New Sierra/Silverado 2500 & 3500

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  • johnt9johnt9 Member Posts: 10
    wow, at least you got your convictions. i am considering 3/4 ton cc also. just considering all alternatives.
  • t37l1011t37l1011 Member Posts: 24
    Well, our 1995 1500 Suburban does just fine hauling kids and pulling a boat or camper. I'm not planning on piling 2 tons of gravel in the back, so I'm not sure why I would need a 3/4 ton. I'll admit I'm chomping at the bit for a 2500HD with the duramax diesel, but I don't consider the suburban overmatched for what we use it for. I've got a friend who has a 1 ton dually who had to remove a leaf spring from each side because it was bouncing his fifth wheel camper so badly. You can get too much for the job your planning. Just a thought.
  • johnt9johnt9 Member Posts: 10
    has anyone gotten any prices for 3/4 ton cc 2001 on order? deal told me msrp-1000 just to order.
  • richardm6richardm6 Member Posts: 45
    I think it's a good idea, because most people just use their pickups for moving people. I just hope they don't build them at the expence of the HD trucks. Just my 2 cents.

    Richard Mc
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    ....if you sold 97% of X and 3% of Y...which one would you put higher priority on?

    too many people who "just haul people" don't know what they are missing by not even looking at a 2500.....I too was in the dark...but I saw the light!

    hehee

    - Tim
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    that he too saw the light....Hmmm...is it the same light? LOL!!

    People mover...buy a 1 ton van...
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
    I ordered mine for 200 over invoice minus the 370 advertising or "adjustment fees"...It was built on the 10th and shipped on the 12th....Should be here any day...01 chevy crew cab LT SWB, 4x4, 6.0, 4.10's,.Black, grey leather....

    Tim, no luck on the digital camera...he doesn't have one and I don't know of anyone that does...
    Seem more and more CC are showing up...My dealer told me today he just received 3 and of course my father in law got his from another dealer...he is a lucky guy...he ordered the last week of August and got his Crew Cab by the middle of OCT...Some people have been waiting since may...He doesn't even realize it either...
  • dave40dave40 Member Posts: 582
    I test drove the GMC 2500HD CC
    with the 8.1 and Allision today
    Real smooth at 90mph... I will go with the Reg cab 8' bed in 2003 with the 8.1 & Allison
  • richardm6richardm6 Member Posts: 45
    I ordered a Chevrolet HD crewcab LS shortbox with Duramax/Allison on June 30th. I was told yesterday that it was built Oct 16th and is on QA hold. It should be released soon for delivery. We will be towing our camper with it.

    Richard Mc
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    If you get a picture into a computer some how...send it to me and I will post it for ya..

    Nice combo....my truck to the exact....except 00 Ext.cab....

    I saw a another supercrew up close today....nice truck...but should be a 3/4 instead...

    I just don't think the crew cab seats folded down is going to give me any more room than an extended cab with the seat folded flat....I'll have more front to back room.....but lose 12-16 inches of floor space to ceiling...and not be able to put heavy things..(like 1/2 BBLs...hehehehehe) in the back and have a solid surface to rest on....

    maybe an Ex.cab is still me?

    we will see....

    it'll be a 6.0 though....don't need the 8.1/Duramax or Allison

    - Tim
  • t37l1011t37l1011 Member Posts: 24
    Where do you live? I want to come drive that truck. Dealers around here say it could be next century before they see the duramax.

    Bud
  • hunter98hunter98 Member Posts: 273
    I have some comments to make about the 1500, first of all it is plenty capible for most people, the argument that someone said that they don't know why anyone would buy a half ton was a dumb comment. Both trucks have their advantages and a half ton can fill a nice niche for alot of people. It can tow as much as the gas powered 3/4 (std 2500), they can carry people and cargo as much as most of the public will. They can be overloaded without hurting them if you do it within reason. I've had 3400 lbs in the bed of my half ton. Towed over 20k at 20mph (grain wagon), towed 12k at 60 several times. Towed about 10K today goin 45 on back roads. It can be done, most people don't need the extra cost/ride sacrifice/loss of gas milage of a 3/4 ton. As far as for me, the next time it will be a 3/4 ton because I overload the capabilities of a half ton regularily on the farm. Another half ton would probable do the job but a 3/4 will suit my needs with less risk of failure. To each his own, some of you with 3/4 tons will never load your vehicle to its capability, that is fine but a half ton might have suited you as well.
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
    When I get my truck I'll send you an e-mail with these pics as attachments...I have a scanner so i'll just scan them in...

