2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

torn8o

Well I made an appointment at dealer #2 for Monday and will see if they'll fix my dash rattles. Hopefully they'll be able to replicate the problem, given that the rattles are far less frequent in warm weather. The service guy claimed to have no idea about any TSB for dash rattles on the 07 Camrys. You'd think there would be a number or something where they'd check for TSBs, since they are a service department. We'll see what happens.

6abc

I have the same problem in my new 2007 Toyota Camry. I took it to 2 different dealers and they agreed it was the gas tank. They have ripped out the gas tank and replaced it with a new one. That did not help. I called Toyota in California and have a case file going now. My dealer drove 3 other cars and found the same noise. They have now had my car for over a week.I REFUSE to believe that this is an acceptable noise in a car that costs over $25,000. It is not just the noise but you can feel a thump in the steering wheel when you accelerate with a full tank of gas. PLEASE notify Toyota in CA at 1 800 331 4331 of the noise so they can start a report on it and maybe we can resolve the problem. As of now they are telling me IT IS YOUR CAR IT IS YOUR NOISE. I feel unsafe with a full tank of gas in the car. Never again will I purchase a toyota.

jg6

Unsafe???

I thought I had heard everything.....

davidliu01

My 2007 Camry might have the same problem. The static only happen when I move the brake a little hard in certain speed. The static will go away as long as either I release the brake or stop the car. Is it the same problem you have? Not yet know whether it is normal.

6abc

Dear jg6

It is my opinion that sites like this are to post problems with our vehicles not to degrade or put down anothers problems. And yes I do feel unsafe especially since they said it was the GAS TANK and they have already replace it once. GEE, GAS, FLAMES, BURNS, DIE!!!! In addition to just the noise the entire care vibrates throughout. Put your family and children in it and see if you feel safe.

jg6

I drive one everyday and have for the last 12 months and 13,000 miles. I've filled the tank 33 times, taken short and and cross country trips.

No thumps, noises or vibrations!

Unsafe is your fear or opinion, not fact.

Sorry.......

jofallon

Replacing a gas tank is a fact; I don't think a dealer would do it for a lark.

dmathews3

sounds to me that they didn't put enough or any baffles in the tank when it was built. This way you don't get that splashing around and the thumping noise as all the fuel rushes to the front or back of the tank. Same when turning too. It that is the case my bet is you will have to live with it unless they redesign the tank and out of the kindness of their heart, Toyota gives you one of the redesigns and we all know by now Toyota doesn't have a kind heart. :sick:

finn60

I have the same problem in my new 2007 Toyota Camry. I took it my dealership, Iowa City Toyota and they agreed/confirmed it was the gas tank with the Toyota Tech Resource Center in Kansas City. The Resource Center said other complaints were being filed for this same issue. The Iowa City Toyota Service Center filed a case for my car with Kansas City Resource and told me to call to call a 1 800 number (Toyota Headquarters in California.) Other then that, there was nothing they could do, it was the design of the tank. My dealer had the nerve to tell me to buy a couple of good CD's and turn up the volume up. Basically Live WITH IT!
The dealer also drove several other 07 Camry's on their lot and said they found the same noise. Do you think they'll share this info with new customers. Doubt it!
I now have a case on file with headquarters but with no quartantees of anything ever being done about it. It's all pending on the number of complaints that are filed. Headquarters also stated if it was not considered a safety issue then more than likely it would not be recalled or dealt with.
I also REFUSE to believe that this is an acceptable noise in a car that costs over $25,000. So I decided to take it one step further in hope to have this issue escalated to the right people. I called the General Manager/Owner of Iowa City Toytota to make sure he was aware of this issue and with the cars he was selling on his lot. He said he would explore the options and get back to me a couple of days. He suggested maybe undercoating the car, not the right fix in my mind. Anyway have not hear back from him and I have since left 2 other messages for him to call me and still no call. I guess they got their money so now the customers is SOL.

Never again will I purchase a toyota again and especially through IOWA CITY TOYOTA!!!

6abc

So glad to hear you have the same noise. Sorry I don't me glad but the 1800...number at Toyota made me think I was the only customer who had this problem OH it is not a problem. As I mentioned they have already replaced the gas tank so it must be the design of the tank. At least you got more info than I did. My dealer swore they had never heard this problem before. I can't imagine people not noticing this noise it is very loud and annoying and I also REFUSE to live with it. I looked into the 1800 Lemon Law website and you need to have the car repaired 3 times before they will even consider giving you a new one but who wants a new one it will have the same problem. It is up to Toyota to find a fix for it. I am going to contact comsumer report and several newspapers in my area. Maybe if we all so this Toyota will wake up and listen to the customers. OH and also my transmission is acting very strange on cold days. I should have know that once Toyota started making their cars here in the USA it was down hill. They have definetly lost a customer here also. Lets get the word out about the problem and see what we can do.

kiawah

abc,
Can you tell us what the symptoms or noises specfically are? Is this a slosshing sound of the fuel in the fuel tank? Does this only happen with a full tank as reported, if so, when you fill do you fill to the first pump shutoff click...or continue to fill more? Does this happen if the car is 1/2 full or 2/4 full? If the car is stopped, can you re-create the noise by pushing the the car back and forth or side to side, or up and down? The thumping that is felt in the steering wheel, is that a one time thump? Is the sound a sloshing liquid sound, or a thump like a mechanical sound? With the exhaust system cold, have you grabbed the exhaust system and tried to wiggle it side to side to see whether it's banging against anything? Anything else you can explain about when the symptoms do or do not happen?

I have a '07 LE 4cylinder, and have not heard any of these types of sounds in almost a year of ownership.

supergoop

I have a 2007 V6 XLE. I too have the thumping noise but ONLY when the gas tank is full. I never "top-up" when filling gas. I just let it stop automatically, and since I always pay be credit card, I never bother to round off to the nearest dollar.

My thumping sound is minor, but is always there with a full tank. I am not bothered by it. It goes away after about 1/2 hour of driving. I have read that many people have the same sound. As someone said, this is a design problem, so the dealer has no way to "repair" it, unless Toyota comes up with a re-design.

kiawah

So if I understand this correctly, you go to a gas station and fill up, and from that point in time for the next 1/2 hour or so you'll hear a thumping noise when ???? what??? you begin to accelerate from a stop sign? You put on the brakes and stop at a stop sign? You are cruising at interstate speeds? You go around a bend ???

I've never heard anything and obviously doesn't bother me, but I'm going to try and see if I can recreate the symptoms to hear what you guys are hearing.

supergoop

Basically, if the tank is full, I can hear the gasoline sloshing around. After driving around for about 1/2 hour, my tank is no longer full, and the sloshing is not noticible anymore.

finn60

The thumbing noise that I hear is after I fill my tank to full level until down to about a 1/2 of a tank. Sounds like something rolling to the back of your trunk each time I accelerate from a stop sign or light. I do not hear anything when I brake suddenly or stop at stop signs/lights. I do not hear it if I'm leaving from a incline either. It is very annoying and I've had passenger ask me about it. So others can hear it as well, it is not something I try to focus on each time I drive. It is loud enough to hear when the radio is on as well. I understand this is a design of the car issue and there is not much the dealership can do until a redesigned tank is available. But you would think they would want to escalate the concern and show some support before they get many more PO'd customers. They're proud to be the Motor Trend Car of the Year. Then Prove it. 26M a car is alot of money. Sounds like some of you are pretty lucky to not have the issue. I'm wondering if it is more related to V6 engines, more power.

hectma

I took my 2007 4cyl 2007 Camry into the dealer service center. I showed them the TSB's that addressed the shifting problem.
They said they could not get the car to exhibit the problem when they took it out for a test drive. They checked the TCM/ECM and they were up to date...and my vehicle doesn't fall in the VIN range on the TSB's...so they said there wasn't really anything they could do. The only thing they could think of is that the car is still "learning" how I drive. As for my poor gas mileage (19mpg in city), they suggested that the engine still needs "breaking in".

My car has about 1000 miles on it and I've had it since the beginning of January. Anyone have an idea about how long it should take for the car to learn how I drive, and for the engine to "break in"?

210delray

I don't know if the "learning" thing is an excuse or not.

As for the gas mileage of 19 mpg in the city, that's not really much off the pace, and it depends on how you define "city." The new EPA test procedures will lower the EPA estimate to 21 mpg for the Camry 4-cylinder. See this.

I have gotten as low as 20.5 mpg in "city" driving in my smaller town, with short-trip driving, in my '05 Camry XLE 4-cyl. 5A, which has the essentially the same engine/transmission as the '07 model. This excludes "top offs" of only a few gallons which are almost certain to give inaccurate results.

If you've only accumulated 1000 miles in nearly 3 months, that tells me your trips are short (and in the cold weather no less, if you're far enough north), so I wouldn't expect great mileage.

dmathews3

If happening when full I wonder if the tank is so thin that it is bending or the metal is bowing out and then popping back in when the pressure is off of it.

lobsterboy

Don't know if anybody knows this but I am doing some reseach on the 07 camry le v6 here in minnesota that was bought in 06, part of the problems with the transmissions already talked about. It has been fixed or at least that's what I am told and bought off an auction in california.

If the car has had the fix for the transmission problem put in place, does that mean it has been solved? The one I am looking at has 10k miles and still 50k left on the factory powertrain warranty, or at least that's what I am being told as well...could anybody shed some light on this feel like I can put my foot in the water here...... :confuse:

lobsterboy

finn60

I'm being to wonder that myself. Last night was the second time I have taken my 07 LE V6 Camry through my local auto car wash. My car only has 2M miles on it. This was purposely done for a test, When I enter the stall and the water sprays up under the car it makes a loud vibrating sound. High pressure water beating against aluminum type sound. It sounds like the tank is empty which it is 1/2 full now, a loud beating/vibrating drum sound. I have been going to this car wash for years and my last 97 camry never made this sound. The first time the noise was much louder and the tank was full. So this leads me to believe the material underneath is much thinner. They're always trying to make cars lighter, but afraid they may be loosing quality. I'm no engineer but there is definitely something not right here.

6abc

There is definitely something wrong but because several cars have the noise they are saying it is OK. Here is a test for you to do. Take the car out with a full tank of gas and after you have stopped upon acceleration see if you hear and feel a thump. It is as if you had several jugs of water in the trunk of the car and they all fall over when you press on the gas. If you do find you have the noise my advise is PLEASE take it to the dealer have them check it out and tell them you are filing a case with CA. You MUST call the 800-331-4331 at the customer experience center in CA and they will start a case file. In the next few days I will be calling several local newspaper and also trying to get in touch with consumer report. BUT the more people who document the problem the better. All of us who have bought the 2007 I think we have gotten some LEMONS. I also notice the transmission slipping. My electric doors take off on their own and beep and lock whenever they want to. Of course the dealer couldn't find any problem (Just like with the thumping noise). Oh and my revenge is I already talked several people out of buying the 2007 Camary.

alvita

I've had my Camry 07 LE for a month now. Last week I had to take it in for a "thumping sound." The service manager told me that the exhaust was lose and something about the material being next to something that causes heat build-up (still have no idea what he was talking about), but the exhaust was tightened and the 3 hr 45 min trip back home was much quieter.

imidazol97

>service manager told me that the exhaust was loose

You mean they didn't get the exhaust tight at the factory? Wow.

wahlstrom

Well, my 4 cylinder 2007 Camry has 11,600 miles and is still getting 19 mpg in 75% city and 25% highway driving.
It should be doing better.

jg6

#1 Check your tire pressure. I run 36 psi.

#2 If tire pressure is ok then it's your right foot that is the problem.

My worst tank (out of 34 fillups) of 90% city driving was 22.71 mpg.

Best mpg (highway) was 33.14.

Average for 13,000 miles - 26.86 mpg.

but I could make it 4-5 mpg less quite easily..........

wwest

"...90% city driving.."

Do you realize how much variation there might be in "city driving", say Manhattan vs Great Falls MT.

