Honda Fit Real World MPG

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  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    I have a fit Sport auto with 6,000 miles on it.

    I filled up yesterday and got 35.5 mpg (mostly highway with some around town driving with no traffic jams or extended idling)

    Previous tank was just below 33 mpg (mostly around town driving/repeated short trips).

    The tank before that was 39 mpg (all highway)

    I think the engine is breaking in and mileage is improving. I was consistently getting around the 28mpg nieghborhood for a long time.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    That's good to know, as my Fit has 6.7 miles on it right now. My other car is a Ford Freestyle, and its mileage really improved after 5000 miles too. So I won't pay too much attention until then.
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    That's good to know, as my Fit has 6.7 miles on it right now. My other car is a Ford Freestyle, and its mileage really improved after 5000 miles too. So I won't pay too much attention until then.

    I'm wondering if people that are getting less than desirable mileage have changed their factory oil out to early. Honda wants owners to leave the factory oil in the Fit at least until the maintenance minder says 15%, but yet I keep reading of some people that are bent on changing it out early because of whatever engine break in myths they happen to believe in. The Factory oil has a high moly content. I think changing it out early doesn't allow things to seat as well as they could which could also affect mpg maybe.
  • kipkkipk Member Posts: 1,576
    I agree! :)
  • wulybugrwulybugr Member Posts: 19
    After my tank of 10% ethanol, my next tank was back at 35 mpg. Did a lot of calcs. This whole 10% ethanol thing is a farce. It cannot save any actual gas!! My fit will go more miles on .9 gallon pure gas than on a full gallon of 10% ethanol/90% gas!. We also have tested a dodge van that is equipped to run on E-85. Gets 28MPG on gas, and 20 Mpg on E-85. It costs less per mile to use real gas!!.
    With about 10 state now demanding 10% ethanol, and more coming on line, we simply cannot produce enough to meet the law mandated required amount. We are already import some ethanol. We will have to inport more and the cost will be higher than gas. It is already if we take away the government subsidies. Our government hurts us more than they help, and the greenies are driving us into bankruptcy!
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Member Posts: 504
    We took the delivery of our Fit Sport (AT) on November 8, and have had four (4) fillups, including both congested city/freeway situations and long road trips. My numbers have been as follows:

    1st Fill: 30.33 MPG Dealer Tank, 20% City, 30% Suburban, 50% Congested Freeway

    2nd Fill: 35.30 MPG 80% Highway, 20% Suburban

    3rd Fill: 34.11 MPG 100% backroad two-lane highway with hilly winding roads

    4th Fill: 38.82 MPG 100% Highway

    Overall: 35.0 MPG

    The areas covered are Minneapolis-St. Paul, Duluth and Highway 61 in Minnesota, as well as MN State Hwy 1 (winding backroads).
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    Those numbers are great. I just picked mine up yesterday, and I noticed on the highway at 70mph the tach is at about 2400rmp, which is pretty good. Plus it wasn't downshifting to 4th every time I pressed the gas, which is good too. On regular street driving, it has plenty of power under 3000rpm, so I'm guessing that with your MPG, you're probably keeping the RPMs in the mid 2000s?

    Did you use the paddle shifters much on the winding and hilly roads, or did the auto keep it in a pretty good gear?
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Member Posts: 504
    First, congratulations on your Fit!

    Yes, your tach reading sounds right at 70 mph. At a cruising speed, the RPM was mostly hovering in the mid 2000s. What I did notice on hilly roads, though, is that the tranny is very quick in first disengaging the torque converter lockup when necessary, and if that is not enough, it just as quickly downshifts, and that bumped the RPM to slightly above 3k on hill climbs. And despite the perceived image of Minnesota, there are a lot of hills on the Minnesota highways, so this unlock/downshift was happening pretty regularly. Even with that, however, there was no adverse effect in the mileage obtained. I am assuming that it is all about the tranny and its program using the engine's sweet spot, thus remaining efficient even at a higher RPM.

