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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    "What would it take for you to bring this creamed corn home today?".....
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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,144
    Gogi...I've had several people over the years ask me to invest in their bar, or their restaurant. I 've told them all the same thing. I know how to eat in a restaurant. I know how to drink in a bar. I wouldn't have any idea how to run either one.

    Same with dealerships. I know how to drive a car. I'm pretty good at buying and selling to a dealership. I don't know where to begin if I were to own one.

    I'd like to give it a shot, though....with someone else's money. :shades:
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  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    the trade value seems low and the asking of the 2010 seems high.

    That's what I was trying to say, but the salesguy thought I should just fall for it.

    It was only going to be a treat for me since my birthday is in 3 days.

    My wife said "I don't have a present yet...go for it".

    The salesguy made little effort so I blew it off.

    Andy, feel free to call them and tell them what you just said.

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    What's the info on the trade?

    Post it up and I can give you a realistic value....... I've seen TMV be $2,000 light and $4,000 high...
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,818
    take you Escape to Carmax.
    Here is the only one they have within 500 miles of central CT
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,293
    "...it was hard to get the same clients to go with creamed corn the following weeks after they found out how bad that stuff tastes!..."

    So you're saying Imbrentwood got the "creamed corn" at the Lexus store. :cry:

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Nah I bought it as a lease return when I worked at Toyota. Car was clean, fresh tires and brakes, no paintwork, etc.

    Then the nightmare started.
  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    What's the info on the trade?

    It's a 2007 Red 6 cyl 4WD, his is 6 cyl 2WD. I'm over it.
    I'll just stay with my Escape.

    Besides I just put new wiper blades and NAPA's best battery in it.

    All I wanted to do was a little upgrade. Federal Reserve Notes are really becoming worthless these days. 10 grand used to mean something.

    2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali

  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    they found out how BAD that stuff tastes!

    That brings back horrible memories from my childhood. My parents use to like the stuff as did my older sister. It made me gag. To this day the smell of it makes me run for the nearest exit. :sick:
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    Hyundai is advertising a guaranteed trade in value at the end of three years on any of their new cars.

    Check out the Tucson or Santa Fe, then come back and tell us what the "catch" is.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    the catch is that they only guarentee the trade in value if you trade it in for a new Hyundai.

    That being said the KBB trade in value of my wifes Sonata is within a few hundred of what we paid for it.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    Most Lexuses have good reliability ratings. The GS AWD, for some reason, has a very poor rating, per CR. The darn things have been around a long time so you would think they could figure it out.

    Car problems like that can be a nightmare. Hope you get it worked out.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    the catch is that they only guarentee the trade in value if you trade it in for a new Hyundai.

    Well that makes sense. I didn't think they would go down to the local Ford dealer and tell them how much to give you on a trade for a new Mustang. :)

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Because it's unreliable and I hate it. Lexus has also been horrible. Check out mylexussucks.com

    What happened to:
    Lexus North America's troubling response to my concerns

    Seems that page doesn't show up right now. What if you are offered an incredible job at a Lexus Store? Will you take it?

    That has to be a really frustrating experience. I know you want a Jaguar, but what are you driving now, I don't know if you mentioned that....must have been 4 posts yesterday.

    That car is in the running for "lemon of the year" award.

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Still need more info to get a value tho... post the specs on the car in real world trade in values...
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,242
    I must be the only person on the planet who likes that stuff. No one in my family does, so my days of eating it are probably over. Then again, I like brussel sprouts, lima beans, beets, turnips... all those veggies everyone else hates.

    Maybe I'd like the Lexus too, though I kind of doubt it.

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  • jayriderjayrider Member Posts: 3,602
    2 cans of creamed corn + a small box of frozen corn + small tin of ElPaso chillies + 4 0z monterrey jack shreds + 4oz cheddar shreds + 3-4 tbs melted butter. S&P to taste. Mix and bake for 30 minutes at 350. Ice cold beer and a bottle of hot sauce, then get outta my way !!
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Oops... I need to fix that.

