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i didn't know about this new law. is it across all states?
X6 on the other hand looks very cramped in the back and with even less cargo space than rx. just from pics, it looks like rear passengers will have to duck their head when they sit.
if i had to choose, i'd pick the rx over x6
But still, women choose it more then men do, or should I add, ladies buy all kinds of suvs, these days, I've seen them driving LX570 ,x6 v8s to cayenne turbos.
Yes, the X6 doesn't have enough space at the back, but no1 buys an x6 for cargo space.
A 6 ft tall guy can easily fit in the back of the x6, if you don't believe me, go see for yourself.
If you need rear seat passengers in comfort, RX is the way to go, otherwise, the X6 driving experience is amazing
You can buy one right now for $22,000. The lexus has a high MF and little discount. I figure $800 per month with a zero down lease on one with taxes included. Plus if you purchase the taxes are deductable for 2009 while lease taxes are not deductable. One advantage of leasing is, no future worry if economy collapses. However, not sure the advantage of anything in that scenario. Just some thoughts...
It was only sales tax, which gives a benefit of only 400$ for qualified people only
Would appreciate if you can please PM me your contact @ Lexus of Rockville
Does anyone know what would be a realistic price in the current market? I see some postings indicating @ or below the invoice as purchase. Appreciate some words of wisdom.
You are not likely to see a deal at invoice or below for a 2010 RX. This is Lexus' newest vehicle so your best deal is probably invoice PLUS $500 to $1000 and that may be hard to come by if the dealer is selling any above that price. Check edmunds.com for a better idea of invoice, I believe there is about a $5000 to $5500 gap between MSRP and Invoice for a $46K RX350. One tactic is to email several dealers' Internet departments and get quotes to compare. See if the dealers will beat their competition. Good luck.
Please kep us informed.
There was a downside to my experience with the dealer they listed...they didn't want to give me anything decent off the RX. They told me they would give $1,200 off $47k...I told them um, that's not a deal. They said the vehicle just came out and they aren't discounting the 2010, however, the discounts for the 2009 RX350 ranged from $9600 to $9800 off their MSRP. I told them they have the wrong person on the wrong day... I walked out.
The good news, I contacted a different Lexus dealer, also in Virgina and I told the salesperson what I wanted, she quoted the MSRP at $47,091 but will sell for $44,900. I told her all I had was a check in hand for $45,000 and her new sales manager agreed to sell it to me for $40,900 (with tax, tags, title) = $45,000. I was told the car would be there on Saturday...so I'll post again once I get it and let you know if they kept their word. This is without the UBS certificate... bottom line, if the dealership is hungry for the sale, they will do whatever they need to do to get you in the car!
Good luck - that would be a fantastic deal if they keep their word! What dealer is it? If it doesn't work out, I have always gotten a good price from the Internet person at Len Stoler Lexus in Owings Mills, MD (near Baltimore). Ask for an email quote - it should be competitive.
Two dealers have told me they are working on about a $5000 markup from invoice.I look forward to hearing from you.
That's what I was told... The proof will be after my appointment with them on Saturday. I'm a firm believer that dealerships can do whatever it is they want. You can be that out of 10 carbuyers, only 3 have done the research to get a good deal. Many others will believe what they ask for and think $500 -$1000 is all they can received. Not me! I told them I have cash in hand (certified check that is) for $45,000. The salesperson said her manager will reduce the price to get me out the door at $45,000. They would lower it to $40,900 (or $41,900) to get me out the door at $45,000 (6% taxes, and whatever tags and title costs).
Matador Red, Parchment Leather: Navigation Pkg with add't options (Nav, premium, comfort, tow prep, 12-spk 6-disc, remote engine starter) ~ MSRP $47,091..
I'll post on Saturday on if they were true to their word or not. I'll keep you posted.
Please let us know the actual MSRP and true discount before all fees.
Looking forward to hearing from you, as I am sure you are looking forward to purchasing the car at the price you indicated.
Once you succeed getting your car, would you mind listing which options(codes, if you can) you got? Thanks and good luck!
So, no new car for me!!!! At least not this week. I told them, my offer is firm ~ and he said, "You're willing to pass up a Lexus because of $1,000"? I countered with, no, you're willing to pass up selling one because of $1,000.
Please continue to keep us informed and thanks again.
You must be really disappointed, you went to pick up your new car but the sales person comes and tells you that this is not the car, next thing you know, they're trying to charge you an additional $1000.
Whats your plan now? Going to go to another dealer?
Btw, what color did you choose?
I will let you know if they counter-offer me with anything else. My price stands, so it's up to them. I told him, honestly for every person that comes in here today, how many of them will have done their homework on this? He looked at me as if he wanted to faint! I then said, exactly...so for one person to get a deal isn't going to make or break this dealership.
I'm also waiting for UBS to investigate the deal from the other dealership. I'll also let you know what I find out from there too, when they get back to me.
My brother brought a limited edition FJ Cruiser last summer. He drove from MD to Ohio to get the best deal out there. Now folks are trying to buy it from him, but he's not giving it up... I'm not willing to drive 9 hours to get a car, but I am willing to haggle for a few weeks to get what I want!
