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I promptly walked out. And I will be going to another dealer tomorrow. Unfortunately in Canada we do not have ED .
Also USA MSRP is about 15 percent cheaper than Canadian MSRP. A Canadaian buying in the USA may save 15 percent but unfortuatley that is not practical due to warranty issues and duty costs. :mad:
If I cant get a reasonable deal on the 335i then I am just going to have to defer my car purchase (and my purchase may not be a BMW--Hint the new upcoming generation of Audi A4s in 2008).
So you folks in the USA dont feel too bad if you dont get great deals for the 335i. At least you are paying 15 percent less than what I would be paying.
Anyhow, I don't buy or lease a car without some sort of discount. Although this is a very nice car, there aren't many cars in this world that are worth paying full MSRP price, including this BMW 335i Coupe, imho. Anyhow, after some negotiating, I was finally offered $2,000 off MSRP on this vehicle and I'm just trying to figure out what works best for me. With the current MF though, even with a few thousand down, it's still around $800/mo. for such a high-mileage lease. I tried the MSD thing, but it didn't really lower the montly pmt. that much.
Bottom line...if you want this car, don't give up. Call around to other dealers; if you don't get a decent discount off MSRP, you probably will in a month or two.
dewey...buy a minivan for the family. That's what I did and I ordered my 335i Coupe here in Belgium, Fully Loaded
Spt Pkg
Prm Pkg
Nav System
Paddle Shifters
Automatic
Comfort Access
Heated Front Seats
Rear PDC
$44790 out the door!
Delivered in Dec so weather may be a factor, but I can't wait to get it on these European Roads!
And sometimes a one year or more waiting list for medical tests/treatments where some patients die while waiting(except for the lucky ones who have some influence with bureaucats and doctors). And there are quite a few Canadians going to USA for medical treatments and tests spending their own out of pocket money.
So yes I would rather stay alive by paying for health insurance and at the same time save BIG $$$ on a BMW335i
Lucky you! Unfortunately my wife likes minivans almost as much as I do.
44790 out the door?
Let me tell you mine converted into current US$ currency:
47900 US $ with sport package and metallic paint.
With taxes, floor mats and all the rest 57600 US $ (64,000 CDN $)
OUCH!!!!
I got a four percent discount( I know it is nothing to boast about but it was best I could do among various dealers).
My options were :
1)the sport package
2)sparking graphite metallic colour.
Meet me over in "The future of the manual transmission forum" so I can kick your butt.
Best Regards,
Shipo
I do feel at home here with the few "diehard three pedal fans".
Two out of the three dealers I had visited did not have a manual 335i coupe tester. Fortunately the first dealer I had visted had one with a stick. I read the new X5 3.0 will no longer be offered with a manual tranny. I just hope this will not be a new trend for other BMW models.
Ending November will be my delivery date. My sales rep sounded quite definite about the delivery date. The last time I did not buy a car from the lot was when I ordered a 99 BMW323i. In that case there was no uncertainty or delays with the delivery date.
What makes you doubtful about your mid Oct. delivery date?
DL
thanks
dl17265 I was shopping for a 3 series wagon and if there was a twin turbo wagon then I would definitely choose one.
Hey BMW, keep it around 3000 lbs curb weight, and offer it with LSD, cloth seats, no stereo, no air conditioning, and hand-crank windows.
I'm thinking $29,900 is a fair price...
But I think BMW has a mistaken notion that N. Americans will automatically reject a wagon/hatchback.
This notion of theirs is definitely influenced by their scarred memories of the BMW 318i hatchback in N. America.
I wish they would look instead at the relative success of the Audi A3.
For the record though, I would also be happy with a similarly equipped (and priced) 235i coupe.
Thanks
The fact of the matter is that even 15,000 miles is conservative for these engines. That having been said, I certainly don't expect you to believe me. If you really want to know how long your engine can go between oil changes, spend the $40 to get your oil analyzed at say 7,500 miles. I have little doubt that the scientific results will support BMWs claim that the car can go a full 15,000 miles.
Counterpoint: As I'm less than thrilled with certain aspects (primarily internal engine cleanliness) of the BMW/Castrol oil allegedly used in the factory and by all BMW dealers, I adopted a 7,500 mile OCI (using Mobil 1 0W-40 for the replacement oil) for my 530i.
Best Regards,
Shipo
you're two months ahead of me and I cant wait.
I agree with Shipo. I have no intention of having an oil service before 15,000 miles. I myself cant understand the underlying logic for a first 500 mile oil change?
Front chrome grille with chrome plated kidney bars
Side window frame trim chrome
Front air scoop grille with titanium cross bar
Split single exhaust tips, chrome
One other break in recommendation I got, which I was told should apply to ALL high performance cars/engines: Avoid short hops during break in. For my 911, I was told, "don't start the car, unless you are going to drive for 20+ minutes". The idea during break in is to allow the engine oil and parts to reach full operating temperature, stay there for a period of time, and then cool off. This allows for full expansion and contraction of all parts, seals, etc. In my car there is an oil temperature guage to help determine when it's fully warmed up. The water temperature guage rises much more quickly and is NOT a good indicator. Although I have not seen this specific break-in recommendation in the owners manual for my 911 or previous S2000, every high-performance expert/mechanic I've talked to agrees.
