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Michael, I hate to burst your bubble on this, but MB is misleading you on your loaner car.
The C250 has a 1.8L turbo 4-cylinder engine under the bonnet. Yeah, I know, you expect the 250 to represent the engine size like it does with your E-class, but that's not true.
And, the C300 actually has the same 3.5L engine as your car.
Go figure.
EDIT - MB is not the only company to do this; BMW also does it with the latest iteration of their 328i sedan ... it has a 2.0L turbo 4-cylinder as the standard engine.
Nope! They always "needed" that sunroof and Navi system.
It was easy to see why they didn't have any money.
Hondas and Toyotas may be boring but they usually start up and run well!
Wow, you mean some of my advice was actually helpful?
Thank for the tip on the kill switch for the battery. I'm going to get one.
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Just goes to show ya - you learn something new every day!
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Hondas and Toyotas may be boring but they usually start up and run well!
Interestingly enough, of all the E350's I've owned (7 of them), this is the very first one I've ever had to take back to the dealer for anything! I guess that doesn't mean much since I've had one every year, and don't even get to take them in for oil changes. But on average, I keep them for around 10-12 months.
This one needs to get me to 2015 because they are just changing the headlights on the 2014's, but the big body change comes in 2015, and with the way the economy is going lately, I might not even do it then.
I'm sure *jmonroe will have a comment or two about this!
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Some people are completely clueless....the worst mistake he could have made, as you know.
Not only has he shown all his cards, he has pretty well said he doesn't care what he will be paying....that guy is a car salesman dream customer.
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That's unfortunate but mistakes can happen. I am surprised they don't happen more often with new cars....they are getting so complex, especially electronics.
I would say Mercedes is allowed a mistake after all the cars you have owned, the main thing is they have to fix it right and get it back to you quickly, and then they can be forgiven.
It is nice that you are enjoying the C250 though. I am divided whether I really need a 535, or would prefer the smaller nimbler A4 next time around.
I do like the 535 on a long drive, but prefer the smaller car for in town. One of each would be good!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
What's even worse, they know nothing about HOW to buy a car. In all the years I was in the car business, both as a salesman and as a manager, I never had a customer drive a car, select one in stock, and then tell me they wanted the monthly payment to be $200 over list price! Honest!
I've had them tell me they want a car or SUV and won't pay a dollar over $450 a month for a car or SUV that was a loss at $550 a month. But no one ever offered me $200 a month over what I would let the car go for.
Your friend's best friends have one heck of a true SALES STORY, but not one that worked out to the advantage of the customer!
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driver.....I didn't know the Passat had a 5 cyl. I thought it shared the 2.0T with Audi.
When the GF was looking at cars, she test drove an A5 with the 2.0T, as did I. Pretty nice cars. And, the A5 is a looker. But, once we drove the S4, it was all over.
While very premature, the BWM warranty is up in MY 2014-15. So, for discussion's sake, I started wondering what I'd get next. If BMW doesn't improve some of the things you outlined, I'll probably move away from it.
Or, I may take over the S4 (which I've pretty much done already) from the GF, and we start to look at something other than a BMW. The A5 may be on the short list. She really loved my former Acura. So, that may be on her short list, too.
First 5K miles on the S4 have been totally maintenance and trouble free. It's going in over the Holidays for its first oil change.
That said, if they haul or tow, you'd be hard pressed to find a vehicle better suited to do either of those things in comfort and with ease.
I agree with you, a Pilot would probably be a much better vehicle.
As far as buying a new vehicle, I can only relay what I told my son. Do some homework about your finances first, before even setting foot in the dealership.
Do a little investigating and make a budget. Can you endure a car payment? If so, how much? If you save enough, can you get something serviceable without a car payment? If so, do it.
If, for example, $15K is your budget, what can you get? A nice late model used car is probably doable. Or, a decent new economy car would be possible, too. Which suits best?
Once you narrow your budget down, now you know where to shop, and what to shop for.
Saving a a few hundred, or even a thousand dollars on a deal means nothing if you can't afford what you're looking at to begin with.
It never ceases to amaze me reading threads talking about how this or that person was able to beat another person's deal by a few hundred dollars. Nobody asks..."what did you get for your trade-in? what are your finance charges over the course of the loan? Etc."
