My new UL will be delivered some time this week. I am trying to determine whether or not to purchase the tire/wheel warranty (5 yr, unlimited miles) and Paintless Dent Repair Service (3 year). Looking for input on whether or not either is worth it. I am not purchasing the extended warranty at this time.
How much is the wheel deal? What does it cover? Is it full replacement cost of the tire or prorated like most tire warranties which come with the car? Do you really expect to damage a wheel that you would need a warranty?
Never heard of a "dent repair service" warranty but then again, warranty coverage is only limited by the imagination of those pushing them. How much is it?
Personally, I think extended warranties are a waste of money especially on a quality Japanese car whether it's Toyota/Nissan/Honda or their expensive versions, unless you plan on keeping it until the wheels fall off. When I told my Lexus dealer I didn't want an extended warranty, he still pushed it and dropped the price from around $1400 to an amazing "deal" of $750 or so. Goes to show the $ they make on them even if you do get some of it back if the car is traded before the warranty period expires.
They especially like to push it on people who can't say "no".
The tire and wheel coverage is $429 for 5 years unlimited. It covers the car against any road hazards such as metal, nails, potholes, glass, etc. Also receive 24 roadside service for any tire related emergencies. I know two Lexus owners who had to get a tire replaced within 6 months of purchasing their vehicles. One had purchased the tire warranty. The other had not and the replacement was slightly over $400.
The dent repair service is $399 for 3 years unlimited. Covers the repair of any door dings and small dents caused by debris.
Thus far, I have not been pushed into any additional purchases.
Agreed. Most of these "service contracts" violate a basic rule of casualty insurance: don't pay to protect yourself from a loss that you could absorb on your own.
If I can afford to spend $35K+ on a luxury car, shelling out a few hundred bucks once or twice a decade to replace a wheel shouldn't be a problem for me.
Given that IIRC the average repair cost for paintless dent repair runs about $60 (give or take a few dollars, depending on complexity of repair)--even then, many auto insurance companies might even cover that w/o penalty to your insurance premium--you'd have to incur 7 ding repairs in order to recoup your "investment". Also--what does the fine print say regarding what kinds of "dents" they'll repair under the dent repair warranty? Does it cover any and all dents, no matter how severe/deep the dent may be, and/or if any paint got chipped/scraped away? I ask because most paintless dent repair methods cannot perfectly repair really deep dents.
Thanks for all of the input. You are right the Door Ding Protection is not worth it. Also, if I need a tire replaced, I probably would not go to Lexus to have it done.
I worked with a guy at a small dealership very nice guy,very pleasant to deal with, not pushy pushy like most salesmans are. I am located in seattle. Look for Select Auto Sales Seattle. Very good deal I got!!! Love the ES330
If you try to build your car at the Lexus web site now you will find only 3 packages, if you select the ultra-luxury package which includes the navigation, HID lights ,standard sound system, the MSRP of the car will be 39,245.00$. Any body noticed that, look's a very good package.
Are you sure you don't mean Premium plus? I get $41,895 for UL with Nav as cheapest MSRP (without ML). Even that option isn't available to me on Lexus site though...
I just went to the site. The Ultra Luxury Package is $43,989 MSRP (includes Preferred Accessory Package). Without the accessory package the MSRP on the UL Package is $43,795.
I just bought an ES350 in Northern California at Lexus of Stevens Creek in San Jose, CA. Premium Plus package with navigation, HID lights, and some other misc options. Got $4500 off an MSRP of $41,000 right over the Internet. The dealership is really great. I suggest going on a weekday if that works for you.
Yes it has been changed back to normal, but it was as I said in the morning, that is why I was surprised, I did print that page which shows clearly Ultra-luxury at 39245
I just bought an ES350 in Northern California at Lexus of Stevens Creek in San Jose, CA. Premium Plus package with navigation, HID lights, and some other misc options. Got $4500 off an MSRP of $41,000 right over the Internet. The dealership is really great. I suggest going on a weekday if that works for you.
That's an "excellent" deal! I can't believe you got $4500 off..... that's unheard of around the east coast. The ES I'm looking at seems to be the same MSRP, about $41K. Dealers in the DC/VA/MD area are only offering about $2K to $2,500 off. I'm wondering how long it will be before the east coast can get those kinds of offers that CA are getting?
Anyway... congrats on your awesome deal! I'm so jealous... just will have to play the waiting game.