I was temporarily disappointed, but not shocked. Kinda pissed off because the salesperson confirmed last night that the RX had been received and was there. I drove an hour to get there!!!!
My brother warned me that it was likely to happen. So I had a backup plan... I went to the Audi dealer first to look at the new Q5. It was nice, however, I really like the Lexus. I test drove one for $45k, didn't have remote engine starter or ventilated seats...but almost evertyhing else similar to the RX (a little smaller in size I think). You don't see many of them, so that's a plus for me too. It has a mean panoramic sunroof where the whole top of the vehicle is glass...(I liked that alot). My brother asked could he sell it for $43k out the door....the salesman said if we make a deal right now....yes. Nonetheless, I left there and went to my Lexus appointment. So, I'm convinced a dealer will do whatever they need to if they want the sale. :shades:
I myself was looking at the Q5, but it seems to be very small, like a compact car.
Since you liked the Q5 so much, why didn't you just take it? But I guess the RX will be a better car in the long term.
Have you seen bmw suvs?
i also tried the q5 approach. great car, most impressive audio system i have ever encountered,(505 watt b+o), first system installed in a vehicle that i thought was as nice as a Levinson. the navigation system is three dimensional and uses a Nividia graphics chip. only problem with that was when i asked the salesman to program my home address in, after 10 minutes he gave up. also after 10 years in Lexus products, my wife said she is not going back to a german car seat no matter who designed it.
so we went to the toyota store to look at a highlander hybrid. sales guy told me that last week Toyota pulled what limited lease support they had for the vehicle because of concern for added losses due to residuals.
i just sold an ls460l for 10,0000 below wholesale because there are no buyers for expensive sedans. i will not purchase again unless it is used.
only the manufactures know what product mix they are planning in the future and if they are unwilling to bet on a car's residual, unless you are really planning on driving it for 10 years, better find a car you like with a company that will stand by the residual via a lease.
the rx lease with a 57% residual or the q5 which came in at a similar number, i thought were good deals. if i like the car and the deal after 3 years, i really didn't lose much by leasing.
as an additional curious note to the fellow looking at the q5. if you ask the Audi dealer about maintenance costs, he will tell you that the total maintenance for the car for 3 years is 680. if you load it into the lease, it bumps the residual by two points and the net cost is about 300 bucks. i with lexus had a deal like that, cause it looks like i am going to dance with the devil i know.
has anybody had any experience in getting lease pricing on the packages that aren't currently shipping, such as the luxury package with the folding mirrors.
You sold your ls460l below wholesale price, WHY? :confuse:
Why does it matter to you that there are no expensive sedan buyers?
Just sold your LS because of the weak market conditions :surprise:
My best tactic ever was I was at a dealer and they gave me the price--ok but not great--so I told them I was going to lunch and would think about it--before I stood up the price came down a bit, nah--let me think about it--
what would it take for you to close it before lunch? yada yada--got to within 100 of my price.
bottom line--my style is not to push them into a corner--make them want to come to you.
I am waiting for a fairly loaded hybrid-probably 6-7 weeks away--I hope I am not too early in the hybrid sales so I can get a decent amount off--I know early in the model run it will not be the greatest discount--yet I know they will work with me.
All a matter of supply and demand--and who is more hungry. If they have cars sitting there--you can deal--some things do not change.
Where should I start...
(1) The dealership I went to was the UBS dealership (meaning they were supposed to have the discount pricing), however, when I got there he didn't have the pricing, even after he told me he did ~ LIES. I need to know that I'm getting the UBS price if I'm going to the representative listed on my certificate.
(2) I wanted the red one and the salesperson told me that the reds ones aren't popular so they don't stock them and the only two were both at the port and it would be a week before delivery ~ not a big deal, I could have waited, but I reverted back to #1.
(3) I don't know much about the Audi, I was looking for a different alternative, I like the features, just didn't know if the price I was getting was truly a great deal or not; especially since the Prestige S-Line wasn't available at all. None of the models on the lot came with remote engine start (only the prestige has it, none was in the inventory).
(4) Did I mention the salesman let me go on my testdrive alone, I got lost, didn't know how to use the nav system to get back????
(5) I think the Lexus is the better buy for the money...in my opinion. It has more leg room in the back then when I was in the Audi (I have three girls). Who else makes ventilated seats (cooling seats, that sounds like an amazing feature).
I was hooked on the BMW for two years...couldn't wait for my lease to expire to buy it. However, after the auto show...my desire to have one diminished. The BMW rides well and the maintenance package is a great offer...but nothing stands out aesthetically like the Lexus or Audi. THe X6 is really, I mean really nice, but it's a 4-seater...who makes a 4-seater? Plus all the BMWs I've looked at for over a year were $10-$12K more than the Lexus and Audi.
I'm not sure where I'll end up with this car-buying venture... I have my fingers crossed that the Lexus dealer will contact me on Tuesday, but if not, I will do more research on the Audi.
I think these forums are a great help and resource.