Maybe I'm starting to fall into the old "if you are looking at payment amounts, you can't afford the car you're trying to buy" routine.
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Really good advice.
>Maybe I'm starting to fall into the old "if you are looking at payment amounts, you can't afford the car you're trying to buy" routine.
But that lack of ability to pay doesn't stop most people, incuding the federal government.
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I have now been making a car payment on a car I don't have. $300 a month. We'll see how much I have in there when it's actually time to buy a car.
What exactly is the difference between an F30 and an E90, bothe 328s?
The F30 interior is very nice except for the "beer tap" automatic shifte
I have a "beer tap shifter" in the 535 (cute name) and though it takes a while to get used to it, it really is a lot more advanced than the normal shifter. It just seems to be more advanced...more electronic than manually pushing and pulling.
The standard information screen in the F30 looks like it should retract
I think I figured it out, the F30 is the new 4 cylinder model. OK, well, that info screen was one reason I liked the A4 more. On the A4 it is built into the dash, on the F30 it looks like they forgot they needed it, and added it on at the last minute.....and forgot to make it fold down.
r. On top of that, the auto-stop feels pretty crude.
That auto-stop is silly. I just press the button in and get rid of it when I start the car...it has become a habit. It is not bad to have though, if you are approaching and there is a train crossing the road, or if you know you are at a long light.
. The F30 steering is better than the numb tiller in the F10 5er, but not by much.
I basically agree, but if you get the M package (which isn't really like the full blown racing M package of old) and the sport package the steering and suspension really tightens up. I don't think any enthusiast would buy a 5 series without that option....unless they just want to be seen driving a bmw, and don't care about handling. I tried a 535 without that option and would not have bought it if that was the way it came, but, having the Sport options changes the whole car.
That Car and Driver quote is very accurate. I think BMW is now appealing to the masses rather than the enthusiasts, and you can't blame them. They are now in the game to maximize profit, and 80% of the population may want to own a bmw, but only 10% really buy it because of the way it handles and performs. In a way, BMW has jumped the shark.
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There's a novel idea, make sure you can afford the actual car....not just the payments per month. What a way to buy a car, basing it on the monthly payments. That is why I see adds, just $140 bi-weekly for 84 months!.
The payments will go on longer than the car......................
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I've read a lot of posts regarding headlights. My two cars are very different. The convertible headlights have to be done manually; the Cadillac has the automatic features. I just have to remember which car does what. I don't mind the manual switch at all. After all, how inconvenient is it to turn a switch? Also, the two gas tanks are on the opposite sides. I find that more irritating than the headlights.
I had new tires installed on the Cadillac this week---Goodyear Eagles. They're just like the originals. My indy tire guy got me a great deal. He shopped the dealers with prices ranging from $900 to $1,300 for the same set of tires. With mounting and balancing, my set came to $896.64 and I was very pleased. He has always found me good tire deals. He's about 45 years old and his wife is the receptionist and bookkeeper. He worked for my old indy tire guy for years and then bought the business when the owner retired.
Graphicguy: You gave your son excellent advice. Too many people buy cars without considering the cost of the car or the upkeep of the car. Neither do they factor in the overall expense and how it may impact the budget as it relates to house payments, utilities, food, clothing, education, etc. As for negotiating a car deal, I remain amazed at the number of people who think sticker is the final price or believe that their trade is worth what they paid five years ago. They do no research or comparison shopping. They jump the gun, pull the trigger, and remain shot in the foot for several years to come.
Mike: Sorry to hear of your problem with the MB. No car is flawless and it doesn't mean that MB is a bad manufacturer. As they say, "Sh** happens." I'm sure that they will find the problem and correct it.
Driver: Glad that you are enjoying your VW. Sounds like a nice vehicle.
Oldfarmer: I have a school bus story for you. I'll post it later.
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I was wondering where you have been....nice to have you back.
It looks like you got a great deal on tires, hope you enjoy them.
Out of curiosity, how many miles did you get on the original set? Were all 4 equally worn out or did you just want to replace them all at once?
