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  • rovergalrovergal Member Posts: 11
    I'm not sure where they came up with their mileage numbers either. I have 2200 miles on my LR2 and am averaging 24 mpg commuting to work on a major road (well, major for Vermont) every day. Inside town, I have yet to drop down below 19mpg. So after looking at Car and Driver's mileage numbers, I'm confused.

    And by the way, Land Rover says the break in period is 1000 miles, more or less. My experience is that it took about 500 miles and the mileage shot up to where it is today. The car also averages about 60mph when I'm commuting.
  • drojtdrojt Member Posts: 10
    For what it’s worth, I completed a vacation from VA to FL. I averaged approximately 28 mph hwy driving and 22 city. I now have over 6000 miles on my rig and I am getting the same mpg in my local average as I commute to DC on a daily basis. :D
    I think that the variance in driving comes from the variance in drivers as I suspect that many (including those who review the vehicle) have the lead foot sysdrome. :shades:
    Enjoy!
  • misswhomisswho Member Posts: 19
    Does anyone have any information about when the roof rails will be available? I am needing to put my racks on top to haul bikes and stuff. So far, I've had to fold down the rear seats and stuff them inside.

    Not the worst thing ever, but a just another little quirky oddity (like the bluetooth) that I can't use my new SUV to haul my stuff b/c of one accessory not being available. So if and when anybody has ANY information, it would be much appreciated!
  • 08lr308lr3 Member Posts: 76
    i heard fall of this year, but I'm no expert. :P
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,510
    I saw a Tambora Flame LR2 weaving in and out of traffic on my way home tonight. The truck has a real presence on the road.

    It definitely needs roof rails!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • slaughlinslaughlin Member Posts: 3
    Sorry about the first attempt to post.

    The brochure says that baltic blue metallic, narvik black, and whistler white are scheduled to change in late 2007. Does anyone have any idea what colors are being added? Any idea when these will show up in showrooms? Thanks.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Whistler white has been discontinued. No word on the other colors.
  • jeremyljeremyl Member Posts: 5
    I have been in seaching for a not-too-big SUV for a while. I always thought Land Rovers were spendy, but I decided to take a look this morning and saw the LR2 was in my range (~$30K). Test drove this afternoon and it is now at the top of my list. Below it are:

    Rav4 - not same class but leather and V6 for much less, so I dont mind beating it up

    RDX - perfect on paper, but just too boring, like my 03 TL.

    X3 - Very nice, but spendy and build quality reports are not impressive.

    If I can actually get one of these for not much above invoice I think I will go for it (would be even nicer if they made it in a that nice deep green). I dont know much about LRs. How are things like build quality/reliability, resale value, etc.

    Biggest thing I dont like is it gulps premo fuel like it is going out of style. My driving is either to work thru traffic or roadtrips on the weekends - where I need the SUV part (I climb mountains during summer and ski them during winter - trails are not always nice).

    Anyway - anything you guys can say to help me decide?
  • ronxlr2ronxlr2 Member Posts: 46
    i also considered the RDX and X3 before i bought my LR2... i was turning in my 2004 BMW 330Ci w/ performance package, so i was a bit concerned with the sluggish numbers i had read for the LR2. Furthermore, my BMW dealership was under pressure to expand their building and needed to sell more cars to make the money to do so, so i had the general sales manager calling me daily telling me he'd give me an X3 for well under invoice.... well, with the options i would've needed on the X3 to make it comparable (in my opinion) to the LR2, it kicked the price of the X3 up to just under $50k... i told him flat out i was going to get a loaded LR2 with all 3 packages for 9-10k less, and would only consider the X3 if he could get close to that... i knew he wouldn't be able to, which was fine with me because i was still leaning towards the LR2.