I got an excellent deal from Coliseum Lexus of Oakland for a Premium plus package with Nav, HID, Rear sun shade. The dealership staff was very professional and friendly. Couple of phone calls to the internet sales manager helped to fix the price. I would definitely recommend this dealership.
"I made my deal on May 17, 2006 on the internet with Wilde Lexus of Sarasota, putting down a $2,000 deposit for Ruby Red, Cashmere interior, premium plus package. As of today I still do not have the car. Have any of you had difficulty in the delivery time? The dealer is telling me they have no control on the amount of cars delivwered by Lexus with this particular package. A supply and demand thing."
If you haven't gotten you car by now...you could have special ordered the car from Lexus with exactly what you wanted and had the car in 8 - 12 weeks. The dealer is playing games. Call the GM, tell him you want the car by August 25 or you want your deposit back!
I believe I did both Edmunds and Carsdirect. I believe that the reply e-mail was in response to Edmunds but it could have been the other one. Maybe I went to their website even.
I went to Putnam as well and I think they were willing to go $3000 under MSRP and may have gone lower. They didn't have the color I wanted though and couldn't get it by when I needed it so I didn't follow up.
I got the feeling that Stevens Creek is trying to win a sales competition.
I just picked up my SGM UL this past Saturday from Coliseum Lexus; they were willing to match Fresno Lexus' quote...except unlike Fresno, they had the exact package I was looking for in stock (car had just come off the truck Wednesday vs. end of August for Fresno)...that, and the fact that I wouldn't have to drive as far (I live in the Sacramento area) to pick it up! Also FWIW--after a few back-and-forth email exchanges, Stevens Creek was willing to match Coliseum but just like Fresno, did not have the car I wanted in stock...so Coliseum wound up w/ my business.
FWIW #2--dunno if he was pulling my leg a bit in order to "pressure" me into committing to the sale, but the Coliseum salesperson was telling me that he had a few other dealerships calling in looking to trade for the SGM UL that I had my eyes on...
UL w/ ML, PA, rear lip spoiler, and preferred acc. pkg--MSRP $44288, sale price $39963 before tax and other stuff.
Hmmm, I dunno exactly which options are included in the MSRP you stated but $44,288 is the exact MSRP of the vehicle I bought (UL, ML, PA, lip spoiler, preferred accessory package--which BTW according to KBB it looks like it went up $3); however, the invoice price you stated appears to be a bit higher than the invoice for my particular vehicle...but like I said, I don't know exactly what options are included in your price.
If indeed the price you stated is for the exact same package I got, then FWIW I paid $39963 before tax/license...but that's for CA; dunno if the DC/MD/VA dealers in your area are as competitive in pricing these days.
Is it possible to get the Mark Levinson surround system WITHOUT the panorama roof? I'm interested in buying a crystal white ES350 but the dark color roof makes it look like a two tone car. Can the car be special ordered without the panorama or is there a thinking that Lexus will repackage the ML without the panorama in the near future?
just got a price quote from mission viejo lexus in southern california, hope this info might help someone... ..
The new 2007 Lexus ES350 is more powerful, more luxurious and more spacious than ever before. You will find yourself surrounded by many new amenities such as: new power tilt/telescopic steering wheel, SmartAcces with keyless entry and push button start/stop, voice-activated wireless Bluetooth hands-free system, in-dash 6-cd changer with miniplug for MP3/WMA player connectivity, new driver and front passenger knee airbags, high intensity discharge headlamps, power rear sunshade, 17" Summer tires and full size spare tire, 6-speed automatic transmission with sequential shift, and vehicle stability control. The new ES350 is available in three different packages:
Premium Plus Package Includes: Perforated Leather Trim Interior with Memory Driver's & Front Passenger Seats, Outside Mirrors and Power Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel, Heated Ventilated Front Seats, Driver''s Power Cushion Extender, Rain-Sensing Wipers, Wood & Leather Steering Wheel, Cargo Mat, Cargo Net and Wheel locks. This vehicle has an MSRP of $37,064 and our Internet Selling Price is $33,614 plus tax and license.
Navigation Package Includes: Premium Plus Package plus Generation 5 Navigation System with Rear Camera, Bluetooth, and Voice-Activation with Destination Input. This vehicle has an MSRP of $40,999 and our Internet Selling Price is $36,872 plus tax and license.
