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I thought I had heard everything.....
It is my opinion that sites like this are to post problems with our vehicles not to degrade or put down anothers problems. And yes I do feel unsafe especially since they said it was the GAS TANK and they have already replace it once. GEE, GAS, FLAMES, BURNS, DIE!!!! In addition to just the noise the entire care vibrates throughout. Put your family and children in it and see if you feel safe.
No thumps, noises or vibrations!
Unsafe is your fear or opinion, not fact.
Sorry.......
The dealer also drove several other 07 Camry's on their lot and said they found the same noise. Do you think they'll share this info with new customers. Doubt it!
I now have a case on file with headquarters but with no quartantees of anything ever being done about it. It's all pending on the number of complaints that are filed. Headquarters also stated if it was not considered a safety issue then more than likely it would not be recalled or dealt with.
I also REFUSE to believe that this is an acceptable noise in a car that costs over $25,000. So I decided to take it one step further in hope to have this issue escalated to the right people. I called the General Manager/Owner of Iowa City Toytota to make sure he was aware of this issue and with the cars he was selling on his lot. He said he would explore the options and get back to me a couple of days. He suggested maybe undercoating the car, not the right fix in my mind. Anyway have not hear back from him and I have since left 2 other messages for him to call me and still no call. I guess they got their money so now the customers is SOL.
Never again will I purchase a toyota again and especially through IOWA CITY TOYOTA!!!
Can you tell us what the symptoms or noises specfically are? Is this a slosshing sound of the fuel in the fuel tank? Does this only happen with a full tank as reported, if so, when you fill do you fill to the first pump shutoff click...or continue to fill more? Does this happen if the car is 1/2 full or 2/4 full? If the car is stopped, can you re-create the noise by pushing the the car back and forth or side to side, or up and down? The thumping that is felt in the steering wheel, is that a one time thump? Is the sound a sloshing liquid sound, or a thump like a mechanical sound? With the exhaust system cold, have you grabbed the exhaust system and tried to wiggle it side to side to see whether it's banging against anything? Anything else you can explain about when the symptoms do or do not happen?
I have a '07 LE 4cylinder, and have not heard any of these types of sounds in almost a year of ownership.
My thumping sound is minor, but is always there with a full tank. I am not bothered by it. It goes away after about 1/2 hour of driving. I have read that many people have the same sound. As someone said, this is a design problem, so the dealer has no way to "repair" it, unless Toyota comes up with a re-design.
I've never heard anything and obviously doesn't bother me, but I'm going to try and see if I can recreate the symptoms to hear what you guys are hearing.
They said they could not get the car to exhibit the problem when they took it out for a test drive. They checked the TCM/ECM and they were up to date...and my vehicle doesn't fall in the VIN range on the TSB's...so they said there wasn't really anything they could do. The only thing they could think of is that the car is still "learning" how I drive. As for my poor gas mileage (19mpg in city), they suggested that the engine still needs "breaking in".
My car has about 1000 miles on it and I've had it since the beginning of January. Anyone have an idea about how long it should take for the car to learn how I drive, and for the engine to "break in"?
As for the gas mileage of 19 mpg in the city, that's not really much off the pace, and it depends on how you define "city." The new EPA test procedures will lower the EPA estimate to 21 mpg for the Camry 4-cylinder. See this.
I have gotten as low as 20.5 mpg in "city" driving in my smaller town, with short-trip driving, in my '05 Camry XLE 4-cyl. 5A, which has the essentially the same engine/transmission as the '07 model. This excludes "top offs" of only a few gallons which are almost certain to give inaccurate results.
If you've only accumulated 1000 miles in nearly 3 months, that tells me your trips are short (and in the cold weather no less, if you're far enough north), so I wouldn't expect great mileage.
If the car has had the fix for the transmission problem put in place, does that mean it has been solved? The one I am looking at has 10k miles and still 50k left on the factory powertrain warranty, or at least that's what I am being told as well...could anybody shed some light on this feel like I can put my foot in the water here...... :confuse:
lobsterboy
You mean they didn't get the exhaust tight at the factory? Wow.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
It should be doing better.
#2 If tire pressure is ok then it's your right foot that is the problem.
My worst tank (out of 34 fillups) of 90% city driving was 22.71 mpg.
Best mpg (highway) was 33.14.
Average for 13,000 miles - 26.86 mpg.
but I could make it 4-5 mpg less quite easily..........
Do you realize how much variation there might be in "city driving", say Manhattan vs Great Falls MT.
The centre consol vibtates with a tinny sound as well.
dAVE c
Last night when I tried to open my sunroof, I pulled the little "switch" back (towards the rear of the car) and nothing happened. I tried again and the glass tilted UP! Pushed the switch forward and the glass tilted down so far that the motor sounded like it was going to burn up and the glass shatter. In other words, it didn't automatically sense that it was closed and tried to keep closing. The roof actually buckled a little bit! After regaining my composure, I toyed around with it so that it looked "normal."