    Before the BMW, I had a 2002 Acura TL Type-S and had nothing but great things to say about it... Acura offers a lot of value for the buck (hell, it's a Honda, it's not gonna let you down, hehe).. lots of neat techie gadgets on the inside, and a little more oomph (on paper, at least), but you're right, not nearly as exciting or unique as the LR2... in the 2 months i've had my LR2, driving all over Raleigh, Durham, and Cary, NC, I still have yet to see another LR2 on the road. I get stares and compliments all the time, and it's really fun having something new and different on the road -- you won't get that kind of attention with your other choices without spending a few extra grand on some 20 or 22 inch wheels or something, hehe.

    oh, and btw, i haven't been off-road with mine (YET), but i hear that LR's are unparalleled when it comes to off-road performance.

    oh, and about my previously-mentioned concern with the on-paper sluggishness -- i was very pleasantly surprised when i drove the LR2 the first time, and I continue to enjoy the spirit and agility this thing has! It is definitely more fun to drive than I ever imagined... i thought that i would be giving up some of the thrill of the drive that i had with my 330Ci in order to gain utility to be able to carry the dog and family around... truth is, this thing is just as much fun to drive! Let us know if you have any more questions...

    p.s. - as far as mileage numbers go, i'm about 2500 miles in and have stopped babying her as much around town... i alternate between medium and heavy feet ;) and average about 17-18 mpg around town... haven't taken a long enough road trip yet to provide highway numbers.... going to the beach in a couple weeks though, so i'll report back then.. ;)

    Rob
  • jlr3jlr3 Member Posts: 4
    Have you tried to lower your initial comfort temperature setting. A slightly lower temperature setting (2f+) will give a more "aggressive" blower level initially but then back down as the system cools down.
    The way the system works in AUTO mode is as follows.
    Subject to the temperature in side the vehicle (measured by the in car sensor) and the solar intesity (measured by the solar sensor)and the external temperature (measured by the ambient sensor) - the HVAC system will determine how cool the air should be, how much airflow is required and where it is delivered. The bottom line is that on a fairly hot day the HVAC system (if in AUTO) will drive the HVAC system into full cold, maximum airflow and recirculation mode without the need to switch it into the manual HVAC setting. The only difference is that in the AUTO mode the system will start to control the HVAC by reducing the airflow and running in partial fresh mode as the temperature inside the cabin reaches the "comfort zone". This "comfort" zone varies from occupant to occupant as this is a subjective requirement and not a dynamic requirement. Either way I have been very happy with HVAC system as long as you determine what your comfort setting is. Mine for example is 70f. Not sure what yours is but try lowering it a few "f". I would gladly await your findings and will help with further discussions if required. Other than that how is the rest of the HVAC and the vehicle in general?
  • mbass426mbass426 Member Posts: 3
    Has anyone heard what the new colors will be? I am hoping since you said whistler white is discontinued that they will come out with a metallic or pearl white. I asked my dealer and he hadn't heard that the colors were changing.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    The next order call for LR2s is not till August so dealers won't know what the new color is until then.
  • dmusc90dmusc90 Member Posts: 9
    I posted earlier about AC issues with my new LR2. After nearly two months of ownership, it appears that the AC is only slow to kick in. After the car and AC are running for about 10 to 15 minutes, it works fine. Bottom Line: I think it is a bit slower than other cars to kick with good cooling capability. I am now up to 2000 miles and continue to be very impressed with the SUV. I love the ride and the great (upgraded) sound system. However, as it has been discussed, the bluetooth is worthless for anyone with a PDA (which I assume is large percentage of new buyers and potential buyers). Anybody know anything new regarding bluetooth upgrades from LR that are on the horizon? What about compatability with the Iphone being introduced this month?
  • k8yk8y Member Posts: 4
    I am loving my black/black with Tech & Lighting packages! Biggest surprise was that my Palm Treo 680 paired up easily, dialed and received calls...I was prepared for the possibility that it wouldn't work and I'd have to get another phone!

    With hopes that my thoughts, comments and experiences with this awesome vehicle will help another buyer/leasee, as the forums have helped me (decide), I will add more soon (when I have a little more time & after a few more days of driving)

    One thing, f you are in the Los Angeles area, I highly recommend Hamid (Internet Manager) at Hornburg Land Rover in West Hollywood...he gave me by far the best deal out of 6 dealers I contacted and he is so easy to deal with! (enter the keyword "hornburg" into "Search This Discussion" and references to him come up with great feedback several times) :)
  • roberto6roberto6 Member Posts: 23
    I have tried to get more info from LR re PDA and specifically Blackberry. They say it will not work. Last option I have is to try a BlackBerry with Blue tooth version 2.0.

