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Get it!
Thanks for the moral support. This would be far and away the most expensive, luxurious car I've ever purchased, and yes, at my advanced age I've earned it!
I live in Lexington, Kentucky. This particular dealership where I saw the coupe is just down the road in Richmond. Coupes haven't arrived at our Lexington dealership yet.
"Our only complaints with the Accord cabin were minor: The lumbar support on all front seats (regardless of power or upholstery) is stout and we occasionally wished for less of it;"
I think I can live with it but wanted some comments from others who have taken the drive.
Somebody else had a complaint about this. See post 2807:
stickguy, "2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan" #2807, 17 Sep 2007 8:55 am
When I first got my '04 sedan, it bothered me. It just felt way too aggressive, to where my upper back wasn't even in contact with the upper seat very much -- in other words, the lumbar support was pushing me out too far in the seat. So, I compensated by hanging a small seat cushion (about an inch or so thick, made to go on a wooden chair bottom) from the headrest so it dropped down and filled in the upper back support that the aggressive lumbar support was denying me. Does that make sense? Harder to describe than show. Since I couldn't dial back the lumbar support, I was adding to the upper back support, to reshape the seat to my preference.
Anyway, I liked that for a long time -- my whole back, upper and lower, was now in contact with the seat. However, I recently decided to do away with the added cushion and just give it a try the way the Honda seat engineers planned it, and I've adjusted to that now, though it's still not ideal.
Bottom line for me is -- I think Accord seats do have a little more aggressive lumbar support that other cars I've been in and I'm not totally happy with it, but it's far from a deal breaker. And, it is better for your back on long trips than having no lumbar support at all, like my '96 Regal.
The '08 EX-L V6 I'm looking at, of course, has adjustable lumbar, and when it's all the way back in, it feels about right for me.
I'm rambling, I know, but maybe my experience will help you decide about this. To me, the seat is critical. If I can't get comfortable in it, then the car is off my list.
I did some research on this at collegehillshonda.com which had the accessory only listed as available for the sedan.
They posted the sedan install instructions:
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/instructions/8thgenaccsedan/rearcamera.pdf
According to that, the camera is installed just above the license plate on the trunk lid in the sedan as shown here:
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/storeart/8thgenaccsedan/backupcamera.jpg
It also requires a hole to be cut in the license plate trim which is detached from the trunk lid while the hole is cut.
The coupe license plate however is located in the bumper and not the trunk lid. Thus this would require a completely different install method and I don't know how difficult it would be to cut the mounting hole in the bumper.
This may be a reason why this is not yet offered on the coupe.
The back-up sensor kit is offered for both the coupe and the sedan however.
In both models, 4 holes are cut into the bumper face to place the sensors.
- slower shifting 5 speed (> 5 years old) vs new 6 speed (with quirks now worked out)
- timing belt (worse kind, where a snapped belt would damage the engine) vs timing chain.
- same power output fine, but needs VCM to get the same mileage.
Honda needs to address these glaring weak points for two cars supposedly very competitive.
The 4-cyl was not as peppy as I imagined it would be, but there was certainly plenty of power available.
Interior controls were easy to learn, and all felt high-quality. Legroom was great in all seats. I'm 5'10".
I look forward to real-world mileage reports coming in...
Ready - Fire - Aim
Coupe review
Probably be a good idea.
Probably not old enough to get a license.
...IMHO sort of a mixed revue - - - in that the V-6 6M is described as a 1st/2nd gear rocket. Then comes the cautionary statement about clutch and throttle. I'm looking for the improved clutch action mentioned by Matt DeLorenzo in R & T 11/2007....
I reckon a test drive will tell.
best, ez....
Does anyone know of others places to look?
:shades:
Mackabee
So the timing belt needs changing once every 105k miles.
Well, if you dare waiting that long, you will be buying maybe another Accord (and maybe that's what you want anyway
And of course the interior and exterior are both better on the Accord
Well, not really, to me. But leave subjective things to each of their own. To me the biggest reason to choose Accord over Camry (or the other way around for different people) is the driving dynamics. Some like it sporty, some like it luxury. None is "better", just different taste.
60k was 15 years ago. The "recommended" interval is now 105k miles. Where have you been? Shows just how much you know about the present Accords (not much). I will be changing the belt myself (mechanically inclined people love Accords), so it won't cost much.
With the timing belt issue, it seems like missing a forest while looking for a tree. While I wouldn't mind saving $400-500 or so every 90-100K miles, but in the overall scheme of things, people end up spending a lot more elsewhere as a part of ownership experience.
http://research.cars.com/go/crp/research.jsp?section=summary&crpPage=summary.jsp- &makeid=18&modelid=212&year=2008&myid=&acode=&mode=&aff=national
Thank you for the link. I really appreciate it. I wonder why NADA, KBB, etc. don't have them up yet. Thanks again.
David
The price I believe was good too. Can I talk about the price?
They will do anything to sell
Lake County, IL
Your statement conflicts with what Honda says:
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/812/releases/4107
Center Console
The center console offers storage including a covered forward box, a covered two-level console with armrest, and new covered holders that accommodate two large cups. The console is nearly three inches wider than that of the previous generation Accord to ensure more storage space for personal belongings. A new spring system improves the operating feel of the cover, which doubles as the center armrest. In addition, the console offers 5.4 liters of storage space (up from 5.2 liters in the previous-generation Accord) and can now store 22 CDs (up from 20 CDs). The armrest slides fore/aft nearly a half inch more for improved comfort for drivers of different heights.
I haven't paid attention to the cupholders yet; the ones in the previous model were models of perfection as far as I can tell. Why mess with it?!?
Didn't it state that it was half an inch more, not half an inch total? I like the wider armrest, no more bumping elbows. Not enough reason to trade my 03, but it sounds like a good thing.
I haven't paid attention to the cupholders yet; the ones in the previous model were models of perfection as far as I can tell. Why mess with it?!?
I do agree that the previous cupholders were great (fit any size cup or bottle).
....I look forward to real time reports on how the VCM extends the V-6 fuel efficiency............(despite the lower - higher numerical - final drive ratio)......
Plus Road and Track (11/2007 issue) reports the 2008 6M clutch takeup as "progressive"........... That sounds like improvement to me.
Great cars. Sounds like the engineering is just getting better.
....best, ez....
I haven't taken this out for a drive yet( it is comin' though) but the back seat I would compare the Bimmer 5 series and the Mercedes E class for space and comfort. One concern that I have is the rear headrests; in the centre of the headrest is a bolt(?) almost dead centre, in an emergency stop or rearender I would think the passengers heads in the back seat would have their noggin driven into this bolt.
The trunck space is a little small, I believe that they could have done better, and the rear seats when folded have the space compromised by the structural members.
Otherwise, I like it so far.