SO! I've read about this "initialization" and "normalization" but is that something that I can do or should I take it in? I didn't purchase the extended warranty (Platinum Warranty or whatever they call it) but I'm seriously thinking about buying it now...
Thanks for the advice/help. I really do appreciate it!
As far as the console, mine used to rattle and squeak. It doesn't anymore. The dealer was unable to fix the squeak/rattle, so I fixed it myself. The noise in my car was coming from around the shifter area at the bottom of the console (where park, drive, reverse, etc. are) I lifted that piece up around the shifter.....it came up easily and nothing broke.....and I put some padding underneath the "cover" and around the sides of it as well. Now the rattle is gone.
As far as your dash, I have an '07 LE I4 5sp., the part of the dash where the clock is used to rattle in my car also. I lifted that piece up.......it comes up very easily and you can practically lift the entire "thing" out. I used a butter knife and lifted it up, I put some padding completely around the edge, inserted the "piece" back down, and now the rattles are gone completely.
Hope that helps. Feel free to message me if you would like more info. I would be happy to explain everything in more detail.
I had a TSB performed, which reset the computer, and was told I needed to drive 200 miles to set the computer. I drive with a pretty heavy foot and am getting around 24-28 mpg, with about 60/40 city/highway driving.
How "heavy" your foot is will DEFINITELY affect your mpg.
If that doesn't work, you're still covered by the car's warranty, so a visit to the dealer won't cost you anything.
I also have a 2007 LE Camry, and my mileage just improved to 19.5 (premium fuel though, was just trying once). Its fairly new, just reaching 1000 miles now, just over a month old.
TIRE Pressure - The service manager said 32. And u mention 36. Which one is correct? I have 32. Maybe thats why I have less mileage?
Please let me know ASAP, taking a trip to Washington morrow from Philadelphia. Would lieke good mileage....
Thanks
Your ride will be a little stiffer and handling a little better.
If you run too high, you will notice more wear in the center of the tire tread but I have 13,000 miles on mine with no adverse wear patterns.
As for alloys, wouldn't it make more sense just to have steel wheels in NYC? (Granted, those plastic wheel covers look cheesy, but you don't have to worry about theft or scraping your nice alloys while parallel parking.)
But, on a long trip, going the speed limit vs. much higher will.
I start to hate my 07 camry Le little bit. :confuse:
I believe they set the fuel mixture a little richer and adjusted the shift points a little higher.
Before my mpg was around 18-21, with about 50/50 city and highway driving.
Now my mpg is around 24-28, with about 50/50 city and highway driving.
Also, I drive with a pretty heavy foot, so I assume that if I was "easier" on the car that my mpg would easily be around 30, if not more.
My v-6 has been getting 17-18 in the city in the winter and may have got close to 19-20 as the weather warmed up this week.
I went on my first Highway drive for about 300 miles and seem to be getting closer to the EPG they say 27-30 mpg.
I have had the revised trans and believe that it is affecting my 1st though 4th gears which is giving me bad mpg in the city. Any thoughts?
I know there is a TSB for the V6, however, I am not sure what the "title" is for it. When I went to my dealer they pulled up a list of all the TSB's and showed them to me.......I saw some for the V6.
You may go back to the same dealer or to a different one. I could complain (while trying to be nice) and tell them they NEED to fix/adjust something..........ask them what they would do or how they would feel if they were you. Ask to test drive a different Camry and see if it "duplicates" the problem.........I told the dealer that for my last car and they said, "Oh no, thats fine, we'll take another look."
You may also want to call Toyota and complain and see what they can do, if anything.
Good luck!
Here is the noise story. After I fill the tank up, and Yes I stop filling when the handle clicks, (I do NOT top the tank off) the noise begins. If I am at a complete stop and accelerate I can hear and feel a thumping noise as if there is something in the trunk falling over (and other passengers in the car hear and feel it also). It does not happen if I am stopped and put the car in reverse only seems to happen if a forward motion of the car. The thump in the steering wheel corresponds to the sound of the thump, so every time I hear the noise I feel the vibration it the steering. As the gas tank goes to a little over 1/2 filled i no longer hear the sound. I have not moved the exhaust pipe or rocked the car. I am assuming that the dealership mechanics did all that before they REPLACED THE ORIGINAL GAS TANK. This repair DID NOT solve the problem it is still there. According to Toyota in CA the problem is not a problem and NOBODY else seems to have it according to their records.
If the user deletes it, then it disappears from the forum, but the id# is used up.
Edit: bingo, kiawah - you nailed it!!