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For a daily driver, which would you choose and why?
Neither will I, I just meant that given a choice between Munich and Ingolstadt in this specific case, I'll take the latter. I'm very interested in the M37 myself. The EX35 has finally shown that Infiniti is actually capable of a decent interior. If they can take some of those cues and improve upon them, it could be a real winner.
I'd like to drive a base Cayman to at least experience what driving a Porsche feels like.
I drove an early 997 Carrera S Cabrio back when I was looking for a replacement for my old XKR. Absolutely wonderful driving experience. As good as BMW steering can be, Porsche's is just better. The 911 made the old steel XKR feel like a convertible Buick.
Most of the problems I had with it - the 3rd rate electronics and that awful automatic transmission have since been rectified. Unfortunately for Porsche, the Jag also got much better, and I still prefer the XK to the 911 overall. As good as the flat 6 sounds, it's got nothing on the Jag's old fashioned V8 burble.
Good question. In the past I would've said M3, hands down. Now that the Cayman has PDK and a proper limited slip diff, I would most likely take the Porsche, even though the M3 is probably still the faster car. I wouldn't have it as a daily driver though, for that I'd have an Audi S7. As intertwined as they are, if VWAG goes down, they are taking Porsche with them. There is no future that has Porsche in it and not VW.
The script has had some revisions. I'll put one in the mail for you right away for you to review. See the new chapter titled "M5 vs. CTS-V."
So what you're saying is you'd rather walk than have an M3?? Wow! Hpowders clearly asked "if there were only three cars in production on the planet..." You're not allowed to throw other cars in the mix in this scenario.
What folks MAY eventually see is a lot of re-naming such as:
Volkswagen Cayman S :surprise:
Looks like my wife's Rabbit may one day get elevated a notch!
Only kidding. I'm sure even if VW completely absorbs Porsche, they would keep the Porsche name.
What I would like to see is troopers being authorized to issue $100 tickets to anyone who refers to a vehicle as a "Porsch".
Uhh... doesn't the price of oil ALWAYS go up around this time every year in anticipation of the summer driving season and hence, increased demand?
Two words: No way!!! Unless it's bright red, then I'll take it, sell it and buy an S5.
As for daily driver. I want to say Cayman but I need a backseat, so a blue or black M3 will be my choice.... for one simple reason, so the gaping rear end will be less visible.
Interesting. Your logic is sound.
Indeed. You should also take a 911 for a spin. No legroom problems there. The Cayman S is now probably better than the most basic Carrera, but when you step up to the S, the 911 pulls ahead.
On looks though, I'd definitely have to give it to the Cayman. The 997 is a much better looking car than the 996, but it still looks like, as Clarkson says, "a hot VW Beetle". The Cayman looks much more modern and much more interesting.
Smartly, I left my wallet at home that day.
If I got an M3, it would have to be a conservative color like silver. I would want the troopers to think ' there goes another BMW 3 Series.' Wouldn't want them to see "M3".
it would be nice if BMW had "de-badging" as an option. The Cayman S can be ordered that way. I believe the Cayman S looks nicer from behind without the "Cayman S" emblazoned on the rear.
...and for the weekend, the other brand!
Regards,
OW
Regards,
Jose
If only you can press a button somewhere on the seat that works in conjunction with the radio to give me something to say to "THE LAW" when I get pulled over for committing the grave crime of "enjoying myself and hurting absolutely nobody else". :mad:
I look at it this way...you pick your places to have fun judiciously.
Regards,
OW
I may have to install a concealed detector. Desperate men call for desperate measures. :shades:
BTW, I just found out our "freinds" look for cars that are using RD with radar detector detectors (RDD's)! Was that on the referendum last November or did BO put that into effect with the proposed oversight rules of the derivatives market? :surprise:
Regards.
OW
As I've stated before, I would not choose the Cayman as a daily driver, I have 11,000 miles on mine in 3 years, it is best used as a toy. I also would not pick the M3 as it is a bit too boy racer for my liking, maybe I'm just getting too old. :sick:
Here in Boston, an S6 is hard to beat as a high performance daily driver, quattro counts. If I lived full time in FL, then probably the new E63, the reviews of the new E seem pretty favorable.
OMG!! Between you and LG, you guys are killing me!
Porsche has a "first mile program" advertisement that I saw in the WSJ today telling folks to come on in for a test drive. The vehicle photo in the ad is of the rear of a silver Cayman S.
As much as I would like to take Porsche up on their minutely camouflaged cry of desperation advertisement, unfortunately, at this time the 328i is temporarily grounded. I drove down to Sarasota this morning and came back with the entire front end and windshield covered with squashed love bugs. Their season lasts around three weeks twice a year and it has now officially started. Had a heck of a time washing the car this afternoon cleaning off the disgusting mess. It's like their bodies are coated with crazy glue! I'd rather not go through that again. :sick:
When the time is right, I will likely upgrade to a 135i coupe or Infiniti M37 if I decide to get something bigger.
I do notice on quick right turns, one can really feel the weight of the BMW 3 Series. I feel like I am turning a bus! Why BMW decided to make this vehicle so large and heavy is puzzling-it seems like they sold out to the poseurs who just want to show off the badge. Frankly, I imagine that would most likely eliminate the 335i for me also-too large and heavy.
I'm eager to drive a 135i coupe. It just may work for me.
My researching the Cayman is in direct reaction to the 3 Series not really being a great driver's car any more. However as you and others indicate, it is best sampled as an occasional luxury, not as a daily driver.
So, you get the love bugs in the Miami area too? All up and down the interstate today, there was a mist consisting of water droplets from drivers using their wiper sprays to help clear away the orgasm-crazy beasts! Often, the water mist hit my own windshield and I got a free spray!
I have to pick the wife up at the airport on Saturday-taking the VW. The car will be an absolute mess when we get back, so I will have to spend early Saturday evening washing it.
You flatter me, Tony, but no matter what I drive, I would always be a down to earth casual guy... like you and the rest of the gang!
As to your last paragraph `Thank God` ----and as I am up here in Charleston and plan on going to Miami next week,, where they also have the bugs, which I had forgotten about, I am now going to fly..Haven`t done that in a year or so....Man flying is a poor experience, but so is a long drive with millions of `Love Bugs` splattering themselves all over the car..
You will have very limited visibility through your front windshield on a long drive. It almost looks like blinding snow when they hit the windshield. I did an 80 mile trip this morning-good thing it wasn't straight to a used car dealer-I would have received $11,000 for my loaded filthy 328i- the "Love-bug Special."
Now it sits in the garage-washed and polished to a fine Alpine White sheen, never to be driven again until the orgy is finally at an end, maybe three weeks from now.
BTW, I just found out our "freinds" look for cars that are using RD with radar detector detectors (RDD's)! Was that on the referendum last November or did BO put that into effect with the proposed oversight rules of the derivatives market?
Where have you been for that past nearly 20 years?? Virginia has been using RDDs for nearly that long if not longer. I'm sure plenty of other states have been using it as well. Not a new phenomena...
Sleeping, obviously.
I know it's not new but why would you have a RD if the Police know when you are using it? I see some of the higher end units defeat the trace. I haven't used an RD for over 30 years.
Funny, but the 3 years and 44K miles I drove the 330xi, I only was pullled over once and the Trooper let me off! :shades:
Never got a ticket in the bimmer... :surprise:
Regards,
OW
I think the detector detectors are mostly used in states where RDs are illegal. As long as you aren't in one of those states, whether you have a RD and whether the cop knows you have one shouldn't matter. They can't add a "detector fee" to your speeding ticket. The only situation I can possibly see the RDD making a difference is if you go buy a trap at say, 13mph over the limit. That's pretty much (at least in my state) right on the line, and its completely up to the officer as to whether to stop you for that or not. If he senses a RD in your car, that probably won't help your chances.
You're telling me
The new E63 is definitely less cartoonish looking than other recent AMGs like the C or SL, but I still don't think it's a good looking car, inside or out. At least they got rid of the taxi cab column shifter.
BMW does have de-badging option, but not in US unless you order your car first.
