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Also, for anyone who has driven both, how does ride compare?
BTW, have seen posts that RDX is not selling big... have already seen a few CRVs on the road here in NYC area... have seen exactly ONE RDX.
Not to worry. We overlook typos and misspellings all the time like this guy who inserts apostrophes where they don't belong:
The last CR-V sold here for under MSRP a few months after it's intro and throughout it's run.
I'm not naming names, however!
Incidentally, one does not "spell a vehicle" though one may spell the name of a vehicle. (Sorry, couldn't resist!)
tidester, host
I really have to take issue when I see people give out erroneous info about maintenance. Far too many people are wasting time, money, and harming the environment by listening to old wive's tales and doing 3K oil changes. This is 2006 -- today's vehicles do not need to be maintained like vehicles from the 1950s!
In the end, you are entitled to your opinion and free to express it here, but I encourage people to do the research and get the facts when deciding on the maintenance schedule for their vehicles. Unless there is some reason to doubt Honda engineering, they should be the most credible source of information for Hondas.
I have a short commute to work and I make a lot of short trips. I usually change my oil around the 4000-4500 mile mark. I have the filter changed at the same time.
You are also entitled to your opinion. It is obvious that you don't like spending any more money maintaining your car than you have to...your choice.
I wonder, if you and I were both selling our 100,000 mile cars which one the readers of this forum would rather buy?
A car with 100,000 miles has lots of wear on all its systems. Who cares if you can eat off the engine block if the suspension is shot, the brake lines are corroded and the wiring harness is shorting out? Neither car is going to be worth much as the mileage gets up there.
I'd buy the one with the better color. :shades:
When they're shipping the CR-V's in from Japan, they put the Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) in "sleep mode." As part of the initial dealer vehicle prep, they are supposed to "wake up" the TPMS, which will turn off the light. The original data information sheet did not include this little tidbit of information. The dealers should be able to get an updated version of the PDI documentation, which includes the steps to wake the system up.
My dealer said they had to go back over every CR-V they had prepped, once they found out the info from Honda.
As the driver of a Honda with MUCH more than 100,000 miles (closer to 200k), I have to say my car has been more trouble free than many cars UNDER 100k miles. Two repairs, about $300 each, are all the car has needed in nearly 170k miles of driving (over 11 years). This car's oil was changed every 3,500 miles or so, with all major maintenance performed per-schedule in the manual.
If my drivetrain lasts 200,000 miles on the factory maintenance interval then maybe the money I've saved on oil changes will help pay for the switches that are going to start dying.
If I had a new CR-V, I'd follow Honda's maintenance recommendations.
I guess no one remembers CR's taxi cab oil study from last century eh?
Couldn't have said it better myself; I follow the maint. minder on my 06 Accord, it tells me to go between 6,500 and 7,500 miles usually...
LOL, then maybe you can remind me again what it was we were arguing about? :shades:
Btw, I asked the shop to pull my 105k plugs at 30k to see how they were doing since I had read about the seizing issue, but I don't have any way of knowing if the mechanic actually did that since I wasn't monitoring the process.
There is a good chance they skipped it altogether. But it isn't hard to change the plugs, and if you decide to reuse the old ones, just put some anti seize on the threads. That's what I will do on our Accord when it reaches 15 thousand miles next year. When you install the new plugs, stick the skinny end into a soft rubber hose and install them slowly, turning the hose gently - if you misthread one it will not go in far enough to do any damage and you can pull it back out and try it again.
I never see Acuras on the road anymore and if I do the only ones I see are the < 2007 Pilots. Being a past owner of a very reliable Integra I feel like Honda has been dropping the ball the past years. I own both a sienna and a camry and really want to break out to a different brand. Toyotas are reliable but Honda always had a better ride. I even read an article this week how Hondas sales are down 5% while Toyota is up 1% same time last year. Honda are you listening? Come on. HP isn't all that important, but that seems to be the only thing they are upgrading.
And as a reminder, Honda is very specific about what constitutes severe service, and they specifically note that occasional severe service falls under the normal schedule. The severe schedule is for severe driving condtions the vast majority of the time.
It's not a money issue for me. My Subaru has 7500 mile intervals (oil and filter), and I follow those religiously. When the older Subarus called for the first oil change at 3000 miles, I always did that too. My S2K has a 7500 oil change interval with a 15K filter interval per Honda. And the TSX has a 10K oil change interval and a 20K filter interval. I follow all of those schedules to the mile. If the schedule called for more maintenance I would do it. I'm just not a believer in over-maintaining a vehicle. None of my vehicles have ever had engine problems, and the longest I took a new car was to 120K miles (that was a 2000 Subaru -- my parents have it now and it still runs great).
I thought the MDX was really nice, and 17/22MPG is not bad either. The interior is extremely slick -- very similar to the RL. I am sure Acura is going to sell a ton of them. Probably be a waiting list like last time around.
Yes, those miles are easier on a car, but high miles are high miles and nobody wants to buy a high mileage car.
The new oil monitor systems are interesting and although I'm not totally sold yet, they just might be a good thing.
Our demo cars see a lot of "severe service". They get started cold all of the time. Sometimes they get cold started, moved 20 feet and get shut off. A lot of short trips etc.
I've noticed the oil change light coming on around 4500 miles on these give or take a few miles.
If you absolutely, positively insist on always having a car payment, it prolly doesn't make financial sense to change earlier than 7,500 miles, because someone else will own your car within 48 months or less.
But if you (or a family member) expect to be the owner 10 years down the road, then persistent maintenance may pay off.
