABOUT 24 MPG, AT AROUND AVE SPEED OF 90 MPH. BUT THAT WAS ALSO WITH QUITE A FEW BURSTS OF ME TAKING IT UP TO 130 TO 135 MPH ON A COUPLE OF STRAIGHT AWAYS.
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Many thanks for your replies -- nice tips on how to save gas! What I might find difficult to do is keeping my foot absolutely still on the accelerator. :-) I find this 4-cylinder car to be rather weak on hilly drives and fast-lane merges, and so I often downshift manually to D3 (and sometimes "2" on sharp upward turns, especially when the whole family is riding).
The above could explain my low MPGs, but my previous 03 Accord 5-speed MT was averaging at least 28 miles per gallon! On highways, I'm usually at 65-70 MPH on a 55-MPH zone. You don't get a ticket here in North Carolina until you are MORE than 15 miles above 55 (or speed limits 55 or more).
I'm still hoping for user777's opinion -- that the MPG will improve as the car's mileage reaches a certain level -- but I tend to believe plethysmo's and suplerglide's opinion that the MPGs I posted are representative of my driving conditions and habit.
You know what, I'm not getting an automatic transmission on my next Honda purchase -- I just hate that awful auto-trans engine sound, especially at speeds between 40 and 50 MPH. And it's sluggish.
thanks again, ramida
i miss my '94 couple M/T. i got into the current ride because i purchased a used vehicle when the '94 experienced an odd failure at 150K. that was a nice car. i found when shopping for a used M/T, it pretty tough in ATL locating a good one. maybe i should have purchased new. oh well.
i too experience the '02 4-cyl a bit lacking in power in some hilly conditions. over time, i've become used to that. when passing or needing power, i generally don't shift down the A/T, i just apply strong throttle and it downshifts. i've never found an A/T shifter natural...must be the decades of exclusively driving manuals.
when in our '03 Odyssey, the difference with the V6, even with the additional weight of the van over our sedan is pretty obvious. the gearing in the '03 is smoother with another gear, and i think the firewall insulation better. the odyssey i feel has a pretty quiet engine, even when you push it.
in the end, i think the 4-cyl accord is set up to be more of a gas sipper. when loaded, i'd expect you have to push it more, and the engine is going to complain. when you are solo, you will probably get used to it's response and increase your mileage as your driving habits change somewhat.
...Ramida, not to repeat myself, but you seem like a prime candidate for membership in the very small group of those who shift for themselves.
..When you've the time, I would recommend you test drive the V-6 6M (either coupe or sedan - you choose).
..but leave your checkbook at home unless you're prepared to lose that shiftless i4........
..season's best, ..ez..
:P
I'd like to have a 6M in most of what I buy, but one thing I've found is that it has significantly less resale value than the automatic. Not many exceptions to that, other than the new GTO I drove recently... which I'd much rather have than the V6 6M Accord... if it only said Honda on it :-(
Hi ezshift5, yeah please count me in. :-) :-) Right now I have to be contented with driving an auto transmission, with occasional manual shifts to D3, "2". I think that using the "D3"/"2" gears is beneficial to both the engine and the transmission, especially when driving with the whole family on a mostly-hilly terrain, and on quick mergings in fast freeways. No engine lugging, albeit a slightly lower MPG.
Happy holidays!
ramida :-)
thegrad
Pretty impressive to me for given the size of the car. The 4 cyl stick powertrain is also quite peppy (at least if you keep it above 2K), and the gearing is condusive for comfortable and economical highway cruising.
To compare, my previous car (a Scion tC manual tranny) which weighed less but was geared shorter got about 23-24 mpg in the same driving after it was broken in (I think it was more like 22ish at first).
Can't wait to see what it will do when I finally get to take a long trip. Mid 30's seems quite reasonable if I can keep the speed down.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Might be a winter gas formulation issue, but I think it should be better.
Dave
I got 32 mpg during a recent trip from Enterprise, AL to Augusta, GA,
......it's no secret: the 4-cyl Honda is a very fuel efficient (given half a chance)....