    When I did the backroads, I pretty much kept the AT in the 'D' mode. As I mentioned, the tranny is very good at finding an efficient RPM for the car to keep on going, so I did not have to do much. Where I found the paddle shifters handy was when I wanted a little bit of engine braking before entering a corner, and with the paddle shifters that's a lightening quick operation, which is very handy in a spirited driving situation.

    I agree with you about the low-end torque. You wouldn't usually expect a torque band like that from a small-displacement engine, esp. with Honda, but this one does have it. Of course, as it is typical of Honda, the engine is so rev-happy that before you knew it you are no longer in the "low-end" as the engine wants to keep on revving.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    I was thinking in the hilly/winding roads that you could put it in Sport mode and just keep it in gear to keep the RPMs low and prevent the upshifting, but if it's only going to just above 3000RPMs that's not too bad. But I'll have to try it for engine braking on the downhills while in Drive.
  • fitluverfitluver Member Posts: 198
    After my tank of 10% ethanol, my next tank was back at 35 mpg. Did a lot of calcs. This whole 10% ethanol thing is a farce. It cannot save any actual gas!! My fit will go more miles on .9 gallon pure gas than on a full gallon of 10% ethanol/90% gas!. We also have tested a dodge van that is equipped to run on E-85. Gets 28MPG on gas, and 20 Mpg on E-85. It costs less per mile to use real gas!!.
    With about 10 state now demanding 10% ethanol, and more coming on line, we simply cannot produce enough to meet the law mandated required amount. We are already import some ethanol. We will have to inport more and the cost will be higher than gas. It is already if we take away the government subsidies. Our government hurts us more than they help, and the greenies are driving us into bankruptcy!

    It is my understanding that the 10% ethanol replaces the HIGHLY CARCINOGENIC MTBE additive. That 10% saves billions in cancer costs thru health care, no doubt.

    As far as the 85E, there was big writeup in consumer reports a short time back (one or two months max). I also read somewhere else that we can not use every kernal of corn to make enough ethanol.

    As for the greenies....I wholeheartedly believe, and you probably will, it is worth that 10% loss in fuel eficiency (3 mpg?) to get rid of MTBE.
  • fitluverfitluver Member Posts: 198
    Thanks to all for the feedback. I do have the Sport Automatic, so it looks like I'm on the low end of CR rating for the Fit. I don't have any longer road trips planned in the near future, but the Fit will surely be used for one of those when the time comes. My wife has a 2001 Civic -- she's never checked what her MPG is, so I'm going to see what she's getting driving in the same conditions. Yeah, my commute is TRUE BIG CITY driving -- on most days I drive the car for a total of 5 - 10 miles total. My one-way commute to work is about 3.5 miles, which takes anywhere between 15 - 30 minutes, so my "average" speed is very low. Makes me wonder what kind of MPG the big gas guzzlers are getting in the city. I promise to update if I get more Highway driving done -- I'm keeping good records.

    In true miserly fashion, and knowing there are areas in my state that get reaaallly bad...let me give you a scenario to help me make my point.

    My housemate can leave at one time and get to work in an hour. If he leaves 15 min before, or 15 min after, the time it takes can vary highly.

    Do you have "flex time" or some "staggered start time" to help you minimize your morning traffic? (ie can you get boss to let you come in 15 min in either direction to ease the crunch or are they rigid or does it make no diff because its busier during those times?)
  • fitluverfitluver Member Posts: 198
    Yes, your tach reading sounds right at 70 mph. At a cruising speed, the RPM was mostly hovering in the mid 2000s. What I did notice on hilly roads, though, is that the tranny is very quick in first disengaging the torque converter lockup when necessary, and if that is not enough, it just as quickly downshifts, and that bumped the RPM to slightly above 3k on hill climbs. And despite the perceived image of Minnesota, there are a lot of hills on the Minnesota highways, so this unlock/downshift was happening pretty regularly. Even with that, however, there was no adverse effect in the mileage obtained. I am assuming that it is all about the tranny and its program using the engine's sweet spot, thus remaining efficient even at a higher RPM.

