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Good thing I'm driving a rental right now.
But I'll second the use of a Dyson Animal. It sucks. The brush attachment is fantastic for upholstery.
With the van I can actually remove the 2nd row, fold the 3rd row, open all the doors, and use a leaf BLOWER!
One of the guys at work was going back and forth over an area. He said, "This thing SUCKS".
Another guy yelled out, "Problem is it doesn't suck".
We figured the proud announcement of the inventor of the Dyson that "It never looses vacuum", is because it never had any to begin with. :sick:
Our vacuum cleaner at home, a "Sears" model "Kenmore Progressive" will get the grass, pine needles and such off the car carpet when using the crevis tool. Of course there is a bag to change. Because the bag actually gets FULL of stuff that used to be on other surfaces. About half the price of a Dyson, but it really sucks! :shades:
Kip
I have a classic hovering Hoover Celebrity. :shades:
This is serious stuff here!!!
Kind of like, for the Cr-V, which tires work best, which replacement wiper blades, which brand or octane of gas, how to remove water spots, and now....... how to clean those nasty carpets. Serious stuff!
Next week... Is there moss growing from the AC vents?
Sorry, I got silly, I'll behave now!
Kip
Come to think of it, did anyone buy a new CR-V today?
Yep, but it only took 5 gallons to refill the the 8 gallon tank. It is a 8 gallon tank and should take 8 gallons to refill. What is wrong with Honda.? :mad:
With the weather getting cooler, it be a good idea to also check the helium in the tires and seats.
Remember: Helium gets low, car gets heavy, mpg suffers!
Kip
And they rate the CR-V highly for reliability, to get us back on topic.
Have the securing device go from one side point, up and over/through the stroller then down to the other side.
Keeping the rear seat head rest high would also help somewhat to keep the stroller from evading the back seat area. Good luck and let us know what you came up with.
Kip
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Off topic, but that photo looks air brushed, doesn't it?
And yes, the underbite is still there, but I'm seeing tons of CR-Vs in Birmingham, AL where I live. People like my grandmother like them a lot - she has a 2002 Accord LX. The CR-V is bigger, sits higher, runs about as fast, and gets identical fuel mileage to her Accord. Young people like them too... all the girls I've talked to really think they're cute as a button.
If Honda puts a diesel in it I'll be there in an instant for a test drive.
Fuel economy could be a wash since diesel fuel costs more and I think that there
are some states where diesels ar not legal.
If diesel gets 35 MPG versus a gasser's 25 MPG, (a very real possibility), you're looking at
2857 gallons of diesel over 100k miles, or 4000 gallons of gas.
$12,000 for gas over 100k miles. $9713 for diesel in the same distance assuming $3 and $3.40, and 100k miles. The diesels are rumored to get higher than that 35MPG figure, but I set it lower for easier comparison purposes, and to help offset the naysayers.
Problem is that we, here in the states, don't have a lot if great examples to look at as far as everyday diesel commuting fuel mileage. The diesel powered pickup trucks I do and have known get/got maybe 4 mpg town better than a gasser. Near the same mileage on the road. But they paid big $$$ to get the diesel. For heavy loads, they are great because of the torque . However for everyday driving the gassers just seem to be more at home. My Ram 5.9L gasser was much quicker on acceleration and much more responsive for the type driving I did 99.99% of the time than my friends diesels. Actually only two of them still owns or drives a diesel on a daily basis. Several did at one time.
The CR-V is not exactly a "Heavy Load" vehicle. Therefore loads of torque is not really necessary in it's market.
I've spent a great deal of time over on the JEEP diesel forums, and don't see anything really spectacular about it's mileage. Yet they seem to be having a lot of drivability problems. Keeping in mind the experience their sibling company, Mercedes, has with diesels, the one selected for the Jeep should have been a no brainer, "works out of the box" perfect example. But it is not!
Supposably the VW TD got real good mileage, but they stopped sending them here a year or so ago for some reason.
Most of us don't keep a car long enough to wear out a gas engine, so longevity becomes a mute issue for the majority of the driving public. True some folks may drive 30K+ yearly and a really long lasting engine would benefit them, but is that small segment of drivers really worth while for the automotive manufacturers to go after? A friend has a late 80s Accord with near 300K on the gas engine and AT.
Honda will certainly have it's work cut out for it to produce a diesel that will accelerate, and be as friendly and trouble free as a gasser at near the same purchase price, while getting the much improved mileage we expect.
I'm not anti-diesel. I'm working on my 2nd Kubota farm tractor. They are efficient and work well for the task they are required to do. Heavy work! However, they probably do not have the same emission requirements of an automobile.
Kip
I am also not anti diesel but I remember when GM tried diesels in the 1980's that proved to be a fiasco. Maybe the Japanese will get it right.
