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Honda Pilot Real World MPG

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  • rpowersrpowers Member Posts: 24
    I've tried the max pressure, dosen't seem to help, thanks for the suggestion.
  • rpowersrpowers Member Posts: 24
    Thanks, I'll give it a try next week on vacation.
  • puppup Member Posts: 9
    On my first tank of gas for my 2WD EX-L with RES, got 18.7 MPG with about 50/50 city/highway driving. I was expecting a bit better. Hopefully, the subsequent tanks will be better.
  • pilot3rdpilot3rd Member Posts: 13
    Just did a trip from Central Valley of CA to Colorado Springs, with side trip to Estes Park, and back.
    Only 1500 miles on Pilot when we left.
    Set tires to 35 PSI and cruised at 75 most of the time.
    Total miles -3180
    Avg. MPG - 22.04
    Best tank - 24.3 (next to last fill-up)
    Worst tank - 19.6 (half city/half hiway)
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    "I use 87 octane pump gas from 76, Circle K and Citgo for the most part. I fill up almost every time, rarely $10 in. I use MILES/GALS according to the trip odo. Tires at 32psi."

    I do not own a Pilot, but there are some things I do for any vehicle:

    1. Use major name fuel with detergent cleansers. I use Mobil, Exxon, Shell, or Texaco exclusively, except in emergency situations.

    2. I would wait until your tank is lower, so that you put in around 15-16 gallons. Putting in lower fuel amounts increases the chance that your math (miles/gallons) is skewed because of car position at the pumps, etc. The most accurate calculations are those with the largest numbers. $10 in gas represents only around 5 gallons! There is a good chance that you may be getting better MPG than you think.

    3. Put as much PSI in your tires as you can, within the restrictions on the side of the tire (max cold pressure) and your own comfort level.
  • rpamplonarpamplona Member Posts: 1
    yeah i fully agree with that bro, i am doin in with our vehicles. We just bought our new 06 Pilot last month, and just would like to know if anyone here had an experience of installing K&N high airflow filter on your Pilot instead of the OEM filter being used, I just thought that might help the gas mileage stuff that is being discussed here. thanks
  • wrascalwrascal Member Posts: 25
    Short weekend trip

    going: 280 miles/ averaged just over 25 mpg
    returning via diff route/ averaged just under 25 mpg

    I did drive easy - 65 on cruise whenever possible. Approx 100 miles (each way) was basically country roads, the rest interstate.

    Will repeat this trip in several weeks, and will probably drive it hard, just for comparison purposes.
  • feet2firefeet2fire Member Posts: 13
    We usually check the gas mileage on our vehicles w/every fillup. We tend to drive pretty gently on the gas pedal. Got our AWD EX-L last month. Here's what we have so far:

    Tank 1: 378 miles, mostly secondary mountain/hilly road commuting: 20.3 mpg

    Tank 2: 301 miles, same driving as tank 1: 21.0 mpg

    Tank 3: 419 miles, mostly trip up and down I-91 in Vermont (mountainous/hilly) and some secondary roads: 23.7 mpg. We varied the speed up and down the mountainous sections, didn't use the cruise control.

    Maybe it'll get better after break-in, but for now we're happy with it even though gas is what it costs. I calculated the mileage after applying a correction factor for the odometer: I found that while calibrating the odometer by using the mile posts along I-91, the odo was consistently about 2% fast (about 102 miles by the odo when we'd traveled 100 miles according to the mile posts). No big deal I suppose, but anyone know if the mile posts are typically correct on the interstates?
  • wrascalwrascal Member Posts: 25
    Same destination, but had to go off route and into traffic, both coming and going. So going, now 300 miles with city stop and go, speeds typically at 75 mph, yielded just over 23.5 mpg. I still consider this driving easy, using cruise control, with very little breaking necessary.

    Returning, yet again another route (this time with an additional 50 miles of city lights) and cruise control frequently at 89'ish, I still got +22.5 mpg.

    Occasionally, while following high speed traffic, I hit the century mark. Vehicle felt very stable, but my nerves weren't up to following them for too long.