Ultra Luxury Package Includes: Perforated Leather Trim Interior w/Memory Driver & Front Passenger's Seats, Outside Mirrors, Power Tilt/Telescoping Wood Steering Wheel, Panoramic Glass Roof, Heated and Ventilated Front Seats, High Intensity Headlamps, Power Rear Sunshade, Rear Seat Side Airbags, Driver Power Cushion Extender, Rain-Sensing Wipers, Bluetooth, Full Size Spare Tire, Generation 5 Navigation System with Rear Camera, Bluetooth, Voice-Activation with Destination Input, Mark Levinson Premium Surround Audio with 14-Speakers, In-Dash 6-Disc DVD/CD Changer and Cassette Player. This vehicle has an MSRP of $43,489 and our Internet Selling Price is $39,264 plus tax and license.
Thanks very much for the info, I test drove ES 350 and was very impressed. I am planning to purchase ES 350 but can wait out for better deal. Considers ES 350 is a new release, the price you got is excellent, just slightly more than someone on this board who got $3850 off from the MSRP for Premium Plus from Keys Lexus few weeks ago. With Acura TL and Infiniti G35 both will release their new cars next month, just wonder if we can see better price with new competitions.
was offered $40,264.00 for a UL ES350 MSRP $43,989. This is in NY; good deal or not? Personally I was hoping to get it for 38.5K but every dealer has made it clear that is not happening.
Sounds like an excellent deal for the east coast. Haven't heard of anyone getting getting even close to that kind of deal for an UL. What dealership in NY?
I was quoted $1500 off an MSRP of 41,289 (invoice $36,189)for a 350 Premium Plus w/NAV at Sheehy Lexus (Annapolis, MD). They haved only a few 350's, and are not willing to come down further at this time. I told them it would pay me to fly to CA & buy one there!!
$1500 seems to be the magic number for dealers to discount in the DC/VA/MD area. I have talked to about 2-3 dealers in the area, all have said $1500 is all they can do for now. These quotes were for the Prem. Plus w/ Nav (MSRP $41,289). I absolutely love the styling and luxury of the new ES350, but is it worth 8-9K or 20% more than a Acura TL w/ Nav..... not sure? I have been seriously considering the 2006 or 2007 Acura TL instead since Lexus dealers around here are not budging off MSRP for the ES350. People on the forums are getting the fully loaded TL's OTD for around 31-31.5K. It's hard not to sway the other way. I do realize the 2 cars are different, but like I said... is it worth 8-9K more? That's just my opinion...
MSRP $40,999, $2,599 off, $38,400 + TTD net. Moonshell Mica w/gray int. Johnson Lexus, Raleigh. My old car was totaled in an accident and I had to wait 3 weeks for delivery. Johnson gave me a loaner. Considering my needs, the loaner and the lack of competition in this area, I'm satisfied with the deal.
In addition to the features in the Premium Package: Rain-Sensing Wipers, Memory Passenger Seat, Driver Seat Cushion Extension, Rear-Side Air Bags, Full Size Spare, Park Assist, Voice-Activated Navigation System with Rear Back-up Camera.
Here's what I got quoted the local dealer. Keep in mind sales tax is about 7% here.
$492/month including sales tax 32 months 12,000miles/year, upfront we pay
up front sales tax 1306 Bank fee 795 DMV plates 295 Bank tax 55 First month 492 total upfront $2941
The salesman said he couldn't get it this low through lfs and went through Hyundai's bank. Anything look fishy about this deal? I've been trying to work it out but without the residual for 32months/12Kyear i couldn't. Looks to me like a selling price around 38K and a money factor around 6%(.00245)??? Any input?
Was quoted for $40,500 for MSRP of $43989 for a Ruby Royal/Cashmere ES350 today. This is in NJ. BTW, anyone know the fair trade in price for 2003 ES300? I looked at the trade-in price in kbb and edmunds.. they differ by almost $5,000 in trade in value?!! Which one is the more realistic number you folks are getting during trade-in of your old lexus to dealer?
Selling a car to another person is often much better and you get a much better return for it than tradng it in. For instance before I purchased my ES 300 , I sold my other car for 3000 more than what they were offering for the trade in and this was an older car worth only 4500 median as per kbb and great condition was 6500. I sold it for 6200 while the dealers were offering between 1500 to 3000
$38.5K on a near $44K MSRP is wishful thinking...not entirely impossible, but darn near impossible to get any dealer to commit to (exceptions notwithstanding) at this time. If you've read my post a few posts back, you'll see that I couldn't get that low even though the MSRP on my vehicle is only $299 more than yours.
I can't speak on pricing in NY but maybe you could get them down to a hair under $40K; yes we're talking only a couple hundred dollars or so lower but hey, it's lower than $40.2K!
I got approx $4900 off MSRP on the MSRP $41499 (Premium Plus w/Navigation and Park Assist). Sale price was $36,5xx. Purchased last day of the month at Pleasanton Lexus. Out-the-door came to under $40K after tax and license(Tax rate is 8.25%)
Another dealer, Coliseum of Oakland, said they'ld give me $36K, due to it being the end of the month, but it was too late-I'ld already paid at Pleasanton. I don't know if that was a real price, as it was only over the phone.
FYI, I just bought a luxury package with navigation for $36,999, MSRP $40,999, $4,000 off MSRP from Lexus of Portland. they currently have 50 ES350's on the lot. my was an end of the month deal.
Thanks to "tigerjunk" for posting an informative message that helped me in negotiating this good price.
We received a price, no trade and cash for a ES 350 2007 lexus. MSRP of 41,440, will sell the car for 38,999. I am concerned about the requirement of using premium fuel, cost are high v/s regular. This deal was in the Pacific Northwest. Any additional comments would be appreciated, price , and fuel costs
Odds are that it was probably a legit quote; I say that because I recently bought my ES from Coliseum and their fleet manager honored his email commitment about matching Fresno Lexus' offer. I know--a phone quote doesn't really hold as much weight when compared to an email quote, but the fleet manager I dealt with was straight-forward w/ me about what he could and couldn't do as far as price was concerned.
Put it another way--I drove approx. 220 miles round-trip to purchase the car from them; that in itself should help show that I didn't think they were just jerking me around. Not that that matters now since you already made your purchase from Pleasanton, but maybe that might convince other Northern California folks to seriously consider Coliseum Lexus if looking for a great deal on an ES 350.
You can use the regular 87 fuel, as stated in the user manual. There maybe a slight degradation in performance, but not everyone needs all the horsepower and acceleration.
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Never heard of a "dent repair service" warranty but then again, warranty coverage is only limited by the imagination of those pushing them. How much is it?
Personally, I think extended warranties are a waste of money especially on a quality Japanese car whether it's Toyota/Nissan/Honda or their expensive versions, unless you plan on keeping it until the wheels fall off. When I told my Lexus dealer I didn't want an extended warranty, he still pushed it and dropped the price from around $1400 to an amazing "deal" of $750 or so. Goes to show the $ they make on them even if you do get some of it back if the car is traded before the warranty period expires.
They especially like to push it on people who can't say "no".
The dent repair service is $399 for 3 years unlimited. Covers the repair of any door dings and small dents caused by debris.
Thus far, I have not been pushed into any additional purchases.
If I can afford to spend $35K+ on a luxury car, shelling out a few hundred bucks once or twice a decade to replace a wheel shouldn't be a problem for me.
Niranjan Deo
Any body noticed that, look's a very good package.
That's an "excellent" deal! I can't believe you got $4500 off..... that's unheard of around the east coast. The ES I'm looking at seems to be the same MSRP, about $41K. Dealers in the DC/VA/MD area are only offering about $2K to $2,500 off. I'm wondering how long it will be before the east coast can get those kinds of offers that CA are getting?
Anyway... congrats on your awesome deal! I'm so jealous... just will have to play the waiting game.
I've exchanged some emails with him before on the IS but he wouldn't give out a price.
Generally, Putnam seems to offer better deals than Stevens Creek. Maybe they were feeling generous that day or week.
If you haven't gotten you car by now...you could have special ordered the car from Lexus with exactly what you wanted and had the car in 8 - 12 weeks. The dealer is playing games. Call the GM, tell him you want the car by August 25 or you want your deposit back!
Good luck!
I went to Putnam as well and I think they were willing to go $3000 under MSRP and may have gone lower. They didn't have the color I wanted though and couldn't get it by when I needed it so I didn't follow up.
I got the feeling that Stevens Creek is trying to win a sales competition.
FWIW #2--dunno if he was pulling my leg a bit in order to "pressure" me into committing to the sale, but the Coliseum salesperson was telling me that he had a few other dealerships calling in looking to trade for the SGM UL that I had my eyes on...
UL w/ ML, PA, rear lip spoiler, and preferred acc. pkg--MSRP $44288, sale price $39963 before tax and other stuff.
Would you let me know where you bought your car in Houston? I am not having much luck with Houston dealers.
Thanks
If indeed the price you stated is for the exact same package I got, then FWIW I paid $39963 before tax/license...but that's for CA; dunno if the DC/MD/VA dealers in your area are as competitive in pricing these days.
w/out ML?
