2017 Mercedes Benz E-Class Lease Questions

lctnrjllctnrjl Member Posts: 27
edited July 2017 in Mercedes-Benz
What is the Residual Value % and Money Factor for a 2017 E300 4Matic with Luxury Package in July 2017 for 36 month /10k miles per year lease in Los Angeles, California, without Autopay?

What is the discount for Autopay?

Is there an additional discount for a top tier 1 repeat customer with MB Financial Services? If so, what is the discount?

Thank-you

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352
    lctnrjl said:

    What is the Residual Value % and Money Factor for a 2017 E300 4Matic with Luxury Package in July 2017 for 36 month /10k miles per year lease in Los Angeles, California, without Autopay?

    What is the discount for Autopay?

    Is there an additional discount for a top tier 1 repeat customer with MB Financial Services? If so, what is the discount?

    Thank-you

    .00092 MF and 59% residual
    Subtract .00010 for autopay.

    Don't have any loyalty information

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  • lctnrjllctnrjl Member Posts: 27
    Thank-you kyfdx. I really appreciate your help.
  • lctnrjllctnrjl Member Posts: 27
    Considering 3 years / 30,000 miles Mercedes Benz Star Service Prepaid Maintenance on E300 4Matic for $1,125

    1) Can the prepaid maintenance fee be negotiated?

    2) What is the prepaid maintenance’s:
    (a) Invoice price
    (b) Lowest price negotiated
    (c) Target price?

    3) Is it better pay the entire amount for Prepaid Maintenance up front at lease signing?

    (a) Or add the prepaid maintenance fee to the adjusted capitalized cost and capitalize this fee?

    (b) If yes, then why?

    Thank-you in advance for your assistance on this matter.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    lctnrjl said:

    Considering 3 years / 30,000 miles Mercedes Benz Star Service Prepaid Maintenance on E300 4Matic for $1,125

    1) Can the prepaid maintenance fee be negotiated?

    2) What is the prepaid maintenance’s:
    (a) Invoice price
    (b) Lowest price negotiated
    (c) Target price?

    3) Is it better pay the entire amount for Prepaid Maintenance up front at lease signing?

    (a) Or add the prepaid maintenance fee to the adjusted capitalized cost and capitalize this fee?

    (b) If yes, then why?

    Thank-you in advance for your assistance on this matter.

    1. Not sure if the price can be negotiated.
    2. No information on pricing
    3. If the dealer will allow the Maintenance to be added to the cap cost and residualized, that's our recommendation. That way, you only pay the depreciated cost of whatever price the package is.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352
    lctnrjl said:

    Considering 3 years / 30,000 miles Mercedes Benz Star Service Prepaid Maintenance on E300 4Matic for $1,125

    1) Can the prepaid maintenance fee be negotiated?

    2) What is the prepaid maintenance’s:
    (a) Invoice price
    (b) Lowest price negotiated
    (c) Target price?

    3) Is it better pay the entire amount for Prepaid Maintenance up front at lease signing?

    (a) Or add the prepaid maintenance fee to the adjusted capitalized cost and capitalize this fee?

    (b) If yes, then why?

    Thank-you in advance for your assistance on this matter.

    1) Yes
    2) No idea
    3) Roll it in
    b) Items paid upfront probably won't be refunded, if the car is lost early to total or theft.

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  • lctnrjllctnrjl Member Posts: 27
    A dealer inadvertently mentioned the Mercedes corporate office released factory incentives and additional discounts, like discounts to the money factor, increased residual values and summer event bonus discounts to selling prices to further incentivize the sale of 2017 cars at end of model year but he would not provide any details.

    Can you please help me with the details?

    Are there additional discounts, factory rebates, dealer incentives going on right now in SoCal for the 2017 E300 4matic (36mo/10k Lease) as the model year ends?

    If yes, what are they?

    Thank-you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    lctnrjl said:

    A dealer inadvertently mentioned the Mercedes corporate office released factory incentives and additional discounts, like discounts to the money factor, increased residual values and summer event bonus discounts to selling prices to further incentivize the sale of 2017 cars at end of model year but he would not provide any details.

    Can you please help me with the details?

    Are there additional discounts, factory rebates, dealer incentives going on right now in SoCal for the 2017 E300 4matic (36mo/10k Lease) as the model year ends?

    If yes, what are they?

    Thank-you

    We do not have the MB incentive information.