    Now, the flip side, my wife typically gets only in the high teens. She likes to be either on the gas, or on the brake. I try to drive as if I had no brakes, and try to anticipate traffic and allow the vehicle to maintain motion.
  • brucek1brucek1 Member Posts: 4
    I have a 2006 EXL 4WD, and I noticed that mine was off 2.56 miles for every 100 miles or 2.56%. I used the NY Thruway mile posts. I verified it with my other car which was right on. I was told the 2.56% is probably within the specification of the odometer. I guess it doesn't mean too much, at 100,000 miles it will read 102,560, I can live with that.
  • franellafranella Member Posts: 20
    I just got a 2006 EX-L 2WD Pilot and my first tank I got 19.5. Coming out of my little Civic Hatchback 1994 SI which gets 35 highway, this has taken a lot of give and take on my part. But I want safety. One excellent idea that I got from my son is to get a gas card that gives you 5% cash back. My new Discover card does that also, except on major discounted places like BJ's. What helps is to relate it to actual dollars. My boyfriend took the same 250 mile trip as I did in a 1994 Toyota Corolla. He got 27 mpg. compared to my 19.5. If I did the math right at $2.879/gal. I spent $10.08 more than he did and I know for sure I was safer on the highway. With 5% back, I didn't even spend $9 more.
  • meyervillameyervilla Member Posts: 40
    2004 Pilot 30K, K & N Air Filter - They really work! Anyone try synthetic oil?
  • pup975pup975 Member Posts: 13
    As a follow up, I've got about 3500 miles on my 2006 2WD EX-L w/RES. I'm pretty much averaging aroudn 21 MPG. I drive about 70/30 hwy/city driving and drive about 78-80 on the interstate. Best tank was 22.3 MPG, and the worst tank was the inital 18.7 MPG. I haven't dipped below 20 MPG since the first 2 tanks. Interestingly, I took a road trip that was 95% hwy and still only got about 21.5 MPG. Overall, not too disappointed since it's right in line with the EPA estimates, but I haven't seen the 24 MPG that some people are getting.
  • franellafranella Member Posts: 20
    I'm drawing a big blank. What is RES?
  • pup975pup975 Member Posts: 13
    RES = Rear Entertainment System = DVD System
  • nylajnylaj Member Posts: 24
    Are you consistently getting over 20 - 22 mpg in the 2WD Pilot? Sounds like your wife is getting a bit lower though.

    Thanks!
  • nylajnylaj Member Posts: 24
    Wow! 20+ mpg in the AWD?! Are you consistently getting this type of mileage in the AWD EX-L? How do I have to drive to expect those kind of numbers?

    Thanks!
  • kjjerrykjjerry Member Posts: 6
    Live in central but work in northern NJ. rush hour traffic, 50/50 stop and go and 75mph. Usually get 18.7 to 20.2 MPG.

    Just returned from a trip to Toronto, Canada. Got the best mpg out of the car, (current ODO 18216) 24.22 MPG. A/C was on all the way set to 72 degree full auto. (I maintained between 70 to 80 mph) Tires set to 32.5psi (original good year tires and regular gas)

    GPS worked great even in Canada! I did not even need to print out any map quest even was driving around in Toronto.
  • bcruisingbcruising Member Posts: 2
    I just bought an 03 EX AWD, with 38 K miles, took it on a trip this weekend got 16.2 on highway with hills, 15 in the city. Does this sound normal to you ?

    I'm seeing all types of numbers on this message board.

    I don't know if there is something wrong with this car.

    May I have your thoughts.
  • bcruisingbcruising Member Posts: 2
    I bought an 03 EX AWD with 38K miles. Took it on a trip, mileage did not seem too good, 16.2 hwy, 15 city. I was disappointed. Original sticker says 17 -22, I would have been pleased with at least 20 on the hwy.

    May I have some input.
  • feet2firefeet2fire Member Posts: 13
    Hi nylaj,

    First of all let me apologize for forgetting to put in a subject line on my original email....should have read "EXL AWD mileage" or something like that. Instead, the subject line is my I.D.!?

    To answer your question, yes, we are consistently getting 20+ mpg in the AWD. Here's our driving profile:

    - Mostly 2 lane hilly/mountainous northern New Hampshire commuting/day trips (we're about 50 miles from the nearest interstate)

    - Little use of the A/C so far; it's been pretty mild since we got the car in April

    - We're pretty easy on the throttle, tend to drive conservatively, plus we rarely go over 55-60 mph on these roads

    More recent mpg info:

    On a 423 mile tankful, with just over 2000 miles on the odo, we got 24.7 mpg. This tank was mostly a day trip on US Rte 2 over to Maine, with maybe a hundred miles or so of daily commute mixed in. The 24.7 mpg figure includes the 2% odo error I mentioned in the original email; the odo is still about 2% fast. Again, we didn't use the A/C much.