About people who don't know how to negotiate cars...I always thought they should teach basic "How to manage your money" in high school. Do you think that could be worthwhile? A class in what is a mortgage, how does it work, why you should pay it off early, traps with credit cards, why you should never go to a check cashing store, etc. Could be more valuable than Geometry.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
The Pilot is a fantastic vehicle for them. I personally think they'd be better suited with a 2013 LX ($31,850 MSRP) or EX ($34,100 MSRP) as oppsoed to the 2012 Touring ($41,800 MSRP). They definitely cannot afford even the car they sre getting because they declined Honda's 1.9% for 60 month financing and took financing from the dealer for (I think) 4.9% for 72 months. So a "lesser" equipped Pilot would definitely be better for them.
I agree with you also that the absolute WORST thing you can do is "just look at the payment."
As someone who has never owned a used car as a DD (I did own an E30 that I bought used, but that was for a project), and doesn't have cash to buy my vehicles. It is difficult for me to justify buying a used car even though I well know that it has depreciated. As in the case of the Pilot. I'd take a good deal on a $34K EX ($31K?) rather than a used 2 year old Touring for the same price, especially since I would be financing.
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How about the parents be responsible for teaching those things? The schools are busy teaching all those other important things that the legislators on behalf of the public foisted on them--football, basketball, soccer, sex education, art, music, diversity, and lots of others I'm overlooking since my wife is outside decorating for Christmas.
Oddly, those are not on the state proficiency tests. The schools, and the teachers, have to teach to the proficiency tests or they are criticized by the public for being incompetent. My wife, a retired elementary teacher, has a lot to say about the incompetence of the public, legislators, and school administrators on those subjects.
Neither do I recall those things being on the SAT/ACT practice/old test copies from going over them with my son from when he first took them in 7th grade.
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How about the parents be responsible for teaching those things?
OK -- pizza delivery story coming up that ties into this thread. Skip if you're not interested.
It is quite common for parents to order pizza for delivery, then expect the kids to take care of the finances when I get to the door.
With the proliferation of debit cards, we print receipts out just like you would see at a restaurant .. order total, a blank line for the tip amount, then another blank line for the grand total.
Some kids understand how this works. Others don't. They will very meticulously write down the $5.00 tip and total the credit card slip correctly, then hand me a $5 bill.
They think that it's one and the same -- nope, you've just given me a $10 tip for that order.
The first time it happened, no big deal. The second time it happened, I called my wife for a bit of guidance. As noted above, she told me it's the parents responsibility, not mine, to explain how it works. I've learned to keep my mouth shut.
Just got a call from the service manager at my Mercedes Dealer and he said it took them all day yesterday and most of today to get the car duplicate the stalling problem after running the car. It seems that it is a "time" related issue - in other words, if the car sits for 20 minutes, the car starts fine; if the car sits for 35 minutes, it starts fine; but when they start the car 25-30 minutes after it has been run, it stalls and continues to stall each 25-30 minutes after running.
According to him, they have isolated it as a "leaking" injector in the direct injection system. Unfortunately, they now have to identify which injector it is - by use of a "fluoroscope", believe it or not! Once they have identified which injector it is, they have to pull the injector out, order a new injector, and then replace it, and then retest the start/stop procedure.
According to him, it could take another 5-7 days to identify the injector, order a replacement part, and reinsrtall the injector and then retest. I told them I am supposed to drive up to Ponte Verdra (near Jacksonville) Wednesday morning, but he responded that they may not have completed the repairs by then. I told him I would not drive a C Class 327 miles each way to get to my brother's house - that I needed a more comfortable and bigger car. He told me that they would get me a bigger car, no matter what the cost to them, if they couldn't have mine ready by next week.
I'll believe it when I see it.
According to the service shop foreman, who called me also, it seems that the leaking injector does not leak enough fuel into the cylindar after just 20 minutes and by 30-35 minutes, it has evaporated, supposedly. But when it is just 25-30 minutes, the cylindar has too much fuel and responds by stalling and then running rough for a while after the second start.
Since I am no mechanic (far from it), is anyone familiar with the problem I am having with the new E350?
Let me know, thanks!
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While I agree that it's the parents' job to teach the kids about money, people who are lousy at money will teach their kids how to be lousy about their money. They don't know any other way. I was a slow learner on that front. Kind of mixed messages from the folks. I do try to make sure I pass on what I have learned along the way. So far so good. Even the younger ones try to make sure of decisions.