    I am curious, and wonder if anyone can answer.

    If you did the same ride using cruise control, would it stay in fifth gear?

    I never owned an automatic.

    When I read of the paddles I wonder if it wouldnt be more efficient to use the cruise?
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    In cruise, an automatic car will downshift if needed to maintain speed up a grade.
  • fitluverfitluver Member Posts: 198
    In cruise, an automatic car will downshift if needed to maintain speed up a grade.

    Thanks for taking the time. Forgive my ignorance, as I have never had an auto.

    Does the cruise make the same choices/rpms as the folks using the paddles?
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Unlikely. Cruise control is just a machine, which operates within the constraints of its programming.
  • fitluverfitluver Member Posts: 198
    Unlikely. Cruise control is just a machine, which operates within the constraints of its programming.

    There was a guy named Pavlov.
    He had a dog.
    :)
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    There was a guy named Pavlov.
    He had a dog.


    .....and Bingo was his nameo B-I-N-G-O and Bingo was his nameo.

    A little known fact about Pavlov's dog. :D
  • scribblescribble Member Posts: 3
    hello,

    here are my gas mileage results over the first 2000+ miles.

    MILES : GALLONS : MPG
    323.5 : 9.507 : 34.03
    319.2 : 8.969 : 35.59
    326.3 : 9.700 : 33.64
    317.1 : 9.186 : 34.52
    246.4 : 7.003 : 35.18
    328.3 : 9.909 : 33.13
    282.7 : 8.083 : 34.97

    90% of the mileage is from highway driving in new jersey. enjoy.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    What sort of highway speeds were you going? 65, 70, 75??
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Member Posts: 504
    Tank #5 has just come in. It's:

    29.60 MPG (40% City 15% Suburban 45% Highway)

    That "City" is a lot of stop 'n go.

    I know you were asking scribble about this, but we, believe it or not, go by the posted speed limits, or so says my wife who is the primary driver of our Fit. On highway, therefore, our speed goes from 55 to 70 mph, never exceeding 70 unless it is in a passing situation. City speed limits where we live are generally 30 mph, with suburban speed limits reaching 55 mph, with a mean of 45 mph or so.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    I hope you drive in the right lane on the highway ;)
  • scribblescribble Member Posts: 3
    bobw3,
    i usually drive between 70 and 80 MPH almost the whole trip.
    - scribble
  • scribblescribble Member Posts: 3
    i have a fit sport AT.
  • raj_varaj_va Member Posts: 4
    I have red base auto.Mix 70% hwy(speed 60 -65 mph) and 30 % city( speed 25 to 45 mph).

    first tank ----36.5 MPG

    second tank----35.0 MPG
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Member Posts: 504
    I hope you drive in the right lane on the highway

    Oh yes. We don't want to be "left lane hogs." There are so many of them in our state! Maybe we should have a hunting season for them hogs. ;)
  • fitluverfitluver Member Posts: 198
    There was a guy named Pavlov.
    He had a dog.

    .....and Bingo was his nameo B-I-N-G-O and Bingo was his nameo.

    A little known fact about Pavlov's dog.

    lol
  • hqly2001hqly2001 Member Posts: 92
    For those who performed this, please post your result...
    i went from averaging about 31 mpg mostly highway to about 29-30 mpg.. it dropped after the procedure.. how about u guys??
  • kipkkipk Member Posts: 1,576
    Hgly,

    In your post 650 you wrote:

    650….well i was getting 28-30 on mostly 90% highway driving..
    i was hoping at least 33-35 if 90% highway..
    so i did the idle learn... i filled up at the gas station which gave me the best mpg.. 31.5... i was at half at 121.. my best was 170.. avergage 150.. i havenm't taken it in yet.. i just recently did the idle learn procedure and figure to give it a couple more fillups... but disappointed so far.. i've only read that it has help many... but never though that it would decrease my milage lol


    At that time you said you were averaging 28-30 before the ILP. Now you say you are now averaging 29-30.
    How is that a decrease? :confuse:

    FWIW: I've noticed mileage on our cars drop a little with the cold weather and cold engines running richer a little longer. Not a good combo for short drives. Also be sure to check tire preasure.
    Kip
  • hqly2001hqly2001 Member Posts: 92
    Hey Kipk..

