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This is a question which has come up before...will the manufacturers just reduce incentives to match the CFC money. Joel says they will not. I'm not sure.
I got my discount because Chrysler had $1000 customer cash AND $1-2000 in dealer cash. That made the deal fairly easy for the salesman. When I looked up the incentives here on Edmunds just now I noticed that the dealer cash was gone for July. This could mean that Edmunds just hasn't posted this incentive yet or it could mean just what you are saying--manufacturers are cutting marketing support in anticipation of the government money.
Only time will tell.
As for you vanishing taxpayers, my poor friends and I are waiting for the government to order you "rich" guys to put us up at your house. You have all those extra rooms that you aren't using and you want to be "fair"....don't you Comrade? :sick:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Now you've got me wondering. What kind of math is that? Canadian? :confuse:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
With the bank and insurance bail outs, the climate bill, the health care bill, the $250 stimulus checks, the cash for clunkers, the REEP bill requiring us to retrofit our homes once put up for sale, the on-going war in Asia, and the auto bail outs, just how much financial burden can the taxpayers shoulder? If you think that the American Revolution was a spectacular event, you have seen nothing yet!
Richard
Yes, $1 Cdn buys .85 cents U.S. With the exchange, interest, payments to convert, extra doc fees, mop and glo, insurance, dealer rust proof, tire insurance, extended warranty,
financing charges, etching,......my math is right on!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
As for police and their radar traps.... there is a small town near me with a Canadian Tire store. One police officer continually set up his trap beside one of the store's mobile sign boards. The store was tired of being accused of helping trap speeders. They changed the side opposite of where the officer parked to read: "slow down, cop on other side of this sign".
I have also noticed that the prices of used cars is climbing here in my area (South Western Ontario, Canada). GM has just run some ads that show up to a $8500 cash credit, but they don't tell you which models. The ad indicates that it's on Buicks and GMC. I still wouldn't buy one (I own Fords, Chryslers and Toyotas).
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Any payments that we advertise are also bi weekly, but we put in in normal print.
They're easier to swallow than monthly payments nowadays since average prices of vehicles are high.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
Has anyone ever told you your second career should be as a lawyer in the car biz? :P
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
That was funny!
Seriously though, Happy Indipendence Day, and be Happy if you can still celebrate.
Be thankful for all the good things in life, and for living in such a great country.
Put another hot dog on the grill for me.........
(For us it was a regular day, Canada Day was July 1st. but I took off work early, I like to celebrate for both countries, and I have lots of American friends and worked for a U.S. company for 16 years).
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Since you missed it or you were sleeping at the wheel again....
The Nissan Altima recieved first place for intial quality this year from JD Power
GP
Put another hot dog on the grill for me.........
I try to do that everyday and believe me, I have much to be thankful for. As for that wiener, I'll be at my brothers tomorrow and I'll do that for you. I'll also eat it but I'll be thinking of you while I do.
Happy Independence Day to everyone.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Well, unless it's Honda that's number one.
This is a bit off topic but since you sell Nissans I have a question for you.And since the 2004 Quest edmunds forums is very inactive..
I have an 04 Nissan Quest [ with all its well documented problems]. It has a steering wheel shimmy / shake present at all speeds- a constant left to right, to and fro shake/shimmy.This is a problem with most late model Nissan SUV`s and trucks,not sedans.The dealer replaced both the front pads and rotors but the shimmy is still present.
Do you know of any solution to this?If it is not the rotors then - is it the wheel balance problem or any other known problem? Have you seen any such issues at your dealership?Is there anything specific that has to be done like changing to a different set of non OEM tires or anything else like the popular Hunter970 road force balancing?
Would really appreciate your help.Thanks.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I always explain that our country was born out of a revolution.
Funny....yesterday I was listening to NPR while driving. Apparently, someone in the U.K. found an early edition of the Declaration of Independence in their archives. The host or interviewer was polite in asking the person responsible for these archives some fairly tame questions, until the end of the interview. At that point the interviewer said, "sorry that the July 4th holiday didn't turn our to well for those of you in the U.K."
The interview abruptly ended on that note!
I got a chuckle out of that.
May you have a safe and fun weekend with your friends and families!
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
This is a great place, isn't it? Everything will mean a lot more now. I know; that's what my grandparents told me.
Congratulations,
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Del,
My condolences to you.....
You remind me of a time I had forgotten. Back in 2004 The first Quest I ever sold came back in 3 weeks with a steering problem. It could have been lemon lawed but the customer was cool about it. Anyway they had to replace the whole steering system.... I myself quiver when ever someone mentions the Quest because of the 2004 year model..... I guess you have to give them a break... It was a new manudacfturing plant with new workers and anything that could go wrong went wrong. I even still quiver when someone wants to look at a quest.
I wish I had better answers... the only thing I can suggest is trade it in when there are some incentives to do so. Buy a Altima!!!
GP
I have a British gal in my Summer class and she informs me that "If it weren't for us, you wouldn't have a fourth of July!" Of course, I thanked her for such a wonderful gift.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Congratulations,
Thanks. It sure is. I'm even looking forward to jury duty at the end of july. And I already voted for the first time.
So, our calendars would have gone right from the 3rd to the 5th? :confuse:
I didn't have the heart to tell her that we actually got July from the Roman Julius Caesar for whom the month is named.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Welcome to the great melting pot. When My great grandfather came here in the 1800s he saw signs that said "Help Wanted--No dogs or Irish need apply". Still this country offered him enough opportunity so that his family prospered to the point where I was able to enjoy today with my Polish-German-Ukaranian in-laws.
The USA isn't perfect but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
My wife and I were in a July 4th parade this morning. As we waved our flags and greeted people along the parade route, I couldn't help but have a full heart and a feeling of great pride. There are many wonderful places to live throughout the world, and many wonderful people who live in other countries. They, like us, are truly blessed if they can live and work in a free nation.
Congratulations to you.
Richard
Damn, nobody should have to endure that. And all this time I thought I had it bad with half of that stuff. :surprise:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
P0190019 - My 1970 Fleetwood Brougham
F8314065 - My 1968 DeVille Convertible
I havent even seen the Fleetwood for 20 years (it's long gone).
LOL. Thanks all.
Funny, this is post July 4th OT banter, but I was watching one of my favorite movies last night....GHANDI.
While I was watching, it struck me that for the last 250 years, the British Empire hasn't had much luck with keeping the "empire" together.....no matter how hard they tried.
First, the colonies, then India, then Hong Kong. They've been throwing up a bunch of goose eggs in relatively recent history.
Or are you replacing "To Be Continued..." with "Yet To Be Told..."?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Had a repeat customer call me cause he wanted to switch out of his compact car and into a small SUV cause he "needs the space". He said he wanted it so that he can go camping. He's a single older guy so to me it didn't really seem like he needed an SUV but, that's not for me to decide. He wanted an SUV I will be there to assist him.
The car he was trading in was bought used a year ago from me and financed at a high interest rate because of his past credit issues. The payments were very small and the car very reliable, so once again he didn't really need to change it. Before he came in I tried to tell him to pay down his loan a bit more or have money down, but he had nor wanted to do any of those.
Anyways we get a good pre approval at half the rate he was paying, so he comes in, we look at some vehicles and he picks one.
We do the numbers and there's about $5k of negative equity that needs to pe put onto the new loan. I come back and serve payments which were about $80/month more than what he wanted to spend, and about $230 more than waht he was currently paying on his car.
He looks at them, does some calculations in his head, thinks about it some more. He says to me:
"It's little bit more than what I wanted to spend, but I like the car. I think I'll go for it"
He then says to me with a sigh:
"Ok, I'll get it, but the car payment will have to be a priority over food. I should be ok in the summer months when I have the second part time job, but for 6 months in winter time I'll be a bit poor" :surprise:
I thought he was joking at first so I laughed, but he wasn't. I told him that if he was going to be "poor" then he'll need to wait for a used version of his SUV to come in, or he's going to have to stick with his current car for now.
He said not to worry about it as he has a lot of overtime coming to him. He does make good money at his very secure job.