Incompetent people teaching their children how to look after a budget! I agree, if it isn't on the curriculum it isn't going to get done. But, wouldn't it be nice if it was on the curriculum, it may be as important as sex education (don't they have a better name for that yet?).
Maybe, if you taught kids how to balance a budget they might understand, if they become politicians, that it is always wise to not spend more than you earn.
Maybe that is how this whole mess started :sick:
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I loved the pizza delivery story. $5 doesn't mean a lot to most kids, so they don't really care.
I suppose you could give back the $5 cash, but, then the kid will probably just keep it.
What is a reasonable tip for a pizza? Is it a flat $5 or 10%. I guess 10% of $25 wouldn't be very much.
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I am glad they didn't say, the car is fine, just don't start it between 25 to 35 minutes after you turn it off.
It is too bad it is that complicated and will take that long to fix. You would think they could just install 6 or 8 injectors and get you on your way.
Makes you wonder if you want to keep these cars after the warranty period though.....one week just to find the problem injector!
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I experienced similar you are describing on a one-cylinder two-cycle carburated motor from a moped 20 years ago (stopped motor flooded combustion chamber made it impossible restart the engine), so the description makes sense to me, i.e. even if it's not the actual cause, it is plausible. Besides the hardware failure (injector), it could also be a fuel management chip problem (software or hardware), basically electronics. But that would be relatively easy for them to detect by diagnostic program.
I actually believe them that they could get you something bigger than C250, if you really want one. They have mfrs. support, from manager's demo cars, perhaps even larger loaners for S-class folks. But regardless - C250 not good enough? Really? :confuse: Unless you a really large fellow, or plan to carry two passengers in the back, it should be OK for longer trip. Well, but what do I know, I like smaller cars, I have 328.
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What is a reasonable tip for a pizza? Is it a flat $5 or 10%. I guess 10% of $25 wouldn't be very much.
Hey, if they give me the money, I'm keeping it. :shades:
Everybody tips differently. I get poor tips in neighborhoods with million dollar homes, and great tips from customers who live in apartments. I've gotten to the point where I don't get affected much by good or bad tips.
Well, of course I agree with you - instead of using a fluoroscope (X-Ray) to find out which injector is leaking, replace them all. I left a message for the service manager about that, but I know what he'll say. "...We must isolate the cylinder where the injector is leaking and then order the part from Orlando (parts depot for southeast) because Mercedes requires us to do it that way..." To replace all the injectors would probably be very time consuming and labor intensive, not to mention the cost of the parts.
Their diagnosis could also be wrong - so I guess they have to identify the specific injector to make sure they order the correct part.
Hopefully they will call me back tomorrow. They've had the car since yesterday morning - and if the part(s) they need are not in Orlando, that could delay it even further.
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Aside from being different merely for the sake of being different, how does the "beer tap" improve on a conventional shifter?
but if you get the M package (which isn't really like the full blown racing M package of old) and the sport package the steering and suspension really tightens up.
I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but I don't care how "tight" the steering gets, because steering effort is not the same as steering feel. The F10 and F30 tillers might as well be xBox 360 force-feedback wheels for all the information they convey. Car and Driver again, from their July 2010 A6/M37/535i comparison test(where the F10 finished third):
What, exactly, befell the new 535i? Steering feel. Rather, lack of steering feel. The new electric power assist has not only rendered the steering uncommunicative—particularly on-center—but, for some reason, it has also become heavier. When you can’t determine road textures and slip angles and how hard those 19-inch Goodyear run-flats are working, you lose confidence if the roads are damp and as kinked as week-old spaghetti.
And when you lose confidence, the poison seeps into other crevices. Notice, for instance, that the 535i demonstrated terrific skidpad grip—an objective rating. Then, in the hills, its handling earned the lowest score—a subjective rating. That, in turn, infected the fun-to-drive ranking, where the BMW tanked because it’s simply no bowl of cherries predicting real-world lateral stick when the steering coughs up so few clues. Guess wrong and you’ll seriously rearrange the C-pillar’s signature “Hofmeister kink.”
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It is smoother and faster, one straight motion forward or back.....not putting it into a notch. Also, it is less mechanical and more scientific, or conversely, not as crude.
And when you lose confidence, the poison seeps into other crevices.