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  • lctnrjllctnrjl Member Posts: 27
    Will the 2018 E300 still offer the option of the luxury package “Lamella” grill and standing star hood ornament?

    Or is Mercedes planning to eliminate the luxury package grill for 2018 E300’s?

    Thank-you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    lctnrjl said:

    Will the 2018 E300 still offer the option of the luxury package “Lamella” grill and standing star hood ornament?

    Or is Mercedes planning to eliminate the luxury package grill for 2018 E300’s?

    Thank-you

    No information on trim level inclusions or exclusions, sorry.

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  • lctnrjllctnrjl Member Posts: 27
    What is the current Residual Value % and Money Factor for a rear wheel drive 2017 E300 with luxury package for a 36 month /10k miles per year lease in Los Angeles, before the Autopay discount?

    And after the Autopay discount?

    Thank-you. I cannot express enough how much I appreciate your help.

    P.S. Does the brown ash wood trim have a glossy finish or a matte finish?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    lctnrjl said:

    What is the current Residual Value % and Money Factor for a rear wheel drive 2017 E300 with luxury package for a 36 month /10k miles per year lease in Los Angeles, before the Autopay discount?

    And after the Autopay discount?

    Thank-you. I cannot express enough how much I appreciate your help.

    P.S. Does the brown ash wood trim have a glossy finish or a matte finish?

    .00117 and 60%

    .00107 after AutoPay

    I've never shopped for an MB, so cannot answer your last question.

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  • lctnrjllctnrjl Member Posts: 27
    Could I get your thoughts on this offer for 2017 E300 4Matic P1 + Luxury Pkg in SoCal:

    MSRP: $60,275
    Selling Price: $52,600
    Adjusted Cap Cost: $52,663.24

    Don’t know why added $63.24 to cap cost. Any thoughts?

    Lease: 36/10
    RV: 59%
    MF: 0.00092
    Base Monthly: $556.20
    9.25% Sales Tax: $ 51.45
    Total Monthly: $607.65

    Total Drive Off: $2,315 consisting of:
    1st Month’s Payment: $607.65
    Acquisition Fee: $1,095
    DMV Fee: $424
    Doc Fee: $80
    Electronic Filing: $29
    Tire Fee: $8.75
    Unexplained Amount: $70.60 Any Thoughts?

    Quote sheet also stated:
    1) Total Upfront Fees of $455 but does not appear to be included in $2,315 Amount Due at Start. Any Thoughts?

    2) Total Sales Tax: $1,955.04 but Monthly Rent Charge is $81.17 x 36 = $2,922.03. Any Thoughts?

    3) Cash Cap Reduction: $1,031.76 but requested $0 cap cost reduction. Wanted to pay up front only: 1st months payment, DMV, Doc, Filing, Tire and Acquisition Fee. Any Thoughts?

    Dealer unwilling to reduce acquisition fee and unwilling to discount MF for autopay. Any suggestions?

    Is this a good deal? Any room for improvement? If so, where?

    Thank-you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    lctnrjl said:

    Could I get your thoughts on this offer for 2017 E300 4Matic P1 + Luxury Pkg in SoCal:

    MSRP: $60,275
    Selling Price: $52,600
    Adjusted Cap Cost: $52,663.24

    Don’t know why added $63.24 to cap cost. Any thoughts?

    Lease: 36/10
    RV: 59%
    MF: 0.00092
    Base Monthly: $556.20
    9.25% Sales Tax: $ 51.45
    Total Monthly: $607.65

    Total Drive Off: $2,315 consisting of:
    1st Month’s Payment: $607.65
    Acquisition Fee: $1,095
    DMV Fee: $424
    Doc Fee: $80
    Electronic Filing: $29
    Tire Fee: $8.75
    Unexplained Amount: $70.60 Any Thoughts?

    Quote sheet also stated:
    1) Total Upfront Fees of $455 but does not appear to be included in $2,315 Amount Due at Start. Any Thoughts?

    2) Total Sales Tax: $1,955.04 but Monthly Rent Charge is $81.17 x 36 = $2,922.03. Any Thoughts?

    3) Cash Cap Reduction: $1,031.76 but requested $0 cap cost reduction. Wanted to pay up front only: 1st months payment, DMV, Doc, Filing, Tire and Acquisition Fee. Any Thoughts?

    Dealer unwilling to reduce acquisition fee and unwilling to discount MF for autopay. Any suggestions?