The new 2007 Lexus ES350 is more powerful, more luxurious and more spacious than ever before. You will find yourself surrounded by many new amenities such as: new power tilt/telescopic steering wheel, SmartAcces with keyless entry and push button start/stop, voice-activated wireless Bluetooth hands-free system, in-dash 6-cd changer with miniplug for MP3/WMA player connectivity, new driver and front passenger knee airbags, high intensity discharge headlamps, power rear sunshade, 17" Summer tires and full size spare tire, 6-speed automatic transmission with sequential shift, and vehicle stability control. The new ES350 is available in three different packages:
Premium Plus Package Includes: Perforated Leather Trim Interior with Memory Driver's & Front Passenger Seats, Outside Mirrors and Power Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel, Heated Ventilated Front Seats, Driver''s Power Cushion Extender, Rain-Sensing Wipers, Wood & Leather Steering Wheel, Cargo Mat, Cargo Net and Wheel locks. This vehicle has an MSRP of $37,064 and our Internet Selling Price is $33,614 plus tax and license.
Navigation Package Includes: Premium Plus Package plus Generation 5 Navigation System with Rear Camera, Bluetooth, and Voice-Activation with Destination Input. This vehicle has an MSRP of $40,999 and our Internet Selling Price is $36,872 plus tax and license.
Ultra Luxury Package Includes: Perforated Leather Trim Interior w/Memory Driver & Front Passenger's Seats, Outside Mirrors, Power Tilt/Telescoping Wood Steering Wheel, Panoramic Glass Roof, Heated and Ventilated Front Seats, High Intensity Headlamps, Power Rear Sunshade, Rear Seat Side Airbags, Driver Power Cushion Extender, Rain-Sensing Wipers, Bluetooth, Full Size Spare Tire, Generation 5 Navigation System with Rear Camera, Bluetooth, Voice-Activation with Destination Input, Mark Levinson Premium Surround Audio with 14-Speakers, In-Dash 6-Disc DVD/CD Changer and Cassette Player. This vehicle has an MSRP of $43,489 and our Internet Selling Price is $39,264 plus tax and license.
Thoughts on the 40.2K?
In addition to the features in the Premium Package: Rain-Sensing Wipers, Memory Passenger Seat, Driver Seat Cushion Extension, Rear-Side Air Bags, Full Size Spare, Park Assist, Voice-Activated Navigation System with Rear Back-up Camera.
Here's what I got quoted the local dealer. Keep in mind sales tax is about 7% here.
$492/month including sales tax
32 months 12,000miles/year,
upfront we pay
up front sales tax 1306
Bank fee 795
DMV plates 295
Bank tax 55
First month 492 total upfront $2941
The salesman said he couldn't get it this low through lfs and went through Hyundai's bank. Anything look fishy about this deal? I've been trying to work it out but without the residual for 32months/12Kyear i couldn't. Looks to me like a selling price around 38K and a money factor around 6%(.00245)??? Any input?
((Net Cap Cost–Residual)÷Term) + ((Net Cap Cost+Residual)×Money Factor)=Monthly Payment (not including tax)
I can't speak on pricing in NY but maybe you could get them down to a hair under $40K; yes we're talking only a couple hundred dollars or so lower but hey, it's lower than $40.2K!
I got approx $4900 off MSRP on the MSRP $41499 (Premium Plus w/Navigation and Park Assist). Sale price was $36,5xx. Purchased last day of the month at Pleasanton Lexus. Out-the-door came to under $40K after tax and license(Tax rate is 8.25%)
Another dealer, Coliseum of Oakland, said they'ld give me $36K, due to it being the end of the month, but it was too late-I'ld already paid at Pleasanton. I don't know if that was a real price, as it was only over the phone.
1.Extended Warranty
2.Prepaid Maintenance $1400?
3.Fabric Protector (approx $900)
from the dealer?
We passed. Not sure if we should get it. Thanks
Thanks to "tigerjunk" for posting an informative message that helped me in negotiating this good price.
I am concerned about the requirement of using premium fuel, cost are high v/s regular.
This deal was in the Pacific Northwest.
Any additional comments would be appreciated, price , and fuel costs
Put it another way--I drove approx. 220 miles round-trip to purchase the car from them; that in itself should help show that I didn't think they were just jerking me around. Not that that matters now since you already made your purchase from Pleasanton, but maybe that might convince other Northern California folks to seriously consider Coliseum Lexus if looking for a great deal on an ES 350.