Possibly correct, but 98% of the population aren't going to notice or care. When you put the car into Sport+ mode the car crouches down a few inches, the steering tightens up, the suspension becomes firmer, and you are driving an entirely different car.
C&D may not like it, but other reviewers think it is incredible that you are really getting 2 or 3 cars in one, everything from a comfortable highway cruiser, to a real sports car with supreme cornering and handling ability.
I am sure it is not ideal for the enthusiasts especially if we are talking "track" people, but, if bmw only catered to the absolute enthusiasts market they wouldn't stay in business.
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I agree, Mike may actually get to like the smaller nimbler, closer to real driving, the C250 offers. Even temporary, it is nice to try something different.
The 535 is nice, but, it is actually enjoyable driving the little Passat for a change (I don't know if that came out sounding the way it should).
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I know you aren't like that Mike & would rather have your own E to drive instead of a loaner C due to the size as well as you & your Dad's wanting to be more comfortable on a long trip.
2015? No way! I see these MB Winter Event commercials. Does anybody smell something? It's a combination on lemon law & new car smell:)
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*nyccarguy, are you trying to say you didn't shower this morning?
No, it's not going to happen - I just am not very comfortable in the C 240, and a long trip like that would kill my back!
Just kidding about the shower.
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NYC....hmmmmm?????? You may be on to something there. LOL!
My BMW dealership has a mineral white 335i xDrive Sport Line (I'm thinking a color similar to Mike's MB) with red interior sitting in their showroom. They said it was the first '13 xDrive 335i they've received (nearly all of their cars are of the 328i variety).
Sat in it. Admittedly, that color combination is pretty nice. Sales guy asked if I wanted him to pull it out of the showroom to go for a test drive. I declined.
It's all loaded up....and had a corresponding MSRP.......$57K+ :surprise:
For that kind of money, someone could get an A6, an E350, maybe even a Boxter (or, for a lot less, a really nice S4).
I'd be interested in seeing how long that car stays in their showroom. My 335i is 2 years old, loaded, and didn't cost anywhere near that amount. BMW has really jacked up their prices.
That said, the sales person said BMW has dumped a lot of cars on the dealership and they're offering sweet deals. Not in the market, but if you are, I would think this might be a good time to score a BMW, if you can score one of those $40K 328i versions.
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graphicguy - $57K is A LOT of money for a 3 series!
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Obviously if its the middle of a snow storm or something I would certainly give more.
As for eating out, I'm consistently a 20%+ tipper. It isn't that much more money and I feel that the servers work hard enough to justify it. In addition we frequent the same few places and good tips usually equals great service and sometime "freebies". If we get certain servers at the local diner who know us we usually don't pay for soda/coffee and instead give them the extra $$.
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None the less Michaell - you are on the right track, MB is getting away from the number representing the displacement of the engines. I guess a C180 just sounds too small?
The AMGs are all ready there, the E63 AMG has a 5.5L twin turbo mill under the hood...
Obviously if its the middle of a snow storm or something I would certainly give more.
I agree 100% with you. After 4 years, I think I've seen it all with regards to tipping your pizza delivery guy. So, nothing surprises (or bothers) me much. Each shift is different - Wednesday night I had 13 deliveries and two tips in excess of $10; last night only 6 deliveries and all tips were average in size.
As to your second statement, I've always believed that bad weather is good for business! I've only been stuck in the snow twice in my ION while delivering pizzas.
First was on Super Bowl Sunday 2011. In my town, the plows usually make one extra wide lane in the middle of residential streets, leaving large banks on either side of the road. I meant to turn into a driveway but got caught up in one of the snow banks and couldn't get out. Fortunately, some neighbors got me unstuck.
Second time was this past winter. Cul-de-sacs are at the bottom of the priority list for plowing, so naturally I got stuck in one. The teenaged kids of the house I delivered to pushed me to drier ground so I could get going.
It used to. Not anymore. They put 3.5L (circa) 250 hp into C300 now, C350 gets same size engine but extra 50hp+.
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Got a call back from the Director of Service/Parts this morning. After looking into the matter, he said he was going to order 6 injectors for the E350 immediately because if he doesn't do it right away, he will never have the car finished before Wednesday - if he orders the parts today, he will have them by Monday morning via FedEx. If Orlando doesn't have them, he said he will have them flown in overnight from one of the other large parts warehouses. He further stated that if they have not identified the injector causing the problem by Monday morning, he will replace all 6 injectors, whether Mercedes Pays for it or not!
