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But what is funny that now you have people on here pointing fingers and calling people haters and all i can say is you must have one of the good ones. I test drove one le camry before i bought my se and it didnt have the hesitation problem and my car at first didnt have the problem. And since then i have test drove 3 other le model camrys and no hesitation problems so that tells me that they all dont have the problem or they didnt yet. I do think it is a computer issue and a shifting issue with this car. My car doesnt hesitate as bad when it isnt really hot outside. So is a sensor that gets to hot and makes it at like that I dont no, But the toyota service departments that i have taken my car to dont seem to think anything except it drives like a camry. I have had one dealership tell me that they do no about the hesitation problems they are the one that told me to call the 1800 number. but they told me there is no fix for it and they dont no if toyota will fix it. SO to all of your critics out there that think we are a bunch of haters well i will tell you this, I have tried to do the right thing by going to the service departments and the toyota rep and the 1800 number and nobody wants to help, so now i have to get dirty. I shouldnt have to get pissed off about a car. I have much bigger things in life to worry about. But my Family comes first and their saftey. This car may never get me in a car wreck but why would i want to risk it? So i am serious about this issue. I am not leting up. Toyota do me right is all i ask and everyone else on here. You took my money and that was good enough for you and u liked taking it. Show me that i can trust you enough to buy another car.
What I question is the claims by some alluding to the issue being a universal problem, or one which is common to all Camry, Avalon, Highlander, etc. I don't believe that's the case at all, in spite of all insistence to the contrary. I'm seeing far too much factual evidence to prove otherwise.
Also, there are some things being said about people at risk of being killed, incidences of broadside situations, horrificly failed attempts in complaint resolution, useless lemon laws, forum operators being manipulated by automakers, etc, etc, which I see as one sided and seemingly embellished merely to make a point. I feel these are unwarranted and unproven conclusions which may very well be nothing more than expressions of frustration by most, but for a few, motives seem to go way beyond that.
Is there a conspiracy? No, I don't think it goes that far. However, I believe there is a subtle form of mass hysteria at work, where the problem is picked up by others not affected by it and they join in the fray because they have some other reason to dislike their car.
such a good point. someone has questioned and others are probably wondering the same thing: if they've sold a good number of camrys and only a rare few (in this case 2) are complaining and their problems haven't been resolved, why are they (the dealerships) not empowered to buy back those vehicles and/or provide another brand new one in its place?
certainly they could fix them and return them to used car status and make money in the process.
but, wait - that assumes they can fix them...they haven't to date, so maybe it is beyond them or the manufacturer to do so at this time. so stick the loyal customer for working for resolution. force him into arbitration or lemmon law proceedings. :sick: makes you think.
that certainly isn't moving forward in a customer-centric manner is it?
all the more reason to do the right thing and to pull them back and give the few (?) valuable customers who no doubt are very dissatisfied with their purchase where the problems cannot be resolved in a customer-centric manner a new vehicle... send those few vehicles back to the manufacturer for spare parts, and/or further testing.
yes/no?
maybe that's unrealistic I know, but one wonders. :shades:
The calls to customer service and their not knowing of the problem reminds me of GM and the intake manifold gasket leaks and deterioration. They had never heard of it.
I will check Camry and Accord and Hyundai's products on my next shopping trip in a couple of years to replace a car. So I find this very interesting. The newspaper post about many problems in recalls that don't make the media hoopla also concerns me. How many things don't we know about because of good PR techniques?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I've been wondering when someone would close in on this line of "logic" as the ultimate dismissive. Funny, I haven't been seeing vitriolic posts over at the Accord discussions - which suggests to me, anyway, that the Camry "belly-achers" really do have legitimate concerns.
Your cooperation would be very much appreciated!
http://www.gembapantarei.com/2006/08/when_did_toyota_get_to_be_a_company_like_th- is.html
I notice the same people on this board as were on the HL board 2 years ago and the Avalon board?
The cruise control holds the target speed perfectly, but while doing it shifts wildly to maintain the speed. For all practical purposes, it is worthless. Without using the cruise control, I can easily keep the car from downshifting unnecessarily by just having a soft foot on the accelerator. My only consolation is I have another vehicle that I can use for long trips and/or highway cruising.
Although I also have the hesitation problem, I try to avoid all driving situations which might cause a need for quick or split second acceleration. A little bit of defensive driving goes a long way of avoiding this issue.
Drive like a granny, and you won't see the hesitation problem (and since you'd be hard of hearing you also wouldn't hear the shifts & engine revs from the cruise control shifting problem.)