    Does anyone know if the LR2 bluetooth is Version 2.0 ?
    Thanks
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Yes the LR2 uses V 2.0 of Bluetooth.
  • 47074707 Member Posts: 12
    I went for a test drive yesterday... I'm truly amazed !!! The engine has enough power to be pleasant, the transmission is very smooth and as soon as we drove out of the dealership I knew that the suspension was really fantastic. The seats ( made by Recaro ) are extremely comfortable and the visibility is great. Couldn't find anything wrong during that test drive. I went afterward to the Acura dealer and tried the RDX. What a let down !!!!!!!!! I could'nt beleive it. The suspension is very hard and not refined at all and that's coming from a guy who drives a Cooper S Works right now ! After a couple of kilometers I just turned around and came back to the dealership !!! I had enough. But I would have taken the LR2 for a drive all afternoon long.

    My choice is made: the LR2. However I'm thinking about a Stornoway with the Alpaca interior and just can't find a picture of the Alpaca interior anywhere. Can someone post a couple of good pictures of that interior please ! I would really like to see it before ordering. Even that dealer has only black interiors...
  • 08lr308lr3 Member Posts: 76
    Howdy

    I get my LR2 on Monday at high noon! I'll send details I get moving on down the road. She sure is pretty - all 3 packages, ipod adapter, mud flaps, running boards. roof rack and side door protectors are on order. Nazca Sand/Ebony i would post a pic, but don't see how to do that. :cry:

    for the past 1.5 weeks I've been driving a 07 Jag x-type. eehh its ok. nav is sort of hard to 'dig' down to find good POI's. Sun roof rattles when open, sound system is good, except little rear speaker rattle. gas mileage is poor for a small v6. nice ride, handles great when you really push is on curves etc, and use the manual up and down slider to shift. gas reminder comes on very late. 25 miles left. yikes. My LR2 is late, was supposed to pick up on the 10th of June, so I voiced my disappointment, and was called a few days later to come pick up the xtype. :shades: plus they installed the mud flaps at no charge.
  • roberto6roberto6 Member Posts: 23
    Thank you. That may well be my problem !
  • eight74eight74 Member Posts: 6
    You can see some images on the Land Rover website.

    http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/home.htm

    Just click on the "start exploring" link to launch the LR2 mini-site. You can most info about the LR2 including Picts and Video.
    Enjoy
  • johnsongajohnsonga Member Posts: 3
    Would love to hear what you think about the Ipod adapter. I have had my LR2 for 2 months now and when I first asked the dealer they said the adapter did not work with the Nav system.

    I have been using the audio connector and have found the quality to be lacking versus the radio or CD.

    Thanks
  • 08lr308lr3 Member Posts: 76
    Not true, works with nav. it also has a USB and RCA l/r audio in for what ever you like. You cant use the audio connector and the ipod input at the same time, they share the aux in on the stereo. more to come I get her today !!!!!! YIPEEEE :P
  • jlr3jlr3 Member Posts: 4
    See note #577. Have you tried to lower your temp selection at the start of the journey but still leavibng it in AUTO.
    This worked for me.
    No issues with the AC and 70F is a good temp selection.
  • jlr3jlr3 Member Posts: 4
    No you will not have to set the system to MAX AC in AUTO.
    The system is a DUAL temperature zone AUTO system.
    Both the dfront driver and front passenger can have independant temperature set points and the system will compensate for any climatic conditions. Best method is to start your journey at a mid temp point in AUTO(around 72F). Try this set point for at least 30 minutes in a variety of ambients/weather conditions.
    If your comfort is ok and you are jhappy with the system all is well. If you wish to be cooler and more airflow then select 70F (repeat exercise until you get the temperature slection you want). Visa versa if you are not warm enough slect a high tmperature setting. The system will also monitor the interior humidity to prevent interior front screen misting in cool ambients. It really is that clever! What is your verdict so far?
  • jlr3jlr3 Member Posts: 4
    Have you tried to start your journey with a lower temperature set point in AUTO? Try it as the AUTO system works like this....
    It will increase the cooling capacity, blower level automatically until the various sensors indicate that comfort has been achieved. I am not sure what temperature set point you use normally but I suggest at least a 2F reduction to start with (for example if you are a 72F person then try 70F). The temperatures on the dial has no meaning/relation to the outside air temperature or temperature coming out of the registers it is for indication only.
    Either way I have had mine since launch and once I have found my desired temperature set point the AC has worked fine in all ambients.
  • mbass426mbass426 Member Posts: 3
    Did you purchase the Ipod adapter through your dealers? If so, was it part of a package, or just the adapter itself and for how much?