I bought my '05 CR-V in June of that year. Last week the odometer turned 10K, so it goes in tomorrow for its third oil change (plus tire rotation etc). Measured by miles, that seems a little early, but measured by time I'd say it's in the ballpark.
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And the maintenance minder is not affected by time, only mileage so you have a choice either follow it or ignore it completely and use your own schedule.
But remember that you will no longer have an accurate record of when maintenance is needed.
I was not aware they put a V6 in the CR-V in any year. Are you sure about your first sentence? Are you sure you aren't talking about an Accord or Pilot?
The service interval on my 2003 was 5000 and 1000. The service light started blinking at 8K miles. I used 5K for oil changes myself.
Here is the Honda Owner's Link Information:
"Following the factory-recommended maintenance schedule in your Honda Owner's Manual is the best thing you can do for your vehicle. Regular scheduled maintenance helps prevent problems before they occur.
Because not everyone drives their Honda the same way, your Honda Owner's Manual includes normal and severe maintenance schedules.
View recommended service for your 2003 Honda CR-V:
Normal
The "normal" schedule is fine for most drivers, even if they occasionally drive in severe conditions.
10,000 mi/16,000 km/1 yr
Severe
Follow the "severe" schedule only if you drive in one or more of these conditions most of the time:
Trips of less than 5 miles (less than 10 in freezing weather)
Extremely hot weather (over 90 degrees F)
Extensive idling or stop-and-go driving
Trailer towing, car-top carrier, or mountain driving
Muddy, dusty, or de-iced roads
5,000 mi/8,000 km
And the maintenance minder is not affected by time, only mileage so you have a choice either follow it or ignore it completely and use your own schedule.
But remember that you will no longer have an accurate record of when maintenance is needed."
Would you care to speculate under your statements how the CR-V determines oil changes are needed?
I challenge you to prove your words:
First of all, substantiate your statement that the CR-V does not have a black box, or that it is only used for a few seconds of data.
How do you know the maintenance minder is not affected by time? My Ford Freestyle bases it's oil changes on either time or mileage, and my CR-V service manual recommends certain time intervals even if the mileage is not driven.
If you have your maintenance done at the Honda dealer, they will have the complete record of maintenance. Even if you have the maintenance done at Jiffy Lube or somewhere, if you keep your records you will have them if needed. Nothing changes there.
Wow, you already have more than 7500 miles on your 2007 CR-V?
Well, almost. It has the same basic engine as the CR-V and Element, but they are tuned differently.
Let me ask you a question. If I were interested in a new car that had been around for, say, 6 years. I would want to know what was recently wrong with the vehicle. Under the old system, I would simply go to the "Problems" forum and search backwards, or start a few months ago. Under the new system, there would be many (possibly dozens) of forums, many of which may have addressed issues that happend years ago, and were fixed and not an issue with a new vehicle.
How would I discover this? I would have to click into many, many useless forums, only to discover that they were out of date. That is what I call a classic waste of time.
This is progress?
It shows the underbite, and that the new grille doesn't really fill up that gap.
They really need to fix the lower bumper itself to close that gap, not just insert a grille because it still looks like a big void.
It's not even close to Aztek ugly, please, give us a break. People love to draw that comparison but nothing else comes close.
-juice
Display items include when to change oil, air cleaner, trans.fluid, differential fluid, spark plugs coolant and when to rotate the tires. It has nothing to do with time.
I don't know about your Ford but this is how the 07 CR-V works, also it does not have a service schedule in the owner's manual read page 263.
The purpose of the black box or(EDR)events data recorder is to get data after a crash.
GM and SATURN have them, they are listed in the owner's manual and I have not found any listing for the CR-V.
If we are going to play that game, we could also say what if the ____ gets a defect...
in the blank you could put the:
"Brake" warning lamp, which wouldn't alert you to problems with your brake system
"Oil Pressure" warning lamp, which could cause your engine to seize if not attended to promptly
I could do that all day long... at some point, we have to trust that something we buy is going to work properly. If we don't trust it to some degree, we should be walking.
The first four-color spread has the head, "CRAVE. Total Pleasure. Zero guilt." A page letter I find, "Become an instant expert in good taste."
We're told the vehicle is at home pulling up to a "drive through" or the "club valet."
The cover shot looks like it was taken at a shopping mall. In case we don't get the point, approx, oh, 20% of the cover is a soft focus image of a nicely accessoried member of the female persuasion who is either on her cell phone or fixing her earring. Many of the visuals look like they were taken at one of those new "lifestyle" shopping malls with cobblestone crosswalks.
I also picked up a Ridgeline brochure. The first big headline speaks to "living a full life" ... "by the truckload." Many of the pics show the vehicle with a dirty face and muddy feet. In fact the cover shot is of the bed with muddy footprints across it. (Wonder how long they had to work to make them look authentic?)
Okay, girls, you're taking over the world anyway. Enjoy.
The topic page lists both the number of posts and last post date for each item and both of these will let you zero in on what you're looking for. Prevalent and recent problems can be picked out by volume of activity and currency. Minor and outdated problems will fade away.
tidester, host
Did you read my post?
Look in your SERVICE HISTORY BOOK that came with your CRV!
Perhaps the maintenance schedule for the 2006 CR-V can be downloaded from somewhere here on the 'net?? Anyone know? Geez...I am sorry I turned over the service manual to my 2005 (traded on the '07) before I copied the basics. If I can't get the info here on the 'net I suppose I can go back to the dealer and get the info for an '05 or an '06.