If I still lived in a metro area, I would sell this car in 6 nanoseconds....as it would surely end up in an accident.
Other than these two problems, the car has been great for 5K miles.
What do you want me to do with this car that has alot of good things going for it but not in the drive train. It looks pretty sitting there but if you took it out for a test drive you would think it was a piece of Sh_t. MY gas mileage went from 28mpg to barely getting 24mpg. and i havent changed anything different in my driving. I drive at least 90percent hwy. You tell me what you want from me. You want me to ignore that i have a saftey issue with my car and a shifting issue. You cant even use cruise because it sucks so bad.
I want answers what do you want me to do with this car? I am fed up waiting on toyota to tell me something. I want to no now so I can take action one way or another.
Toyota do u think we are all nuts? Do you think that we are abunch of haters trying to drag you down? I mean what are you thinking. Do you want us to go away? I will go away but fix my car or give me another car or refund. And even if you did that i would prob buy another car from you just because u showed that you cared. All I want is someone to show me that they cared. They liked taken my 24,000 dollars for the car.No show me that you still care when i am having problems with you product.
I want answers if you are brave enough to tell us.
Some advice for you and others with this hesitation problem, keep posting about your experiences with the issue whenever it re-occurs. Describe exactly what happens in good detail. Keep the problem in Toyota's face.
And for those that have posted once and then just read the forum to see if there is a resolution, please keep us (that includes the Toyota reps) updated on your situation so people will see that this hesitation issue isn't a rarity.
People don't want to just read venting, they want to understand what is happening so they can evaluate and understand the issue as it relates to their own '07 Camry 4-cyl 5AT or when test driving a car while deciding to purchase it or not.
By the way, this '07 Camry hesitation issue has spread all around the other vehicle forums here at Edmunds and it is having an effect on purchase decisions.
If a host feels you're posting too much a host will let you know. Otherwise it's a free country and as one reader I appreciate your posts.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Personally I called 3 dealerships and asked them whether they heard about these problems, but their answer was "that is how camry is and they never heard about any problems". :confuse:
Now I am not sure what to buy. I was waiting for last 1 year to buy this car. I followed all the spy photos, was excited about the autoshow, loved the shape and features when I saw it. It is very shocking news for me. I hope toyota comes up with some solution soon, so that I can buy a Camry soon.
Show them things are not right and put the brakes on purchases.
Having said all that, they did have a gorgeous silver hybrid as well that caught my eye.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/results.cfm
Yahoo 2007 Camry Reviews
Hopefully, when I go there, they won't chage their mind.
Did you all (with problems) reported to NHTSA? I found only 25 complains there. Hopefully toyota will come up with something in their next toyota bulletin and I can still buy a camry.
I think NHTSA is basically worthless for anything not perceived to be a safety problem (and hesitation has to be bad enough for it to be dangerous).
I know how badly I need a car! I am driving my 1990 toyota corolla that I drove throughout my student life. As I said I will like to buy a camry after toyota comes up with a solution.
That's what my son and I did when he recently bought his first car, a Prius. The salesman was very accommodating and understood what we were doing. He was also very thorough in explaining the intricacies of the car (Steven Toyota, Harrisonburg, VA for anyone interested).
I'm not so sure Toyota will give you the same treatment as others on this forum. What's unsaid is I bet some (not all) of the complainers aren't particularly tactful or polite when they talk to the dealer or the Toyota Customer Experience Center.
The dealership is going to change the valve body which was recommended by A Toyota bulliten. I have not read one post stating that a revised valve body solved all the problems.
TC004-06 3RD - 4TH GEAR SHIFT FLARE (REVISED)
8/7/2006 - 2007 model year ES 350 vehicles.
Some customers may experience a sharp increase in RPM between the 3rd to 4th
gear shift point during the first ten minutes of operation after a cold start. A revised transmission valve body has been developed to address this concern.
NOTE: This TSIB ONLY applies to vehicles that have been confirmed to have the customer concerns listed above
Live and Learn :mad:
I am deciding whether to buy an Accord 06 or a Camry 07. Seems to me that if there is a smoke, there is fire. A Camry 07 may have more problems than an Accord 06?
This discussion exists for folks to discuss whatever difficulties they may be having with their 07 Camrys.
Those who want to discuss the general state of Toyota as a manufacturer need to check out the numerous Toyota-related discussions on the Automotive News & Views board.
Those who want to berate the people who are reporting problems need to park those comments outside the Forums.
Your cooperation would be much appreciated.
I'll tell them about it again Thursday when I go back for the second time to repair flaking paint.
Anyone had any experience trading in an '07?