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2007 Suzuki SX4
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I hear ya -- I have a forest green Ford Taurus that screams mid-90s.
What I found most interesting about a UK based review of the new SX4 is that they rated the diesel 6 speed 4WD as the most FUN to drive model of the SX4 range. Then again, the only choices they have are the 1.6L gas or the 1.9L diesel.
As for American Suzuki import colors, I like the Metallic Techno Blue a lot. I like the Sunburst Orange(I'm just winging it here on the exact Suzuki names of their colors!!) a lot. I would probably like the Red but Suzuki doesn't put the Red in any ads. They only put the Orange and Blue in ads. And those cars look great I might add!
One other thing I learned on the Suzuki Auto American website. Go to SX4 and watch the movie if you think you're starting to dig this new hatchwagon. In the Warranty part it mentions if your SX4 needs any Warranty-covered work Suzuki will supply you with a free rental car for up to 5 days per Warranty repair claim. That is a very nice feature of the Suzuki Warranty.
I think they really want to be our car company.
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me: Yes I saw that. But I also thought it strange that Suzuki doesn't just say "you have the rental as long as it takes to fix your car. And the rental will be the same or similar type vehicle (not a 2000 Chevy Aveo or such)." I certainly would demand the rental longer than 5 days, if they had trouble getting a part or trouble diagnosing a problem.
My dealership in the SF bay area told me they found out from their district rep that they will not receive any 5-spd base models until the full roll-out in 2007. Suzuki is shipping just a couple "preview" 5-spds with the convenience package to this dealership in October.
As far as the WRC SX4, I am personally hoping that translates into a turbocharged version of the SX4 for the car-buying public. I think it would be a uniquely compelling addition to compete with other small, turbo'd cars like the WRX and upcoming Mazdaspeed3 and Dodge Caliber SRT4. The selectable AWD feature could really set the SX4 apart from the crowd.
As far as the burnt orange color getting old quick: I would have to disagree! I see few burnt orange Mazda 3's and 6's, and it is still as eye-catching as when the color was first introduced. I like the orange because it's different without being odd--lime green and pink are odd. Just my two cents.
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that would be really interesting to see someone renting a 2000 aveo since they came out in 2004. :surprise:
i dont understand why ppl keep bashing that car??!! :confuse:
why dont you start on the VW beetle instead? a car that most owners would not buy (or take for free) again. :surprise:
Sure VW has a lot of problems. I would never buy one. But as a drivers car it is quite nice. All you have to do is look at the price of slightly used Daewoo's vs. VWs to see the difference. To me, it's worth spending a little more for a quality car that will last and hold some of it's value. Plus, I have to enjoy driving it. I don't think I'd enjoy the Daewoo/Aveo. I wouldn't buy a VW or a Mercedes for that matter. They would be fun to drive, but not reliable.
To me, there are better overall values out there than the Daewoo/Aveo.
me: I have nothing specifically bad to say about the Aveo; it just came to mind as a very low power, low optioned car. If I'm taking in an AWD vehicle with ABS, stability control and side-airbags, I want a rental that has those features.
If I buy a car I don't want to hear from the dealer or salesman or mfr. rep. that I shouldn't expect to be treated well because I didn't pay much. I'm handing over "perfect" $ and I expect to trade that for a similar product or service. I understand things aren't perfect and that's why it's important then to get treated well when you are inconvenienced. If I take an SX4 in for service I don't expect to get an Aveo or Neon, or an S-10 pickup.
If after 5 days my car wasn't ready and they wanted a rental back, they'd have to physically come and find it and tow it back.
Does suzuki turbo any of their cars now? I cant see them putting turbo and all kinds of money into one of their lowest budget cars. Now i know Subaru puts turbos in some of their cars. but it also comes with a Nice price tag. A price tag i dont believe people are willing to spend on a suzuki. at least not at this time. Espeically with suzuki's resale value. My sister had a Aerio. It was a great car! NO problems. but when she needed something more and went for a trade in. OMG what a hit she took.. I think suzuki makes good cars! but i dont see them sinking a ton of money into a market that they dont even have. (turbo's and what not) when people think performance suzuki automotive is not one of the options to choice from. Im not even sure suzuki wants to even go that path. from the way they label the sx4, its more of a "get lot for your money type car". Their whole marketing thing seems to be (look what we give you for the money). So i doubt they start producing race car inspired suzukis anytime soon. Its just not their market. nor do i think they want it to be..
