2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan

eldaino

i can't remember how much an exl 4 cyl was on the previous gen, but 28k seemed kinda steep to me. But boy did they look sharp!

it was interesting to note that the lx-p is bascially like the old se trim: rear discs, alloy wheels, body colored everything etc. It does lack the 6 disc changer and carbon fiber trim, but for all the safety features you get, plus the added hp and equal fuel economy, i wouldn't be suprised if this became the most popular trim.

They still had an 07 se on the lot. Now would be the time to get a great deal on an older accord!

maddog11

If the MSRP was 28K it had to have the $2200 Navigation system on it.

jam1000

Austinman7 -- I don't know; the car did not have the sticker on the windshield yet; it must have just arrived on the lot. It had cloth seats if that gives you any information.

austinman7

jam1000,

Well, I checked the specs and the 177 hp comes in the LX and LX-P while the EX gets the 190 hp. But...all three models have cloth seats, so it's still a mystery as to which one you were driving.

I was impressed with your comment that the power was good, considering the car weighs a little more than the last generation.

Thanks for your follow up.

wayne21

Honda's tranny problems are not limited to the Odyssey. They've had tranny problems for years and have had class actions suits over their trannys. We have a 2000 LE with 85k miles and is ready for its third tranny. (Our car looks like new and all maintenance has been done. We have the tranny flushed every 30k miles using Honda fluid.) When we got the tranny replaced we were number 11 in line and the dealer kept the car for 17 days (we did get a loaner). If you google: honda transmission problems - you will get more than 2 million hits and see honda has had this problem for years and the problems persist with 2007 models. You might also google: toyota engine sludge - and find they have their dirty little secret, too.

edp6

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Top of the line Accord beats the top of the sports edition Camry by a nose or two.

I would be interested in seeing how the LX 4 cylinder AT Accord does vs. the LE 4 cylinder AT Camry

edp6

"Honda's tranny problems are not limited to the Odyssey. They've had tranny problems for years and have had class actions suits over their trannys. We have a 2000 LE with 85k miles and is ready for its third tranny. "

When we had the tranny in our 02 Odyssey replaced the service guy said that it was a redesigned stronger transmission. Anyone know if that is true ? Or do they keep putting the same old piece of junk designed tranmissions back in as the replacements ?

What other Honda's had tranmission issues ? and recalls ?

volvowner

I'm going from memory, but I thought the Odyssey transmission was modified as part of the '02 redesign, and there was a lower incidence rate after that. My '02 is over 90K miles w/no problems.

My '03 Accord hasn't had any problems either, at 80K. (had to throw that in to keep on track in this forum :P )

edp6

My 02 Odyssey's transmission didn't die until 80K miles. . .the new one seems great.

amir

hi.actully i dont agree with u regarding the interior praise of the accord that u say its good. if u get a chance sit in a 7th gen accord lx.u will c a lot of details in finishing which u will miss in 08 lx and lxp.for example door trim is all hard plastic except padding for elbow area.and the trunk lid has no carpeting even in exl. and u shouldnt compare domestic to honda.u should compare it to altima,and camry. it has to b better than domestic otherwise why would we even have japenese in america anyway.German cars were No1 in the days and american were good alternative in reasonable price so Japanese had to be in between.

wayne21

If you do the google search on honda tranny problems you will find people unhappy with their replacement trannies. We were told the same thing, but when we got our car we immediately noticed it clunked like the first one. We also noticed that it was a five speed as opposed to our four speed. The dealer assured us they were the same and that it was basically our imagination. RIGHT! With the new tranny we got better mileage because the car cruised about 300 rpm less than the original tranny. This has resulted in a lot more shifting and has made the cruise control useless on the interstate as the car shifts at the slightest hill. So we now have a transmission that clunks as much as the first one, gets better mileage, and shifts all the time because it doesn't have enough power for a five speed transmission.

bluebmx

I looked at the table listing spec of LX and LX-P and only noticed that LX doesn't have a One Touch Power Window and all others specs seem to be same as LX-P. Did I miss sth?

jaxs1

You can just put it in 4th if you need to drive on an incline or just use 4th all the time if you don't like 5th.
BTW, the Odyssey has had a 5-speed automatic since the 2002 model.

oarsdad

As I understand it, for $1000 the LX-P adds:

1. Alloy wheels
2. Security system
3. Chrome exhaust tips
4. Power driver seat
5. Auto up/down on driver & front pax windows
6. Illuminated power window switches?

I'm not so sure about #6. The Honda website says only EX models have it, but the 2008 Accord brochure shows it on the LX-P.

bluebmx

Thanks a lot for info.

I just read on honda's site. It says that LX's suspension is different from LX-P's. The LX-P uses independent type (??).

rich123

I drove the LX-P 177hp 4cyl automatic last Sunday. Very nice. The sales person was clueless about the security system. Does anyone know how robust it is? Is there a flashing light on the dash and does it have proximty or bump sensitivity?

thegraduate

If its like the system in the current (2007) Accords, it isn't "bump" sensitive. It goes off if the door is unlocked without the key (as when a window is down and you reach in and unlock it, or if the car is cranked with the alarm still armed).