    A lot of time passed since then.. 28-30 was my first few tanks.. then i was able to get 31mpg as my best before idle learn.. since then i've avergaged 28-30..with 27mpg my worst last tank.. so basically i saw now improvement.. to a minor decrease. I was wondering how everyone else who did the procedure is doing now.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    What is anyone's experience with when the low fuel light comes on and about how much gas they had left after the low fuel light comes on? I'm still on my first tank, so I'm curious.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Member Posts: 504
    Five minutes ago my wife dropped me off her Fit, with the low fuel light having just come on. She is driving another 25 miles and fuel up. I will call her and ask how many gallons she could pump in. Stay tuned.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Member Posts: 504
    All right. My wife drove another 25 miles or so after the low fuel light came on, and filled the Fit up. She put in 9.1 gallons. It seems that the low fuel light came on rather early - I thought it was supposed to come on with 1.7 gallons left in the tank, or something like that.

    By the way, we have just had tank #6. Here is a copy from the fueleconomy.gov page where we are keeping track of our Fit:

    Miles Gallons City Hwy MPG

    11/10/2006 167.00 5.507 50% 50% 30.3

    11/10/2006 174.90 4.954 10% 90% 35.3

    11/11/2006 266.90 7.825 20% 80% 34.1

    11/12/2006 316.30 8.148 0% 100% 38.8

    11/16/2006 258.80 8.730 60% 40% 29.6

    11/21/2006 264.80 9.100 70% 30% 29.1

    Overall Average: 32.73 MPG
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    On my first fillup, I put in 7.9 gal and drove 242 miles, so that's about 30.6mpg. That was with about 50-50 mix suburb/hwy driving, so I'm satisfied with this first tank, since I know it will only get better with time.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    I'm curious how many miles people drive in general before filling up the tank in the Fit. I know it sounds stupid, but I hate the idea of getting gas before 300 miles, especially on a long highway road trip.
  • hondafulhondaful Member Posts: 32
    I don't like to let the tank get too low, for two reasons: 1) you never know when you'll be in a hurry and need a good amount in the tank; 2) in cold weather, there is greater risk of condensation in a nearly empty tank (may not be a concern with all the emission controls on tanks nowadays, though). I usually fill up whenever it is convenient and the needle is below 1/2, which usually translates to 200 miles on our 96 Civic Coupe or 99 Isuzu Oasis.

    I've been tracking mileage on both cars with the idea of having a base line to compare the Fit when I get it (next week! next week! next week! PLEASE!) On both cars we average 80% of the EPA Highway mileage, spread out over all kinds of driving. If all the variations in Fit mileage reported on this forum are due to differences in driving habits, our SSM Sport Auto should average 30 MPG.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Member Posts: 504
    We have been noticing that our Fit's low fuel indicator turns on after about 9 gallons of gas has been used from the prior fill-up. Our Sport AT Fit is currently averaging 32.3 MPG after 8 tanks, so on that basis, the low fuel light comes on for us after about 290 miles. One on road trip, though, we drove 350 miles before the light.

