2000 Chevy Silverado Vibration - II

obyone

replacement/upgrading of tires depend on a couple of things...
-is there uneven wear on the tires? if so, dealer needs to realign truck. If that doesn't work and uneven wear continues, GM regional rep needs to approve upgrade and take the Generals in as trade. BTW, they are worth approximately $35.00 (retail) a piece...you can verify this at tirerack.com
-Dealer warrants tires/alignment/balancing up to 10,000 miles. After that you will have to contact General directly. General will usually ship new tires as it is their cheapest route after alignment is verified. If $ 35.00 retail must be somewhere around $25.00 wholesale and who knows how cheap at manufacturer's cost.
-Replacement dealer may take them in as trade, figure depending on mileage and wear to get as much as $100 for a set of four. If the replacement/upgrade tires are on sale, the trade in will be substantially lower.

good luck on whichever you decide. BTW, the changing of the rear springs eliminated my aftershocks...

quadrunner500

'99, LS 1500, Z71, 4x4, 5.3L, 4.10 locker, regular cab, long bed, Firestone Wilderness A/T P265.

25,000 miles, no shakes, no shudders, no-rebalancing, just 2 tire rotations. Great truck so far!

jed1894

Regarding your title: if the vehicle was titled in another state, your State/County tag office may not have the records. It is true that they can tell if it was titled in the state you purchased the truck, but depending the computer system they're using, they may not be able to find old information from another state. Also, depending on your state, the Lemon Laws are different inthat some states don't require disclosure if a consumer returns a truck pursuant to Lemon Law.

I would not let them get away with the unexplained miles on your truck. Matter-of-fact if they signed or presented the odometer affidavit with the wrong miles and they knew it, it's a crime in my state. In turn, you're required to disclose the error when you sell the truck.

Was it shipped from another dealer? If so, your odometer affidavit/title should have had the miles as it sat on the lot.

Another suggestion, call you State's consumer fraud section.

Good luck.... John

kingfishgus

There is some place on the web where you can check the serial numbers of trucks bought back due to lemon laws. I can't seem to find the site, but someone else may have the link. I don't know if this lemon database would include Chevy buybacks because versus lemons only. If you're truck was a demonstrator, it should still reflect the 500 miles, not 27. Don't wait, get on this fast. File with the Better Buisiness Bureau if you have one there. Try talking to the state attourney general's office. Don't let Chevy be the only place you report it to.

rshornsby

I think the site that you want is www.carfax.com.
They have a free lemon, buy back service. All you need is the VIN#.

Hope this helps, Have a nice day

Roger.

chevy4me

With 25k miles have you replaced the air filter? k&n or ac or still original?

quadrunner500

Stock filter remains. I'm waiting on that little, spring loaded pressure gauge on the air box to tell me when it's time. So far, it hasn't moved.

My feeling is a paper filter works great when dirty from the standpoint of trapping particles. The better it works, the more power it robs.

I've used K&N reusable filters on other vehicles, and while I may have noticed a small power boost, I also noted more grime inside my intake manifold. Some have told me that's from too much oil, but if you don't use enough, you don't trap the dirt.

bspoling

Checked the carfax.com site and found that our truck is not listed as a lemon. Contacted the BBB on Monday to file claim and they were very quick to call me back. I thought we had an appt. for a second opinion (sounds like a medical term) but the service manager has been off work due to an accident so they didn't have the manpower to check on our vibration/after shock problem this week. This dealer gave me the name of another dealer to check with. After finding out that the appt. had been cancelled, I left a message with the BBB that I was not planning to go from dealer to dealer to find a fix for this truck and that the original dealer should be responsible for fixing the problem. We recorded the no. from the set of tires that we have now (Wrangler ST). I mentioned to the BBB that the correct miles were not reported on the odometer statement. They plan to contact the dealer. Meanwhile, we sold our dependable 1989 Chevy Extended Cab yesterday and may be sorry. Thanks to all for helping with this.