    In the mean time i'll try to get some pics of my pops in laws truck...

    I asked the dealer today about the CC rear seat and he said it folded flat like the surburban seats...not sure if that means at floor level or at seat level...Father in Law already took his truck to the deer lease today an won't be back till Sunday...He has had it two days and has 300+ miles on it..said he got 12.5MPG on first tank with mixed driving...
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    Ride sacrifice to you is ride advantage to me...

    extra cost is minimal...and gas milage is nothing to be concerned about...

    ..see...even YOU want the 3/4!

    .....what was the problem again?

    hehehehe

    - Tim
  • blawlessblawless Member Posts: 29
    I pull a big camper and boat. I can justify a 3/4t in a heartbeat, and I am buying a 1-ton because we are planning on a bigger camper.

    The guy in my cubicle has owned nothing but mustangs for the last 10 years and now wants to buy a 1t CC because he "hauls stuff all of the time". I've known him for six years and never seen him in any truck but mine for a ride home.

    My point is, if he wants a pickup for occasional hauling like a new refrigerator of some fencing materials, a hunting boat, or wet dogs he can easily get buy with one of the new 1/2t crew cabs. He doesn't need a big dooley just because he thinks they look neat.

    When all of these people who don't need big trucks start buying them, the price goes through the roof for those of us who need them. For the year 2000, my local dealer had 3 1t CC's on the lot that sold for less than the 3/4t XC's due to popularity. If someone wants a half ton, let 'em have it.

    P.S. mine's a half ton.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    seen a 97 1/2 silverado long bed CREW CAB. Yes a crew cab. this thing was so long. It was a conversion it was at the service dept this morning.

    Ryan
  • greggauchogreggaucho Member Posts: 62
    I'm with Tim, the difference in ride is certainly not a step down in the 2500/3500. The fuel economy is a little different (unless you are getting the Dmax, like me), but these trucks are certainly not Fiestas. The big difference is the brakes, overall substance, and overall durability. I know a bunch of guys with 1/2-tons, unfortunately myself included, and none of them inspire confidence when towing even moderate size boats (19' inboard aluminum jet), or a pair of ATVs. The brakes are no where near as good. You are stuck with getting crummy P-rated tires (by the way, the difference in price between 1500 and 2500 gets made up by most people just by upgrading to real tires). Last week a buddy of mine and I took his Chevy 1/2-ton hunting. Towed a light trailer with two ATVs, and loaded the back of the truck with camping gear and two 55-lb dogs. That truck squatted sooo low, and we blew one of those toy tires that come from the factory.

    By the way I said "I barely understand why you would want a 1/2-ton full-size truck". If you think you are never going to haul more than a load of bark or a refrigerator, the brakes, tranny, and suspension are probably fine for you on the 1500 (you still have those crummy tires though).
  • t37l1011t37l1011 Member Posts: 24
    I must agree that the P tires are really weak for a truck. Our 1500 Suburban came with Michelin P's and we got about 32,000 miles on them. I replaced them with some cheap Kelly no names from Walmart in LT form and we've now got about 33,000 on them and they stll have a long way to go. I'll take cheap LT's anyday over name brand P's. They also gave a much better (firmer) ride. Hey Richard, when you gonna let me drive that truck?

    Bud
  • richardm6richardm6 Member Posts: 45
    I've seen a lot of 1/2 ton trucks and Suburbans towing and hauling way more than the should be. H*ll I've done it myself, but it's not much fun coming up to a corner or stop light and wondering if your going to be able to stop or keep the truck in your lane going around a curve. When I tow my travel trailer with my 1/2 ton truck and I get up to between 55-60mph the truck starts to road walk very bad.