Enjoy your car. Glad to hear you got the right (manual) transmission!
My 335i is $44790 (not Euro). No taxes (I'm exempt from that here) so I know it's an awesome deal which is why I pulled the trigger. After driving it on the Autobahn however, it's going to be odd once I get back to the states and have to drive 75MPH or less.
My first time in my 530i back here in the States was rather unsettling as well. Without even thinking about it I merged onto the Garden State Parkway extension headed for the New York Thruway, and as I was approaching a spot routinely staked out by a State Trooper I happened to glance at my Speedometer. Yikes! I was doing 120! It took a very conscious effort over the course of several weeks to break my AutoBahn habit. ;-)
Best Regards,
Shipo
Does the trunk mounted CD changer support MP3 CDs?
Thanks!
Sorry I cant help. I guess a BMW dealership is the place to go for an answer.
Good luck.
i'm guessing you took european delivery for 335 sedan.
can u tell me how long this whole procedure took and what was configuration of your car.
Actually, the same thing happens to GS300. A friend of mine bought GS300 a year ago, now there is GS350.
Don't feel too bad about your case. The only thing that you are missing is bragging rights.
I am waiting until 2008 for any new car purchase. Luck me :P
2008 Nissan Skyline GTR, 2008 M3 sedan, and 2009 540i are all awesome cars to wait for
Rampant Horsepower inflation will continue for the next few years in the sport sedan segment and sooner than later my BMW335i will be considered a slow lane car.
Slow lane car :confuse: Don't think 335i is going to be a slow car for next couple of years
Plus, you can only put so much horsepower in a car without suspension upgrade due to the weight increase. No one wants a car that can only go straight, and will not turn. I think American Classic, Road Runner, was one of those.
I'm annoyed, to say the least. They want me to come pick up my new car and I'm seriously considering telling them to stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. I don't like liars and I'm not sure I want to do business with them.
The one thing I'm not sure about, though, is the price increase (in real terms) year over year. In other words, is a new 335i actually more in the range of $5K assuming I got Edmunds pricing on my car (about $39K with premium, sport, sunshade, satellite radio and a manual transmission) or is the difference just a couple of grand? Anyone know? (I'm talking about a sedan, btw)
Here is the link to my original post.
stl540, "BMW 5-Series Sedans" #8770, 18 Apr 2004 6:03 pm
Look at it this way you still have a advantage on the 328I. Resale did not suffer on my 323I and I doubt it will on yours.
DL
fwiw, my E90 used 1 quart exactally at 7500 and 14K, Again "within spec" :confuse:
DL
Same thing happened to me when I bought my E46 323i. Despite this I still loved my 323i.
Also when I bought my 89 Integra within months a brand new generation with a more potent engine was introduced. Despite this I still loved my 89 Integra.
The key question is did you love your car when you picked it up at the dealership. And if you did then never ever look back with regret. (almost sounds like marriage)
I never get my info from a sales rep. Always from magazines and the internet. And even those two sources are not alway accurate.
I would also be angry with your sales rep. :mad:
Seven, actually. And, during that time, the base Boxster has gone from 199 to 225 to 240 to 245 horsepower. And the Boxster S from 252 to 258 to 280 to 295. And the virtually unchanged S2000 still competes very effectively.
I can sympathize with someone who just bought a 330i without knowing that the 335i was around the corner. But I don't think anyone should feel too bad about owning a 330i. What makes it better than virtually all of it's competitors is handling and overall driving dynamics, not 0-60 times and stop light drag racing. That hasn't changed.
I started a thread "has AMG gone nuts", because these horsepower wars certainly have. What kind of "more money than brains" idiot would buy an R63 - essentially a 500+ hp mini-van? In the case of a C43 becoming a C32 becoming a C55, becoming a C99... AMG has to tout horsepower and straight line performance, because a C55 doesn't handle as well, nor is as fun to drive, as a 10 year old measly 240 hp M3.
Those that have them should enjoy their 330i for the great car it is.
Overall, car companies are constantly upgrading features and engines. That way, they can interest you in leasing or buying a new car even if your car is perfectly fine. I thought about the 300 hp 335i as I was sitting in traffic (as usual). Nice to have, but what am I going to do with it? I don't drag race at stoplights.
My only problem is the fact that I know the dealer was withholding information. I did research magazines and stuff. They universally said that the car was amazing, they rated it world car of the year, and they helped convince me to buy the car. I'm still going to buy it and I'm glad I got in when I did even though I am mad at the salesman. That is no way to build a clientele and next time I'll probably go somewhere else unless they really do something to make me believe they are not sheisters.