210delray

I always like to compare the two Manhattans -- NYC vs. Kansas.

jg6

Yes!

davec1

I have had my dash looked at 5 times for a rattle. worse in our winter 10-30 below celius. Now the dash has been apart twice, It was fixed , but since has come back . A huge dissapointmet for a toyota.
The centre consol vibtates with a tinny sound as well.

dAVE c

heathinsd

Hi! I was wondering if you (or your dealer) were ever able to get the sunroof issue resolved. I too am now having what I think to be the same issue. I purchased my '07 TC Hybrid on May 19 of last year and absolutely love the car! Aside from a few rattles and squeaks, it's been a great car.

Last night when I tried to open my sunroof, I pulled the little "switch" back (towards the rear of the car) and nothing happened. I tried again and the glass tilted UP! Pushed the switch forward and the glass tilted down so far that the motor sounded like it was going to burn up and the glass shatter. In other words, it didn't automatically sense that it was closed and tried to keep closing. The roof actually buckled a little bit! After regaining my composure, I toyed around with it so that it looked "normal."

SO! I've read about this "initialization" and "normalization" but is that something that I can do or should I take it in? I didn't purchase the extended warranty (Platinum Warranty or whatever they call it) but I'm seriously thinking about buying it now...

Thanks for the advice/help. I really do appreciate it!

dmathews3

best thing you can do is buy the extended warranty. Just one repair during its life will most likely pay for the warranty. With $125 per hour charges and the high tech of these newer vehicles I wouldn't be without it. I can imagine the charges to fix your sunroof. The hours just to pull the headliner and put it back along with replacing the whole thing worst case I bet would cost at least 2 grand.

teamtbo

I experienced the exact same thing today on my 07 XLE V6 (Kentucky built in 09/06). My wife said she experienced it one other time a few weeks back.

stlpike07

As far as the dash rattle, you should go to a different Toyota dealership and see if they can fix it. (Any dealer can do warranty work).

As far as the console, mine used to rattle and squeak. It doesn't anymore. The dealer was unable to fix the squeak/rattle, so I fixed it myself. The noise in my car was coming from around the shifter area at the bottom of the console (where park, drive, reverse, etc. are) I lifted that piece up around the shifter.....it came up easily and nothing broke.....and I put some padding underneath the "cover" and around the sides of it as well. Now the rattle is gone.

As far as your dash, I have an '07 LE I4 5sp., the part of the dash where the clock is used to rattle in my car also. I lifted that piece up.......it comes up very easily and you can practically lift the entire "thing" out. I used a butter knife and lifted it up, I put some padding completely around the edge, inserted the "piece" back down, and now the rattles are gone completely.

Hope that helps. Feel free to message me if you would like more info. I would be happy to explain everything in more detail.

stlpike07

The "learning period," based on what my techs told me, is 200 miles. The "break-in" period for new cars is generally around 1,000 miles.

I had a TSB performed, which reset the computer, and was told I needed to drive 200 miles to set the computer. I drive with a pretty heavy foot and am getting around 24-28 mpg, with about 60/40 city/highway driving.

How "heavy" your foot is will DEFINITELY affect your mpg.

210delray

You can try the "initialization" procedure as listed in your owner's manual, but be sure to follow it exactly.

If that doesn't work, you're still covered by the car's warranty, so a visit to the dealer won't cost you anything.