kansan

I'm glad to hear that after 10000 miles you still don't have any vibrations or steering wheel shimmy. I'm still trying to get my steering vibration/shimmy problem fixed. Had GY Wrangler STs replaced back in Feb. with new Wrangler STs with a date code of 129. Fixed problem for about 1000 miles but then shimmy came back. Took to a different dealer to get fixed on Monday, and they rebalanced and rotated tires, but said they could not replace tires because the 129 date code was after the date they fixed the specification on the Wrangler tires. I picked it up last night and it still shimmys as bad as it did when I took it in to them. You said that when you talked to GY and GM, the date of the fix was about October 1, 1999, which would be some time after the 40th week, and that tires with a date code of 459 (the 45th week of 1999) fixed your problem. Since the dealership I go to is claiming that date code "129" is a good date code, could you relay your dealers name and phone number and any other info. you have that could help me clear up the date code issue with my dealer.
Thanks,
Ken

crunk1

My 2000 Silverado has already had the shift points
re-calibrated. Truck used two qts. first oil
change and is currently using 1 qt. per 1000 miles. Shudder while pulling a horse trailer is
bad. Service manager said mine is the worst that he has seen. He also told me that in jan of 2000 that GM started putting 2500 frames under the 1500s and that no problems with shudders since this change. Has anyone else been told this???When I bought my 2000 I ask the salesman specifically if the shudder had been remedied. Guess what---He said yes. The service manager is working with me but I am putting more miles on my truck driving to the dealership than in use. I love the truck but-----

jed1894

Get rid of that truck! If it's using that much oil and all the other stuff, you should give it back. You didn't state how many miles you have. What is it?

Haven't heard about the 2500 frame issue, but it makes good sense to me.

John

jmb106

there is no way that in jan 00 that they started putting 2500 frames under 1500's. I have a 1500 made in march 00 and it does not have a 2500 under it! I know this because last week I went to the dealer to look at the difference between the 2500 frame and my 1500 frame. The 2500 frame is much deeper from the rear axle forward.The service manager is giving you a line of ----! If he's telling the truth I want a 2500 frame under my 1500 give me his name & # so I can get one under warranty!

ovalley

I checked the distance between the top of the rear tire and the bottom of the fender. Did this with my "high tech" coffee cup while I was waiting on the service dept to look at mine. I checked mine when they brought my truck back with the typical "they all look like that". Mine sits about 2" lower than the new ones.

Did you get your springs replaced under a TSB or did your dealer just do it out of the goodness of their hearts? I am going back next week, they were short handed today. They didn't even write up my complaint on the service order. Any more info you could give me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

obyone

amazingly, the tech looked at the work order, looked at the truck, and ordered the springs. He told me that the truck should not be sitting level when empty and the right rear springs were sagging. No TSB involved at all. I had the complaint written up as truck bottoming out when going over speed bumps with no load.

To verify the aftershocks, some of the techs got in the back and they drove over a speed bump. It was verified by all four of them that the truck bottoms out and shakes (aftershocks). Perhaps a bit unusual but it worked in my case. Actually, I think they used my truck to go to lunch.

hknoepfle

I have 1600 miles on my 2000 extcab 2500. I ordered my truck and put together a nice hauler for my boat. My deep carmin red pu has the 6.o, hd suspension, 4:10 rear. I am experiencing absolutely no vibrations at any speed - with or without a load. I love this truck. My question for you truck guys - when I change oil, I put in the six quarts and it is below the top on the stick indicator. Is the fact that I have an oil cooler taking away some of my six quarts. Should I assume it is and top up??

obyone

If the manual calls for 6 quarts...that's what I use. Plus you don't really know how accurate the dipstick is.

rayt2

The dipsticks have a range on them thus the hash marks, if manufacturer states 6 quarts that's all it takes, make a note after first oil change as to where the oil reads on dipstick after change and that is your full point.
From what I have seen on my Y2K 2500 w/5.3L the full line is in the middle of the hash marks on dip stick.

As for vibrations......2700 miles and flawless operation/ride, first oil change to be done @3000 miles........