That was nice to hear, to be sure! He said that you have to follow Mercedes Benz procedures to the letter - even call their tech center - prior to replacing all the injectors.
The leak doesn't mean that fuel is leaking "into" the cylinder - it means that their is a pressure leak in the injector causing back-flow of fuel so there isn't enough fuel delivered to that cylinder when starting after it is warmed up.
When I googled the issue, it appears that "timing" or the amount of time between when the engine is turned off after running for some time and then restarting it, is the issue here. After 15 minutes, the problem is not severe. After 20-25 minutes, it is problematic, but after 30-35 minutes, the car won't stall after restart. That is the symptom of the leaking injector - but now they have to identify which injector it is.
Their service department is open Saturday and Sunday, but they usually don't have heavy work done on weekends, but the service director told me they would have the shop foreman and the mechanic work on the car through the weekend with the fluorascope to identify the problem injector. He told me they are already in touch with Mercedes Tech Support regarding the issue.
I reminded him that I need a car to drive up to Jacksonville Wednesday morning, and he said I could have his dealer car (E350) to drive up and back in if they can't get my car finished. That was very nice of him to offer that.
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Oh, definitely.
There's a bar we go to occasionally that has great live music. We consistently over-tip there because they remember us. This means that if we wanted a table reserved for a great act, they'd do it. The owner will sometimes slip us "no cover" admission passes for an upcoming act that he thinks we'll like. And, we always get a good server and great service. We decided that we wanted to make ourselves the kind of customers they really WANT to see come through the door.
Not that other customers aren't - just that they know we're a guaranteed good tip. That's what I meant by the over-tipping for favors. It was the same at a local bar when I lived in St. Louis. It's the only place I went, and the bartenders were given a daily "freebie" allowance to give free drinks to whomever they wanted to. They usually used it on the good-tipping regulars, because they knew they'd get a bit extra. It's a symbiotic relationship.
Everywhere else, and delivery, is based on the place & the service.
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That is correct! The C350 has a 3.5 litre V6 engine, identical to the one in the E350, 302 horsepower and 278 torque. The C300 is only built with 4-matic, or all wheel drive - cannot get one with rear wheel drive only. That is why the C250 has become so poplular down here and out west - good performance, but does not have all wheel drive. I am getting 36 mpg on the highway with the C250, about 3 mpg better than I get in the E350.
The C300 is also 4 or 5 thousand dollars more than the C250. It's the interior room and small seats that I have difficulty with - I am 6'2" and weigh 245 - so I need much more support and much more room than the C class provides.
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But BMW didn't get where it is today by pandering to that clueless 98%.
C&D may not like it, but other reviewers think it is incredible that you are really getting 2 or 3 cars in one, everything from a comfortable highway cruiser, to a real sports car with supreme cornering and handling ability.
I'll agree that your statement would apply to the E9x M3, but not the F10 5er; when I drove it my son and I both remarked that it didn't seem to be as fast or to have as much grip as my Mazdaspeed 3- and that turned out to be true, at least based on CD's numbers. The 5er is now a sporty luxury car- and not a sports sedan. As Top Gear puts it, "It's not exciting, and it's not meant to be."
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Wranglers have that too -- the Jeep wave. Around town, only about 10% of people wave. Up in the Lake Tahoe area about 90% do. :shades:
I'd say it's 70%-80% in KY. My 2002 gets waves from other vintage import owners, which I really didn't expect- but it's fun nonetheless...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
But I agree with your idea, they are going with a bigger number since as everyone knows, size matters!
besides, BMW has been all over the place for a while with the 3 series (325/328/330)
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Just got a call from the dealership - they did order 6 replacement injectors for my E 350 and expect them to arrive Monday morning. They could not isolate which injector was leaking so they have to replace all 6. They said it is a very time consuming repair and hope to have the injectors installed and functioning by Monday evening. Then on Tuesday they have to make sure what they did fixed the problem.
Even though the oil was clean and not contaminated, the are going to replace the oil filter and change the oil anyway. They also told me that this was the first direct injection engine that they have encountered with this problem. Let's hope I have my car back by Tuesday.
I sure do miss my car!
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger