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Rocky
Rocky
Chevrolet-value vehicles
Saturn-seems to be just a little uplevel from Chevrolet but brings in buyers from outside GM.
Pontiac/Buick/GMC-performance cars/premium cars/premium trucks
Cadillac/Hummer/Saab-Luxury performance/outrageous off road/European premium
Hey, that is what I get out of it. The only one I get confused about is the Chevrolet vs. Saturn. Walking all over each other except there are a lot of buyers that would consider Saturn and not Chevrolet.
Shannon should not have used the word relevent. It confused me. He will get a little spanking later. PR needs to give a better worded story for why Buick is losing sales. It came out in the 2nd part but it was a bit late. Less fleet, higher contented/cost vehicles, fewer models, less overlap with other divisions, more profit per vehicle.
It is longer than a Rendezvous, carries the same amount of people as the Terazza and looks like a SUV.
Wow! And all in a Premium bee-utiful body :shades:
Wouldn't you agree that Saturn is more along the lines of the Japanese like Honyota ?
Rocky
Rocky
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061129/BUSINESS01/611290368/10- 14
Rocky
Are those the separate store groups they're hoping to end up with eventually?
Chev only
PBG together in one store
CHSLE in one store?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Cadillac, Hummer, Saab, Now what the heck
is L & E :confuse:
Rocky
I won't have known either. I should have written that one out. I'm sorry.
I see my previous paste from 62 didn't work right.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Rocky
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
BPG as one. Chevy and Saturn as one. Cadillac and Saab as one.
That is wishful thinking though.
Rocky
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Rocky
The Cadillac/Saab/Hummer will take awhile.
Rocky
Anyone know if they will make this retro active for us earlier buyers.?
That makes me think of my friend's old 1998 Tracker. He bought it new, and thankfully it had a 5/60 warranty instead of the typical 3/36. It went in for a transmission "overhaul", which I guess sounds better than "rebuild" right around 20,000 miles. And again at 40,000. And believe it or not, again just before 60,000!
The 60K rebuild seemed to hold a bit longer, though. Around 86,000 miles it lost all its gears one morning. We took it to a local tranny place that's done some work for me, and they got it going again for about 60 bucks, but couldn't guarantee how long it would last. Around 92,000 it started to go again. The dealer just got wishy washy and said that it could run between $1000-3000 to fix. The tranny place was too busy to mess around with it this time around.
I ended up taking a chance and called around looking for used ones. Found one for about $680 at a local wrecking yard, off a 1995 Suzuki with 55,000 miles. They delivered it to a repair shop just down the street from them, and that place put it in for about $400.
Interestingly, that transmission was still going strong at 134,000 miles, when my buddy traded it on an '06 Xterra. I always wondered if, while the thing was under warranty, the dealer just did the bare minimum to get the thing to last beyond the warranty period. Seemed kinda strange that it would fail so regularly like that.
Now this is all in 6 months..
I was reading about the 100k warrenty, and it looks like the warrenty is for the Powertrain, NOT bumper-2-bumper (I read the fine print). The b2b is still 3/36k, so if your radio stops working after the 3yr / 36k your up snits creek without your paddle (and yes I have snits creek runnning through my backyard, so there is a real thing).
Odie
Odie's Carspace
Buicks and Cadillacs have 4 year, 50,000 mile bumper to bumper and other divisions are 3 year 36,000 miles
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=amecW6rnhgxc&refer=worldwide- _news
Although Buick has offered as many as seven models in recent years, Wagoner said GM was prepared to accept lower unit sales with about four models in order to try to capture more showroom traffic and shun lower-margin sales to car rental companies.
"In the end we're going to let it flow. But what we're going to do is to make sure we make three and then four really good (Buick models)," Wagoner told reporters.
GM has been pushing dealerships to consolidate into stores that offer its GMC trucks along with Buick and Pontiac models.
Wagoner said that push combined with the success of Buick in China would help turn the brand around in the U.S. market, where it has struggled to attract a younger generation of buyers.
"We've had a terrific run in China with Buick," he said. "Buick sells to the upper crust in China. That's going to open up some opportunities over time for product sharing that we wouldn't have had or even thought of five years ago."
Then again maybe the 4rth model will come from China?
By using this sophisticated hybrid technology, the Vue Green Line 2-mode Hybrid is expected to deliver up to a 45-percent improvement in combined city and highway fuel economy compared with the non-hybrid Vue, based on current federal test procedures.
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gm- news/viewpressreldetail.do?domain=2&docid=30889
In 2007, the GM Hybrid system will expand to the Saturn Aura Green Line and Chevrolet Malibu front-wheel-drive midsize sedans.
In 2007, the 2-mode hybrid system will debut in the Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon full-size SUVs. Rear-wheel and four-wheel drive will be offered.
In 2008, the 2-mode hybrid system will expand to the Cadillac Escalade full-size SUV and the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra crew cab full-size pickups. The Escalade will offer all-wheel drive, while the Silverado and Sierra will offer rear-wheel and four-wheel drive.
In 2008, the first front-wheel-drive application of the 2-mode hybrid system, will debut – without plug-in technology – in the Vue Green Line. The Vue Green Line will offer customers a choice of the GM Hybrid system or the 2-mode hybrid system.
In 2009, an electric all-wheel-drive, 2-mode hybrid system will be introduced in the Vue Green Line.
http://gmtv.feedroom.com/ifr_main.jsp?nsid=a62bb1020:10f366534bd:1689&st=1164851- 111040&mp=WMP&cpf=true&fvn=9&fr=042606_052434_3b99bbc2x10ad7e73331x26e4&rdm=8518- 42.9266254475
I noted that my friend that is picking up his new chevvy 3/4 diesel Dec 3 has paid quite a bit more than I did... I suspect GM just included the NEW warranty INTO the price... To kick up the warranty when I bought was as I recall about $2400.. and that's about the difference is our two prices on what seems to be comparable trucks.
Why do you say their might be a Velite pal ?
I wasn't able to pull that story without filling out some sort of a subscription.
You think that 4th model could be the Velite ?
I can only pray.....
Rocky
Man Rick, has had a rough week, eh ?
Rocky
Rocky
Really tough to compare 2 different branded vehicles to each other. Many details effect price and even a well thought out analysis will be tough to be assured it is correct.
Heck, a Chevy is worth about $2500 more than a Ford any day.
Honestly I do not know what the 4rth model is. I would guess that Buick wants either a very nice 2 or 4 door 4 seater convertible or a more upscale 4 door above the Lucerne.
That sounds logical. Man a Velite Hardtop Convertible would be the perfect automobile for me. I'd have a constant grin ear to ear if GM, had the guts to make em' for me.
Rocky
Rocky
consortium of investors led by Cerberus FIM Investors, LLC. This is a
significant transaction for both GM and GMAC, and one that will provide
benefits for all involved parties. GM expects to receive approximately $14
billion from the equity sale over three years, and will retain a 49-percent
stake in GMAC. This marks yet another important milestone in funding our
turnaround, financing future growth initiatives and strengthening GM’s
balance sheet.
This transaction will result in a stronger GMAC, with enhanced access to
funding at lower costs and greater opportunities for growth, including
leveraging their traditionally strong relationships with GM dealers.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=117780
Rocky
Now that's just what I remember!!! I might be suffering a big of CRS ya know..
Rocky
I'd rather say wait until the new crossovers go on sale.
The Aura will steal sales from none other than GM's other sedans. Check this out:
Saturn Aura: 4,279
Pontiac G6: 10,925 down 23% from 14,175 of Nov '05