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I mean...why else would anyone here ask as to whether it's okay to use regular unleaded in the ES 350 on a (fairly) regular basis, if it's not so as to save a few bucks in gas costs?
I wasn't intending to be harsh; I simply responded to his statement quoted above..."concerned" was the operative word and as stated in another posting, a 20 cent difference per gallon would be approx $150 more per year - simple math. It's up to the consumer to decide if he or she should not buy a $40K vehicle because it might cost $150 more per year.
There have been 15 postings on the ES350 board concerning the use of premium vs regular gas; all it takes is use of the search feature on the forum to bring up all sorts of past history on repetitive issues.
Personally I use regular fuel and don't notice any difference in performance nor mileage. If it was evident that mileage or performance changed dramatically, I would switch to premium.
This topic is constantly beaten to death on all the auto forums and for all the discussion the debate continues.
This has simply been my experience with my ES350.
OTD - 40,523
The Smokys are very hard to find with long wait time.
Dealership is great to deal with.
Appreciate everyone's comments/feedback on this deal.
JTMav
Who is the dealer?
JTMav
From this forum, it seemed this would be difficult on the east coast. I visited the dealer in Jacksonville and was told this was crazy. They were able to sell all of their ES350 for about $500 off of MSRP. It seems most dealers in the FL-GA area don’t even have ES350’s on the lot. So they get whatever they want!
I then emailed every dealer in Florida and select GA dealers with my offer to purchase at $3k off of MSRP. This was probably about 15 dealers.
Most (about 10 dealers) said I was crazy. About 5 dealers opened a dialogue with me, the one dealer that stood out was Wilde Lexus of Sarasota. They really gave me the prices and direct answers I was seeking. We drove down to Sarasota today and completed the sale. I had no trade. The price was $3K off of MSRP.
For anyone shopping in Florida, I would definitely check with the Sarasota dealership (first class) but also with dealers in Miami. You could probably even do a little better then $3k of MSRP right now with the end of the month and quarter coming up. I had one Miami dealer email me a “ to bad, so sad” email that they have done $3800 off of MSRP deals after I told them I reached a deal with another dealer.
I asked Hennessey Lexus in Atlanta to match price because they were the closest dealer to us (we're in IL) with the configuration we wanted. We would have to fly down to close deal & drive home. We were within a hair of buying from them and then asked if other costs & there was a $400 documentation fee they couldn't waive or adjust. We ended up going with FLEETRATES, who sourced car from JR Lexus near Miami FL. We then paid to have car shipped to us, but they didn't charge a doc fee, so we probably broke about even but didn't have to go down and drive back. I'd try them. Just take any information you have from research with you.
"I am happy for you that you got your vehicle, but I will be honest and tell you that you certainly missed a great deal as my manager just did a similar deal for $3855.00 off MSRP for a customer being he wanted to get rid of some of our Tungsten Pearl in order to fill another allocation.
Have a good one."
But we had already reached an agreement with Sarasota and couldn't be happier with the transaction!
True or False?
Geez...guess that just goes to show how much "class" that dealership has; if they really could do $3800 off, why didn't they offer to do so in the first place?
I would like nothing better than to purchase a new Lexus.What is stopping me?
For one thing the fuel requirements, octane level. It is primary that premium fuel is used or the warranty is void. If you do not believe me call Lexus 1-800-29-lexus
Why spend the necessary cash when the mileage is not that superior.
Not true. According to "Jeff" at the above #, it does not affect the warranty. "Superior mileage" is subjective - I'm pleased with mine using regular fuel. If I wasn't, I would spend the extra cents to buy premium. It's still a terrific car regardless of the perception of some. Purchase what you want.
It's a greedy sale department, not customer service. Wait until Xmas, they will beg for your business.
My first 2,000 miles were with 93 octane gas and the next 3,000 were with 87 octane gas. I noted no difference in performance, engine sound, or mileage, which has been consistently 26 around town and 33 highway no matter which grade I use.
Like zekeman1 said, use whatever grade you'd like.
SRY, I had no intention of offending anyone. All I know is what I was told by LEXUS when I called them. Possibly the person to whom I was speaking did not understand my question.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thank-You!
This price is on the west coast.
Again thanks for your input. We live in the pacific NW, obviously the Lexus's are more expensive here.
Additional information I found outn tonight, with an MSRP or $41,522 a dealer will trade for $38,193, closr to your price. This car has some additional perks, three coats of a professional wax application, and 3M material anti-scratch around all car handles, with door edge guards. The price they charge to apply this is $600, so figuring including the perks the price is discounted $3929.
I or (we) would appreciate any input you would care to include.
A footnote, how do you like the vehicle?
Regards:
The invoice price to be $36,616.00 and the kbb price to be
$39,913.00. She is also wanting to add on the chrome wheels which are showing to be $2000,00-msrp. The salesman has told my mom that their dealership has a shortage of cars right now w/ a high demand. What is the best advice that you can give her for an offering price in Mo. or Ar, or Ok. (Tulsa or Ok City). I wasn't sure what the invoice price on chrome wheels would be, but noticed that someone on here paid $1000,00 for 4 chrome wheels. Any advice that you can give us would be helpful.
one of my friend said he bought one for 33K OTD including TTL and all other fees. is it possible?
i m in chicago, %8.75 tax rate.
thank you very much !!!!
I then called about 10 other Lexus dealerships in the bordering states and asked them for their lowest price on an ES350 either in their inventory or if I were to order it. The key here is to ask for the sales manager and not just one of the salesman!!! The lowest price I got was 37.9k. However, I then presented this to the local dealership and found out that they could in fact budge on that MSRP...$3,508 to be exact. I then bought it from them since I didn't have to travel to get it.
The Lesson I learned: You dont have to pay what they tell you to pay. Good Luck on your car buying experience..
I initially ordered the car the end of August... I really wanted red or white but just couldn't get it. I was apprehensive over the fact there was no deposit taken and the only paper I had was an unsigned computer print out showing price. When I called and said I'd also take a Tungsten Pearl, I got a call within a day that my car was on the boat. When I got to the dealer... no hassle, paperwork handled quickly and no surprises in pricing... after all, it was 7 weeks and my trade in was older and had 1000 miles more.
All in all, I highly recommend Jim Falk Lexus.