    In Houston the LR2's seem to be going for MSRP. Does that sound right to everyone or should I be getting a better deal? I have yet to see one on the road, however, my dealer says they are selling fast.
  • trburtontrburton Member Posts: 22
    Anyone who buys a Land Rover LR2 is buying multiple problems. A lemon auto, a dealer for which you are the poor cousin & not worth the attention of a Range Rover. Land Rover credit is known for underhanded dealings, & Ford Motor company not admitting the many problems with Land Rovers. My Freelander had the transmission replaced at 45000 miles & engine replaced at 55000 miles. Land Rover refused to honor an engine claim. Why do you think the LR2 will be any better?
  • 08lr308lr3 Member Posts: 76
    ipod adapter from the dealer....

    its routed via the aux input, shared with the jack in the console. the official accessory is the Audio Connectivity Module. it was 350 plus 99 install, something like that, don't have the invoice in front of me. i was thinking the display on the stereo would show the songs, but it doesn't, you still have to look at the pod to see the songs etc.

    but, loving it with a big 40 miles on the clock for the first day. PLUS it rained most of the day. :mad:

    day 2 starts tomorrow. (: cant wait to drive it more. Filled it up at 319 a gal, cost 55 bucks.

    i noticed some condensation on the headlights today after my drive back to work after picking her up. anyone have any thing like that yet? maybe it was on the outside not the inside. lets home huh.
  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    Am I mistaken, or is BG54 back with a new name?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    A little condensation there is normal. The head lights have weep holes in the bottom of the lens to let moisture out.
  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,288
    :D

    I was wondering the same thing myself. Hopefully it won't be as bad/annoying as last time. And I still think Edmund's needs an 'ignore' feature.
  • ronxlr2ronxlr2 Member Posts: 46
    have you tried a different audio cable? I'm pretty critical when it comes to sound quality, and I haven't been able to tell a difference between the ipod through the auxiliary port and the cd player or sirius radio.
  • yeomancavalryyeomancavalry Member Posts: 3
    So far been beating the crap out the LR2, still doing well. Everyday going up and down some steep grades. So far now, the new LR2 is doing fine. Yeah, LR had its issues in the past but I'm okay when any company fixes its issues rather than shunning it altogether. :shades:
  • eight74eight74 Member Posts: 6
    Can you control the iPod through the steering wheel or the main console?

    That is the only feature I look for in the adapter. As you all know that the display of the console can only show a certain number of characters of the song title. Therefore, any long title is cut off and replaced with "..."

    I have instaled a LoBoy mount from Pro-fit on the dash to hold an ipod or a phone. I have better visibility on the device and my eyes are still on the road. (I'll post a pict)
  • k8yk8y Member Posts: 4
    Instead of getting the iPod accessory installed, I bought a Griffin Centerstage iPod holder with a built-in metal flip stand that I insert into the CD slot. Looks pretty good and the visual and ergonomic placement is perfect...Easy to remove and was only $28!:

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8001093&st=IPOD+CASE&lp=10&type=product&cp=1&id=1155848394369

    LOVE MY LR2!!!!
  • muellerfilmmuellerfilm Member Posts: 10
    I want the iphone, anyone pair the Apple iphone with the LR2 yet?
  • 08lr308lr3 Member Posts: 76
    well, some what disappointed with the holder and lack of interaction with the head unit. nothing shows up in the display so you are required to still look at the pod, instead of the larger cd/fm display I was hoping for. plus i have to move this thing, there is a glare on sunny days due to the dealer placing on the left had side of the steering wheel. but, overall the sound is very crisp and it charges during its docking session and I can control the movement of the tracks with the wheel controls, plus i need to read a bit more on how to move between play lists etc.