....the V-6 in my 6M coupe averages 25-27 around the state capital and 32-35 on the freeway (using that tall 6th cog).
..great car..
..ez..
I love my Honda!
thegrad
The V6 can get quite good mileage under steady state cruising conditions, but a 4 cyl should still do better, under the same conditions.
But, in around town use, there should be a bigger difference in the favor of the 4 cyl (at least, that is usually the case).
One interesting way to compare is using consumers reports. Sometimes they test a V6 and a 4 cyl model at the same time, plus their test conditions pretty much are comparable issue to issue. If you can find the results for the V6 and 4 cyl that should give you a good idea of their relative performance.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
...I make every effort to distance myself from automatic transmissions...........
..however, for the record: the hard numbers on my coupe's sixth gear: .77 (combined with 3.27 axle provides a circa 2.53 final drive)..
which translates to just over 2100 or so at 65........
..great engineering..
..ez..
I can get very good mileage with cruise control. And really less not using it. A person cannot adjust as finely and as accurately as cruise control.
There are many other driving techniques, besides eliminating cruise control that can save mileage. One is Zaino
I have a 2005 Honda Accord EX V6 6-speed with NAV, K&N Filter and Borla Exhaust and 17K miles
I can get 32 mph highway with Cruise at 65 mph and 29 mpg highway with cruise at 80 mph.
Soon to be double sixes :shades: ,
MidCow
P.S.- I have on order a 6-speed Civic commuter car for better mileage. H'mm might even use cruise control.
Buy that to have fun. If you are going to drive like a granny to try and sqeeze out a few more MPG, get an EX instead.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Yes, its does use premium becuase of 11:1 compression, slight bummer.
With a manual transmission, fun is always in the equation.
Double Sixes,
MidCow
I can get very good mileage with cruise control. And really less not using it. A person cannot adjust as finely and as accurately as cruise control.
That idea is simply way off It is not fine control, its anticipation of the road ahead that CC will cost you in terms of fuel consumed over a given distance.
I can get 32 mph highway with Cruise at 65 mph and 29 mpg highway with cruise at 80 mph.
I am about 50% greater then those numbers at those speeds? As for the rest, why bother attempting to teach others to drive efficiently when you have never achieved even decent FE yourself. I am not speaking about the EPA either
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
Have you ever seen Houston, it is flat as a pancake; there are no hills
So you can anticipate hills and the road ahead when it is straight and flat. What is there to naticipate ?
You can get 50% greater. If you can I would be truly amazed:
32 mpg Highway at 65 plus 50% equals 48 mpg NO WAY!
29 mpg Highway at 80 plus 50% equals 43.5 mpg NO WAY !
YMMV,
MidCow
P.S.- Why aren't you still driving yourInsight ?
P.S.S.- I am happy with my mileage equalling and slightly exceeding EPA. But for me. time is also money!
(6-speed V6)
Ok, my 4-cyl Auto (2006 EX model) turns 2000 rpm at 60mph, so it is apparently identical (or mind-bendingly close) to the same gearing as the 6-speed V-6.
thegrad
I wonder if Houston is as flat as Chicago because we have no hills around here either? Do all your Interstates, State Routes, and local roads have stop signs and lights any time they cross or do you have overpasses in Houston just like we have here in Chicago? Using Cruise even in Chicago takes away from an Accord’s true FE capability. You may never understand this but most roads are not truly flat let alone what cruse control does to your overall FE even on the flattest roads on earth
You can get 50% greater. If you can I would be truly amazed:
32 mpg Highway at 65 plus 50% equals 48 mpg NO WAY!
29 mpg Highway at 80 plus 50% equals 43.5 mpg NO WAY !
I guess I would never receive THOSE NUMBERS by your estimates then? Of course the pic below is what the PZEV I4 allowed me yesterday and today? Yes, On E10 - Winter RFG, in Chicago, and in mid January. Of course I did have temps from 31 to 57 degrees F for this result. You must be right though, I would never hit a paltry 48/43.5 mpg in an Accord V6! Other then in my sleep with both hands tied behind my back
PS: Time is money for me too so I only keep up with traffic, not jump lane to lane to pass while riding the accelerator and brake at the same time
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
Yes your computer does show 63.7 mpg for 179.7 miles
But look your elapsed time is only 1:53 (one hour 53 minutes) that is the same as 1.8833 hours
So to obtain the average speed you travelled at, I divide the total miles 179.7 by the elapsed time 1.8833 hours and I obtain an average miles per hour of 95.4
I would say your trip computer is broken!
