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went for some supper called tow truck, while waiting with the inlet line still disconnected, i tried starting and gas started pouring out?, so i connected fuel line to filter and it started no problem drove it home.
Next day started no problem, drove around town, came home shut it off, and wouldn't restart, this time poured gas in throttle body and still wouldn't even start this time, "scratching head"
check all fuses, replaced relay, disconnected fuel line and re tried, no fuel coming out...
Left for a few days, went out tried to start started right up, tried 3 times then wouldn't start with or with gas in throttle body, i have ordered a new pump, and have changed fuel filter, just not sure why it all works one day then nothing, what really gets me is it will crank over know but seems to be getting no spark and no fuel, even pouring gas in throttlebody wont run, hmmm
Any help would sure be nice.
thanks
laney
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=939145
complete tune up
new battery
TWO new fuel pumps within weeks of each other
new center port fuel injectors ? or something like that
STILL stalls. Today it failed smog ONLY because " fuel evaporative controls functional" area failed The smog guy told me gas vapors are leaking.
HELP! I need my car for my kiddos and am soo lost on what needs to be done and no mechanic knows how to fix. THANKS!!! :sick:
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
My '91 would stall after 15 minutes of driving. I pulled the codes and it said something like "engine temp. was at 32 degrees" or some [non-permissible content removed].
I replaced the temp sending unit to the the computer (not the gauge nor light) and all was solved.
What was happening was when the car got up to temp. the Computer temp. sender would shut it down. That was just my situation.
To sum it up...don't throw money at it until you've pulled the codes.
jon
Thanks for any and all advise! I really appreciate it!
Its a 4.3 4x4
It will shut off while driving with no check engine light and it will do it sitting at a light. :mad: :lemon:
I bought a gauge with screw on fitting at a Napa, or Adv. Auto.
Check the fuel pressure real quick next time it dies.
My wife's 2000 just up and died. Towed it home...replaced filter. Nothing.
Then bought the guage. It told me 4 lbs pressure. Got a fuel pump assy. with sender from a junkyard for $100. (I had already dropped the tank and replaced the bad sender once.)
Replaced fuel pump assy and all is good.
Sometimes these pumps can be intermittant (especially on the older cars...you rap on the metal tank with a block of wood and it'll start and run for awhile).
Guage setup/location:
I tested the junkyard pump and sender in this fashion before installing in tank:
Guage and pump check fine:
When I first start the Jimmy it fires right up. While driving the engine runs great,and even better now with all the new parts. I park it then try to re-start it. It only cranks and does not fire back up. I could drive it for hours,but when I stop and shut it off. It will not start back up. It will start again if I wait for 20 or 30 min. When I shut it off after that,still no start up,just cranks.
I have so far replaced,the fuel pump,fuel filter,the map censor,the crank censor,EGR valve,air filter,all plugs,all wires,the whole distributor assembly,and the oil. I took off the coil,and the ingintion module. I brought them to autozone and had them run a test on them. All checked out fine. During the problem I checked for spark. There is spark,but still will not start up. The timing is great.This is the EDI ignition. Can't adjust the timing after the installation of the distributor.
Can't figure this one out. Anyone on here had this same problem? The check engine light never has turned on. Is there a part in the fuel system that heats up that will cause it not to restart? It will start and run fine in wet weather too. Will not restart after warm up.
Thank you for any help you may be able to help with.
kenney for Edgar
197 of 197 2001 GMC Jimmy Starts great,but will not restart after warm up. by nickjax Jun 26, 2009 (11:00 am)
2001 GMC Jimmy/4.3L Vortec/4X4.
When I first start the Jimmy it fires right up. While driving the engine runs great,and even better now with all the new parts. I park it then try to re-start it. It only cranks and does not fire back up. I could drive it for hours,but when I stop and shut it off. It will not start back up. It will start again if I wait for 20 or 30 min. When I shut it off after that,still no start up,just cranks.
Can't figure this one out. Anyone on here had this same problem? The check engine light never has turned on. Is there a part in the fuel system that heats up that will cause it not to restart? It will start and run fine in wet weather too. Will not restart after warm up.
One thing I replaced once was the temp. sender to the COMPUTER.... NOT the sender to the temp. gauge/light. It was inexpensive ($10-$12? @ Autozone).
Once the truck was up to temperature..the Computer temp. sensor/sender was telling the computer to not let the truck re-start.
That solved my problem when the truck would not restart after getting up to temp.
Just wanted to thank you for letting me know this. I have forwarded it back home
and maybe that will solve the mistery.
thanks again.
kenneyg.