    I had the side protection put on yesterday. looks really nice. now I just need the roof rails and I'll be complete. the factory mats are pathetically thin, very disappointed, very.

    AND LEAVE IT TO ME TO GIVE MY OPINION ;)

    I noticed on the demo's exhaust yesterday, with just over 1000 mies, that the nice clean silver muffler is now dark/burnt/dirty rust color. I think I will require some sort of heat shield to cover this - it takes away from the clean look.

    took my first jaunt yesterday. she did very will. Popped into France by mistake and the nav told me welcome to francy (: despite thr little picky things I have I do love it. Cant wait for more driving. I'm planing a trip to Paris for the tour de France (: :shades:

    the next task is to get my bike to fit inside. easy fix as I've done this in my RX300 back in the day.
  • snide1snide1 Member Posts: 1
    Enough LR2 iPod fitment already! I am seriously considering purchasing an LR2 to replace my 1994 Volvo 850-T, on which am cruising past 197,000 miles. I am keenly aware of Land Rover's "less than sterling" reputation for quality but, I am happy to see they have actually used several Volvo components in the construction of the LR2. Presently I am reading this forum religiously in an effort to get a "true feedback" from owners vice "biased car testers." So, please! Let us get on with your feelings and opinions regarding the LR2. Leave the iPods to the "techies" and "teenies."
  • andybl29andybl29 Member Posts: 8
    I have had my LR2 since the end of April. I have absolutely no complaints, I love pretty much everything about it! I live in Tampa, FL and have seen only a couple on the road--which actually continues my feeling of having such a new neat vehicle. Mine is Whistler White/Alpaca interior w/ lighting package. I have driven around 3000 miles so far and am averaging 21 mpg, and that is primarily city driving. I have had some rattling around the doors (up near the seatbelt adjust) which has been slightly annoying. I will get it checked out at my 1st service appointment--that is my only complaint! So I'm doing pretty good with my awesome LR! Definitely recommend purchasing one to anyone who is on the fence or considering a comparable vehicle.
  • drsm00thdrsm00th Member Posts: 10
    Iphone pairs with the LR2 without any issues. Actually get more screen info on the display than my prior phone.
  • 08lr308lr3 Member Posts: 76
    you paired the iphone - wonderful news
  • bbernahlbbernahl Member Posts: 4
    I was about ready to buy a loaded LR2 today. The salesman and I couldn't get my new iPhone to pair with the LR2 however. I turned on bluetooth on the iPhone and he asked the LR2 to discover it - it couldn't... We tried twice. He said LRs are notorious for not pairing smart phones. I'm not convinced he knew how to do it. Anyone know how to pair a phone to the LR2? - maybe I'll try again. This was strike one. :cry: While checking out the Nav, I was disappointed to find that you can't display POI information while driving. For example, "where is the nearest gas station?" or "show me nearby hotels". Apparently many features are locked out while in motion for safety reasons. Strike 2. :cry: Finally, they were undervaluing my trade and giving me the story that, while my car is in pristine shape, the kelly blue book dealer trade values are inflated. They were even under my carmax bid. Once I told them, they matched but I still think they are $1k low. Strike 3. :cry:

    I went across the street and test drove an X3. The iPhone paired immediately. You can access POIs while driving (although the nav unit isn't very easy to use, requiring lots of knob pushing and twirling). The X3 had some other advantages:
    - Great sun roof (huge plus a real shade)
    - Roof rails included
    - Center storage space
    - Better acceleration
    Negatives
    - $6k more
    - Clunky nav unit
    - Sound system not as nice
    - Not as capable off road
    - Where I live, every third car is a black or silver BMW

    Still, I love the looks of the LR2 and find the cabin layout superior. If only I could get the phone to pair. I hate to pay the extra bucks for the technology package and not be able to use my phone and have a nav unit that requires me to get off the highway to access POI info.