    Bud I live north of Dallas
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Every weekend i see people overhauling its crazy. Try working in a lumber yard its funny what you see. Ive seen people leave with 4 flat tires. Even seen honda accords hauling 24ft 2x6's.

    Ryan
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    Honda was hauling 24' 4x6
  • t37l1011t37l1011 Member Posts: 24
    Let me know when you get that big beautiful new truck in and I'll come see you. As far as overloading, when I'm cutting firewood and hauling it in my S-15 (83 with 2.8L) I can't even load it up to the top of the sidewalls because the suspension sinks so low. I just haul less than a full load rather than severely overload it. Yea, I've seen other people do it, but I don't feel safe overloaded. That's why I want a new 2500HD, so I can do more of what I want with it, and maybe someday even get a big 5th wheel camper to pull behind it.

    Bud
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Yea dean. Also i didnt add it was the middle of winter. Snow and ice on the ground. Hope he made it home.

    Another story is a guy in a 1976 chevy reg cab short bed came in and picked up 110 bundles (2 pallets plus a few) all in 1 trip. Darn truck barely sagged. I was amazed. He put it in drive but the truck died to much weight. We tied a tow rope to his truck from a fork lift gave him a pull as we pulled he started the truck and drove off. Made it home and came back for more that day. Im still shakin my head. Like a rock is a true statement

    Ryan
  • sovercash1sovercash1 Member Posts: 112
    You can always Haul a small Load in a Big truck, But you can't Haul a big load in a small truck..

    I think that has always stuck in the back of my mind...

    Cheverolet 2500HD is for me..

    SteveO
  • richardm6richardm6 Member Posts: 45
    SteveO

    I agree 100%, thats the reason I ordered my HD crewcab with Duramax/Allison that way I can do move just about anything I need to.

    Richard Mc
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
    Truck will be delivered to me on Tuesday! Ordered Aug 7th, built oct 10th, shipped on the 12th....arrived at dealer on the 21st...Black Crew CAb LT 4x4 SWB....identical to the truck in the HD commercials!
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    send us pics asap bruddah!

    ..... - Tim
  • z71z71 Member Posts: 67
    with the onstar? I saw one today at the dealership. The onstar antenna placement has got to be the strangest that I have ever seen.
  • t37l1011t37l1011 Member Posts: 24
    I haven't seen an HD period. None of the dealers around have them. I guess most of the market around here is for 1\2 tons. Kind of tough to check one out before you order when there isn't anything to check. I haven't seen any of the new orange paint jobs either. I guess the chattanooga area isn't the best place to find a truck if you don't think like everybody else.

    Bud
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    wow 2 dealers around here (northwest indiana) have about 7-10 HD's each both the 6.0 and 8.1

    Ryan
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    has a nice LT Ext.cab Black HD.....8 foot box..and an Indigo with Black flares....base though.....and they have an Orange 1500 LS....so come on over to Michigan!

    - Tim
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Never seen an orange yet :(

    Tim have you seen the black is hard to get. I think they have a hold of some sort

    Ryan
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    - Tim
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    NAH TIM DONT GO OUTTA YOUR WAY ILL SEE ONE SOON

    RYAN

    sorry for the caps
  • wight1wight1 Member Posts: 218
    Saw my first 2500HD in Houston yesterday already bought and in service. 4WD with Duramax diesel. Guy already had a bedliner installed and was hauling some video game machines down the highway. Didn't see any dealer tags or decals on it, so don't know where he got it. Awesome looking truck and diesel is surprisingly quiet. And it accelerates really fast!! Might have to trade in my Y2K 2500LS for one.
  • chrisj7chrisj7 Member Posts: 6
    i live in apple valley california, about 100 miles north of l.a.. can anyone tell me what a fair price over the factory invoice would be on a 2500 hd/cc with the 8.1. i'am willing to order out of state if necessary. also, is the duramax worth the extra premium?, as i would lease this truck for 36months and put appx 12k per year on the odometer. i have been told that you need to rack a lot of miles for a diesel to become cost effective. thanks for any help you could give.

    chrisj
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
    My HD2500 Crew Cab is black and is now supposed to be shipped to me on THursday...dealer gave me i don't have a drive until thursday story...he was suppose to deliver it today....