Ray T.

sgoodin

I have the 1999 1500 Sierra 2 wheel drive standard cab. The dealer has replaced the tires 3 times and balanced each set several times. No change in the highway speed vibration. Today the factory rep drove the truck and stated on his report that he did not detect any UNUSUAL vibration and denied a factory buy-back. He suggested the BBB. He stated that GM will comply with arbitration. Any thoughts on this?

sgoodin

I have the 1999 1500 Sierra 2 wheel drive standard cab. The dealer has replaced the tires 3 times and balanced each set several times. No change in the highway speed vibration. Today the factory rep drove the truck and stated on his report that he did not detect any UNUSUAL vibration and denied a factory buy-back. He suggested the BBB. He stated that GM will comply with arbitration. Any thoughts on this?
Steve

ovalley

Can you (or anyone else out there with a 2wd ext cab) measure the distance between the top of the rear tire and the bottom of the fender above the tire on your truck? I wanted to know it the new truck leaf springs have settled. Mine are about 2 inches lower than the new ones. Thanks.

obyone

5". But I'm running 275/70R16.

kansan

Were your tires Goodyear Wrangler STs, and if they were, did you get the date codes for them? If you got the dates codes, I'd be interested to know what they were. "Espdixie" got some with a date code of 459, (45th week of 1999), and they cured his vibratrion problem. Hopefully if you get the later date codes (459 and later) the problem may be corrected. They are still putting Wrangler STs on the new 2-wd Sierras and Silverados, so they must be confident that the new ones are OK. My Silverado was made 8/31/99, and it developed the vibration, and they replaced tires with Wrangler STs with a date code of 129. This fixed the problem for about 1000 miles, but then the vibrations and steering wheel shimmy came back. Went to Goodyear yesterday, and they are going to replace again. I requested a later date code, and they said the ones they receive should be a later date code. When they ordered them I heard the dealer say it was for the GM recall, so he was well aware of the problem. As was the Goodyear warehouse in Akron, Ohio. It was kind of funny, there was another guy at the Goodyear store, and he's gone through 5 sets of tires, and he still has the vibration problems. He was not aware of the dates codes, and the latest set he put on were Wrangler RT/S tires. He thought his problem was the steel wheels. Do you have the steel wheels? Mine has the steel wheels, and jed1894 has the steel wheels, and actually had one replaced because it was out of round or bent. Replacing the bent rim and/or putting Generals on cured jed1894s problem. I think mine is a tire problem, because the replacement set cured the probelm for a while.

jed1894

You have every right to vent. Afterall, you're exactly right. The service end of GM has taken a nose dive. Unless it's absolutely necessary, I'm not taking my truck to a GM dealer for repair. There's no way the current techs can remotely work on the state-of-the-art computer driven vehicles being released now. If you take a look at some of the rural (small) dealers you'll know what I mean. Some of the people there aren't able to tell time, let alone read a computer screen.

Unless you have a friend at a dealership that's been properly trained, I wouldn't trust any of them.

I guess you can tell I had very bad luck with GM factory people......see ya John

g8tr

I had a '99 Sierra SL reg cab w/4.8, auto., 3.42 and it shook like crazy. I also had tires replaced 3-5 times (Generals), run out tests, shackles and bushings replaced. Nothing worked except arbitration. I went through BBB and got most of my $ back (all except $2000 because of mileage). Don't put up with this mess. Get a copy of your state's Lemon Law and see what your options are. Yes the new GM trucks are pretty but what good does that do anyone when they shake your teeth out.

And I agree with jed1894. Unless the computer tells the techs exactly what to do, they don't have a clue. My Sierra used to ping like it was going out of style but the computer said everything was fine. I know that the manual says that some light ping is normal (although I've never had a car/truck ping when brand new) but the point is that something was wrong but they couldn't find it if they had to use both hands.