Having driven both Mercedes and VW diesels for years (and many miles), it would be easy for me to shift to a decent quality diesel.
When unleaded gas first came out the price was more than leaded but it was cheaper to make because the refineries did not have to add lead.
Diesel is still cheaper in all parts of the world except the US.
No bet, I would likely loose a nickel!
I'm surprised that gas is not already to $4, with crude hanging out in the $100 neighborhood.
It would certainly "seem" that it be more expensive to refine and produce gas than diesel. But, for some reason, diesel has been 20 cents higher for years, here. Actually about the price of 93 octane gas. Appears to be more than 20 cents difference where you live?
I can remember diesel being very cheap, compared to gas, in days of yore.
In those days you did not want to be behind a diesel anything. The, often times, black smoke and always the fumes were overwhelming. Gas engines did their share too. Just not as bad!
Kip
Tetraethyl lead was added because it was the easiest and cheapest way to increase the octane rating of gasoline from 70, its natural rating, to 87, which allowed higher compression engines to run without knocking. Unleaded gasoline requires additional refining and other additives.
The price of US diesel has risen, in part at least, because of reformation requirements by the EPA to reduce sulfur content. Also, worldwide demand for diesel has increased dramatically in recent years, and the federal excise tax on diesel is now 6 cents per gallon higher than it is for gasoline.
I looked on www.BirminghamGasPrices.com a mere 30 seconds ago, and found the lowest price available for 87 Octane is currently $2.79, with an average of $2.87. Diesel's lowest available price was $3.13, but that is only at 3 or 4 stations in town. The rest of the prices on the "Lowest Prices" board appear to be around $3.25-$3.30, with the top prices in town being $3.39. So, Figure $2.87 for gas, $3.27 for diesel. A 40 cent difference!
Having lived in AZ. I'm in favor of propane (dual conversion subsidized by the state).
Can we hear some unbiased opinions from some happy diesel owners.
In addition to the added costs of removing sulfur, diesel has become the fuel of choice for Europe. Foreign diesel that once headed to the US now goes to Europe.
Also, depending on API gravity, a barrel of oil will most efficiently "crack" into given percentages of gasoline, kerosene, diesel, etc. This has resulted in a surplus of gasoline from European refineries, which is exported to the US. And, yes, this has kept our gas prices lower than they would be otherwise.
You just can't in any of the diesel/hybrid threads. People take sides and it's either perfect or the worst thing in the world depending on the side they choose.
Diesel does cost more here, so it might take a while to break even. Still, you enjoy more range the entire time.
15.3 gallon tank (is that still the size?), but you probably use 13 gallons at a time.
13 * 25 = 325 miles, kinda short on range.
13* 35 = 455 miles, now that's more like it.
The BIG tank on my van has spoiled me. I've gone 500 miles and had 2+ gallons to spare.
OTOH, my Miata's diminuitive fuel tank means I have to get gas every 250 miles, it's just annoying.
how much more will a diesel engine cost than a gas engine? unless the price is very close, i don't know if it will be worth the extra cost of the diesel engine... another thing, do diesel engines still require more frequent oil changes? if they do, you just ate up some more of what you are saving on diesel.
35% and 10% have no value. use actual numbers for fuel and the cost of the car. then you can have a number to use with the 35% and 10%.
you may be correct in your assumption, but what you wrote didn't make sense.
you need actual cost of fuel and automobile to prove or disprove your point.
Closest station to us is a Citron. We don't buy there because we don't care to support Chavez. However I pass by frequently and it is a good benchmark. Fuel prices vary almost daily.
Yesterday, 87 octane was $2.90 and Diesel was $3.36 (rounded). That is the largest "difference" I've personally observed, ever. This is falling close to the prices you are seeing.
Kip
If the diesel holds its value as well as a gas CR-V, then you are only paying about 50% of the extra cost over the next five years... If the diesel turns out to have better re-sale, then there may be no extra cost, at all... (See VW Jetta Diesel).
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you have to consider the miles driven per year, the mileage you get with a diesel engine verses gas engine, the difference in cost of gas verses diesel fuel, the extra oil changes, the purchase cost of a gas car verses diesel car, and resale value.
i'm not saying one is better than the other or one is more economical to own than another. what i am saying is that is everyone that wants to make a case for his point of view is just throwing percentages around. if you are going to say diesel is is cheaper to own over a certain period of time, you have show more than just say one is 10% and the other is 35%.... makes no sense.
Right now it is fun to play with some numbers. Then when the diesels hit the road, see how right we were or were not! :shades:
Kip
Y'all seem to know about the other diesel discussions so I'll point out this one instead as another fun one:
Report Your Local Gas Prices Here
thanks!