    Is this a good deal? Any room for improvement? If so, where?

    Thank-you

    1. I agree with the math.
    2. Ask the dealer about the $455
    3. Tax, cap reduction, acquisition fee markup, autopay - these are things you'll have to negotiate with the dealer. If you don't get what you want, walk. Lots of MB dealers in SoCal.

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  • lctnrjllctnrjl Member Posts: 27
    Thank-you so much for taking the time to reply and so quickly.

    But one question was unanswered: Is this a good deal? Should I take it?

    Really appreciate your opinion.

    Thank-you again.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    lctnrjl said:

    Thank-you so much for taking the time to reply and so quickly.

    But one question was unanswered: Is this a good deal? Should I take it?

    Really appreciate your opinion.

    Thank-you again.

    I don't make decisions with other people's money, especially at these price points.

    :smile:

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  • sailingmoesailingmoe Member Posts: 21
    We are looking at a new 2017 E400 convertible with premium 2 package. Are the money rates and residual the same as the other E400's in the thread? If not can i get them for 36/mon 10k year.

    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352

    We are looking at a new 2017 E400 convertible with premium 2 package. Are the money rates and residual the same as the other E400's in the thread? If not can i get them for 36/mon 10k year.

    Thanks

    .00023 MF and 56% residual

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  • sailingmoesailingmoe Member Posts: 21
    Wow that's a great money factor. I think this car is in play for us.

    Thank you
  • ftlaud2017ftlaud2017 Member Posts: 2
    Can you post the Money Factor and Residual for the 2017 E43 AMG Sedan for 36 and 42 months with 10k and 12k miles.

    thank you
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352

    Can you post the Money Factor and Residual for the 2017 E43 AMG Sedan for 36 and 42 months with 10k and 12k miles.

    thank you

    .00099 MF and 58%/54% residual for 12K/yr
    Add 1% for 10K/yr

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  • ftlaud2017ftlaud2017 Member Posts: 2
    Thank you!
  • sa_nav10sa_nav10 Member Posts: 11
    Hello Folks, Can you please rate this deal and let me know, if this is good:

    2017 E300 with Premium 1 package (MSRP of 59,645).
    • 36 month/10k mile lease.
    • MSRP - 59,645
    • Sale Price: 50,876
    Residual: 59% ($35267)
    MF: 0.00022
    Total Due at signing: $7726 ( Sec. Deposit: $5500; Acq fee: $1025; DMV: 560.75; Tax: 85.19
    Monthly: $452 plus tax; hence total per month: $485
    Zip Code: 91320

    Many Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    sa_nav10 said:

    Hello Folks, Can you please rate this deal and let me know, if this is good:

    2017 E300 with Premium 1 package (MSRP of 59,645).
    • 36 month/10k mile lease.
    • MSRP - 59,645
    • Sale Price: 50,876
    Residual: 59% ($35267)
    MF: 0.00022
    Total Due at signing: $7726 ( Sec. Deposit: $5500; Acq fee: $1025; DMV: 560.75; Tax: 85.19
    Monthly: $452 plus tax; hence total per month: $485
    Zip Code: 91320

    Many Thanks

    Acquisition fee is marked up, but a nice discount from sticker.

    I get $455/mo plus tax, with those numbers, so pretty close to the dealer quote.

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  • firstbenz2firstbenz2 Member Posts: 4
    edited July 2017
    I'd like to get my payments into the mid 500s with tax in Southern California on a premium 1 E300 RWD. The following is the best deal the dealer is willing to give. In order to get to a $570/month payment with tax, the sale price would have to be reduced to approx. $49500. How likely am I to get 12K off MSRP?

    Deal I've been presented:

    $60,500 MSRP
    $51,950 sale price
    36 months/12K miles
    .00117 MF (thank you Michaell for providing the figures yesterday - it really put me in control of the negotiation)
    59% residual
    $1219 due at signing
    $648 per month with tax

    I believe the dealer is including a acquisition fee of over 1K (in a addition to other standard fees like tax, title, registration), but I didn't pay close enough attention.

    With 10 MSDs, my payment would go down to $579/month with tax but I'd like to avoid dishing out $7600.

    Any thoughts? I'd love to get a deal done by the end of tomorrow.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352

    I'd like to get my payments into the mid 500s with tax in Southern California on a premium 1 E300 RWD. The following is the best deal the dealer is willing to give. In order to get to a $570/month payment with tax, the sale price would have to be reduced to approx. $49500. How likely am I to get 12K off MSRP?