One dealership said that Lexus was sparingly putting them out to keep the prices high ~ not sure how true it is or isn't.
I've got nothing but time.
My experience is that the dealers do not want anything negative communicated to Lexus corporate; that dealers will do everything possible to keep customers happy.
Seven-ten days ago a local dealer told me that inventory would built up toward the end of March.
Aside from getting lost what did you think of your test drive of the vehicle.Had you compared the 2010 vehicle to previous years.
Thanks for keeping us informed.
I liked the RX350AWD I drove. However, did not believe the MSRP is the starting point for purchase. As in the past, I would prefer to start @ the in voice price.
I will begin my car purchase quest in earnest now!
A couple of years ago a Lexus dealer let me walk over $300. I left and returned within a short time as I knew that I had negotiated the best deal possible since they let me out for a few hundred bucks. By referring to this forum, I knew I had a great price and just tried to do a bit better.
(4) Did I mention the salesman let me go on my testdrive alone, I got lost, didn't know how to use the nav system to get back????
Driving the RX or the Q5?
THe X6 is really, I mean really nice, but it's a 4-seater...who makes a 4-seater? Plus all the BMWs I've looked at for over a year were $10-$12K more than the Lexus and Audi.
Your the first person I know who doesn't hate the X6, I myself love the x6, but there are some issues, I've mentioned them before
After I test the x6, the sales guy tells me there have been some issues on the x6, engine heating problems, and advised not to buy it :surprise:
To be truthful I still want the x6, but can't afford the troubles. :sick:
On another note, the Audi salesperson called me today to see if there was anything he could do to earn my business. I told him I wanted to see the red one in person. He's having the one in PA sent up here by Tuesday for me to look at.
The Q5 was a nice ride (especially if you like the vrooming engine sound). Its interior is a bit smaller than the RX, but it has some amazing features that I like, if I choose to pass up the RX. The one downside, no remote engine starter (my garage is so crowded there's no room for a car ~ go figure). The 2009 Q5 is new for Audi, so there's nothing to compare it to.
I think the investment would be a good one...and if not, I can pass it to my daughter in about 4 years and start over!
The X6... I haven't researched it much. I went to see it last summer when they got them in at the dealer by my house and thought AWESOME. Then I realized it was a 4-seater and thought, well I guess I can wait a few years. I didn't read the reviews, but I'd assume for that amount of money it should be a "well-oiled machine" ~ LOL. I don't care if the maintenace is free, I don't want my car to spend half it's useful life in the shop. Thanks for sharing the issues, I wasn't aware of them at all!
What's your next desire if you pass up on the RX350?
A dealer that I visited a month ago called today and told me inventory is building and they will now discount by thousands.
Coolio...month end is also approaching...dealers need to meet their numbers....you really got a call from the dealer today? It's Sunday, they must be desperate.
I'm not ready to seriously start shopping for my next car yet. I only found three on the lot.
When I was looking at pics of the interior on the internet previously, it looked as though the Q5 had a push-button ignition on the console by the shifter, if I'm remembering right.
Today, I looked for that and couldn't really make out a specific button on the shifter console for that, and yet I didn't see an ignition switch by the steering column either. Does the Q5 come
with the push-button ignition and if so, where is it located??
I also went to see if there were any 2010 RX's on the Lexus lot.
I saw a Starfire Pearl one. I'm having an issue with the 2010 exterior looks. I've seen pics of it in Motor Trend and Car and Driver and it looks really nice in the pictures. In fact, I believe there's a Matador Red one in Car and Driver or Motor Trend, I get them mixed up; and, boy, does it look nice. But when I've seen this car up front in person, it leaves me feeling disappointed. I can't put a finger on this one. I mean, the car is
very similar to my current RX, but something's a little off to me and I'm not sure I'm liking it.
I also looked at the Venza, and I really liked the Venza, except there's no memory seats offerred and I really like having that.
What do you think a reasonable markup over invoice is for the RX?
The X6... I haven't researched it much. I went to see it last summer when they got them in at the dealer by my house and thought AWESOME. Then I realized it was a 4-seater and thought, well I guess I can wait a few years. I didn't read the reviews, but I'd assume for that amount of money it should be a "well-oiled machine" ~ LOL. I don't care if the maintenace is free, I don't want my car to spend half it's useful life in the shop. Thanks for sharing the issues, I wasn't aware of them at all!
Those issues are true, otherwise a bmw sales guy would never tell you such a thing, at first I didn't even believe how he told me such a secret thing, after all, the first thing a sales person does is goes after his profit, but this guy was different.
The disappointing thing was I really liked the car, but I can't live with a brand new, expensive, unreliable car, especially in a long drive on a highway in the middle of nowhere.
He added that its not a daily using car, won't be the same within 1 or 2 years, but the engine heating problem on a long drive is something really worrying.
Btw, are you a Woman? Most RX buyers are.
The Q5 looks much better than the new RX and the interior is nicer. The new RX dash is beyond ugly. One thing is to drive around in a car that looks slightly off, you don't see the outside, but you have to stare at that crazy dashboard all the time. I have the RX 330 and just don't like what they did to the 2010 car.