If you get tired enough of the shaking, you'll get rid of the truck. Nothing is worse than driving something that you've spent your hard earned $ on and it is a piece of junk. Good luck.

obyone

Do you know of any good front end shops? You may want to take your truck there. If they cannot solve the problem, they may be able to give you insight to what the source of the problem may be and that would help you in a buyback case. Either way, it's like getting a second opinion and can't hurt. On the rough idle, the Hypertech unit took away mine. Although I don't believe anyone should have to pay $300 for an aftermarket product to solve GM's problems, it does seem to work. I was advised of this by the tech working on my truck when we went on a test drive. He says its frustrating to work on vehicles which defy all logic. Simply stated, vibrations are ususally caused by wheels, tires. By balancing the tires, the vibrations on most cars/trucks would go away. Not in the case of the Silverado...so GM in conjunction with another company has developed a vibration analyzer. Supposedly, sensors are placed on the vehicle in question and by process of elimination eventually get to the source of the vibration. My dealer says its on back order. I called the company that sells this unit, they gave me a price and told me 3-4 days UPS delivery. Went back to dealer and told him to get his story straight and now waiting for this analyzer to arrive. The unit is called the EVA2. Does your dealership have one?

michiganjake

My 2000 Siverado V-6 vibrated terribly especially going uphill at 40 MPH os so. Sounded like a Cessna. Dealer put two "dampeners" on exhaust pipe which only decreased vibration and associated noise somewhat. Dealer now says that the problem does not meet the buyback criteria whatever they are. Has anyone had success in getting GM to buy back these lemons? If so, will you please tell me how to go about it? Thanks, Jack

djwood289

I've got a 2000 model 1500 that has the launch shudder when I hitch up my travel trailer. The dealer is telling me that they are only fixing the ones that exhibit the problem when they are not loaded. They say the 2000's already have the updated shackles and springs. Does this sound right? If anyone has the part numbers of what was replaced to fix their 2000 model could you please post them?

jed1894

Obyone reminded me of what I did when I had gone to five (5) different dealers for my vibration problem: I took it to an independent tire/suspension man I trusted. He found the problems (warped rim and bad Goodyear tires) and said he could fix the problem or I wouldn't have to pay. Anyway, he fixed the problem and I demanded GM pay him for service and new tires and rims, which they did through purchase order. I haven't been back to a GM dealer since.

Bottom line.... I found out from the independent tire dealer that GM (dealership) can sub work out to specialist...they do it all the time, especially for tire/front end work.

Ask your dealer/service manager.....if he says no, call GM 800 (what I did for approval). It can be done. If they say it's impossible, let me know and I'll give you my complaint number, dealer, purchase order number, etc.....

Good luck.... John

obyone

there is a TSB out on the 4.3 V6 that vibrates. You can do a search at

www.nhtsa.com

The fix for the vibrating V6 is to R/R the motor. It is true that it doesn't meet buyback as of yet. That is because they haven't R/R the motor. Once they do that and it's not fixed, they have one last opportunity. print the TSB out and take it to the dealer...

brimc1

yes obyone the eva2 was the device that the mechanic put on the truck and said "there are no fault codes so I can't start making adjustments.
I can live with the rough idle,but not the vibration.I drive an estimated 20,000 miles a year.I'm always on the highway and this s-cks!!!
I also contacted gm (not worthy of capital letters)today.I got the usual "we are not aware of any rough idling conditions that exist in that specific style vehicle,especialy with that motor.
They also continued to say that they have had a
couple of vibration problems but they were resolved and were tire rim related problems.B.S.
oh excuse me.The truck goes in for get this, Turning of the rear rotors.I guess we have to start somewhere.I'll keep you all posted.
Yours,Brian.

michiganjake

This is my first US truck so perhaps I'm naive but I just can't believe that, in today's competitive market, GM can produce a truck with vibrations in the exhaust system that can be felt all the way up through the accelerator and then just tell us, in effect, to "live with it." How about a class-action lawsuit? Any lawyers out there?

molly25

I am getting ready to make the jump from SUV to truck. I have compared the F-150, Dodge Ram, and Chevy Silverado and am leaning toward the Silverado. However, all of these messages about incurable vibrations and wind noise concern me. Are these problems unique to Chevy, or are they typical for any full-size truck?

What about extended service warranties? I always declined them before when purchasing a Honda and Jeep, but maybe it will be a good way to hedge my bet on getting a lemon. What do you think?

obyone

The vibrations seem to be limited to pre 12/99 production Silverados. In other words, the trucks in production now do not share our problems...apparently GM has been quietly fixing the problems at the production line without telling anyone so as to save money on warranty issues.

