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2007 Suzuki SX4
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Suzuki has officially pissed me off. They shouldn't have announced September if it wasn't true. And it's not. Having the base model only does not qualify as available.
Another thing that's weird is how the California tour stopped only in a few small towns. Every big city in the state was skipped. What in the world could Suzuki marketing folks be thinking..
If only stripped base models will be available until winter, that makes it less likely I'll buy one because I may not want to wait that long for my next car.
As someone posted before, I'm kind of disappointed that the SX4 will be even shorter than the Aerio, reducing the length of the cargo area.
I've owned a 2004 Aerio SX (wagon) AWD for approaching 2 years. I'm rather skeptical of the fuel economy and downsized engine for the new SX4. I generally get 21-22 mpg (mix of city and 55-65 mph hwy). In the winter I've seen as low as 19 mpg, and even on exclusive highway trips I get a measley 22-23 mpg.
The hp and torque numbers LOOK impressive, but on the Aerio AWD they only yield average acceleration. The SX4 will be heavier with less hp and torque...
I have enjoyed my Aerio in many ways, but with the unimpressive fuel economy and average performance I've experienced (and given the awful resale value of Aerios), I'm strongly considering a Scion xB which has traction control and stability control to help make up for the lack of AWD, will likely get 30mpg, and will also have far better resale value.
I'm sure the SX4 will end up costing more than the Aerio, so an xB will end up being a few thousand cheaper (unless SX4's are launched with rebates).
If the fuel economy of the SX4 is in the low 20s on the highway, I will have to take it off my shopping list also. I don't need AWD that bad.
I think a LOADED '06 Aerio SX AWD w/ premium package stickers for about $17,300.
I wonder if AWD will be offered with a manual transmission this time. In that case, add $1000 for automatic transmission... and I think I read that cruise control is going to be tacked onto a package that will add another $1400+.
We'll see!
Unless pricing changes before launch, it seems a loaded model (SX4 Sport AWD automatic) will list at $17,399. So that's basically the same as the current loaded Aerio, but the SX4 includes traction control, electronic stability program, rear disc brakes, keyless START and larger wheels/tires.
I was wrong earlier about the cruise control only being available in some costly package. You can also get it in a package with leather wrapped steering wheel and steering wheel controls.
If you can do without the upgraded stereo, automatic climate control, fog lamps (none of these are important to me), traction control and electronic stability program, you can get an automatic for $16,299.
It seems that the SX4 will be an even better value than the Aerio was (unless a loss of cargo area and engine size/power) is really important to you. Hopefully resale value can improve.
I think it's unlikely the SX4 will get over 25 on the hwy unless you keep speeds under 65 mph. My Aerio's fuel economy has made me very skeptical.
on an other note, i am already disappointed with suzuki dealers...one did not even know what i was talking about when i sent an email asking about the arrival of the sx4, she said, "aerio sx????" then the other one never even reply to me!!!!
the 1st one apologize after i sent her the SUZUKI link to the car (DUH!!!!) and said she would send me infos..that was 2 weeks ago, nothing yet?!
so far, the chevy dealers have been the best as for customer service, helpful without being pushy.
for ppl looking at awd, the vibe and matrix always got good comments and reviews but it might be a bit more than 18k...it,s all depending on the needs and budget i guess!
I had the chance to test drive a scion xB this summer, both auto and stick and it is a very nice car IMO, TONS OF ROOM. and comes with a lot of goodies! gets great gas mileage too. on the scion xB discussion, ppl are extremely pleased with it, as well as the xA. both cars where the "cheapest cars to own" (or something meaning that) here at edmunds.
1. The Suzuki dealer in my area is not up to my standard for car dealers. Sales, service, and support are all lacking.
2. I test drove the Aerio SX and found the acceleration lacking despite the 2.3L engine. (I loved the cargo space, though.)