Thanks Everyone!!
We had to replace the central port fuel injectors. Twice. Once last month, and once about 5 years ago. It runs good now, we shall see!
Two things I can think of at little to no extra costs...
1)Replace Temp. sensor/sender to the computer...NOT the sender to the guage. Inexpensive part to replace. Shop around...NAPA, Advance, etc., for best price.
2)Idle Control Valve (ICV). Clean it...may be sticking or STUCK in the "cold" position??
I hate throwing parts at a car hoping to solve the problem.
Hope I helped?
jonny
A??: I'm no fuel injection expert, but when you step on the gas pedal, you are actually opening the throttle plate (the butterfly valve directly attached to your gas pedal via a cable)....which let's in a large amount of air (oxygen). So when you "step on it" and it "bogs"...it appears that it is not getting the increased fuel necessary to mix with the increased air you are letting in?
So why is it not getting the increased fuel needed?
First check your fuel pressure at the fuel rail (I covered that with photos in an earlier post).
If the fuel pressure is good (60lbs?? I forget..look at the photo) then it sounds like an electronic problem.
Attached to the side of the throttle body (right next to the butterfly throttle plate) is a little electronic box called the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS). It has some wires that run from it....into the engine wiring harness and ultimately to the Engine's computer/brain/Electronic Control Unit (ECU).
This friggin' TPS thingy is supposed to tell the computer the position of the throttle plate and regulate (tell the computer/brain/ECU) the added fuel needed for the increased air added?
This TPS might be the problem? It may be bad? ( Lightly rap/tap on the TPS with the handle of a screwdriver to see if it "jars" it back into working order?) Or, the TPS may be good and the area in computer/brain/ ECU linked to the TPS bad? (That would require a NEW or Used "Junkyard" ECU).
I'm sure the TPS is less expensive than the ECU.
As I stated, I'm no expert, but do know a little bit and this makes sense to me. Or I may be the blind leading the blind?
Let me/us know how you make out
if andwhen you solve the problem. I personally would like to know.jon
8-)
God I strongly dislike Fuel Injection when it malfunctions and you need to have equipment to pull codes and what not!
Nothin' better than a good ol' simple carburetor , IMO.
Oh, I didn't know it was an intermittent problem...I thought it was permanent and wouldn't drive...just idle.
This "high pitch" sound...is this all the time or just when it "bogs"?
Sure, change the filter..can't hurt.
Still it could be "intermittent" as far as the TPS/ECU are concerned.
Change filter and see if it cure's it. Filter should be located inside frame rail, drivers side, forward of tank= simple and quick change.
If that doesn't do it...check fuel pressure= that'll determine the pumps' status.
If all that is good.. look into TPS "tapping on it" and/or replacing it.
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"another problem is starting after driving it and shutting it off after about 15 minutes it starts hard it turns over about 7 times and starts but, in the morning after sitting it starts right up. whats your thoughts on this ?"
Fuel system VAPOR LOCK. I don't know how to fix this yet..google it.
I have the identical problem on an '86 BMW 535i Dirt Ralleye car. When I beat on it hard....it doesn't wanna start until it cools down. Haven't researched it yet.
jon
Only 76k on this vehicle.
So you have spark but no fuel.
Pressure test fuel= pump/pump relay/filter
Turned out to be the temp. sensor to the brain. Once it got up to temp., the sensor wouldn't let the thing fire up again.
My .02 cents
have replaced... fuel pump, catilatic converter, o2 sensor, map sensor, egr valve, fuel filter,
acts as if it is electrical when motor warms up... but am running out of ideas and money... sincerily, the money pit
please help!!!!
Temp. sensor/sender to ECU/Brain may be bad (mine did exact thing)...not sensor/sender to temp. light/gauge.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Turned out to be the ignition switch. Since replaced the car has not died.
On a '97? I don't know.
There are 2 water temp. sensors.
1)On my '91 V6 4.3L (throttle-body injection), the gauge sender/sensor was on the pass. side of the engine right below the forward 2 spark plugs.
2)The ECU/Brain sensor (the one you may wanna replace) was located front and center on top of the engine next to the goose neck (where the upper radiator hose enters the engine).
Now I just looked on my wife's 2000 (4.3L with fuel injectors, not T-body injection)...and it could be right next to the goose neck as well, however, if it is, it is HUGE.....much larger than the older 4.3L.
Anyone know what could possibly be wrong?
Have 65psi (fuel) when cranking, have spark at plug wires on cylinders 1 & 2. I have no codes on code reader while cranking.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you.