Extended warranties have always been a bad buy. If it wasn't, the dealer wouldn't be pushing em.

brimc1

The productin date on my truck is 02/00 and I have
the vibration problem.It feels like the tires are way out of balance but they have been balanced by three different shops.The last one was a specialty shop that balanced them on the truck. Yours,Brian.

quadrunner500

Have to agree with Brimc1. Mine IS pre 12/99.
Made 8/99. Has never had a problem with vibrations. I think more trucks with the rack and pinion steering box have the problem, ie 2wd trucks. Just my $0.02

rimartinez

I have a 99 ext.cab 5.3 with the same problems that everyone else has. My truck has been to 4 different dealerships and they have tried 5 different set of tires and 3 sets of rims (Chrome). Finally I took it to another Chevy dealership where a friend of mine works, and they rebalanced the tires: LR was 10 oz. off, and RR was 6 oz. off (after being balanced at the other dealerships). They also replaced the Power steering gear assembly, rack bolts and nuts, and installed roll pins into rack bushings (reading off work order). Problem solved. Truck rides smooth and no vibration or aftershock anymore. Don't know if this will help anyone, but I thought I'd put it out here.

Richard

michiganjake

My truck was built in January 2000 and has severe vibrations in the exhaust system. So GM has done litle or nothing to cure the 1999 problem. Dealer says the problem is peculiar to the V-6 but "does not meet buyback criteria." They have bolted "dampeners" on the exhaust pipe that diminished but did not eliminate the noise and vibration. I would not recommend GM or the Silverado to anyone.

jed1894

Sounds like good news....glad to here someone got some good service....hope it will last.

Got a couple of questions:

1. Did your steering wheel have a jerk while driving (shake back and forth).

2. Was it very sensitive to the road...and does it still ride the same.

3. If possible, can you post the dealership and location that performed the work.

Here's the reason I'm asking..... When I was going to every dealer in the state attempting to fix my vibration problem, the last service guy said that GM was coming out with some type of bushing replacment for the front end....sounds like something you got.

I'm also hoping that the work you had done may cure the senstivity problem. My truck still reacts to every tiny bump, etc. in the road. It's a definite sensitivity problem probably related to the power steering system or front end bushings.

Thanks for information...... John

brimc1

Are we talking about a exhaust vibration? Or are we talking about a shake/vibration while driving over 40mph? Brian.

obyone

My last couple of posts were directed at michiganjake who has the V-6...and "exhaust vibrations"

last_gm_truck

I guess I am an idiot. I researched and drove every truck before I bought. I was under the impression that this vibration problem existed in trucks made before 2000.
I bought a 2000 Silverado Z71 w/5300 (built in 02/2000) and it vibrates like crazy. It starts at about 45 mph and feels like a vibration/rumble in the steering wheel. It is so bad that the dashboard even vibrates and rattles. The vibration seems to fade out and come back at around 55 and 62 mph. I guess I made a big mistake by taking my test drives in the city. I can't believe that GM could build such a piece of junk. I have it in for service today for the vibration and rough idle. I have never seen a new vehicle that at times can idle this rough. When you pay 30+k for a truck you shouldn't have problems like this. From what I am reading here it looks like GM has a real problem with the Silverado. To think I traded in a 97 Expedition that I loved and never had a problem with for this.......

obyone

dealer tech...he said sounds logical...got to get approval before experimenting since dealer has to eat labor if vibrations still remain.

tapd

The vib should be your tire/wheel assembly.
Find out if your Chev dlr or one in the area has a FORCE VARIATION tire balancer. Hunter builds one. It measures the variation of force in the tire and wheel separately, and can then OEM match the tire and wheel. It will also reject a tire and or wheel if the force variation is too far off. Should be less than 25lbs for pass tires, around 32 for LT (6+ ply).
I put on new B/S Dueler HP and had vibration in the steering wheel, the GDY's had none. After this was done the the steering wheel was still.

rimartinez

To answer your questions:
1. I had the same vibration that everyone else had: steering wheel would vibrate between 60-65 mph. Also had the aftershock after the truck would hit every little bump.