    I already own a Jaguar, an 06 XJ8 that I bought.. shoot.. spring of 09? Love it. Over memorial day weekend I took it on a 1,000 mile tour of New England and had a blast, especially along the Kancamagus Highway :)

    Just sold my E-Type that I was never gonna get around to restoring... I've driven Jags for years and have had good luck with them, sold TONS AND TONS of them on my used car lot, had VERY few issues.

    Lexus can go... well... use your imagination.

    I currently own.. shoot... 9 cars I think? Next purchase is a 1956 Lincoln Premiere and then I'm going to ship the Lexus off to the auction....

    At the moment I'm driving an 08 TL as a demo... for today anyhow.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    The BEST creamed corn in the entire world is at Gullivers. Right acros the street from John Wayne Airport in Orange County CA.

    Not like the stuff that comes out of a can!
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    edited July 2011
    I finally got to this site! We're having a great time. Car and passengers doing well. Made it to Nashville first day, Kansas City second day, and North Platte, Nebraska third day. Then we slowed down to see new things. Spent two days seeing Mt. Rushmore, Crazy Horse, and Bad Lands of South Dakota. Awesome experience. Went to Devil's Tower yesterday, and drove through the northern Rockies---threw snowballs at one another at one point---great fun. Will meet my sister and BIL this afternoon in Jackson Hole, WY. Will be there for five days doing Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Cody, etc. They'll fly home and we'll head for Salt Lake City and on to Denver. Wife's health is doing good. I have some leg pain but I'm having such a great time that it doesn't matter.

    Imid---You'll be proud of me. I check my oil monitor each evening when we stop. The oil has gone from 77% to 53% since we left. This covers 2,700 miles at this point. I'll continue to watch it. Gas mileage is now at 18 mpg average. SRX is doing great. So comfortable.

    Driver---the V8 is a great option. I've needed those horses three or four times and they never failed me.

    Houdini and fezo---the papers will do yoou no good. I've alerted Mrs. Richard to be on guard. :D

    Brentwood---Welcome home! It's so nice to have you back.

    GG---Hope the car is exactly what you want when you see it.

    Bolivar---I'm doing better. I read part of the manual on the way out here. I now even know how to change my settings. :)

    Bottom Line: So glad that we did this trip. We were hesitant; but it's been a wonderful experience so far. We feel 30 years old again!

    Houdini---I'll be in touch if we don't turn far south on our way back.

    All of you take care and I'll try to post again.

    Richard
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,217
    Great to hear about your Jag experience as a month ago I bought an off-lease '09 XK coupe. Loving it, but just spent two days at the dealer having the an ac valve changed (passenger footwell filled with water after a road trip w/ac running), the integrated audio module fixed and the glove box reset (stopped "soft landing"). Thank goodness for the warranty! And, hopefully, that's it for a long time.

    Unfortunately, for Jag, with these experiences my wife has crossed a new XF off her list.

    I bought a British car, used. Not sweating it, knew the possiblities. But, when the warranty is done...!

    Wife's car is an almost 10 year old Lexus RX, faithful servant. Put a bunch of $$$ into it the past few years, though, wear/maintenance stuff. Sorry for your trials and tribulations...

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    brentwood - nine cars? Let's see, three Vauxhalls,a Jag and a Lincoln... I'm only up to 5. I assume the Lexus is gone. You're not having a Hyundai because you sell them are you? I would find that entertaining.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Sir Fezo...

    60 Vauxhall PA Velox
    62 Vauxhall PA Velox
    60 Vauxhall F Series Victor
    57 Porsche 356A
    56 Packard Caribbean Convertible
    88 BMW M5
    97 BMW 740iL
    06 Jaguar XJ8
    07 Lexus GS350 AWD POJ

    Think that's all of em... :confuse:
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,571
    '88 M5?? What color is it? (lol) :shades:

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    So when are we going joy riding in the Packard? I'm surprised I never knew about that one!
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,556
    Is frankly what scares me to death about buying a used or CPO car. The car was leased, well taken care of, had no paint work, still under the factory warranty (not even a CPO warranty) & Bill KNOWS HIS STUFF when it comes to used cars. He still got a piece of junk!

