It is, of course, even more than a 26HP bump, from 06 sedan automatic to 07 sedan automatic, because of the method used to calculate HP. Does anyone know what the apples-to-apples comparison would be?
Does anyone know what the apples-to-apples comparison would be?
I've searched everywhere for information on this, the most I could find is general information, it seems to be that V8's actually increased HP by the new standard, and smaller engines decreased, for instance the Toyota V6 rated at 210 dropped to 190, but the big Cadillac V8 went from 440-469, and the Corvette engine went from 500-505. The only way we'll ever know the numbers is to run the older cars through the new standard. Historically companies like Nissan, Toyota & Honda/Acura used slightly inflated numbers.. they were theoretical bests with the engine HP to flywheel and also no emmissions or exhaust restrictions. This all lead to a small loss in torque and HP in real world application
The new ASE standard is to the drive wheels for both HP & Torque and it's against the actual vehicle with actual exhaust and emissions in place. not the engine on a block under ideal conditions. it's flexibility in measurement have been tighted up and now it requires a 3rd party witness to observe the test and sign off on the results.
The most I could locate was people guessing that it's probably about a 20 HP and 10 torque difference. similar to the way the Toyota V6 dropped.
There's a reason the 2005 G35 is 0-60 in 5.9 and the 2007 does it in 5.2. and shaves .7 sec off quarter mile at 5 more mph. I don't think 8-hp make that kind of difference
This new 3.5 engine, drive, intake and exhaust really has a lot more to it.
Does anyone know if the Lexus is350 is measured on the new standard?
All I can find on the IS is this: AMCI-Certified acceleration testing
Does the G35x claim the same 0-60, or is it slightly slower?
And I thought for some reason, that the paddle shifts only were gonna come in the Sport package, but the website seems to make me believe they're available with any model with the Auto trans.
Can anyone confirm if the paddles are on the AWD model as well?
I have the same concern. I currently have a '04 MB CLK (6 months left on lease) and have different size sport tires on the front and rear. It has cost me a lot of money to replace these. For the G35 I like to wood interior so would get the journey package. However, for only $400 you can upgrade to the Sport wheel/tire package, which is really tempting for the improved cosmetics/performance. For meaty sport tires, $900 is not that bad for replacements. I don't know what I am going to do. I might just go with the base tires and get something ones more sporty/that can be rotated when they need replacing. I'll take the standard wheel/tires out for an extended test drive and see how they feel.
bogeydog: Anticipating the tires not lasting long, I check several sources for new tires.
me: If you're just driving normal you should be able to get 30K+ miles out of them. I've had 2 different types of Z-rated tires on my 3700 Lb car and they've last that long. And as cars are put on the road that use that size, more manufacturers will provide that size.
Because 07 is new fresh metal and styling inside and out, plus new integrated technology, one can not make a close enough comparison on a buying decision. They are very different vehicles, and thus reflected in that price comparison.
I drove a 2007 G35 Sport (automatic) last weekend and found the bottom seat bolsters (even completely "relaxed") to be uncomfortably tight against my hip bones (I'm 6'-3" @ 190 lbs). The seats in a 2007 G35 "Journey" and a left over '06 G35 "Sport" (automatic) posed no problem. Please don't get me wrong...I currently own a Porsche 911 with "sport" seats and owned a set of Recaro Model LS seats (RE: VERY deep bolsered) installed in a BMW for many years and enjoyed being supported! The dealer called today with receipt of a 2007 G35 Sport 6 speed, which we will test drive tommorow. Hopefully this G35's seats will be "different" or my hopes of a '07 G35 6MT sedan will be dashed.
For what it's worth, while I don't like to dwell in generalizations, you are not the only one to comment on "Japanese seats". My wife has a Subaru Forester - great car, but probably the WORST seats I have ever sat in. My friend's 06 Camry - OK seats, but hard to ride in for more than an hour. Another friend's RL - decent seats, but he says they are hard to deal with on long rides. Whatever. It does seem that there are fewer complaints of this type with European seats. Not sure if the Europeans spend more time designing seats for king-sized American butts or what, but it seems they get fewer complaints.
I hated the seats in the Sport also. I am only 5-3, 160 lbs and they were too narrow. I bought a AWD and couldn't be happier. Even got $1150 off MSRP in Maryland.