    Deal I've been presented:

    $60,500 MSRP
    $51,950 sale price
    36 months/12K miles
    .00117 MF (thank you Michaell for providing the figures yesterday - it really put me in control of the negotiation)
    59% residual
    $1219 due at signing
    $648 per month with tax

    I believe the dealer is including a acquisition fee of over 1K (in a addition to other standard fees like tax, title, registration), but I didn't pay close enough attention.

    With 10 MSDs, my payment would go down to $579/month with tax but I'd like to avoid dishing out $7600.

    Any thoughts? I'd love to get a deal done by the end of tomorrow.

    Get the adjusted CAP cost with all charges included, and an exact amount due at signing.

    Once you have the numbers and are confident in the information, then tell the dealer what it will take to get your business. While I doubt you can get that deal, I'm proven wrong every day.

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  • yescaryescar Member Posts: 33
    Do you have the August MF and residuals for a 2017 E 300 Sport 4 Matic for 36/15 and 36/12? Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    yescar said:

    Do you have the August MF and residuals for a 2017 E 300 Sport 4 Matic for 36/15 and 36/12? Thanks in advance!

    .00092 and 56% / 58%

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  • yescaryescar Member Posts: 33
    Thank you!!!
  • bbonlysbbonlys Member Posts: 6
    Can I know the September MF and residuals for a 2017 E300 RWD at 36/12? Thank you
  • bbonlysbbonlys Member Posts: 6
    I forgot to put in my previous post, what is the current acquisition cost? A dealer is quoting me 1095, I feel that it's marked up.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352
    bbonlys said:

    Can I know the September MF and residuals for a 2017 E300 RWD at 36/12? Thank you

    .00117 MF and 59% residual

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352
    bbonlys said:

    I forgot to put in my previous post, what is the current acquisition cost? A dealer is quoting me 1095, I feel that it's marked up.

    Base is $795. $300 is the maximum markup

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  • edeazy6565edeazy6565 Member Posts: 17
    edited September 2017
    Can I know the September MF and residuals for a 2017 E300 RWD and AWD? 36/10 and 7.5.. Also for 24/10 and 7.5? Thank you!!!!
  • edeazy6565edeazy6565 Member Posts: 17
    Do you know the new factory incentive for the dealerships for September? Thanks again!!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352

    Can I know the September MF and residuals for a 2017 E300 RWD and AWD? 36/10 and 7.5.. Also for 24/10 and 7.5? Thank you!!!!

    RWD: .00117 MF and 67%/60% residual for 24/36, 10K/yr
    AWD: .00092 MF and 65%/59% residual for 24/36

    Add 1% for 7.5K/yr

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352

    Do you know the new factory incentive for the dealerships for September? Thanks again!!!

    Sorry, we don't.

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  • jsessa55jsessa55 Member Posts: 1
    Please let me know money factor and residual for 2018 e400 convertible. 36 mos, 45k miles. Thank you. 

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,012
    jsessa55 said:

    Please let me know money factor and residual for 2018 e400 convertible. 36 mos, 45k miles. Thank you. 

    The 2018 E-Class lease thread can be found here:

    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/46427/mercedes-benz/e-class/2018-mercedes-e-class-lease-deals-and-prices#latest

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  • schmatschmatschmatschmat Member Posts: 44
    Looking for mf and residual for 2017 e300 4matic. 36/10k, please. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352

    Looking for mf and residual for 2017 e300 4matic. 36/10k, please. Thanks!

    .00080 MF and 59% residual

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  • dave1024dave1024 Member Posts: 36
    Hi,

    Can you give me the residual and money factory for 2017 E300 4-Matic for 36M/10K miles for Pennsylvania?

    Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352
    dave1024 said:

    Hi,

    Can you give me the residual and money factory for 2017 E300 4-Matic for 36M/10K miles for Pennsylvania?

    Thanks.

    .00080 MF and 59% residual

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  • shafeyshafey Member Posts: 13
    Hi. Looking for MF and RV for 2017 E400 wagon.

    10k miles
    24/33/36 months
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 253,352
    shafey said:

    Hi. Looking for MF and RV for 2017 E400 wagon.

    10k miles
    24/33/36 months

    .00102 MF and 64%/61%/59% residual for 24/30/36 months.

    We don't have the 33 month residuals

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