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I figured it was GG and his "love" of caddys that Richard was worried about. But the only car (besides the danged GLK) that I associate with Driver is BMW. Unless he had a past trauma with something GM?
Now, can I see Richard getting an X5? no way they would go with an X3.
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Richard
Richard
Glad your wife was brave enough to let you know what she thought
about the Flex before you pulled the trigger.
That makes it even more important to try the GLK.
It is the perfect size for most situations...a smaller car
that will ride better than a larger one. It will be made
with top quality materials and will handle beautifully.....no
2nd thoughts - quality always feels good!
FYI, the Flex was a big surprise. I thought with all that falling
off a chair, and everyone being surprised it was going
to be a SmartCar.
Back to look at some ruins in Rome.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Wow...this is getting interesting! I am not going to count on anything, it ain't over until it's over!
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Hi chikoo, welcome back. Looks like a nice car. Now, are you going to give us a story to go along with it.
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I really do feel at home in this forum. I will try to participate regularly now.
Isell.....you retired? really? C'mon you are still better than others out there. Do what you love to do. sell.
Yeah ME. :mad:
Nice car, congratulations but you know the rules here; you can’t just lay a picture on us without the details of the purchase (buying price not necessary). That stuff ain’t allowed and you know it (remember the name of this forum? :confuse: ) The last guy that tried that crap had his dues jacked up so high he had to refinance the house so that he’d be back in good standing here again. Hate to see that happen to an old poster buddy like you but you probably still have time till they file the paper work.
Nice that you came back.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
That sounds like you’re going to look in the mirror. :P
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Caddy? Hmmmm....... Not that my opinion matters, and I know I'm in the minority, but I think Cadillac is GM's worst brand. GM does middle of the road well. Premium? Not so much (at least not compared to the other premium brands out there).
Driver....BTW.....2010 is the first year that my sisters and I will be without our parents. As such, we always were with our parents over the holidays. Now that it's just us, we were looking to do something different. We're looking to take a Christmas Cruise. Looking at the options now. Would love to hear some cruise line experiences.
Richard.....good luck. I think it is a Benz SUV if you have a dealership looking for colors. I can't imagine a Caddy (or even a Ford) dealer not having any color you wanted on their lot.
Well, we've been kind of been encourageing isell to kick back and enjoy his retirement. He's had moments of wanting to go back to sales, but his memories of the grinders and slimeball customers keeps him on the golf course.
More and more a career in car sales looks to be a 6 month to 1 year job for most who enter the profession... what with the internet and "The Jipst Method of New Car Buying" cutting dealer profits significantly.
The good thing was, I didn't have to grin and bear it with the grinders. I was able to simply throw them out.
I would rather throw stuff in the trash then to give a grinder a discount. We priced things to sell quickly but with "some" people, it's never enough.
For others we could tell were in need we gave things away and today we are hauling the stuff that didn't sell to a charity Garage Sale that is happening this weekend. Very sad story.
Driver, don't forget to give us a scouting report on the Fiat models you see.
Me too. I'm going to go with VW Touareg. :shades:
Damn you know ‘driver’ isn’t going to let that one slide by without a dissertation.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Sorry to hear that. My brothers and I hit that just before Christmas in 08.
I like the cruise idea. I don't know that I could sell everyone on the idea.
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I think you got it. Why? Because I agree with you !!
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Geez, one day you are going to say something nice to me and then I really will be in a state of shock, and will fall out of my chair.
I even say nice things about your Genesyst and this is what I get?
The last time you said unkind things about your unkind neigbors to the North and you blew up the whole Edmunds website for 3 days!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
It is the perfect size for most situations...a smaller car
that will ride better than a larger one. It will be made
with top quality materials and will handle beautifully.....no
2nd thoughts - quality always feels good!
You must have a split personality. You've admitted repeatedly that the GLK is clearly inferior to the Audi Q5 in every important respect: quality of materials, ride, handling, etc. You've pointed out that the GLK placed dead last in Car & Driver's authoritative & comprehensive 5-way comparison of compact luxury SUVs - the same comparison that the Q5 aced easily.
And yet you continue to push the GLK. Is one part of your brain not aware of what the other part is up to?
I am probably not the best one to get cruise info from...it isn't our favorite way to travel. The good thing about a cruise is 1) it is simple, they get you there and help you get around 2) you park your luggage,once, and you don't take it from hotel to hotel, 3) a big one is you can see lots of different places all in one trip. I think it will be a lot more fun for you because you will have your sister with you and it is more fun if you have other people involved. It will depend on your interests, last year the Balcan cruise was interesting, especially St Petersburg. I liked China the best, which was a trip with a few days cruising on the Yangtze..it was spectacular.
I will let you know how this goes, 3 stops in italy, 3 in Greece, stop in Egypt and one in turkey.