    I think the moderate speeds we're held down to on the two lane roads helps the mileage, but the hills probably cost us some mpg. Also, when winter hits and it gets around zero or + - 10 degrees, everybody's mileage will go down significantly around here.

    By comparison, our beloved 99 CR-V AWD automatic, which our Pilot just replaced, got up to 27-28 mpg under similar road trip conditions. We drove the CR-V around here for most of its life....when we sold it this spring it had 85,000 miles on it, with the original brakes.

    Anyway, hope this helps....we'll keep tracking our mpg especially since it's so expensive lately. feet2fire
  • wrascalwrascal Member Posts: 25
    This morning, I stuffed the gas tank as full as possible, and took a 388 mile round trip; upon returning I fueled up (again as full as possible), and did the math. I used 15.54 gal.

    Tires at 32 psi, oil at 5W20, 19.2K on the odo. I drove smoothly between 65 - 75 (GPS log shows a peak of 81 MPH). Mostly all open/level highway.

    This is on an 05 Pilot EX AWD.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I stuffed the gas tank as full as possible

    I keep hearing that's not a good practice since it can overtax your vapor recovery system and trigger the check engine light.

    Steve, Host
  • pup975pup975 Member Posts: 13
    Any thought on whether turning off the back A/C saves any significant gas? I have an 2WD EX-L and usually push the button to turn off the auto air in the back to allow manual control (which is in the off position).
  • aleck828aleck828 Member Posts: 22
    My guess is it will save gas, but not significantly. It will be difficult to tell the difference. I have the same car as yours, btw.
  • aleck828aleck828 Member Posts: 22
    Bought in mid April, now has about 2800 miles. The first tank was really bad, 16.9 m/g. I drive about 7 miles a day to and from the Metro Park & Ride, and about 50 miles on weekends on hwy. The subsequent tanks were better, getting 18+ m/g.

    On the July 4th weekend we went to San Antonio from Houston, 4 adults, 3 kids (the oldest kid, my 12-yr-old nephew, weighs about 150 lbs), A/C on all the time, and it got 22.27 m/g on about 70/30 hwy/local driving. The latest tank got me 19.5 m/g on about 50/50 hwy/local driving.

    Not very good gas milage, but I am not too disappointed.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    From We Test the Tips:

    "Test #4 A/C On, Windows Up vs. A/C Off, Windows Down

    Result: Nice in theory; not true in practice

    Cold Hard Facts: No measurable difference (unless you open the sunroof, too!)

    Recommendation: Please, make yourself comfortable."

    Edmunds didn't test one vs. two A/Cs but the savings probably aren't going to be too great. But I rarely use the rear A/C in my minivan. ;)

    What Really Saves Gas? And How Much?

    Steve, Host
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Is the air conditioning in the back provided by a separate compressor? If not, then you can expect no appreciable savings by turning it off.

    tidester, host
  • harryj2harryj2 Member Posts: 1
    My 2005 Pilot gives me between 11.5 and 12.5 mpg on Los Angeles city streets.

    I bought it new in Aug-05 and have put on a little more than 6,000 miles.

    My 7-mile commute to work during off-peak hours takes me about 10-15 minutes. My return commute during peak-hour traffic takes me 25-35 minutes.

    I use 87 octane gasoline; keep tire pressure at 32 psi and use the AC 75% of the time.

    I love Hondas due to their great quality and high resale values.

    Feel sad about my MPG :-((

    Any comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Harry
  • pup975pup975 Member Posts: 13
    Sounds like your main problem is the 14 mph that you're averaging traveling on your return commute. I've noticed that when I have times when I'm sitting in my car with the engine on (such as waiting on my wife when she goes into a store), my gas mileage suffers. You're ride home basically sounds like one big idling session with a little bit of travel. I do feel sad about your return commute. Also since it seems that you're commute to work also involves a lot of stopping and going (getting at best 30 mph average), that isn't helping at all either. I'd figure whatever car you would drive on your commute would have sucky gas mileage (in comparison to the EPA estimates) except for hybrids which are made for commutes like yours.
  • dbrosdbros Member Posts: 81
    Just bought my pilot last saturday July 22, 2006 and drove it 1,193.50 miles from P.A. to FL. On my first full tank I was able to get 23.21 mpg (415.6 miles X 17.90 gallons) :surprise: , on my second full tank I got 22.6 mpg (400.6 miles x 17.6 gallons) :blush: Third tank I got 21.93 mpg (377.30 miles x 17.2 gallons :P . I'm averaging 22.64 mpg overall, I think it has something to do with the weather and speed. Up north last saturday they have a cold weather and storm on the road and I'm just doing around 45-65 varying speed because I'm still breaking in the vehicle but when I'm in Georgia and Florida the weather is HOT :shades: and I was maintaining my speed at 70-75 mph.