swong6

Purchased/brought home my 2007 V6 Camry LE last night (Vin# 4T1BK46K37U035066) and according to TSB #TC002-07 does not appear to have any of the problematic 3rd/4th gear flare issues. Being a first year model 6-speed for the Camry I decided to purchase the 7yr/100k/$0-deductable GENUINE Toyota Extended Warranty just to play it safe. This 6-speed is unserviceable using a "sealed for life" thought process...there isn't even a dip stick to check for fluid level by the mechanically inclined! Besides getting "peace of mind" on what might be a 1st generation design flaw on the 6-speed tranny I priced various preventative maintenance Camry parts and threw caution to the wind. Dealer wanted over $1000 for the extended warranty so I purchased the warranty from a out of state Toyota dealer. Paid $880 (best I could find) using Troy Dietrich from Greenfield Toyota...very nice guy, highly recommended from all the web sites (toyotanation.com, edmunds.com, etc). For those deciding if paying for the warranty is worth the price here are my thoughts....2007 model Camry comes with the tire pressure air monitoring which has the integral valve stems which will have to eventually be replaced when you replace tires in 4-years. Each sensor is excess of $100 and "if" the technician doesn't break the dam thing off during the course of purchasing new tires the stem would have to be replaced simply because 4 years of uv deterioriation would render it dangerous not to consider changing said item. What concerns me the most is this being a new vehicle the tranny will most likely be problem free until the standard 3yr/36k runs out in which case when the tranny acts up we are talking "mongo" types of money being spent just to diagnose. I figure $880 is not a whole lot consdering paying $22.7 to buy the car. BTW, I purchased this Camry LE with V6 and just alloys for $22.6 from Queensboro Toyota in NYC. Best I could do considering I needed a replacement ride rather quickly as my trusted '99 Ford Crown Vic died a horrible death. Because i reside in NYC it is never convenient for car reapirs so with this extended warranty I get a loaner and piece of mind. After 7 years I normally get ride of my rides and replace anyway. I'm not thrilled with the front style of the 2007 Camry and suspect it will take a beating parked in the streets of NYC along with the malls in Long Island but time will tell. I am pretty handy around vehicles and plan on doing my own fluid and oil changes, pad replacements, and normal tuneups. These I can do according to the service manuals but the tranny and electronics requires either specialized tools or a shelf full of cars to diagnose hence another reason for the extended warranty. Finally for those who perform their own oil changes do what I did and get a dozen or so oil filters (toyotapartspeople.com!) and you are good to go. Be prepared to get dirty as these oil filters use just the filtering element and two o-rings. This sucks as I first thought what was wrong with the old cannister oil filters?...Toyota, what the hell were you thinking? Also don't pay the $60 for the wheel locks...Troy provided me with the toyota p/n which I cross referenced at autobarn...why pay $60 when you can pay $20.84 for the same McGard wheel lock set to secure your alloy wheels? Folks, if you live in the city like I do make sure you get wheel locks to guard your alloy wheels. I travel around quite a bit in my profession going to some real ugly places and coming back from a hard day's work to find your ride on milk crates is NOT fun!

manujaws

************ #1 Check your tire pressure. I run 36 psi. ****************

I also have a 2007 LE Camry, and my mileage just improved to 19.5 (premium fuel though, was just trying once). Its fairly new, just reaching 1000 miles now, just over a month old.

TIRE Pressure - The service manager said 32. And u mention 36. Which one is correct? I have 32. Maybe thats why I have less mileage?

Please let me know ASAP, taking a trip to Washington morrow from Philadelphia. Would lieke good mileage....

Thanks

jg6

Try 36.

Your ride will be a little stiffer and handling a little better.

If you run too high, you will notice more wear in the center of the tire tread but I have 13,000 miles on mine with no adverse wear patterns.

210delray

I thought the tire sensors were part of the valve stem and can be transferred over to replacement tires. The stems themselves are all steel, with a rubber o-ring, so just replace the o-ring. (This is assuming the tire installer doesn't break the sensor, but I would think as these become more common, this will be less likely.)

As for alloys, wouldn't it make more sense just to have steel wheels in NYC? (Granted, those plastic wheel covers look cheesy, but you don't have to worry about theft or scraping your nice alloys while parallel parking.)

210delray

Per Edmunds' own tests, going from 32 to 36 psi won't make a measurable difference in gas mileage.

But, on a long trip, going the speed limit vs. much higher will.

toyotainphilly

Does the TSB really help the mpg? Hoe much is your mpg before TSB performed on your car?

I start to hate my 07 camry Le little bit. :confuse:

jg6

The TSB lowered my mileage very slightly.

I believe they set the fuel mixture a little richer and adjusted the shift points a little higher.

stlpike07

For me, the TSB actuallt improved my mpg.

Before my mpg was around 18-21, with about 50/50 city and highway driving.