Want to drive through some snow or ice? Well, you should have told me! Just toggle the switch to AWD-Lock and lock your powertrain/axles together so they turn in unison(4WD). This is the breakthrough rig for Suzuki.
The thing that seals the deal for this padre is the great Warranty. 7 years and 100,000 miles. Plus, a rental car for up to 5 days to cover your driving needs while your little monster is getting fixed. It all adds up to a little 'ole carmaker from Japan that wants to be your carmaker.
The 2007 Suzuki SX4 is the car that finally turns the corner for this manufacturer and it will be the one that propels them upward and outward. Thing is, too many Americans are numb-brained into thinking that the Cadadillac Escalade is the thing turning water into wine that they won't notice this great little rig from Suzuki.
Their loss. Numbskulls.
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my point was that even if the aveo happens to be one of the cheapest cars on the market, it is unfair to classify it as "cheap"
the LT version comes with power windows and locks, ABS are available, sunroof, spoiler, 15" alloy wheels, A/C is standard, anti-theft system, MP3 player, cruise control...and then some. i also want to add that it is available in 11 colors!
to me that is plenty for a car in that price range.
the sx4 sure sounds like a great deal , i just wish the MPG were a bit higher
I also wish Subaru would bring back the little Justy (I had one in 1989) awesome little car, 4WD and at least 35 MPG!!! :shades:
and by the way... I currently own a chevy S-10 pick up :surprise:
again, i am sure that there are cars that got lower than 8.4... and i will not check because it will be a never ending conversation
I think i gave my opinion about the aveo and will go back to talk about the SX4 from now on
anyone heard about that happening before?
http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/11612/2007-suzuki-sx4.html
me: I had a Jaguar and that took quite a hit from MSRP. Lost about 40% in 1.5 years. Fortunately I didn't pay anywhere near MSRP.
ark: Its just not their market.
me: You should consider that there are many brands that sell all types of vehicles. Chevy for instance never sold performance cars in the 50's, and the Corvette wasn't a performance car until the 60's. They now sell Aveos, Impalas, Silverados and Corvettes all next to each other. You can buy a $200 Sony TV or a $10,000 Sony TV. And Subaru wasn't into racing years or sold anything sporty years ago. Don't get locked into paradigms!
The article is right...the SX4 is different and one way it's different is the fact that one can put the small car into a separate 2WD(FWD)drive mode to optimize fuel economy.
To have the choice to do this is good when not wanting the better traction provided by AWD-Auto or the 4WD traction provided by the AWD-Lock mode. More of what we've already mentioned but it is the strong points of this sport crossover for all four seasons.
To get this for only $14,999 with that car very, very well-equipped should go over really well. I saw the potential right away, I don't know about you guys.
Like was mentioned in the C&D article another white patch goes dark.
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me: you might want to define what you mean by "need". For instance you may not "need" 4x4 if your retired and can stay home when it snows. Or you may not "need" 4x4 if you don't mind shoveling snow and then after 1/2 an hour you get free. Or you may not need 4x4 if you don't mind spinning your wheels for a few seconds until you get traction - which can be dangerous if your trying to enter a break in traffic.
Also most people don't "need" their airbags every year. But I do agree with you that extra power just like airbags, stability control, and AWD are nice capabilities to have.
I also agree with you that the SX4 is not a powerhouse. This seems to trouble you. Maybe you're looking at the wrong vehicles. But even other small SUV's don't give you the combination of power and mpg you want.
You might just want to go shopping for a Civic, though that doesn't have much torque either. Or wait for 1008 and see what Subaru comes out with for an Impreza. But expect to pay more for more power and space, and about the same mileage.
As I said before if you want good real-world mpg and better acceleration get the lighter, 5-speed. If you've learned to drive for mpg, I'm sure you'll get 30+mpg. And one more thing - if you've got sufficient money to buy a new car and all the taxes and insurances that go along with that, you really shouldn't be too worried whether that car gets 28 or 31 mpg; it really works out to a $2-$3 a week.
Oh, I read that Suzuki is installing Yokohama tires on our 2007 Suzuki SX4's. To me this is great news because I can still remember the performance improvement on my 1999 Kia Sephia-the exact car that inspired my Edmunds nickname. The car handled better after the Yokohama's were put on.