I do think differently when it comes to Mercedes Benz though. It might not have all the bells and whistles and gizmos that an Acura has, but it will be built to the highest standards, everything in it will be top quality, and you will love it just as much 10 years from now as you do today...they actually get better with age, and become classics. MB makes a car you will be proud to own and drive, and you will not think it was a mistake or is inferior in any way.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I haven't fogotten...there are a few weird ones. I am still looking. Fiats get weird, there are some Lancias and even Toyotas, but I am working on it.
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c'mon Richard, the clock is ticking here... :shades:
Who said anything about falling out of a chair? See below.
I even say nice things about your Genesyst and this is what I get?
You could have fooled me. You call that nice? Butchering the name of my beauty like that. And don’t blame it on the way Canadians spell thing, either.
Now I do want you to fall out of that boat. :mad: (with a life vest of course)
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Let me review my position on this. It was you, not me, who found this in Car & Driver;
You've pointed out that the GLK placed dead last in Car & Driver's authoritative & comprehensive 5-way comparison of compact luxury SUVs
I found articles that liked the GLK, remember felt as solid as a vault and you wouldn't feel a thing if there was an explosion under it. Also, it is squarer in shape than a Q5. I did say after reading the articles you mentioned that the Q5 was worth looking at and comparing, and if I went by the articles you submitted it might be a superior car. If it was me, i would probably try them both out.
But, I think an MB is almost always a great choice. I know it will be built to very high standards, the workmanship will be excellent, it will be a car you will be proud to own for many years. The Q5 may be better, and I would test it with an open mind, but there isn't anything wrong with a GLK and personally, i like the looks of it more, and I trust the MB name a little more, for reasons I can't explain. I liked the A4 when my wife tried the A4 and the 3 Series BMW and the bimmer just had a more solid feeling to me and to my wife. Many people would have another opinion, that's why they buy an A4.
So, to be clear, the articles you presented made the Q5 seem to be a superior car. I found articles that all said the GLK was excellent. I prefer MBs and BMWs generally, compared to an Audi, but I would look into it if it was me who was in the market.
One more time, I will explain to you regarding Richard. I don't want to confuse the issue, if he tries a GLK to see how it compares to his other choices, he will see if he likes the feel of a fine vehicle. If he happens to like it, he can compare it to comparable cars, but there is no sense in asking him to try a Q5 if he isn't going to try a GLK.
Wheeeeeeew!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
You spell it Gene"cyst" if you were going for the medical pun.
You posting on vacation? Dang we must be pretty good to take priority over the ruins of Rome.
I knew it I just knew it !!!! :sick:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
LOL, I just butchered the name because I wanted to get you back.
I was the one who cleared up the name of your car...and the beer don't forget. Your car is a Gennie, the beer is hey Genny!
Someone just told us they all had to come out of their rooms on a cruise ship because someone reported a jumper. They had to circle back just in case. The crew stayed out all night to watch for jumpers. It was just a hoax, someones sick sense of humor. That life vest might not be a bad idea though...might get in the way a bit at dinner time though.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
That was a spelling mistake, but I have caught up on work stuff, and trying to keep up with you guys.....waiting to hear if Richard got a Smart Car.
I told my wife, do we have to keep looking at all these ruins? Actually, there are fantastic old buildings and the traffic, the crowds, the shops, the cobblestone roads, are all amazing to see. We have been walking all day, and we came in to rest before going out for dinner. We are 6 hours ahead of eastern time here.
I am using the netbook, and the keys are different and very small, but thats no excuse for syst. My mistake, but i probably walked 10 miles today plus up and down 6 flights of stairs in the hotel a few times, the elevator is so so slow and is just big enough for 2 people and 2 suitcases.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
You've obviously consumed too many of those bamboo umbrella drinks. After I went to the trouble of visiting an MB & an Audi dealership on the same day to see both cars, I pointed out that (a) the GLK used visibly cheaper materials in its (notice that I did not say "it's") interior & (b) had less rear legroom than the Q5. You agreed with me & said that you would not buy a GLK for yourself. Why, then, tell Richard, that he should test-drive one?
I don't want to confuse the issue, if he tries a GLK to see how it compares to his other choices, he will see if he likes the feel of a fine vehicle.
I don't think that Richard will buy any German-made car. But if you're going to bang your head against the wall & try to talk him into it, why not push the car that you yourself have admitted is the class leader?
I guess that I don't understand the Canadian mind, such as it is.
You'll definitely score points with richard on that one!
Maybe "it's" instead of "its" is Canadian....
Personally, my only goal is to be with them. Doing so while in the middle of the ocean seems like a neat idea, especially when someone else is doing the cooking, cleaning and planning. On that, we all agree. We really don't care where we go.
You and I are just going to have to disagree about Mercedes. I've yet to find one that compels me to even want to make an offer on it, or to hold my interest for an hour test drive, let alone several years.
I don't think we can blame it on my Canadian mind. I may not be explaining myself very well. I looked at a GLK lately and I liked it a lot. It is simple and classy looking. I didn't notice cheap materials, and none of the articles I read said they used cheap materials. All the reviews I read said this was a really well made car in the tradition that you would expect from MB. Rear seat room may be of some importance, but that is not a big factor for me or lots of people.