I've seen quite a few Cayman S cars for sale that are de-badged.
That must drive tailgaters crazy wondering WTF kind of car is THAT!!!
though I actually think it's a stupid reason as I find the Cayman more attractive than a 911.
Sounds ridiculous-de-badging a Cayman to fool people into thinking it's a 911, but there are all kinds of folks out there.
As for me, I would proudly choose to keep "Cayman S" on the rear of that twin-tail-piped bad boy!
Then again, there's always THIS Porsche...
TM
Pics and history, both are worthwhile.
250 GTL - Berlinetta Lusso
In Black Dress
Regards,
Jose
2010 Audi RS5 to get 4.2L V8 from RS4
The next generation Audi RS4 is rumored from reputable sources to get the same supercharged 3.0 TFSI V6 engine as the 2010 Audi S4 but tweaked to produce 400hp. The V8 engine in the current generation will go to the Audi RS5 and will be twin-turboed to produce 450hp with a peak torque of 332 lb-ft, this will allow a 0 to 62 time in the low 4.-something seconds. The Audi RS5 Cabriolet will also makes its debut sometime later. This news is a big disapointment. First disappointment is how the 2010 S4 isn’t having a bi-turbo which is great for modding. Then the RS4, will only produce 400hp, it needs to have more to compete with the BMW M3. Then the Audi RS5 which I and others though would have a V10 producing around 500hp but instead has 450hp for a car that is expected to be priced over $70k.
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One thing all three of those Porsches have in common-the hard seats!
Thanks for the photos! That middle one just takes my breath away. Simply beautiful!
Almost all the Ferrari cars are appealing, and particularly so after watching them build the latest at their compound.I think it was Discovery or Speed or some such channel.....Everything from casting the engine components -one at a time- and the hand polishing and the ladies working the leather....It made me feel that they were fairly priced, in comparison to other exotics.....One thing about all these cars are, once you see them in the flesh, they are tiny......Now the Rolls Royce is a monster in person.....Tony
That is correct.
And... IMO, Audi has demonstrated leadership in that regard... although over time it will become the norm.
You might enjoy the article on pages 88-92 in Automobile Magazine, June issue... three vehicles taken on a hypermiling trip, one of which is an M3. The M3 achieved 25 mpg!, best of the three... but no one in their right mind would ever drive an M3 like that in the real world. The M3's ride is waaaaay to seductive to resist stepping on the throttle and having some fun.
TM
That reminds me of when Top Gear had a Prius race around their test track at top speed, and had an M3 follow behind and simply keep up. The M3 was more fuel efficient.
Very nice sir. Those Italian designs from the mid '50s to the mid '60s are some of my absolute favorites.
I wouldn't take any horsepower quote to seriously at this point. Nobody knew how much power the A6 3.0T had, even after it was released. It actually depends on the market, US versions I believe are the strongest at 310hp. Surprising considering our low octane gasoline compared to what Europe uses.
I don't think anyone has been expecting a V10 for the RS5 for awhile. That's one of the reasons I went with the S6, the engine is on its way out and I wanted to experience it before it goes. The R8 V10 is likely to be the only ten cylinder Audi in the future.
Nevermind, after a quick check it's the RS6 not coming over.
Oh i can explain, you see the new RS4 will have less torque and horsepower but those losses are offset by superior weight distribution and performance. The car also has a new 7 speed dual-clutch transmission which will give it better performance numbers and fuel economy.
And lets not forget audi new modified Quattro all-wheel-drive system, that distributes 40 percent of the torque to the front and 60 percent to the rear This system is similar to one from Acura. The torque vectoring works permanently and can shift up to 100 percent of the rear torque to one wheel.
And lets not forget the new Acura TL spanked the G35, S4 335 and the 335xi in edmunds 1st drive comparison a few months ago..
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The new RS5 will most definitely be a game changer, Audi is only doing to BMW what BMW did to infiniti, by putting twin turbos in the new car it will have alot more torque and lets not forget the new all wheel drive system. They probably will still let the M3 win the comparison test, the only thing going against the RS5 at this time is going to be the price, it is rumored to start at $70....