YMMV,
MidCow
Because you have not been paying attention to multiple posts about the Accord’s TC - E/T showing ICE-On time, please read before inserting foot. You aren’t even on the same planet let alone league when it comes to FE capabilities in an Accord
Now about that paltry 43.5/48 mpg in the V6? YM definitely varies and to the low side unfortunately
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
Your fuel display picture was incorrect. How do we know there isn't more than one problem. You used your picture as proof and there is something that just doesn't add up. Please don't try to insult me. I have a trip computer just like it and mine works completely including elaosed time.
MidCow
P.S.- I would be wiiling to be I enjoy driving and have a whole lot more fun going from point A to B.
My FCD is very close to correct and its very easy for you to figure it out if you have the NAVI equipped Accord. You do right? Run down your block and go ICE-Off to a stop or just boot up your car but do not start it. If your E/T increases while sitting in the drive, you are the only one on the planet who has a NAVI equipped Accord whose E/T increases under that condition. What I find when pushing a segment in the Accord is that the FCD falls behind the actual by ~ 15 mpg at 90 + mpg, 10 mpg at 70 mpg, and about 7 mpg at 65 mpg. This is backed up with top off to top off - fuel consumed from the pump/miles driven. Let us just say your 43/48 mpg from a V6 would be impossible for you but is a walk in the park for many others w/ an Auto even though you have an extreme advantage with a stick.
I have a trip computer just like it and mine works completely including elaosed time.
So your NAVI’s FCD is broke or is whatever trip computer you are using broke? I would take it in to have it looked at if I were you.
About the fun? You don’t drive from home to work at least 4 times a week? If you do, what about point A to point B do you not understand? Some of us work at least 4 days a week and Point A to Point B describes the typical commute almost to a tee
PS: You would be willing to do what?
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
..ez..
"Let us just say your 43/48 mpg from a V6 would be impossible for you but is a walk in the park for many others w/ an Auto even though you have an extreme advantage with a stick. "
WOW, if you really get that mileage that is phenomenal. I doubt anyone else even gets close. I would be amazed if you could find even one other person that can get better than 40 mpg with a V6 Accord, auto or standard. I know I can't, even if I practice hyper-driving techniques.
Hyper-driving techniques gain me about 5 miles per gallon, but the drive becomes so boring and pedestrian shifting to sixth (6th) at 35 mph that I might as well have a Prius or a Buick! Even so I can only get 27.4 mppg on my work commute and 33 on the highway; which is a far cry from 43/48 or even just 40!!
YMMV,
MidCow
I have only taken it on 2 road trips of about 250 miles each. On each I set the cruise at 78 MPH, (my safe speed for no ticket with 75 speed limit).
On both trips I got 34 MPG, the same as EPA hwy rating.
90% of my wifes driving in the car is city, and she averages around 26 MPG.
Just some REAL WORLD numbers for anyone looking to buy.
Catam.
The first tank gave only 23 or so with 50% city driving.
I thought the specification says 26 for city driving and 34 for highway but city driving seems to give less and highway seems to be 2miles less than whats mentioned. Is this a good mileage for this car ?
im thinking of buying a o6 accord ex v6
does it have something on the dash to say what the mpg is, im not getting nav.
thanks
dan
Let's just say you can claim just about anything, but allow us not to take your claims seriously.
I have only taken it on 2 road trips of about 250 miles each. On each I set the cruise at 78 MPH, (my safe speed for no ticket with 75 speed limit).
On both trips I got 34 MPG, the same as EPA hwy rating.
90% of my wifes driving in the car is city, and she averages around 26 MPG.
Just some REAL WORLD numbers for anyone looking to buy.