    The dealership gave it to me with full tank of gas but I didn't buy that, before I reset my mileage to zero I went to a gasoline station and fill it up and to my discovery it is lacking 1.6 gallon! Figure it out that might be the reason why you have a terrible mileage on your first full tank guys!! :P :P :P
  • fujisfujis Member Posts: 27
    I read a lot of messages from this forum and I'd like to share my experience with you.

    I bought my Pilot EX 2wd last month.

    First tank: 19.7mpg, 60/40 highway/city, A/C always on, in Houston hot weather.

    Sceond tank: 20.7mpg, same condition as above;

    Third tank: 20.8mpg, same condition as above.
  • komodo519komodo519 Member Posts: 8
    We just got finished with a long road trip in our month old 06 Pilot EX 4WD. We did a 5,900 mile trip through Canada and here is the mileage that we got. First test was driving at 65 with no AC for the first leg of about 650 miles. We got 24.3 mpg. Next we tried 65 with AC and averaged 22.2 over 500 miles. Next we did 70 with AC and averaged 20.6 for around 1000 miles. For the last 500 miles we drove at 75 with AC we got around 19. Most of the trip we decided to drive at about 70 with AC. This was all over varied terrain from flat and level for long distances to very steep mountainous terrain. Overall, the mileage that we got was much better than expected and we are very happy with it.
  • hp1hp1 Member Posts: 4
    If you really want to know, consider a Scan gauge II. It reads all of the data from the computer and allows you to display in almost anyway that you want.

    On my truck, a Toyota Tacoma, sitting in the driveway, my truck will use 0.3 gph without the A/C and 0.6 gph with the A/C on full. If I change the rheostat while the A/C is on I can watch the gph change. Okay so that is sitting in the driveway

    Here’s a comparison on the turnpike with the truck in cruise at 65 mph. GPH with A/C on at the warmest setting is 3.1gph or 20.97 mpg, and with the A/C on the coldest setting is 3.7 gph or 17.56 mpg. The change in gph is easy to see as you move the temperature rheostat from the coldest setting to the neutral.
  • odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    Has anyone noticed any difference (Good or Bad) in their MPG's after putting a bug/stone deflector on the front of their Pilot.
    When responding (if you do) please let me know if it is an aftermarket (Lund, Ventvisor, etc) or Honda's OEM shield. I'm debating getting a Ventvisor Bugflector II.

    Thanks

    Odie
    Odie's Carspace
  • kipkkipk Member Posts: 1,576
    I've had a Bug Deflector II for 3 years on 03 Pilot. It was easy to install and only touches paint under the hood where all the screws, rivets, and spot welds are. I'm not sure of the mfg as it is written smaller than these old eyes can read. It is Vent something.

    Easy to install, looks nice, and is durable.

    Over all 4 windows are "VentShade" brand.

    Mileage on this car has always been above average from what I'm reading here.

    Kip
  • kipkkipk Member Posts: 1,576
    2003 LX, 4wd, automatic. Bought new. The first few tanks were in the 15-16 mpg range for my commuting to work.
    Each way is 7 miles, 3 stop signs, 4 traffic lights, 7 roads. Light traffic.

    I bought it January 03 and it now has 21K on the odometer.

    After pulling a light trailer the rear turn signals stopped working. (wiring defect in the trailer). When all was said and done the radio was asking for a code and the Driver Window "AUTO" did not work. Got those going but later noticed that mileage was down about 3MPG for both highway and commuting.

    Read about and discussed with others and finally did the "IDLE Learn Procedure" . Mileage went back up, and then some.

    Commuting = 17-18 mpg.

    Highway trips (2 people)
    24-25 at 80mph (AC as needed and Cruise on)
    25-27 at 70 mph ( same as above)
    28+ at 60-65mph (limited AC and not using Cruise)

    Our 03 4wd automatic CR-V gets 3-4 better locally and 2-3 better on road trips.