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Here's where I'm coming from. To me the extra weight is fine. I am currently driving a 3000lb. 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4, which, yes, has available 4WD. The Sportage has gotten me out of no less than 4 snow/ice incidents in the last 2 years. I want my next vehicle to have 4WD. What has me captivated with the SX4 is you can toggle it to 2WD(FWD), AWD-Auto for rain traction(up to 50% of the power can go to the rear wheels if needed)and AWD-Lock. When in AWD-Lock your 2 axles are actually locked together-that's right-you're in 4WD then, man! Awesome! I plan on taking my SX4 up the Mt.Graham road here in SE Arizona. Mt.Graham has an observatory at the top that the Vatican has a telescope on(yep, it's working fine). Also, the U.of Arizona is building an observatory that has a new state of the art technology of mirrors they're employing that, when done, is going to be the most effective telescope in the world for clarity and depth of view. It blows the Hubble telescope out-o-the water, man.
So, I want to head up there. Sometimes when I go traveling it will no doubt get nasty. Therein lies why I want a 2007 Suzuki SX4.
Did I mention wonderfully good looks? Italian design in it's body. State of the art electronics abound. Purchase price?
Only $14,999 for the 5-speed. Gentlemen-that is a flaming bargain. Suzuki is offering '0'% interest financing. I plan on test driving within the next few days-I'll keep y'all updated on my impressions.
Oh, 2007 Suzuki SX4 tires. They're installing P205/60R16 Yokohama's at their Japanese factory. The Japanese Suzuki factory is installing these Yokohama's for our U.S.market. The reason I mention this is that Fiat and Suzuki are also building 2007 SX4's at a factory in Eastern Europe-Hungary IIRC. So, we are no doubt going to get P205/60R16 Yokohama's on our 2007 Suzuki SX4's. Very, very cool, gentlemen. These Yokohama's are great tires.
I put some on my 1999 Kia Sephia back in early 2000 with my tax refund and my little Sephia was immediately turned into a bad little driving machine. No kidding. The car handled so much better, tracked so much better and took bumps way better.
The 2007 Suzuki SX4 picture just keeps getting clearer and clearer and clearer to me. This will be my next rig, men.
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The base model sticker is good price. Not sure about the Sport though. For example, real world prices of Subaru around here are quite good. Today's paper had Forester X's from $18.5k. I've seen even better deals with the $2500 rebate Subaru had on the 06's. Hopefully Suzuki will offer rebates next year and make it an even better deal.
Speaking of bargains, for the person looking at the Aveo. They are going for $8k. The new base 2 dr Hyundai Accent is selling for $8.5k.
Of course, you could by this used Accent - for more than sticker. :-()
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/213582171.html
Or, a really nice headset that allows hands-free use of any cell phone, in any car (including the SX4) costs about $30.
Also, especially in a small car I think side-airbags would be a definite want. You'd seem awful stupid to end-up crippled or dead in an accident without those features; but people could say you saved a few dollars by buying a lesser vehicle.
If you are looking to buy an SX4, I would assume you want an AWD vehicle. The competitiors to the SX4 thus would be the Caliber RT, the Jeep Compass and Patriot, the Impreza, and maybe the small utes of several companies. The competitors for the SX4 would not necessarily be the Fit, Versa, and Scions which are FWD only. If you want FWD and high mpg (high 30's), that is a different type vehicle than the SX4.
The SX4 is an alternative to the small SUV's.
I would not be surprised if Suzuki uses the same or similar tires for the SX4.
I'm not saying that ALL Yokohamas are bad, though. My replacement set of tires are 80,000 mile warranty all-season performance Yokohamas which, combined with the AWD, fared much better in winter conditions.
I'm interested in the traction of AWD for mountain sking. Having owned three Subarus I know how good AWD is. If you don't need the AWD, I'd look elsewhere. I think the SX4 stacks up pretty well against other AWD alternatives, although as I said earlier, the sport model is creeping up towards Subaru territory.
I too am hoping the discounting will start soon.
I like the styling, versatality and low price of the 2007 Suzuki SX4. Also the many standard features. This crossover is loaded for only $14,999.
I would have another one by now but our 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4 is a great rig. That's just it-I can shop and shop and shop and shop and not have to buy. But the SX4 may be our next rig.
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me: absolutely not. I already said your opinion is valid. What I said was you've said that multiple times in a few days. I wondered what the point was to continue putting that opinion every few posts? I wonder why if the power isn't acceptable to you, you haven't moved on to some other model that is acceptable to you? You'll never be happy with an SX4 based on your statements, so why continue to dwell on it? Go test-drive some high mpg FWD cars, or if you want AWD go try Imprezas.