Although on paper the Q5 sounds impressive, and I would test it if I was in that particular market, but there is nothing wrong with the GLK. I just like the square looks and I like the way MB does their interiors. It's like Richard likes a Town Car...it isn't as advanced as say an new Explorer, but it has a certain charm to it.
If i was a betting person I would bet the GLK will outsell the Q5 because the GLK has an unknown mystique....it has this charm that you can't define. I don't like the jazzy bubbly rounded look of the Q5 as much.
That's the undefinable thing that makes some people buy a C Class, and some an Audi A4....one is probably better theoretically, but it is really how you feel about it.
I don't think that Richard will buy any German-made car. But if you're going to bang your head against the wall & try to talk him into it, why not push the car that you yourself have admitted is the class leader?
Briefly for the last time. The Q5 came into the picture about 3 months later and as you say, buying a German car seems to be very unlikely, so why try to switch course when the chances are so slim. If you feel that strongly about it write to Richard....and really hit your head against a brick wall. It took months for him to agree to a test drive if I tried a Town Car, which I will try to do...but i am not going to switch horses in the middle of a race, especially when there is about a .54% chance at best any way.
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2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Do as I did: look at both cars on the same day. You'll see for yourself that MB cut corners on the GLK's interior. You won't need to read any articles to reach this conclusion.
Then again, Audi is the acknowledged leader when it comes to automotive interior design.
With that in mind i think a cruise might be a good way to do it, definitely no cooking, cleaning or planning. You won't want to be in the middle of the ocean though, that is boring. You will have to see what suits you, just fun or a learning experience. Fun would be more like Panama, or Mexico, educational is more Europe or Baltic. Also, the cruise lines are worth checking, Carnival is younger and more fun stuff, Royal Carribean is for older more serious travellers and Norwegian is in the middle.
disagree about Mercedes. I've yet to find one that compels me to even want to make an offer on it, or to hold my interest for an hour test drive, let alone several years
I think it is understandable. You are a techno guy and a Mercedes is more of a traditional car. That is what i find so charming, they feel like a car, the way I remember cars to be, with long hood you can see, a traditional looking instrument panel, etc. Acuras are jazzed up with electronics and more of the bubble air flow transformer look. That's OK too, but I prefer less techno and more retro...and that's just a personal opinion.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Do you have an Audi? I have often read that Audi is the leader in interior designs. I liked the Audi A4 very much, and I liked the interior, but the BMW was a little nicer to me. The Audi salesman said an Audi falls between a Mercedes, which has more luxury, and a BMW which is stronger on the engineering and handling. I think he is correct, and that that concept would appeal to quite a few people. On the other hand, if I felt luxury was important to me I would probably opt for the MB, if I felt strongly about handling, I would opt for a BMW. So, it might be what is important to you.
I don't doubt your findings about the 2 interiors. I saw the GLK and I liked it, didn't find anything wrong with it. If I get a chance to see a Q5 I will check it out, now I am curious. But, I might just like the classic understated look of the GLK more, like I say, it has a certain classic feel to me, and I prefer it to jazzy, which some people prefer, those are personal choices. Not saying the Audi is too jazzy, I have to check it out before I give my opinion.
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I did find this cutey....for those who really like square lines;
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Look into an all inclusive resort. You don't have to worry about any preparations either, and there's no/less pressure to do any activities/go sightseeing.
It sounds like due to your particular circumnstances, something more relaxed and with less pressure to do activities might be the ticket. Good luck and sorry for your loss.
Richard
So, to summarize:
1) Mid size SUV or CUV
2) FWD only
3) Probably not Korean or German
4) No Chrysler or Toyota branded products
So, what's left?
1) Volvo XC60 .. a true 'mid size' crossover, with enough luxury to appease Richard and space for the antiques they like to acquire
2) Lexus RX350 .. yes, it's nothing more than an upscale Highlander
3) Ford Edge ... smaller in size than the Flex, it still has enough interior space to fill the bill
We shall see.
They are far from boring and just a wonderful thing to do!
If you are considering a cruise, investigate the various kinds---family cruises, senior cruises, party cruises, etc. Personally, a seven day cruise is about the limit for me. These ten and eleven day cruises get to be old. I think that a five day cruise is just about right.
Good luck as you make your plans. Regardless of what you decide, being with your sisters is the important thing.
Richard
I totally agree. It's difficult for two people to find the one that "is just right". BTW, you can scratch the Volvo, the Lexus, and the Ford Edge. I'll make it a bit easier. It's one of the Big 3. Since I have eliminated Chrysler, that only leaves GM and Ford. A poster named it a few days ago, but I didn't acknowledge their post.
Richard
Cruises are ok but I like a little spontaneity in my vacations. This last vacation we made a few adjustments in planning in mid vacation and did a few different things. Hard to just go off on your own on a cruise.
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