    Kip
  • kipkkipk Member Posts: 1,576
    I'm not sure of the mfg as it is written smaller than these old eyes can read. It is Vent something.

    odie6l

    That Bug Deflector II is also a VentShade Product.

    Kip
  • p100p100 Member Posts: 1,116
    I get better mileage than that out of an '06 4X4 crew cab Silverado pickup with 5.3 liter V8 and 3.73 differential gears. I get about 15 MPG in the city driving with A/C on 100% of the time (I live in Florida), and about 17 MPG in highway driving. This with 87 octane, sometimes I use 89. The truck's curb weight is about 5,600 lbs.

    Something is wrong with your vehicle with mileage this low. Pilot is a lot lighter and smaller vehicle than my truck.
  • doctor_dirtdoctor_dirt Member Posts: 8
    Harry,
    I am in the same boat as you. We just bought a 2006 Honda Pilot 4wd EXL and on our 1st tank which was combined city/30% and Highway/70% we got 17.5mpg, 2nd tank same breakdown 17.8mpg, 3rd tank mostly in town 13.2mpg. I don't know whether to think other posters are exaggerating their mileage or something is wrong with my new Pilot. We live in the desert and this time of the year we don't drive around the block without the air on. We have just over 500 miles on the odometer. It would be kind of nice if we could get somewhere near the EPA estimated mileage that was on the sticker. My 2003 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 2wd with 6.0Ltr V8 averages about 12.5 in town with a/c on but the Honda is much more pleasant to drive.
  • odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    you have to wait for the engine to break in , and get the 1st oil change done. Your mileage should start to improve. I keep a book with each fill-up I calculate my mileage, so far with 1500 miles (Purchased July 30th) I've been averaging 17-19 mpg with air on set at 65.

    Odie
    Odie's Carspace
  • kipkkipk Member Posts: 1,576
    My 03 4WD gets 17-19 local and 25-28+ on the road, depending on foot weight.

    It got good mileage from the 1st tank. Then fell off to 14-22 mpg after the battery got disconnected.

    I heard about, studied, and then did the Idle Learn Procedure which is part of Honda dealer's GET READY PROCEDURE.

    Great mileage returned ! :)

    Some of the Idle Learn Procedures are not done at the dealers correctly or they are not done at all. The result is poor mileage to the owner and the dealer telling you to put a couple thousand miles of poor mileage on your car to break it in. Breaking it in is not going to "Fix" the problem.

    The ILP takes very few minutes for the average person to do. All you need is a small adjustable or 10mm wrench to momentarily remove the negative battery cable before doing the procedure.

    Kip
  • mgata1213mgata1213 Member Posts: 11
    I just filled up the tank today. My first fill-up gave me 17 MPG, which I think it is pretty good. Since I am trying to break it in, I haven't taken it above 3000RPM. The MPG was obtained in mixed driving, but most of the time, the VCM was activated. The fastest I got it up to was 70MPH. No hard acceleration though. So far, can't complain about the MPG ;)
  • doctor_dirtdoctor_dirt Member Posts: 8
    The 4th tank I got my best mileage so far of 18.4 and that was driving 60%/highway. I was at 796 miles when I filled my tank and I usually fill up when I get to a 1/4 tank.
  • mark394560mark394560 Member Posts: 1
    Live in the mountains of southern NM and most of our driving is mountain roads to town about 55mph. Milage is excellent average around 24 mpg.
  • newcarguy2newcarguy2 Member Posts: 4
    MPG display - Is there a MPG display in the 2006 Pilot, EX-L with Nav?
  • doctor_dirtdoctor_dirt Member Posts: 8
    NO...unfortunately not. That is one of the really nice features of my Chevrolet Silverado. Instant mileage, average mileage, and range left before fill-up.
  • jlittererjlitterer Member Posts: 39
    Can someone explain how to do the idle learn procedure, step by step? Don't know if the dealer did this before delivery of my vehicle. Should I do it just to be safe? Thanks, Jeff
  • newcarguy2newcarguy2 Member Posts: 4
    I just don't understand how a car w/ an MSRP of $36k doesn't have simple features like that, especially since MPG is a selling point of the pilot vs. other SUVs. Also, auto on/off lights, rain sensing wipers, power passenger front seat...I get that they're trying to bump you up to the MDX, but it still irks me.

    I'm placing calls to Jeep today to see where that price comes in. It comes with everything and the accessories are less - trade off amenities for reputation?
  • newcarguy2newcarguy2 Member Posts: 4
    So what's the best way to accurately calculate mpg?
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