Excellent value.
Utility of all season all wheel drive.
Comfortable interior.
Standard safety features.
More than adequate power.
Acceptable fuel economy.
Excellent fit and finish and very good quality of materials.
7 year 100,000 mile powertrain warranty.
Not too big, not too small size vehicle.
to arkainzeye - you have repeated over and over your disappointment with the power of the SX4. You are not the only person with this observation as this has been noted in some of the early press reviews. I'm not going to try to change your mind, however, the expression "beating a dead horse" comes to mind. I would ask if you would share your motivation of continuing to complain if this car does not fit your needs. Why?
I for one, am seriously considering a purchase of a SX4 automatic base with convenience pkg. in silver.
Note- Suzuki is importing only 20,000 SX4 and it is my prediction they will have no trouble selling every one of them and could easily sell twice as many.
Now, think about it dudes, does that not sound like someone smitten? Gas mileage is fine with me.
Anybody really interested in this vehicle Google Motor Trend review 2007 Suzuki SX4. Watch the short little test drive video that is on the Motor Trend review for this exciting new car. You will see the driving "stance" of this car. I can watch it over and over again. The car has got a great body design-unique-and it has a separate 2WD(FWD)and Auto-AWD for rainy driving conditions and AWD-Lock for an actual 4WD driving mode-axles locked.
With all the features standard this car it is a great deal at MSRP. I am liking the Techno Metallic Blue (MT video car color), Red or Orange for a color.
Do you see all of the airbags available as standard equipment? ABS brakes with EBD? 4-wheel discs?
Again, with my situation, I share the car I drive with my wife. She loves our Sportage and will not want to trade it in. This is a very familiar situation for me to be in. However, I am going to lobby for trading in the Sportage for this baby.
Incidentally, ask your salesperson about a standard equipment mpg gas trip-o-meter being available. I bumped into a lady at a gas station in Benson, AZ, who already took possession af a 2007 Suzuki SX4, Silver, with an automatic transmission. She was not yet comfortable with reading the mpg guage, yet, and seemed uncomfortable with me grilling her about it(I wonder why that might be!). So, look for it and marvel about it here on this forum, won't you?
Looking forward to test driving this car.
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They make it into a racecar for nasty terrain and race it against other carmakes, that's what they do!
Check this out:
http://www.suzukiauto.com/sr_07/grand_vitara/tajima/news.php
They won the Pike's Peak Challenge with it, too!
Now, think about it dudes. Wouldn't you want your 2007 Suzuki SX4 carmaker to have the talent, drive and attributes to be able to take an SUV like the Grand Vitara and make it into a snow racer, and win the race?
Sure you would.
BTW-check out how beefy the Grand Vitara racer looks. Is that an "I mean business" ice racer, or what? My long time favorite carmaker, Kia Motors, also does well with their Kia Sorento long-haul racing machine. That is an all-terrain type of race. Kia raced a souped-up Sportage of theirs for years and the newer Sorento was chosed to take the baton and challenge other makes and models in the New World Order.
But there you go-I tend to like foreign carmakers who make crossovers/SUV's and make them tough and ready to rumble.
The future for both these carmakers is so bright they're gonna need some serious Billy Gibbons shades soon, if they don't already have them on. :shades:
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me: Agree. It is better than what I get now, and I currently use premium.
iluv: 2WD(FWD)and Auto-AWD for rainy driving conditions ...
me: you'd really do yourself a favor springing for the sport and the stability control too. Though since there could be a shortage of these cars, I don't want to push my favorite model and car.
The more I think about it the more I see this SX4 as a combo of 2 cars I've owned. I had an '88 CRX (with 92hp, but a blast to drive), and a '96 Impreza Outback (only 135 hp then).
Also if anyone wants some hints on lightening (weight) a car slightly, we can talk. I know it doesn't sound like much, but you can probably take 40 Lb out of the weight of any car. When I'm just driving local, I usually dump the jack , and spare-tire, get rid of the rear mats, owners-manual, cigarette lighter, and drain 75% of the windshield washer fluid. I don't haul stuff around that I'm not using. If I have a breakdown, I get away from the car, and call AAA ( I guess I've seen on TV, and read about too many cars getting nailed in the breakdown lane