    One drawback that is frequenly mentioned about the Fit is its rather small tank (10.8 gallons). Even though you may be getting a good mileage, you feel as though you are not because you have to fill up often. In fact, we are filling up as often as with this SUV we used to own. However, even though the frequency may be the same, we are paying a LOT less for gas for sure.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    I just did my second fill-up after 312 miles. I put in 9.8gal, so that's about 32.8MPG, and I had another gal in reserve. This was about a 60/40 hwy/suburb driving mix. I drove another 25 miles after the low fuel light came on, so I guess it was at about the 9gal point when it came on for me too. If anyone is interested, when I got gas, the gauge was slightly under the empty line. My work commute one way is 18 miles, and going home on Friday is when the low fuel light came on, but since gas is cheaper by work and I didn't use the Fit on the weekend, I decided to wait until today to fill-up. So it's good to know that even after driving about 25 miles after the low-fuel light comes on and the gauge is slightly under the Empty dash on the gauge, there is still another gallon left in the tank, so another 30 miles in reserve.
  • wulybugrwulybugr Member Posts: 19
    After 7 weeks I now have almost 4,000 miles on my Sport AT.
    My try at 10% ethanol was a disaster. From an average of 35 mpg, I went to 30.9 and 26.1, then the computer got back on stream for the 87 Octane pure gas. Am now at 36-38 MPG
    per tank. probably 40% suburbs, 10% real city, 50% highway.
    Try to keep rpm;s at not over 2500 except when passing etc.
    This keeps me at 62-65 MPH. Where i live gas stations locally are about 10-15 cents per gallon cheaper than surrounding area. Today 12-4, I paid $1.99.9. Therefore, I run my tank down to where the light comes on or is about to.
    1t 320-350 miles. Did find out to NOT open tank cap unless you fill the tank. If you do, the great air space in the tank will activate to "loose gas cap" lights which are VERY annoying. The dealer plugged a computer under the dash & reset me. They really did not want to do it but I whined
    & hollered till they did. Took about 2 minutes, and the computer was at the check in desk! My oil is at 60%. Going to take a 2,000 mile trip this week and hope to get 40+ per gallon.(my oil level is OK) When I get back, will take it in for oil change probably and switch to synthetic. PS: I keep 40# air in the tires. Have our own compressor in the shop, so it is easy to check, and I have quality gauge. Had the Missouri Snow and Ice storm this week. Car did great on the ice & snow. I used to commute over the Eisenhower Tunnel in Co. twice a week, and in winter I preferred small front wheel drives over my 4 wheel drives for road travel.
    Had both Ford Fiesta, Festiva, and the other small FWD ford(can't remember the name) The Honda is great.
    I have not had any ground clearance problems, but I am careful. Just keep the RPM's under 3000 so the V-Tec does not kick in much.
  • kagedudekagedude Member Posts: 407
    I'm curious how many miles people drive in general before filling up the tank in the Fit. I know it sounds stupid, but I hate the idea of getting gas before 300 miles, especially on a long highway road trip.

    Same here. My 19K miles Fit Sport 5spd averages about 38mpg hwy and even with the fuel light on, I try to drive it to about 340-370 miles. I fill up about 9.25 gallons with that.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    Everyone with the great MPG seems to keep their highway speed to the 65mph range. It's hard to do here, because I'd have to stay in the right lane, so I'd end up behind slower moving vehicles going 60 or less, so I'd end up have to pass a lot and do a lot of slowing down and speeding up, which really kills MPG. The left lane moves at a smoother 70-75mph (which is where I stay).

    Also, I do try to keep the RPMs low, but just starting out from a stop, unless you're really light on the gas the RPMs go in the low 3000s before they shift up.

    As far as the 10% ethanol, it seems like all the gas stations around here have 10% ethanol, but I'll have to check closer. Do they have to post the 10% ethanol somewhere on the pumps?

    I guess I'm spoiled on MPG because my old '99 V-6 Cougar would get 32MPG on the highway, and my current Ford Freestyle gets 26MPG, and both at driving 70-75mph. I was hoping that the Fit would get at least 40MPG on the highway at 70-75mph but we'll see, since my Fit is brand new and I haven't taken it on any long highway runs yet.

    Note to kagedude...now that you have 19K miles on the Fit, did you notice the MPG getting better after the initial few thousand miles?
  • kagedudekagedude Member Posts: 407
    Note to kagedude...now that you have 19K miles on the Fit, did you notice the MPG getting better after the initial few thousand miles?

    The mpg as far as I noted has not changed from when it was new. I've only hit over 40mpg maybe 3 times but it always averages to a lil over 38mpg hwy and 35mpg with more city than hwy.