When I told my sales manager that, he said he doesn't want to sell him a car then. I came back and told the customer again, that he's gotta make sure that he can afford the payments or we'll find him another car. I told him to take as much time as he needs. He said he just wanted this car, and he'd like to take delivery of it right away.
Finally the deal was done and he did take delivery that day.
But I was just shocked how some people will put things like a new car ahead of necessities like money in the bank or in this case food on the table. Or even ahead of having some financial freedom and not living paycheck to paycheck. Maybe to some a new car means more freedom than cash in the bank, but then his previous car wasn't all that bad or old anyways.
I see it all the time though. People with negative equity trading into something bigger, newer and more expensive. When I serve them payments, right away they will talk themselves into being able to afford that vehicle without me having to convince them. Then you see folks driving around in new cars, not being able to afford to put gas in the tank :sick:
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Man, you people in Canada are NICE! Some of the car lots I've been to down here I had the feeling that if I dropped dead in the parking lot they would go through my pockets for loose change and steal my shoes.
Of course, you know that if you didn't sell that guy his car he would have gone down the street and got it there.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
What a sad pathetic story, but interesting. It is interesting to see how some people manage their life. I still cannot get over how people are more concerned with the monthly payment, than the actual cost of the car, and then they wonder why they have negative equity.
I wonder how many cars you would sell if the big print says just $100 a month, and the small print says over 240 months.
Thanks for the insight!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
It seems that this kind of thinking isn't just limited to the USA. It's gotta be a continent thing. :confuse:
I can't even begin to think like that but that's just me I guess.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Add me to those who can't believe it.
boomcheck, you're a good guy. Looking forward to the next 3.
Probably a ton more!!! It seems like some people don't even care how long they'll be paying for the car. They just want instant gratification every 6 months.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
Yeah it must be common wherever there's a lot of freely accessible credit.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
And, until recently, that has been more or less universal.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I mentioned a few posts back, I went to my brothers for July 4 th. I found out just before I got there that a retired cousin of ours from Florida just happened to be in town and was invited over also. No sooner did we say hello, he says, “I hear you bought a Genesis” (Son #1 told him about this back in March). He’s the cousin who liked my 05’ XG 350 and was going to look at the 07’ Azera but said his wife didn’t like the idea of telling people they bought a Hyundai so they bought an Avalon instead. My agitator Son said, when he mentioned that he wanted to test drive it, “don’t do it. You won’t like the drive back to Florida in your Avalon if you do”. He insisted, so I let him drive it. I didn’t go but his wife did and so did my Son. My Son was sure to point out all the high points and there are a few. Well, he hands the key back to me (really a proximity thingy) and says, “I’ll definitely look into one of these in a year” and his wife says, “yeah, we should”. My son says, “we heard that before” and he says, “this time I mean it”. My Son says, “you mean it makes a big enough statement even though it’s a Hyundai”. Couz says, “I really like the ride and everybody knows they aren’t cheap”. Now I think he’s serious.
Since things come in bunches, just today a few guys were walking the parking lot (it was a great day for a lunch time stroll) and one stops to look at my car and says to the others, “this looks like a pretty nice car”. One of the other guys tells him it’s mine. As soon as they get back from their walk he comes over to me and says, “they must be paying you consultants a ton”. I said why, “you weren’t worried when I was driving my other Hyundais, nothings changed. I’m the same ole jmonroe you’ve known for years”. Believe me this guy is paid pretty well and he’s damn good at what he does but has always judged others.
Like I said, I figured this was going to happen sooner or later but I can’t stop doing what I want because some people will now judge me differently.
It’s pretty sad when people can’t be happy with what they have and are always looking at others.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I kind of drifted away for a while and I am way to busy at work to read this forum so this is the first time I have dropped in.
Who has bought what? Who moved to what store?
I see Jmonroe bought a Genesis not really a surprise to me.
Who else bought interesting new cars?
Good to hear from you again. If you tell us what you've been selling maybe a buyer or two will give you the answers you're after.
You oughta know there ain't no such thing as a "free lunch". You probably know more than you should already.
Stick around,
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl