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Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems



  • tmock13, I don't understand your statement "Honda USA didn't need to do that since your van is already way over the 3 years/36000 miles warranty you got when you purchased it." Honda's powertrain warranty is 5 years or 60,000 miles. The 3 year/36,000 warranty is the "bumper-to-bumper" warranty. Do you really think it's acceptable for any automaker to sell vehicles that have major mechanical issues like this? For heaven's sake, Honda has known about this for a decade and has decided not to do anything about it! You'd think after more than a decade of this Honda would address it by now. From my perspective that's the real issue. Let alone you spend $30K+ for a vehicle that the manufacturer knows has inherent mechanical design flaws! That's just shameful and to me ranks right up there with Toyota's current problems.
  • I have a Toyota with the gas pedal recall, and I also have a 2002 Odyssey with a piece of crap transmission that went out and had to pay $3000 to replace it. And my case manager tried to tell me there are no known problems with the 2002 Odyssey Transmission other than the recall work which was supposed to fix the issue in the 99-01's (which it didn't).

    I would buy another Toyota any day, at least they care enough to have the recall and get these cars fixed even if they do lose money. Honda on the other hand is doing nothing. I will never buy another Honda.

    You said "Recalling on all of these transmissions would cost them through the roof"

    So what? They should have to pay through the roof! They screwed up the transmission not us. What is it going to take a family to die before they have a recall?
  • I have a 2007 Odyssey EXL...with around 30k miles.. I've bought Honda's for some time.. but the Odyssey is horrible... its already had front wheel bearings... the brakes squeak when cold ( fairly normal I was told )... sometimes from cold there is a loud clicking... and then there is the transmission !!! if I pull away slowly from 30mph - 50mph I sometimes get the shudder... but even worse.. ifI drive with at a constant cruising speed the rev counter sometimes goes up around 200rpm and it sounds like its changing gear.. for absolutely no reason.. and the very worst is that sometimes it does this while slowing down to a stop... and gives the impression of an acceleration... very unnerving... it goes in tomorrow to be checked out... honestly I don't want it back... I was going to keep it forever... but would trade it in if I could think of something else....
  • flexmick, ask your dealer to check the power steering reservoir. There is a known problem where air can get into the system, causing the symptoms you are describing with the clicking noise, etc.. Also, the issue you are experiencing at cruising speeds is caused by cavitations in the transmission torque converter. This happens when the torque converter slips out of lockup mode. My dealer told me a quick tap on the gas will correct it, which I think is a load of crap. I doubt your front wheel bearings really needed to be replaced, I'm willing to bet the real problem is the torque converter lockup problem. We had a 2007 Odyssey EX-L and replacing the torque converter only fixed the problem temporarily.

    Like you I've owned many Hondas, but only one Odyssey and will not buy another one. Honda has known about transmission problems in the Odyssey for over a decade and hasn't taken steps to fix it.
  • Yes, you are right that the transmission is covered under the powertrain warranty of 5 years/60,000 miles for the Odyssey. The Odyssey in this discussion is a 02 Odyssey with 80,000 miles on it. This vehicle is 3 years over the 5 year limit and 20,000 miles over the allowed mileage. Again, Honda can simply blow you off and not even provide any monetary assistance to the defective transmission. Honda is not obligated to do anything for you when a warranty is no longer in effect. Honda did help me when my transmission on my 02 Odyssey went bad at 41500 miles. Yes, I was upset and angry that this happened. I paid MSRP for this van back in 02 when demand exceeded supply. But, I was also grateful that Honda reimbursed me $1000 towards my $3200 bill from AAMCO. Think about this, I no longer had a warranty but Honda still agreed to do something for their customer. :surprise:
  • I see your point and I agree. I just think that after a decade Honda would do something to fix the problem permanently. We were very disappointed to learn that not only had the problem not been addressed by the 2007 model year, but was in some aspects even worse. Our local dealer was very good about working with us on a variety of issues, including the torque converter. I just think that any vehicle costing $30K+ should not have those kinds of mechanical issues even within the warranty period, let alone at 80,000 miles or more.
  • I bought my '01 Odyssey for top dollar back when there was a waiting list to get one. I did so because I wanted stellar customer service and quality that I could feel confident driving my family around in! I got neither.
    Atleast Toyota is acknowledging their mistake.... Honda's lack of integrity is very disappointing!
  • My '01 Odyssey transmission just failed (slipping between shifts when cold, no codes in the computer) at 85K, about 40K miles after the warranty replacement.

    According to the Honda dealer here, if American Honda pays anything toward the transmission replacement the warranty on the new transmission reduces from 3yr/36K miles to 1yr/12K miles. They said that if Honda contributed it would be replaced under 'warranty' and those are only good for 1yr/12K miles.

    Anyone run into this? Is this for real? Thanks.
  • hogan773hogan773 Posts: 255
    any indication on whether these transmission problems have been fixed by now? I just bought a new 2010.......have they changed anything mechanically between the 2005 and the 2010?
  • dbtdbt Posts: 298
    have they changed anything mechanically between the 2005 and the 2010?
    Yes, in 2007, Honda changed its automatic in the Odyssey from the 3-shaft to the heavier-duty 4-shaft version developed for the Ridgeline.
  • hogan773hogan773 Posts: 255
    oh sweet - so maybe I have a better chance at avoiding tranny failures then. thanks
  • We thought so too when we bought a 2007 Odyssey EX-L, however, if you read through the posts you will unfortunately find that many problems have been reported with the 2007 model year and up. For your sake I hope Honda has made some improvements, but transmission problems in the Odyssey seems to be prevalent since the 2000 model year.
  • neil5neil5 Posts: 118
    I read a lot on my 2006 eco roughness and slight surge at 47mph or so. Went to private shop they said mounts were OK, then went to Dealer and was tough on them. 85000 miles OUW so I made top tech ride with me first. He said mounts..then hooked it to computer. The rear mounts are electronic(i didn't know it). All side mounts and rears were replaced, fronts were deemed soft but OK. I got them to throw in discount and was and oil change and got out for a few hundred. I must tell others that it DID make car drive new again, better shifting and smoother in eco with no vibration or hum. I was ready to give it up! Now pretty happy with this car again....I also own toyota avalon and feel this has similar deal with problems but Avalon now fixed by dealer out of warranty....hope this helps someone
  • -- UPDATE to Post 1366 --

    Thankfully Honda USA has agreed to contribute another $640. towards the bill leaving us to pick up a balance of $2,090. That helps restore a little bit of confidence ...but not all. I think I would buy another Accord but I definitely would not buy another Odyssey [it was great while it lasted, but it didn't last long enough].

    Next purchase will probably be a small SUV and before this episode I would have picked the CR-V without hesitation. Now I'm thinking that the Mitsubishi Outlander is looking real good with it's 10 yr/100,000 mi powertrain warranty and track record showing good reliability. If I had to buy another van I would probably go with the Sienna (even though I'm not a Toyota fan). I'm writting this in hope that it will help other consumers out there make better, more informed choices when shopping for a new car.

    ....AND, in case any Honda Marketing folks are reading these posts, think about how this type of issue hurts Honda's reputation and effects future car sales. Wouldn't it have made more sense to make the necessary changes back when the problem first became apparent around 2000? It certainly can't be good for business when a person Googles 'Honda Odyssey' and "transmission problems" show up at the top of the results list.
  • I would check the vehcile owers' feedback at Consumers Reports (dots). I don't believe that Mitsubishi is all that good as far as their vehcles division goes. Once upon a time, about 5-7 years ago they were suppose to get out of building vehicles. Anything you GOOGLE stays ontop. Put in Chrysler and tranmssions and you get Dodge transmission recalls - -on top. A person on ODYCLUB.COM bought a 2006 Odyssey after having had 3 transmiisons replaced in an early model; because he liked the Odyssey in all it's other best things. People buy high price BMWs amd MBs and keep them in top shap with odoodles of money because they love their cars features and performance. I currently have 245,000 kms (149,500 miles) on my Odyssey and I will try to keep it "forever"

    2002 Honda Odyssey EX
    1992 Ford Taurus L 4 door 300 cu in long-stroke
    1982 Ford E150 Customized by Triple-E travel Van 351 cu ins V8
    1979 Mercury Zephyr 6 cylinder 4-door sedan
    1972 Datsun 510 4-door automatic
    1967 Plymount Valiant 2-door sedan large-V6
    1965 Morris 1100
    1963 Austin 850 mini
  • On a new 2010 LX Odyssey I have noticed a vibration I can turn on and off.

    I can get rid of the vibration (feels like you're driving on a washboard) by turning off the overdrive. At 80KMH I can feel it the most and turning off and on the overdrive will turn off and on the vibration. On a slight incline I have the same vibration at about 60 KMH. This was verified by the HONDA mechanic who said to me it was the transmission trying to find the right gear. He had suggested that I turn off the overdrive. There was a 2009 courtesy Odyssey that we test drove and it had the same condition. In the end, he said this was not the judder noted in the TSB calling for a program or torque converter change.

    Now I have the same droning noise when I have a "cold" start and it lasts for a few minutes. Do you have the same issue, that it is temporary?

    So far I have BS from CSR and Case Manager who tell me this is a "normal" operating characteristic of the vehicle. Obviously if I can turn on and off the vibration by turning on and off the overdrive, it tells me there is a direct link or cause, especially if the HONDA tech tells me the transmission is trying to find the right gear. The game that is played is the dealership cannot replace parts if they cannot root cause the issue properly as HONDA will not compensate them if it doesn't fix the issue. I know this as I initially had the vibration issue and they re-balanced the tires. Issue is still there and they have not sent me my "work" order. They told me once HONDA gives approval for the dealership, I'll get the work order. So if there is no TSB (or product update), they may not get compensated for work done if it does not solve the issue.

    I'll be escalating this issue to the next level. Anyone else have the same issue.
  • g3guyg3guy Posts: 31
    This is not true. Any replacement of your transmission by a Honda dealer, whether they pay part of it or not, gives you a 3-year, 36,000 mile warranty. Your dealer is BSing you, again.......don't let them do it to you. Go to another dealer for a second opinion.
  • hogan773hogan773 Posts: 255
    I notice a little drone right around 30mph when cruising on local streets.....for me its not too big of a deal and I think I'm primed to hear it after reading some of these 30mph one of the drones you're referring to?
  • dcoitdcoit Posts: 1
    hey all, help. I have a 2004 odessey ex w/174,000 miles. traction control light has come on and doesn't go off.also check engine light is on. add in the engine is bucking big time. does this sound like a tranny problem?
  • It certainly sounds like it could be a transmission problem. When we took our 2007 Odyssey to the dealer even the technician who drove it called it a "bucking bronco."
  • It's too bad to see Toyota going through all these problems that they are facing nowadays, I thought their safety record and keeping customer safety as #1 priority was solid. However, maybe it is not so. It is hard to believe that a company that would replace their trucks because some of the components would rust prematurely would allegedly try to hide the fact that there are mechanical faults with their parts which causes the sudden acceleration problem.

    However, my issue is a bit different. If the whole world can subpoena the heck out of Toyota's execs for documents about this issue since there were some complaints (well, there were some fatalities too, but...), can't the same people subpoena the heck out of Honda's Odyssey transmission issues? Maybe there were no fatalities (thank God yet) but some people reported coming close when their van got stuck in the middle of the expressway. And also considering that there are numerous complaints to NHTSA, maybe it is not out of reach... I wish someone did this and the faulty transmissions would be recalled. I own a 07 EX and am worried that my trans will also go south in a few years.
  • Hi all, new to the board here.

    I bought a 2001 Odyssey a few months back. It has 79,000 and was a one owner vehicle until I bought it. All service and maintenance was done at the dealer on schedule and the owner said he never had any transmission problems, I have not had any problems with the transmission yet in the 4 months/4000 miles I have put on it.

    For those that have been through the whole recall process, can you tell me whether or not I am still covered by the warranty extension? When I put my VIN number into the Honda site, it said I was covered (in a 2002 letter to owners), but that the extension was only good until 7 years after purchase or 100,000 miles (whichever is first). So its now 2 years after the 7 year window and I am wondering if I am covered or not. I thought I had read somewhere that Honda extended it again to 110,000 but I am not sure. Also, as I already said, I have not had any problems with the tranny yet - but am wondering what Honda's protocol is for the recall if I am still covered - do I just wait until it breaks and then get it replaced or can I be proactive and get it replaced now.

    Also - any Odyssey owners out there NOT have tranny problems? I would like to think that since I haven't had problems yet, maybe I won't, but I've read enough comments on here to know that it could go at anytime.

  • We may be one of the exceptions, as we have not had any transmission problems with our 2000 Odyssey. We currently have 270k miles on it. Before purchasing our van my husband had read some complaints about the transmission. So, when we went to purchase our Odyssey we paid to have an ATF cooler installed. Now, whether or not that has had anything at all to do with our good fortune, I can't really say. Anyway, it certaintly didn't hurt.
  • hogan773hogan773 Posts: 255
    edited February 2010
    "Also - any Odyssey owners out there NOT have tranny problems? I would like to think that since I haven't had problems yet, maybe I won't, but I've read enough comments on here to know that it could go at anytime."

    Yes of course MOST Odyssey owners have not had tranny problems. I realize you're using hyperbole, but I think its safe to say that the vast majority of Odysseys out there have not had tranny failures. Don't you think if like 90% were failing you'd hear more about it? There is already a negative bias on boards like this, as the first or second thing many people do when they have a problem is Google it, and then they find their way to these boards and post about how horrible it is. Most of the soccer moms out there aren't bothering to post "hey, another great day with my Odyssey -- its still running perfectly!"
  • Thanks for the reply. I know that not all Odyssey owners have had problems, and I assume you are correct in saying that most have not. I really did not mean to imply that every Odyssey tranny was going to fail - I'm just trying to gauge how widespread the problem is. This is my first Odyssey so I am trying to learn about the problem. What I have read multiple times is that the tranny failure has to do with a design failure and that several people who are having problems still end up having problems down the road even with the replacement tranny because Honda hasn't really fixed the problem. If that's the case, then I am assuming the same design-flawed tranny found in someone else's van is probably also in mine - thus there is a decent chance of me having the same problem at some point. If it's a deign problem, why would some owners have problems and others not? If you are correct that most owners aren't having problems - then I feel better about this. But, as I said, if the problem is a design flaw and that same flawed tranny is in my van that is on these other posters' vans that have gone bad, then I need to keep that in mind.
  • hogan773hogan773 Posts: 255
    I dont know for sure, but I had the same worries before just deciding to go with the Ody. Risk on reading these boards are that we over-assume the percentages. There are probably 1 million + Odysseys on the road in the US right now? Having a very loud 1 person, or 10 people, posting back and forth about their specific problems makes for a long message thread and so we extrapolate that......but I have trouble believing that hundreds of thousands of transmissions are really failing prematurely. That said, there probably is something to this, but I guess all I'm saying is don't assign a 100% probability to the chances. Maybe 1% or 5% - who knows. Its like the Toyota issues - you get a few hundred reports (some of which are probably true, and some of which are probably operator error) across an base of million vehicles, and all of the sudden "EVERY" Toyota is a diabolical gremlin machine he[[ bent on destroying us......
  • ea7576ea7576 Posts: 10
    Just my 2 cents - I have been in the automotive industry for much of my career and have spent the last 7 years working for a large fleet leasing company. This job gives me the opportunity to drive many different makes and models of cars on the road today. In my garage I currently have a 2007 Honda Odyssey EX that I leased for my wife and a 2010 Chrysler T&C Touring (my company car).

    As for the Odyssey - the paint started peeling on the rear bumper 3 months into the lease (repainted under warranty). 18 months into lease the trans quit, totally dead (11,000 miles). "repaired" under warranty. Van has never been the same - surges between 1500 and 2250 rpm at 40MPH. Dealer says all is "OK" Very scary - lease is up in 3 months - can't wait to give it back.

    Bottom line - The Odyssey is an impressive vehicle when working. It drives like a car and has impressive road manners however its mechanical gremlins are real and need to be addressed by Honda. Car's today are built with cost cutting in mind. Combine this with advanced electronics and hardware and you have a recipe for disaster (think Toyota) It does not help that Edmund's makes it sound like the Odyssey can do no wrong. The beauty of the T&C I am driving is that it's electronics and engine are archaic and very dated. Less pleasing driving experience but it is fairly reliable.

    In my opinion Japanese cars of the 1990's were better built when compared to their 2010 counterparts.
  • can any one help me with my van i am having transmission problems took it to a tranny shop said it was solenoid problems code po740 and p1750 so now i am trying to find out if i can get it replaced bought it from a friend it has a salvaged title wondering if dealer will help me cause it is under the class action suit HELP PLEASE!!!!!1
  • The drone is when I turn on the engine with no car movement. I can get a vibration (as though driving on a gentle washboard) at about 60 KM/H (ie. about 35 MPH) and notice it more at 80 KM/H. If you turn off your overdrive, does your droning turn off? And is it a drone or a vibration you are having an issue with?
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    Salvage title ? I think Honda won't help.
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