    ** Any hints on pairing would be greatly appreciated!! **
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I am pretty sure you can access quick POIs while driving. I will have to try it though and see.
  • presspress Member Posts: 17
    When I first heard about the new LR2 10 months ago, I thought this is my new SUV. When our local dealer was unloading the first car off the trailer, I was there. I test drove it and liked it, but as of today, something is holding me back from taking the plunge. While I like the looks of the car and realize that this is a totally new LR from the ground up, I still have some issues with the car. Here is what surprises me.

    1. With a car that makes such great effort to have the latest techie "stuff" I can't believe they forgot to put in Homelink as a standard feature (not even an option). I have older genie garage door openers that take the clunkier big remotes. I don't want to have three remotes hanging on my visor or spend $600 to change openers. A bad oversight.

    2. The center console looks cheap and a half-a-- attempt to fill a space. Not up to snuff like the other LR's which have some of the best designed center consoles. They couldn't even put a lid on the console!

    3. What gives with that little LCD screen, when they have that nice bright screen for the NAV. Most of the information will come on that little screen. No way.

    4. I really wanted roofrails. I look at every SUV on the road and the majority come with roof rails as standard equipment. NOT on the LR2. They don't even have them in stock. They have the bike rack, luggage rack and other accessories that require the roof rails. But they still don't have the roof rails in stock. What is that all about? In the LR tradition with all the offroad touted claims, how do you do it w/o a roof rack.

    5. I will need a roof rack, b/c the trunk looks a little small. My son's batbag won't fit between the two wheel wells. Oh yeah, I looked at the reversible floor board in the trunk. A nice touch until I realized the spare beneath it is a stamped steel rim.

    6. The tailgate does not have a glass opening top or the nice split tailgate as on the sport. Not good if I want to take some skis or a board, since I can't use the roof rack.

    7. I priced the tow hitch and I thought that was a bit steep for a relatively simple accessory.

    If it was one of the above items that the car didn't have, I don't think I would have hesitated buying the car. But collectively, I think this is what has stopped me from buying the car. Maybe LR will make some mid year corrections, but for now if my present ride holds out, I may just wait for the next years model and hope LR reads these blogs and responds to customers needs. Either that or the cost accountants change their minds. In interviews with the designers, they thought about the car in total. But as usual, the cost accountants rule the roost. I suspect in an attempt to keep the car uder 40k, some standard features had to give. I still really like the car and wish LR well, but may just wait. With all the summer deals on cars right now, I may be tempted to look elsewhere.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Wait till the fall...

    I have it on good authority that some changes are coming in the fall.
  • bbernahlbbernahl Member Posts: 4
    Good news. I went to another dealer and we got my iPhone paired up right away. Phone book download automatically. I played with the Nav a bit more and found it ok. I wish they didn't have the function lockout - but they were probably mandated to do this. Not as good as a Garmin Nuvi but has the advantage of always being available and integrated. I also found a dealer just a bit farther from home that gave me a good trade. I turn in my 1999 911 C4 tomorrow for a red LR2 with all the options including the ipod audio module tomorrow.
  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,288
    Ohh, that is good b/c just like press I'm on the fence too. I know you probably can't tell us details (feel free to share if you can :)

    But can you at least let us know a date? It could influence my timetable.

    TIA.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I don't know dates I don't even know any details beyond that in the fall some changes will be made.

    No, one will tell me anymore then that.
  • dmusc90dmusc90 Member Posts: 9
    Anyone pair an LG VX9900 up with the LR2? The web site says there is "partial function". I'm skeptical about everything and bluetooth with the car.
  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,288
    Thanks for the reply.

    (fingers crossed)
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