Now my mpg is around 24-28, with about 50/50 city and highway driving.

Also, I drive with a pretty heavy foot, so I assume that if I was "easier" on the car that my mpg would easily be around 30, if not more.

chuck28

Hello. I was wondering if your TSB was for the 4 or 6 cylinder?
My v-6 has been getting 17-18 in the city in the winter and may have got close to 19-20 as the weather warmed up this week.
I went on my first Highway drive for about 300 miles and seem to be getting closer to the EPG they say 27-30 mpg.
I have had the revised trans and believe that it is affecting my 1st though 4th gears which is giving me bad mpg in the city. Any thoughts?

stlpike07

The TSB I had performed is for the 4-cylinder and is posted in my profile.

I know there is a TSB for the V6, however, I am not sure what the "title" is for it. When I went to my dealer they pulled up a list of all the TSB's and showed them to me.......I saw some for the V6.

You may go back to the same dealer or to a different one. I could complain (while trying to be nice) and tell them they NEED to fix/adjust something..........ask them what they would do or how they would feel if they were you. Ask to test drive a different Camry and see if it "duplicates" the problem.........I told the dealer that for my last car and they said, "Oh no, thats fine, we'll take another look."

You may also want to call Toyota and complain and see what they can do, if anything.

Good luck!

6abc

Sorry it took me so long to respond. (Kiawah)You are lucky you must have another type of gas tank in your car. I had been checking the post and never saw any of the other replies.

Here is the noise story. After I fill the tank up, and Yes I stop filling when the handle clicks, (I do NOT top the tank off) the noise begins. If I am at a complete stop and accelerate I can hear and feel a thumping noise as if there is something in the trunk falling over (and other passengers in the car hear and feel it also). It does not happen if I am stopped and put the car in reverse only seems to happen if a forward motion of the car. The thump in the steering wheel corresponds to the sound of the thump, so every time I hear the noise I feel the vibration it the steering. As the gas tank goes to a little over 1/2 filled i no longer hear the sound. I have not moved the exhaust pipe or rocked the car. I am assuming that the dealership mechanics did all that before they REPLACED THE ORIGINAL GAS TANK. This repair DID NOT solve the problem it is still there. According to Toyota in CA the problem is not a problem and NOBODY else seems to have it according to their records.

swong6

I am glad you are helping facilitate getting visability on the 6-speed toyota transmission problem. While I just took delivery this past Thursday on my new 2007 V6 Camry LE I do not have faith that my 6-speed automatic is problem free simply because there are others who have voiced huge concerns avout the 3rd to 4th gear "flare" issues after accumulating a decent amount of mileage on their 2007's. Keep in mind the 6-speed automatic is a first on the Camry and because Toyota has had such a spotless reliability record then not being forthcoming with any announcement on the problematic tranmission is not what I would have expected. For those who get a chance you may want to go to toyotanation.com and one of the postings from a forum memeber has uploaded two (2) video of an actual 3to 4th gear shift when the 6-speed tranny "flares" and in my opinion this is a huge safety issue which until now has not resulted in any fatalities but who is to say we might read of a mishap shortly. Had I not committed to taking delivery of the 2007 I would have considered their old 5-speed automatic or even considered a Honda Accord. Please, by all means "fight the good fight" as every 2007 Camry owner will be in your debt. Rest assured once I start noticing consistant 3rd to 4th gear flares I will be quite vocal but in the meantime I've purchased a 7yr/100k/$0-deductable extended Toyota warranty just to cover my backside. :lemon:

teamtbo

For some reason, message # 3357 is missing. Anyone know why or what it related to?

kiawah

Unless the user that posted it originally identifies it, would be impossible to know. Anybody who posts a message, has a period of time to edit it, or delete it. I think it's 1/2 hour or so. After posting a message, if the poster looks at that message he/she has an edit option, and a delete option.

If the user deletes it, then it disappears from the forum, but the id# is used up.

pat

No big deal - sometimes members remove their own posts, sometimes they might be removed administratively, sometimes they might be moved to another discussion. No worries!

Edit: bingo, kiawah - you nailed it!!