Catam.
i can back this up with my numbers too. I drove 550 miles round trip in my 2006 4-cyl Auto. I maintained steady speed of 75 with occasional (3 or 4 each way) downshifts for passing and the like. I got 36.4mpg on the way there, and 35.55 on the way back. My car has been equipped with the Electronic Throttle Control. Perhaps this helps economy a little? It had about 2,500 miles on it at the time. I now have 3,400 on it, and average 30mpg with a light foot (unless I'm enjoying the power, which is rare, I usually stay under 3,000 rpm at all times). I drive about 2 parts highway (70mph) to one part city (30 and under with LOTS of traffic lights/stop signs).
Do you know why I am not getting the good mileage that you are getting ?
Just to be clear the claims of 43/48 mileage were Excel's, not mine. I completely agree with your assessment.
Remember the old advertisement some time back where it showed a dog typing on a PC keyboard and it said "On the Internet no one knows you are a dog".
The Internet forums are mainly opinions and thoughts. It is hard to dispute or to prove or disprove an opinion. However, if something is too good to be true then it usually isn't true.
Have a good evening,
MidCow
I do not need to make claims, I produce results. Opinions and thoughts? You must be living with your head in the sand as you know where the results are and have seen them multiple times. Welcome to the world of those that care about the FE they receive unlike whatever you are doing? Maybe a quick look at Toyota’s own Priusview website or any number of threads over at GreenHybrid, Insightcentral, or Driveaccord.net would suffice? Maybe the HBO special about GlobalWarming this coming spring will show you what has been achieved. If you don’t believe the Hi-Def camera in the car with me, heaven help you
As for you hypermiling Do you think, you could jump in Jeff Gordon’s race car and take the checkered at Talladega? You wouldn’t stand a chance. Same thing when you are speaking of hypermiling. If you don’t know how or have the experience to achieve such, you are spitting into the wind. 48 from an Accord V6 w/ a stick is child’s play. You have never seen it nor will you ever achieve it but I have nailed far higher in an SUV, let alone a standard Accord w/ a V6.
EZShift5, Areuadork amongstus or is foamer not a derogatory word?
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
Yeah, right ...
You got it! Child’s play.
http://www.toyota.com/html/hybridsynergyview/2005/fall/marathon.html
The I4 is worth just a touch under 3X the EPA in warmer weather last fall but that is very old news now
48 mpg with a V6?
A friend of mine in a brand new V6 equipped Toyota Highlander Hybrid on a round trip near his home in Madison, WI. (EPA rated at just 31/27)
The V6 Accord is probably worth 53 - 55 + on a RT segment. Of course I am always willing to go title for title that 48 mpg from the V6 w/ a stick on a round trip segment would fall in less then 20 minutes? MidCow, care to take me up on that as I would love to take your V6 off your hands
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
Let's dispense with the personal pot shots or I'll have to bring out my own cast iron.
Like, HOW do you get your car to conserve gasoline? How should other drivers run their cars to get high mpg?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
http://www.turbonator.com/
Is that Excel's secret?
I am only able to get 10% more than EPA because of my poor FE habits and because I don't have NASCAR level hypermiler experience or wisdom Sigh!
Double sixes,
MidCow
I'm curious as I have 2005 Accord Sedan EX-V6 and best on highway is only 34mpg (75-80mph) , around town only 21mpg.
Thanks.
Because of the way Edmunds forums are structured, you can’t find anything after a month or two in most cases. Most of the techniques have been posted here but even I would not have a clue where and I posted them! There are other sites with the goods where many a hypermiler hangs out and help one another to achieve excellent FE. The posts, articles, and write ups are much easier to find.
On a more personal note, I traveled a good distance from Illinois for my PZEV and it’s always nice to hear from a fellow Accord enthusiast with a pro-environment outlook.
MidCow, a Turbonator? You have got to be kidding me! Have you ever looked at the multitudes of gimmicks for higher FE tested by the EPA decades ago? You did notice I said gimmicks, right
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
BUT THAT WAS ALSO WITH QUITE A FEW BURSTS OF ME TAKING IT UP TO 130 TO 135 MPH ON A COUPLE OF STRAIGHT AWAYS.