Push the panic button on the key fob to see what the alarm will do. It does the same exact thing (horn honks, head and taillamps flash).

robertsmx

The suspension etc is same. They largely differ on features. LX-P adds/upgrades (as mentioned earlier):
- Alloy wheels (LX has plastic covers)
- Alarm system (but both have immobilizer)
- Chrome exhaust finisher
- Power windows are standard but LX-P gets auto-Up/Down for driver and front passenger, while LX has auto-down feature only for driver
- 8-way power seat (LX has manual adjustment)

eldaino

i have sat in one. to me, the only ones that are nicer than the lx-p (or as nice) would be the se or ex. the lx trims didn't even have rear discs, but as far as interior quality goes, the 7th gen lx was def a step down from the same gen's ex and se trims.

what difference does it make that the plastic is a little harder this time around? the soft touch surfaces are where they need to be, and its a hellava car for the money.

eldaino

thanks robertsmx, your are like a brochure man!

accordguy1

Can folks please stop asking "what is the difference between X and Y blah blah blah". You can go to www.honda.com click on specifications and READ the differences! Let's make this forum more interesting, right now it's like reading "what came first the chicken or the egg?" or "who's on first" or "if a tree falls down in deserted forest, does it make noise even if nobody hears it?"

eldaino

you replied to me...are you insinuating that i'm asking these questions? because i haven't been. I was just pointing out how robertsmx knows his stuff!

can people stop being so presumptious?

jack47

what came first the chicken or the egg?"

The chicken and egg were lying in bed after a little love making. The chicken leans back and lights up a cigarette.

The egg, disgruntled and frustrated, looks at the chicken and says..."well, that settles who came first".

bluebmx

Isn't this a 08 Accord forum? If you think that question is a noise to you, I have same feeling with your previous post like "Can I ask why you're trading such a new car in?"

Remember this forum is belong to every member.

accordguy1

woooo reading up on my old posts, big man on campus are you? stalker?

btw that chicken/egg joke was great, that's the kinda talk i'm talking about!

eldaino

ha HA HA!

0hms

The dealers I've spoken to say that it comes out first week of October. Anyone heard something different?

eldaino

btw that chicken/egg joke was great, that's the kinda talk i'm talking about!

i thought you wanted to talk more about cars.

accordguy1

here's a good one:

jessica alba is playing in foursome and has a long birdie putt, she say's "i've never had a birdie, i'll sleep with someone who helps me make it"

1st guy says aim it a little right
2nd guy says hit it hard btw i'm hard too

3rd guy says "ITS A GIMME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT, LET'S GO BABE"

pat

There's a joke topic over on the Off-Topic Chatter board so those of you who want to tell jokes can head over there. You need to keep it clean, though...

Back to the Accord.

mplshondadlr

It seems here in the Twin Cities there isn't much of a "buzz" about the '08 Accords.

Could it be people are leary about the price or the size?

Thoughts?

oarsdad

I'm sure some don't like the larger size, we here that on this forum regularly. Then there are people like myself for which it's growth is a plus(4th child due in Jan.). The Accord's larger size is a significant "pro" over the Camry and Altima in my decision process.

As for price, I'm just waiting until I can purchase one for about $500 over invoice.

ezshift5

....just waiting until I can purchase one for about $500 over invoice.

....nabbing a 6M coupe at 1300 under dealer cost has ruined me for now.........(plus no VCM with 6M)...

...we be laying in the weeds for a spell......

best, ez..

austinman7

After eight days on the market, the sticker price barrier on the '08 Accord has been broken through, at least in my area. My salesperson offered to sell me one below sticker this evening, and she was unsolicited. They're getting them in in fairly significant numbers -- must have had 15 or so in stock -- and they already seem a little anxious to move them, especially as they have a bunch of '07s to move at the same time. Lots of EX 4 cylinders -- this seems to be the emphasis, as opposed to the LX, which used to be Accord's bread-and-butter.

Stopped by after work and drove an EX-L V6, Bold Beige, ivory interior. The VCM seemed to be seamless, but with the distraction of a salesperson in the car, I don't know how sure I could be. Power seemed adequate, but I didn't really push it. I think it's a very handsome, stylish car from the outside. Inside, it's fine, though the dash may be a little overdone for my taste, but not a deal breaker by any means.

My overall impression is of driving a larger, more substantial car than my '04 Accord. Of course, the tradeoff is a little less connection with the driving experience, in my opinion. It still seems better connected than the current Camry. It's now much more like a family sedan to me than a semi-sporty sedan, which it used to be at one time.