3. Cargo space in the SX4 is unacceptable. I have to have lots of cargo space.
4. I need a new car immediately. Finding out that the loaded SX4 would not be available in September was the last straw.
I know the SX4 would have been a lot of fun. I am certainly going to test drive one or more when they arrive. But for me, it's time to bite the financial bullet and pay 4 to 5 thousand more for the Honda Element with Real-Time 4WD (=AWD).
Not to worry, though, I'm not a complete traitor to Suzuki. I have my recently purchased 1980 GS850G motorcycle, with its shot front wheel bearings, a fuel leak from carburetor #1, and other assorted issues. That might sound bad, but the bike is 27 years old, and I'm going to have these problems sorted out soon. Till then, I'm riding it anyway. It's a Suzuki, and just like my trusty Sidekick, it will never say die. (Written with fingers crossed for good luck...)
i hear you about the bike..my husband recently sold his suzuki Katana 1100 and he regrets it!!
has anyone actually seen the sx4 in "person" yet, during that "tour" across the US??
Surely you can't be disappointed with the Aerio's acceleration compared to your '94 Sidekick? And actually, from what I've read, the Element is little, if any quicker than the Aerio. The Element is much heavier but has only about 10 more hp/15 more lb-ft of torque.
Part of the problem may be that I'm being forced to switch from a manual transmission to an automatic (because of heavy freeway traffic). But I did like the liveliness of the Honda Fit automatic. The Aerio SX felt rather tank-like, as does the Element. Plus, it feels wasteful driving the Element to work with all that empty space around me.
Did I buy the wrong car in purchasing the Element? Not really. I needed the cargo space, and I needed long distance driving capability (Fit doesn't have it). Still, it would be nice to have a peppy car. I don't know what it was about the Sidekick, but it felt peppy. I already miss so many things about that car, its peppiness, its excellent dead pedal and seating position, and wonderful visibility in all directions. Goodbye, beloved Suzuki Sidekick. Meet my nephew. He's going to get at least a couple more good years out of you, you little workhorse.
I think I'd be satisfied with an Element. I considered one a few years ago, but the Element cost more than I wanted to pay at the time.
I have also long desired a peppy car, but I guess between considerations of cost, style, AWD, economy, utility, and cargo room, I usually compromise and end up with something of average acceleration.
Also, are there any places where one can rent a Japanese vehicle for a week in order to find out what it's really like to drive one? All the car rental companies I know of in California rent only American models, like the Dodge Neon I had the misfortune of driving recently.
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I found some of the comments after the article amusing. One poster said he wouldn't buy it, that the Fit was higher quality. The SX4 isn't even out yet! How can anyone evaluate its quality? I've been following the Fit discussions closely, and there's some quality issues with that car even though it's a five-year-old design.
I don't really look at the sx4 as an alternative to the fit. Yes it is about the same size as the fit, but the fit does not have awd. Plus the sx4 can come with high end options like stability control, climate control, sub woofer and keyless operation.
With the sx4's epa rating 24/30, I wonder if they epa test with the awd system set to auto. Suzuki claims locking into 2wd mode will help mileage.
very disapointing IMO
Remember Suzuki has cut ties with GM its is very highly regarded for their Micro's and bikes. The service is very good the only thing I can say negative about the SX4 is a very high destination charge. My dealer only receive 2 both auto basic but the sports are out there.
The salesperson that show me the SX4 did not know anything about the car but of course they are just being unloaded and the books are not out there yet.
Go to Suzuki.com and see the SX4 movie and believe
John
I am looking forward to owning and enjoying a SX4 5 speed with sport its loaded for about 17k including destination I would say the value is over 20k
Don't get me started on Suzuki's website. It needs some help. I wasn't happy with Suzuki USA either. I showed up for their SX4 demo during my local dealers timeframe, and the manufacture reps had already left.
I'm not too worried about how Suzuki (or any other car manufacturer) deals with me. I don't have an expectation that dealers are going to be much help for me in becoming educated about a car. I just expect a good price and good warranty work when necessary.