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    When I get clear title from probate!

    Been 10 years and counting... arrgh
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Yeah but this can happen with any car really.

    What annoys me was Lexus being atrocious to deal with. I will still never be silly enough to buy a brand new Luxury car, and ya know, I can deal with problems, big deal.

    Car breaks? Under warranty? No problem, fix it. Now when the dealers and the manufacturer couldn't care less, that's when I get enraged. It's not so much the fact that the car has been a lot of trouble, as much as that Lexus has been so horrible about it.

    It's not like I'm some schlub off the street, I have been doing this for 16 years, I know how to buy cars wholesale, I know how warranties work, etc.

    So that's fine, it's going to cost them a whole pile of customers.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Yeah, a bit over a year ago I had some sleazeball get my wife into this 07 Camry that was a beauty off lease. What was the name of that rat? Oh, wait! It was Bill! :D

    The car is fine. She put a lot of miles on it and it goes along with no complaint. Not my idea of a car but she loves it.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    edited July 2011
    Glad you finally found which button to push to get here.

    I saw a cartoon once where this guy was showing his boss how to "reboot" his laptop. The pic showed the boss holding a Etch-A-Sketch over his head and shaking it. :)

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Glad she loves it :)

    FWIW I think, all told, we made $40 on that deal.

    "Psst, Fezo... got a 60 day unit.. you can have it for MMR..."

    Meanwhile I bought my Jag used and it's been GREAT! I'll probably never buy another new car... tell ya what I have been thinking... I can snag an off lease Genesis with advanced Nav for $21-22ish... I am SERIOUSLY thinking of doing that.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Don't suppose the Genesis is one of your 60 day cars......

    You made $40 on that deal? I must be slipping......
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    If you can live without Navi YOU can have a base with 22k for $20,700 certified.

    64 days in stock baby!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,571
    Got a nice E30 325iS that's been on the lot too long? ;) :shades:

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    HA!

    Had a BEAUTIFUL one when I had the lot in Orlando... actually a few.

    Had one, an 87, with like 40k original miles and a 5 speed, I forget miles but it was a GEM of a one owner. Had it on the lot for silly money, like $8,995 or so.. this was in 2004 or so. Guy was beating me up on the price.. claimed KBB was $5k or some nonsense. OK, go buy a 125k mile edgy car for that I thought.

    30 days, no sale, threw it on eBay, $1 no reserve, did like $10k.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    edited July 2011
    Except typically Lexus aren't junk like Bills is unless things have gone to hell with them recently and I didn't know about that.

    Yet, he has had great luck with a Jaguar of all things? Go figure!

    I've heard horror stories about some people who lease cars and literally drive the daylights out of them, never change the oil etc knowing they are going to bail out in three years.

    Bill does know his stuff but some things are hard to spot.

    EDIT: Just read Bill's comments about the DEALER and it sounds like that is a bigger problem than the car has been. I would have expected better from a high line store.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I've been thinking now that the Koreans are building buch better cars than in the past that the resale wold improve but from all I hear, I guess this isn't the case. They do poorly at auction and even when bought for way back of book, the customers just walk past them on the lots.

    Bill, do you think this will someday change?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,555
    edited July 2011
    Most likely doing over our master bath next month. Can we decided on a tub (finally), but am looking for some advice on options for the shower gear. Mostly, what is a model/brand that we can get from a plumbing supply (not doing the big box places) that has good bang for the buck (and I am trying to keep cost under control on this). Hey, you have a website?

    anyway, I want to keep it relatively straightforward, with a top head, but 2 body sprays (from the front). And those I have no experience with.

    are we better off with individual components (since we are gutting the shower anyway and have access to the wall) vs. one of those all in one external units?

    as always, any help mucho appreciated.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,087
    I can snag an off lease Genesis with advanced Nav for $21-22ish... I am SERIOUSLY thinking of doing that.