Traded our faithful 2003 G35 sedan in for a neat 2007 G35 journey sedan in liquid platnum with a black leather interior. It has everything made for it and we love everything about it. Can't believe the difference between 2003 and the new 2007, it is a real hotrod and drives like a dream. This car is a hobby not just an ordinary car, it is better than we ever dreamed of having!
We bought it from Mr. Robert Snider of Escondido Infiniti which is near San Diego, California. Mr. Snider went out of his way to make buying the new car a very pleasant adventure and we would certainly recommend him to anyone.
Anyone with the old G35 will be surprised when test driving the new car. It is the perfect car for us!
Bought a 2007 G35 Sport about 10 days ago. Black, with stone interior & premium package. A couple of things on previous posts to clarify -
There are 2 different gear ratios for the automatic that can be selected. The "D" position is for everyday tooling around. Move the lever to the left, and "DS", or Drive-Sport kicks in. The ratios are lower and narrower - makes for some very strong passing, etc. The paddle shifters work in this position too. One nice thing, is that it won't up-shift for you in this position. You gotta do it - downshifting is solid, and works well. Take off the traction control and you can smoke 'em good.
It feels like more than 306 HP, and the handling is superb. The steering and the suspension both tighten up with speed or lateral force. The 18" Potenzas really grip.
I kept my 2000 TL for 150K, and drove the new TL-S before I bought the G35S. Not even close. Didn't get the NAV - wish I had. I am 5'10" and 190, the seats feel fine to me.
I had great fun testing the new 07 G35S auto........the brakes are excellent and so is the exhaust note. Question does anymore know if Infiniti will add a 6-speed auto for '08.
Even-though, I love the car if a 6-speed auto comes out next year I may just wait until then. I wish the rear seats folded down too. I plan on keeping the car for 8/10 yrs.
I discussed the maintenance schedule with a salesman. Here is how I understand the recommended maintenance schedule for the 2007 G35:
3700 mile oil changes - not covered - estimate $40 15K mile maintenace - not covered - $300 30K mile maintenance - not covered - $700
Is Infiniti the last manufacturer that still has a recommended 3700 mile oil change? Many cars have a recommended oil change of 7500+ mile. The oil, filter, and engine technology is here...is Infiniti keeping the dealer's service dept in business with the low mileage recommended service?
I have a 2002 540i and it has a 15K mile oil service. My oil was tested by an independent lab after 16K miles of use and the oil was still in spec. The convenience of changing the oil one time a year vs. every 3 months is very compelling. Also, the annual cost of the BMW oil change is <$70, which is very cheap vs ~$160 for 4 changes over 15K miles.
On a side note....I am considering the 2007 G35 Sport 6MT as my next car. I will test drive the car tomorrow night. I took a quick test drive in the 2007 G35 Sport auto. I need more time behind the wheel to get a better idea on the capabilities. I look forward to driving the car on my typical roads.</li>
you can change the oil when ever you want. the 3700 is based on standard oil, the Synthetics are good for 15K. It's a recommended service interval, not a required service interval, When I was back at the dealer the other day he was held up with a customer that purchased a car from him last year, arguing about a $400 service charge at 19K miles, turns out the guy never had a single oil change since the car was delivered and it's have engine issues.
Your gripe is $90 a year in oil changes if you follow the recommended schedule? or if you follow the oil's (i.e. Mobil1 extended) you save $40 a year?
Personally I would rather change my oil every 3-5K miles and a few times up front to make sure it begins a smooth break in process. the cost of a few oil changes is irrelevantly to the cost of the car's engine or even lost efficiency due to wear.
I will add that all of this is moot for me, my Infiniti dealer covers oil changes for as long as I own the vehicle.
Just made a deal on the 2007 G35x. Got it at $2,000 below MSRP. Looks like you don't have to pay MSRP right now if the car is in the lot. I think it only applies to factory orders right now. Got it with the Premium and Nav packages. Can't wait to pick it up early next week !!!
Picked up my 2007 X on Monday. Graphite/Graphite. The Sirius doesn't work and they're on their 2nd attempt to repair it. I'm not bent out of shape about it, mainly because I love the car. It's fast, solid, handles great & has user-friendly controls.
The car magaziness complain about over-assisted steering and an artificial steering feel. I know what they're talking about, especially at low speeds, but my '04 Acura was the same way (even worse) and it really didn't affect my enjoymentof the car.
I bailed out early on my 2004 TL to buy this buggy. Comparison: when I bought the TL, I thought it was fast, handled great, held the road, etc., but the G beats it - by a lot! The engine feels like it'll never run out of power. Until now, that TL was the best car I ever had.
Before I bought the TL in '04, I looked at the last generation G35 and wasn't impressed at all. Cheap, cheap, cheap interior materials - I didn't even test-drive it. The interior on the new car is a huge improvement. To be honest, the materials aren't up to Acura standards, but they're close.
The only competitor I can see is the BMW 335. I would have considered it too, except that I am leery of the lousy reliability (especially electrical problems) that seem to plague every European-built car. My Audi was a nightmare & my girlfriend invoked the "Lemon Law" on her Jag after replacing the tranny at 14,000 miles & having the touch-screen that controls the HVAC, Nav, cell phone & radio repaired - get this - 17 times!
I'm in NJ. I was looking at the Lexus IS250 AWD before this car, but the rear legroom was a lot less in the IS than in the new G35. This car has the power of an IS350 with the AWD feature of the 250, tough combination to beat!
I have a 2003 G35 sedan and have been running it for over 42000 miles on 87 octane. There is no audible pinging in my car, and I wouldn't expect it as there is a knock sensor to pull the timing back should that occur. I will say that I flog my car pretty hard from time-to-time and have never found the performance lacking.
I know what pinging or knocking sounds like because I have a 2001 Corvette Z06 that is unhappy with anything less than 93 octane, despite being totally stock.
A lot of people on this forum piss and moan about those of us who chose not to feed our G35s premium fuel. After all, it's not so much money, is it?
I feel the same way about BMWs. Sure, I can afford to spend just a little more money and buy a BMW instead of a G35. I can afford the BMW just like I can afford to put 93 octane in my existing G35. I choose to have the G35 and to run it on the 87 octane that it is totally happy with because for me -- it is good value.
Have any of the '07 G35 owners find the road noise and exhaust note tiring? I test drove the car twice to be sure and it seems that the road noise resonates through the cabin to a point where it's quite annoying. If it wasn't for that I'd own one today.
I purchased a 07 Journey with premium, performance tires and stone leather yesterday at Palm Springs Infiniti. Sales experience was incredibly easy. Most negotiations were completed over the phone before I got to the dealership. Paid $500 below sticker. With limited availabilty, I felt that was the best I could do. Other quote was $500 over sticker. Love the car. Power, comfort and fit/finish all great. Have no complaints after 2 days. Have owned Infiniti prior to this one, and would have to say biggest improvement is interior quality. I also tried sport model and found the seats to be very uncomfortable--much too narrow. I am over 6 ft and find the Journey seats very roomy and comfortable. There was absolutely no effort to up sell anything at the conclusion of the deal. Entire transaction was handled by the salesman who had responded to my internet inquiry. Would strongly recommend Palm Springs Infiniti and my salesman, Butch.
I am going to buy a 07 G over the 330i I drove this weekend. Much faster, more options and less cheaper interior. I live in TX... where to do learn about the maintance plan for 24 months? Dealer has mentioned it.
I am leasing a 07 G35 in a couple of days with the following specs; G35 sport, nav, prem pkg, splash guards, tire and wheel pkg, sat radio. The MSRP is 38740 and I am getting $1300 off MSRP. Most dealers seem like they are wanting $500 + or - MSRP. Term 39, MF .00289, Res 55% for $830 down and $640 a month. I am not smart on leasing... good deal anyone?????
I send a request off to forbes auto that their information on the Infiniti G35 is completely incorrect. Check it out, it's seriously screwed, must be for another car... horsepower is stated as 275???? and dimensions and options don't line up either... really screwy.
where do you gte song names when you downoad a cd? is there a database on the hard drive, or do you enter manually? if a cd doesnt have info of track songs on it, i can imagine where the data comes from without connecting to the internet.
Drove a loaded X today. Very impressed with just about everything; however, I noticed that they have an instantaneous gas mileage display which I never saw go above 20mpg except with foot off the gas coasting to a stop. I have the same type of display in my BMW 528 manual and it is easy to keep the gauge well over 20 or even 30 during nearly all driving except up hills or accelerating. Anybody done any calculations on an actual tankful with the G? The new VQ engine is supposed to be slightly more economical than the one in last year's G, so maybe that will help.
My 5th day in my 2007 G35x and loving it! My only real issue is with the Music Box. It seems when you are driving over 5 mph, it grays out 7 of the 11 choices from the Music Box menu. This is annoying because you can't browse your record albums to pick the one you want to listen to. You can use the tuning dial to go from 1 recorded album to the next, but I can see this being a HUGE pain when you reach that 50 recorded albums mark. Does anyone know if its possible to over-ride this apparent "safety" feature? It makes the Music Box almost obsolete without being able to browse for specific albums or artists.
Can you play mp3s from the trunk mounted 6 CD changer ?? I have the 07 and I can only play mp3s from the CD player in the dash and from the compact flash slot.
Hi I really want too get a g35 ...my main concern is maintenance/repair ...for someone who has both (honda/infinti) is there going to be a big difference when fixing/reparing the cars in price....
Had a 2003 G35 for 4 1/2 years and it did show brake dust and I had to clean my wheels weekly. Just bought a new 2007 and after 800 miles I don't see any sign of brake dust on the wheels.
Am completely thrilled with our new 2007 G35, what a car!!!!
Buy one and you will love it. A real bargain considering all the features and performance.
Reliability and cost of maintainance over 5 years is less on the infiniti then Acura, not sure about Honda, although everyone I know with a honda likes the car, absolutly hates the sales experience and service.
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I've searched everywhere for information on this, the most I could find is general information, it seems to be that V8's actually increased HP by the new standard, and smaller engines decreased, for instance the Toyota V6 rated at 210 dropped to 190, but the big Cadillac V8 went from 440-469, and the Corvette engine went from 500-505. The only way we'll ever know the numbers is to run the older cars through the new standard. Historically companies like Nissan, Toyota & Honda/Acura used slightly inflated numbers.. they were theoretical bests with the engine HP to flywheel and also no emmissions or exhaust restrictions. This all lead to a small loss in torque and HP in real world application
The new ASE standard is to the drive wheels for both HP & Torque and it's against the actual vehicle with actual exhaust and emissions in place. not the engine on a block under ideal conditions. it's flexibility in measurement have been tighted up and now it requires a 3rd party witness to observe the test and sign off on the results.
The most I could locate was people guessing that it's probably about a 20 HP and 10 torque difference. similar to the way the Toyota V6 dropped.
There's a reason the 2005 G35 is 0-60 in 5.9 and the 2007 does it in 5.2. and shaves .7 sec off quarter mile at 5 more mph. I don't think 8-hp make that kind of difference
This new 3.5 engine, drive, intake and exhaust really has a lot more to it.
Does anyone know if the Lexus is350 is measured on the new standard?
AMCI-Certified acceleration testing
Does the G35x claim the same 0-60, or is it slightly slower?
And I thought for some reason, that the paddle shifts only were gonna come in the Sport package, but the website seems to make me believe they're available with any model with the Auto trans.
Can anyone confirm if the paddles are on the AWD model as well?
me: If you're just driving normal you should be able to get 30K+ miles out of them. I've had 2 different types of Z-rated tires on my 3700 Lb car and they've last that long. And as cars are put on the road that use that size, more manufacturers will provide that size.
And the 07 are going pretty much for MSRP and the 06 can be had for about 2000 under invoice?
Correct me if I am wrong here.
And the 07 are going pretty much for MSRP and the 06 can be had for about 2000 under invoice?
Correct me if I am wrong here.
Note from previous posts the apples-to-oranges nature of the comparison.
We bought it from Mr. Robert Snider of Escondido Infiniti which is near San Diego, California. Mr. Snider went out of his way to make buying the new car a very pleasant adventure and we would certainly recommend him to anyone.
Anyone with the old G35 will be surprised when test driving the new car. It is the perfect car for us!
Paul and Joan
San Diego
There are 2 different gear ratios for the automatic that can be selected. The "D" position is for everyday tooling around. Move the lever to the left, and "DS", or Drive-Sport kicks in. The ratios are lower and narrower - makes for some very strong passing, etc. The paddle shifters work in this position too. One nice thing, is that it won't up-shift for you in this position. You gotta do it - downshifting is solid, and works well. Take off the traction control and you can smoke 'em good.
It feels like more than 306 HP, and the handling is superb. The steering and the suspension both tighten up with speed or lateral force. The 18" Potenzas really grip.
I kept my 2000 TL for 150K, and drove the new TL-S before I bought the G35S. Not even close. Didn't get the NAV - wish I had. I am 5'10" and 190, the seats feel fine to me.
Just my luck
Otherwise the car is a blast to drive and has so many things i haven't even had time to play with.
And I bought this car becuase my 06 Mini Cooper s Can wasn't safe.
(I'm thinking of moving up from a Mini, which did cover the oil changes).
Do you think AWD is required in the northeast? I wondering how rear wheel drive would handle in snow.
3700 mile oil changes - not covered - estimate $40
15K mile maintenace - not covered - $300
30K mile maintenance - not covered - $700
Is Infiniti the last manufacturer that still has a recommended 3700 mile oil change? Many cars have a recommended oil change of 7500+ mile. The oil, filter, and engine technology is here...is Infiniti keeping the dealer's service dept in business with the low mileage recommended service?
I have a 2002 540i and it has a 15K mile oil service. My oil was tested by an independent lab after 16K miles of use and the oil was still in spec. The convenience of changing the oil one time a year vs. every 3 months is very compelling. Also, the annual cost of the BMW oil change is <$70, which is very cheap vs ~$160 for 4 changes over 15K miles.
On a side note....I am considering the 2007 G35 Sport 6MT as my next car. I will test drive the car tomorrow night. I took a quick test drive in the 2007 G35 Sport auto. I need more time behind the wheel to get a better idea on the capabilities. I look forward to driving the car on my typical roads.</li>
Your gripe is $90 a year in oil changes if you follow the recommended schedule? or if you follow the oil's (i.e. Mobil1 extended) you save $40 a year?
Personally I would rather change my oil every 3-5K miles and a few times up front to make sure it begins a smooth break in process. the cost of a few oil changes is irrelevantly to the cost of the car's engine or even lost efficiency due to wear.
I will add that all of this is moot for me, my Infiniti dealer covers oil changes for as long as I own the vehicle.
The car magaziness complain about over-assisted steering and an artificial steering feel. I know what they're talking about, especially at low speeds, but my '04 Acura was the same way (even worse) and it really didn't affect my enjoymentof the car.
I bailed out early on my 2004 TL to buy this buggy. Comparison: when I bought the TL, I thought it was fast, handled great, held the road, etc., but the G beats it - by a lot! The engine feels like it'll never run out of power. Until now, that TL was the best car I ever had.
Before I bought the TL in '04, I looked at the last generation G35 and wasn't impressed at all. Cheap, cheap, cheap interior materials - I didn't even test-drive it. The interior on the new car is a huge improvement. To be honest, the materials aren't up to Acura standards, but they're close.
The only competitor I can see is the BMW 335. I would have considered it too, except that I am leery of the lousy reliability (especially electrical problems) that seem to plague every European-built car. My Audi was a nightmare & my girlfriend invoked the "Lemon Law" on her Jag after replacing the tranny at 14,000 miles & having the touch-screen that controls the HVAC, Nav, cell phone & radio repaired - get this - 17 times!
I know what pinging or knocking sounds like because I have a 2001 Corvette Z06 that is unhappy with anything less than 93 octane, despite being totally stock.
A lot of people on this forum piss and moan about those of us who chose not to feed our G35s premium fuel. After all, it's not so much money, is it?
I feel the same way about BMWs. Sure, I can afford to spend just a little more money and buy a BMW instead of a G35. I can afford the BMW just like I can afford to put 93 octane in my existing G35. I choose to have the G35 and to run it on the 87 octane that it is totally happy with because for me -- it is good value.
I am going to buy a 07 G over the 330i I drove this weekend. Much faster, more options and less cheaper interior. I live in TX... where to do learn about the maintance plan for 24 months? Dealer has mentioned it.
Thanks.
http://www.forbesautos.com/comparator/comparator.html?comparecompete=/2007/infin- iti/g35/
My only real issue is with the Music Box. It seems when you are driving over 5 mph, it grays out 7 of the 11 choices from the Music Box menu. This is annoying because you can't browse your record albums to pick the one you want to listen to. You can use the tuning dial to go from 1 recorded album to the next, but I can see this being a HUGE pain when you reach that 50 recorded albums mark. Does anyone know if its possible to over-ride this apparent "safety" feature? It makes the Music Box almost obsolete without being able to browse for specific albums or artists.
Thanks.
Paul
Am completely thrilled with our new 2007 G35, what a car!!!!
Buy one and you will love it. A real bargain considering all the features and performance.
Paul
Near San Diego
Also, can the compact flash reader display photos or is it just for MP3s?
Thanks.