I wanted to write to suzuki directly but i did not see any email adress ? something other call " contact us", all i could see was " locate a dealer" and go from there...
I was really excited about the sx4 but this whole "non-service" thing ticked me off really bad...
http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee93d45
The styling of the A-piller and front door frame do not work together with the sedan.
BTW, C/D confirmed the SX4 sedan version in their latest issue, said it would replace the Aerio sedan "next year".
Except for the general size and shape -- no!
People buy the tall sedans for their roomy interiors, not exterior beauty. I'm 6'4" and pop in and out of an Aveo with more ease than many full-size cars and could still wear a cowboy hat if I chose to.
Pricing: Suzuki Releases 2007 XL-7 and SX4 Prices
(no Echo look here :shades: )
I wonder if Suzuki will jump into the "hot hatch" market with a turbocharged engine. Didn't Suzuki recently announce their entry into rally racing with a souped-up version of the SX4?
Greg
http://suzuki.off-road.com/suzuki/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=323970
Greg
Nope.
<img src="http://gomiction.cocolog-nifty.com/tanukihome/images/swift_sport_2.jpg
a bit of a cooper-xA mix
is it gonna be available here?
Overall, I'm happy with the 2007 Suzuki SX4, and if I find any big problems I'll tell you.
Did you get a manual/stick or automotic transmission? Have you tried adjusting the AWD settings?
I understand you can select between FWD, AWD or AWD lock.
Thanks,
Greg
Were their any aftermarket additions such as sunroof or pinstriping?
Hadn't we heard that only the base model was going to be available until winter?
Anyway, I called him back this week, and let him know that we are now able in a round about way to get a Fiat in this country again. He sold his 78 Fiat Brava wagon after 20 years and 320,000 miles, and bought a Honda CRV. The Honda has been good, if a bit pricey to factory maintain, but then all cars are that way, and he follows the schedule, which contributed to getting 320K from the Brava without requiring an engine rebuild. But then, the Lampredi dohc engine was bulletproof.
He now plans to take a look at the SX4. He said it stickered at 18K when he stopped to take a quick look. He said that dealer is one of those who likes to add odds and ends to their vehicles.
I also am going to take a hard look at one. We lost our local dealer recently, so I have to drive to Frederick, Md or Winchester, Va now. Based on reviews, it looks like the car is well planted and knows how to steer, brake, and handle. Might be its Euro genes. I'm wondering if the SX4 is the only offspring of the short-lived GM connection with Fiat.
I've been thinking Versa to replace my Tribute, but this might change those thoughts. Hopefully the test drive will be a revelation. I'm willing to bet it will smell Japanese vinyl inside, but am hoping it speaks the same language as my Fiat Spider and Alfa GTV6 on the road..
I'm going through similar car comparisons for myself. The SX4 is right at the top of my list thanks to the AWD and the available stability control. I'm actually surprised you were able to find a Versa to compare to. They're nowhere to be found around here, and some people that have ordered them are being told to expect to wait 6 months! Plus when you price them out, if you add things like ABS, you're not allowed to upgrade the audio or add a sunroof. Ridiculous.
Definitely going to wait on the Sport. Not sure it's going to work though. Pretty small, even compared to my P5. The A pillar is BIG and is so far forward it really blocks your view. The front bumper cover/spoiler is pretty low to the ground and the bottom part is the farthest forward on the bumper. I was hoping for better clearance in the front. I can see some pretty quick gouges from parking lots. I have to be careful with my P5 and it is higher. Heck, my Miata is higher. I guess the biggest dissappointment is the 24/30 mpg. The Subaru Outback gets 22/28, is a lot bigger car and a base Outback around here can be picked up for $19k. We'll see after a test drive. Torn between a fun car with AWD that is light and gets good gas mileage. Subie is bigger with more space with about the same mileage. I'm not sure right now.