2.My truck was and still is sensitive to any bumps in the road (although not as bad as before). Still have a bit of an aftershock, but only on very rough roads.

3. The dealership that did the work was:
Landmark Chevrolet
Houston, TX
I wouldn't buy a vehicle from them, but the service department is very good. Hope this helps.

Richard

rimartinez

To answer your questions:
1. I had the same vibration that everyone else had: steering wheel would vibrate between 60-65 mph. Also had the aftershock after the truck would hit every little bump.

2.My truck was and still is sensitive to any bumps in the road (although not as bad as before). Still have a bit of an aftershock, but only on very rough roads.

3. The dealership that did the work was:
Landmark Chevrolet
Houston, TX
I wouldn't buy a vehicle from them, but the service department is very good. Hope this helps.

Richard

rcoos

My truck went into the shop this week to fix the noise coming from the dash. GM has a service bulliten (#C2564) on this problem. The LH upper dash vent rubs (plastic on metal) somewhere in the middle of the dash & make noise everytime you touch the brake or gas pedals. GM has installed a small rubber strip to stop this problem.

I have put 200 miles on my truck since the work was done & the noise has stopped. I was told that all trucks built since 05/01/00 have had this rubber strip installed at the factory.

I hope this helps anyone with this most annoying problem. As far as any vibrations or shutters, I have been very lucky! My truck runs & rides great! I have a '00 X/C (4dr) 4WD Z71 w/ 5.3 & 3.73 locking rear axle. I have the P265 Firestones on the truck. The only thing that I have changed on my truck was to replace the Z71 Tennenco shocks with Edelbrock IAS Shocks.
rcoos

jed1894

What part of the dash did the noise come from?...I used to have a noise from the passenger side dash, but it stopped on its own........gave it a good SLAP one day when truck was vibrating (before fix).

Thanks John

redsilverado

glad to hear that you're confident with
Hallowell. that's where i'm going this week as
well. although i bought my 4dr. from Michael( got
the best price by $900.00) i can't say much for
their service department. was told to bring my
truck in for them to replace intermediate shaft
in steering column. after leaving it all day,
they called me and said that there was nothing
wrong with but, it's better than it was. Huh?
anyway, having known Beverly over at Hallowell
for the past few years, she said to go ahead and
bring it in. they also seem to know that there is
a problem with some of steering shafts and they
are also going to check for a couple of other
things that i might not even be aware of. now
that's what you call service. don't have to tell
you where i'm buying my next truck.

...red

molly25

I test drove 2 different 2000 Silverado 1500s ext cab from 2 different dealers. The first dealer denied any knowledge of vibration complaints, and the second dealer said that the vibrations only occur in about 10% of the trucks.

Results: Truck from dealer 1 vibrated slightly when going faster than 55 mph, with constant vibration at about 65-70 mph. I kept this truck over Friday night. A friend who owns a 1998 Ford F-150 ext cab 4WD rode in it and said that he could feel the vibration, but it was normal for any truck. I called dealer 1 and left a message that the truck vibrated, and I was bringing it back Saturday. When I returned, the dealer said that another salesman just told him about the problem, and Chevy found the solution - changing the grease in the rear axle cures all vibration. He said they would call me Monday after the change.

Truck from dealer 2 vibrated a lot at 55-70 mph, and I returned it immediately. The dealer said that he would test drive others when they come in, and he would call me if they get in any that don't vibrate.

I really liked the truck, except for the vibration. I am inclined to pass on this year, wait until the problem is resolved, or go with Ford.

Has anyone had a successful resolution to the vibration problem? Rear axle grease?

jed1894

LOL.......If changing the grease in rear axle fixed "all" vibrations, it would be the miracle of the century. Ask the service man who a GM said that was the case. It's unbelievable that a GM employee told you that. That statement would have been nice to have on tape. Call his bluff....tell him you want some kind of assurance and would like to talk to the GM rep about the axle grease. Better yet, call the 800 and ask about the grease. Bet you'll get another cure all from them.

However......hope the grease works for your truck.