    Damn, wish my 09 had NAV. You could have it for payoff (22 ish) with only 23K on the clock.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,293
    "...Think that's all of them..."

    Boy, and I thought I had a lot of old cars! :surprise:

    Haven't heard much from driver100 today. I bet he took off to Ottawa to see William and Kate. I had him pegged for a royals groupie. :P

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,144
    Richard...great to hear from you. Glad you're having a grand time. It sounds like the Caddy is doing well for you.

    No worries regarding the BMW. if it happens, it happens. If not, who knows? It's not like I don't have other sleds gracing the GG abode. As much as I try to get down to one car, they're like rabbits and keep multiplying.

    Brentwood...it really is good to have you back.... :)
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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Craig,

    Know ya think I'm nuts but we sold LOTS of them in Orlando and we really had VERY few issues, we had way more issues with BMWs and Mercedes than Jaguars.

    Now, Land Rovers? Whole other story, but 95% of the people buying them knew exactly what they were getting themselves into.

    As far as Hyundais, the market has really changed on them, you ought to see what they do at auction these days, I'll buy 20 truckloads back of Galves! Heck, I'll buy 20 truckloads AT Galves! Elantras in particular are bringing huge numbers at the sale, but again, I only buy 07 and newer stuff... but did just send 2 high mile 01 Santa Fe LXs to a local manheim sale, both brought BIG money.

    Of course, this could be a reflection of the general used car market as a whole, which is insane anyhow.

    Bill
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    drove through the northern Rockies---threw snowballs at one another at one point---great fun.

    Oh, we have those for 5 months of the year...it's not such fun after awhile.

    Driver---the V8 is a great option. I've needed those horses three or four times and they never failed me.

    We went on a 180 mile round trip today and I appreciated the extra HP a few times myself. It is actually a safety feature in many respects.

    So glad that we did this trip. We were hesitant; but it's been a wonderful experience so far. We feel 30 years old again!

    Glad you are enjoying it and there is something about a road trip and just enjoying the whole experience, not having to be somewhere by a certain time.

    Have fun, write again if you can! :D

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    If I can sell a base, certified for $20,700... ;)

    That car should come back around 19kish is my guess.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Haven't heard much from driver100 today. I bet he took off to Ottawa to see William and Kate. I had him pegged for a royals groupie.

    Actually I don't like big crowds and I don't get going on a long trip to see almost any one! But I like Kate and William and they are having a great time and so are the people.

    Britain has lots of great traditions, like Wimbleton which is on this week and the finals are on this weekend.

    We went to Stratford to see Camelot today...it's a 90 mile drive each way and the play was 3 hours long....so you were very astute to know I was missing today.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,087
    That is a great price. Mine is not base, but not full boat Tech package either. I recently saw an 09 just like mine advertised for $27,995. I thought that was pretty high.

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Depends on the equipment. Right now I'm driving a base, no moonroof, no nav, just.. umm... leather and bluetooth. I think the buyout on it was around $19k. Ones with Navi and 18s are coming off around the 22k mark.

    The Santa Fes and Sonatas are the ones to snag.. residuals are WAY back of what they're worth.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,087
    Mine has the roof, the lexicon, power tilt and tele, leather dash etc. I hate the way mine rides (most people here are probably tired of hearing me say it lol). IMO its just too stiff and jittery. What do you think of it?

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    OK, so I should buy tjc78's Genesis for $19K. This could work! :D

    Well, maybe not for him. :(
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I remember what extended warranties sold for on used Jaguars. It was almost like they didn't even want to sell them. On Land Rovers, they refused to sell warranties at ANY price. Whenever we took one in, our GM made us wholesale it. We just got burned every time we took a chance on what we thought was an exceptional one.

    From what I hear, the west coast is still very soft on anything Korean but I know how quickly the market can turn.

    I've never seen a Galves book. Out here it's mostly NADA and sometimes Kelly.

    The used market is nuts here too!
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