Seats are ultra comfortable to me.

jaxs1

Most people don't even know this 2008s are out yet. They haven't started widespread advertising and probably won't bother until there are less 2007s to sell.

mplshondadlr

According to Honda, they are going to spend more money on the "launch" of this car then they ever have do so before.

Think about, everytime you click MSN, Yahoo!, edmunds, KBB and anyother auto related web-site, the 2008 is featured in a tag box.

I've seen ad's for it during prime-time TV. They are trying to get the word out.

It's something else... I don't yet know what it is that hasn't attracted the buyer's yet.

I for one, love the new look and feel. And an LX-P sedan seems like an affordable sedan. I know the tide will turn soon.

95030

mplshondadlr,

Out here they're using the Electric Light Orchestra song "Hold on Tight to Your Dreams" in TV ads for the '08's.

Yep, Honda's motto "The Power of Dreams"... I get it.

Let's see, they could use the Everly Brothers' "All I Have to do is Dream" or "Dreamweaver" by that group I can't remember, or even Jim Croce's "Dreamin' Again".

In the sixties Honda sold a 305cc Dream motorcycle. Recently Honda offered a 50cc racer, called you-know-what.

Capitol Honda of San Jose parked an '08 EX in front of a brand new Costco big-box and added $4K ADM to the MSRP. Hey, that's $28.5 for an I4 Accord !

What a nightmare.

godeacs

Have you not been watching TV lately? Honda's been running ads on the new Accords on a regular basis in the evenings.

robertsmx

At one point LX used to account for half of Accord's sale. But I think with 1998+ generation, EX has gained popularity. Honda must have been selling more of those to the extent that they believe 50% of total Accord sales will be EX/EX-L trim. And I think LX-P is an incredible deal as well. At "normal" prices, it could potentially be had for $21K or so.

colloquor

I've seen TV ads all over the place on the new 2008. One of our local dealers has eight 2008's in stock, including a couple of EX-L V6's. This dealer has at least twelve of the 2007's too. Overall, I like the car, but would prefer a less "busy" dash, especially for the HVAC controls. I guess I'm from the KISS theory of design (Keep It Simple, Stupid). I'd rather just have three separate knobs controlling all three HVAC functions, fan, distribution, and heat/cool.

Interestingly, when I was at the dealer last night just looking, more people were looking at the 2007's than the new ones.

One comment on an earlier poster's statement regarding automatic transmissions . . . I've never had a automatic transmission failure at anything less than 160K miles. I would be extremely upset with any vehicle if I had a failure at less than 100K miles. With proper preventive maintenance, and proper driving techniques, an auto transmission should easily reach at least the 100K mark, anything less is simply unacceptable regardless of the make of car.

stickguy

not surprised that lot's of people are in shopping the '07s. Now is the time to pick up a killer deal on a leftover, since once they are gone, they aren't making any more!

Plus, you have the people that think the '08 is too big, and want to get the "midsize" model before they are gone.

But mostly people trying to save some money!

I still haven't seen an ad, or one on the road. Just the bunch at the dealers.

one day I will stop in and drive one, not that there is any chance I will be upgrading soon. Maybe the next time I am waiting in the service department!

blufz1

Thanks for info on the automatic trans. I'm at 84k on my 02v6 and certainly hope it will go 160k. I have managed the number of miles I drive down to maximize the life of the trans/car.

bvdj84

I am holding off, before I get the 08 accord. My 06 accord, is still too new, still smells and looks like new. I am going to wait til the mileage gets closer on my lease. Then I will start investigating full force on getting an 08 EX-L 4cyl. I love the 08, but certainly not going to throw away my money, just because its new. I'll wait, and it'll be much better with time. Also, let some of the new owner put some miles on them, and see what happens.

I have yet seen any 08's on the road yet.

edp6

I just got an email from Norm Reeves Honda in Cerritos, CA saying they have 400 08's and 200 07's in stock. That's a lot of cars.

elroy5

400?? I find that hard to believe. The local Honda dealer has 3 08 Accords (1 V6 in the showroom, and two I4s on the lot).

robertsmx

On an average day, about 1500 units of Accord are sold. I'm assuming there are about 1000 dealers, so that makes it 1.5 units/day by each dealer (on average).

400 units sounds like a year's supply, and considering that 200 units of 2007, I'm assuming they aren't expecting another truck load until MY2009.

PS. Dealerships/sales people are the last people on the planet I would believe for anything.

texases

I just looked at their on-line inventory list, had about 150.

robr2

Well Norm Reeves is a huge dealership in Los Angeles which is probably Honda's biggest market so that wouldn't be suprising.

I stopped by Herb Chambers in Burlington, MA earlier this week and they probably had 60 and this is one location out of the three Honda stores he has.

robr2

Could take a while to get everything on line.

texases

Definitely. My point's more 'they got lots'. Like many have said in this forum, if Honda wants to sell 500,000 a year of these, they'll be plenty to go around (and discount) once the new model release demand goes away.