    Yeah, sometimes I wonder if the extra 5 miles was worth it. My Mazda 3i was doing 33mpg and it was a more comfortable ride. :)
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    For me the MPG was not the main reason for buying the Fit to replace my old Cougar, but the need to put a car seat in the back and because I was tired of repairing the Cougar. I like the Fit for its great interior size in a small exterior package, the driving/handling compared to other small cars, the reliability reputation of Honda, and the price. I paid the same for the Fit as I did for the Cougar in 1999. I'm satisfied with the MPG so far, but I always want better.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    Has anyone with poor or not so good MPG taken it to the dealer and had them do something or adjust something which ended up improving the MPG? Just curious if it's been worth a trip to the dealer, or if they just say whatever you're getting is in the normal range.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    On today's fill-up I calculated 30.2mpg with my auto sport Fit about 50/50 highway/suburb driving about 70mph on the highway and keeping the RPMs under 3000 in the suburbs. I just added some air to the tires to get them from 32 to 35psi today when I got gas.

    A previous poster gets about 37mpg average, he keeps 40psi in the tires, no ethanol in his gas (I forget to check if my station has ethanol), drives 62-65mph on the highway and keeps his RPMs under 2500 (I don't know how you do that in the suburb except with a really light foot).

    We'll see how it continues for me, as I now have about 700 miles on the tank and so far 30.5, 32.7 and 30.2 mpg on my first 3 tanks. But if it's rated 33-38 I'd like to do better.
  • doeskendoesken Member Posts: 6
    After 3 fill ups, mixed driving on my fit, I am sitting on an average of 35.6 MPG. YES!!!
  • dap2006dap2006 Member Posts: 68
    My driving is almost 100% city and I drive without worrying too much about my fuel consumption, though I'm not racing around town. I've been averaging around 30.5 MPG for the last 1000 miles or more - I've tried driving more conservatively and have gotten 32.5.

    I'm down to 40% on oil life - I'm curious to see if my mileage improves after the first service, though it looks like it will be a little while before I go in. I'm loving the Fit!! :shades:
  • w9cww9cw Member Posts: 888
    Bobw3 - I've been seriously thinking about buying a Fit, and the fuel mileage reported here is certainly acceptable, but I, too, have seen in excess of 30MPG on the road with larger "Detroit Iron." I would think the Fit should be in the 38-40MPG range, especially if a heavy Buick LeSabre can deliver 29 to 31 MPG with the 3.8L V6! I've owned Civics and Accords, so I like Honda products, and have always been an advocate of small cars, but I would like to see better numbers from the Fit.
  • bobw3bobw3 Member Posts: 2,989
    I'd say that the big Detroit iron getting 30mpg was probably on long highway cruises at 60mph, which I haven't done yet on the Fit...so we'll see how it goes. I don't believe people are averaging 30mpg with Accords and Camrys, at least not what they report on MPG.com...mostly in the mid 20's average.
  • kipkkipk Member Posts: 1,576
    Driving posted speed limits on road trips, our 4400# '03 Pilot 4wd will average 26-27mpg depending on terrain. Actually got 29 and 30 respectively on flats of Kentucky and Indiana.. 28 for round trip from Atlanta to Greenwood Indiana and back, over mountains, hills and dales! Our 3400#, '03 CR-V AT 4wd averages 3 mpg better under similar conditions.

    The numbers for the slipperier, lighter, smaller engined Fit should get near 40 which they probably do under similar driving conditions. The driver can make or break mileage even though the car may be capable.

    Kip
  • bamacarbamacar Member Posts: 749
    My 2003 Accord Sedan (1st year of present generation) with the 4 cylinder and manual transmission averaged 30mpg in mixed driving for the 40,000 miles I owned it. I would get 32-36 on highway trips, and never saw a single tank with under 26 mpg. The Impalas and Malibus I rent consistently get around 30-32 mpg of course with mostly highway miles but cruising at about 75mph.
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