    Congradulations wight1, you are the first duramax diesel sighter in Houston that i know of...hell i have only seen 4 crew cabs and I live in Baytown and drive to the galleria everyday for work...where were you at when you saw it? Was it a ext cab, crew cab or reg cab?
  • trw3trw3 Member Posts: 35
    Can anyone give me an idea on lead times for delivery. My 2500hd sierra slt sb cc w/ 6.0 was to have been built the week of Oct the 9th. Mine was put into the system in June after not recieving allocation on my 2000 cc that was ordered in Feb. I'm getting impatient. I'm located 100 miles south of Chicago, I assume the truck is built in the Michigan plant? I was told in Sept. by my dealer that black paint was on constraint for those wondering, however obviously that has been corrected. There are no cc in my area yet but I have seen 1 2wd ext. 2500HD. I was somewhat surprised by how tall it sat. I intend to go with a taller tires if possible. Does anyone know how tall you can go without hitting? I would like to run at least 33s or maybe a 34 swampper. Also I would like any ideas on mileage. I'd like to get 15 mpg on the highway but I think I'm probably wishing. Any replies would be appreciated.
  • greggauchogreggaucho Member Posts: 62
    You need to be more specific of your use. If your just going to drive to soccer games and the grocery store, you don't need the Dmax. If you are maxing out with a huge 5th wheel, the Dmax might even make sence while leasing for 3 years.

    As far as prices, it depends on your rush. If your willing to wait, the same rules as other cars apply, somewhere around $500 over invoice is appropriate. You will have to shop/hunt around to find it though.
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    ..only problem is.....does anyone make an LT rated tire in that size?.....too many people put after market tires on 2500's...but don't get the right rating...and defeat the use of a 2500's hauling capacity....oh well....ain't my truck!

    Good Luck

    - Tim
  • rgould22rgould22 Member Posts: 21
    I ordered my 2500HD EC SB 4X4 forest green 6.0L on July 10. It was built Sept 20 and arrived at the dealer Oct 13.
  • chrisj7chrisj7 Member Posts: 6
    thanks for your response. i tow a weekend warrior 26ft trailer that weights appx 7,500 loaded, quads, gas, sandrail, tools etc. what do you think?. also the dealer say's that the 8.1 with the locking diff is available with the 3.73 only.
    i would like to go to a larger tire, but wouldn't this hurt the performance?, if not what would be a good size tire/wheel combo to go to? i do appreciate the help.

    thanks/chrisj7
  • greggauchogreggaucho Member Posts: 62
    chrisj7

    The more you drive, the more the diesel makes sense.

    However, the next question: is it what you WANT or what you NEED? If you have the means and WANT to have the ultimate torque/power diesel rig? Go ahead and get the Dmax. I'm guessing you would not regret it. If you need something to tow that stuff, but do not really have a big desire to have the diesel or want to spend the extra money, the 8.1L is more than capable and probably a better buy for your probable 3-year lease.

    As for me, it is mostly a "what I WANT" situation. I won't be hauling huge 5th wheels or coming close to the max ratings of even the 6.0L. But I do haul OFTEN and I LOVE diesels and I WANT the Duramax. I also plan on keeping this truck for a LONG WHILE.
  • n75v111n75v111 Member Posts: 243
    Ordered 1st of September - 2500HD 4x4 LT ExCab SB w 8100/Allison-

    Has anyone had a TPW assigned yet???

    75v
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
    Saw it yesterday...one sweet ride..exactly like mine except i got the 6.0..getting mine delivered tomorrow!
  • chrisj7chrisj7 Member Posts: 6
    greggaucho: appreciate your ideas and inputs on 8.1 vs dmax. if i put a slightly bigger tire on this truck, should i get the 4.10 or stick with the 3.73? thanks, chrisj7
  • 4x44x4 Member Posts: 114
    Got it today...drove a hundred miles tonight showing people and going out to eat...filled her back up to the top and got 15MPG on the first hundred miles...not to shabby...6.0, 4.10's, 4x4, crew cab, LT, Black...going to the firestone dealer in the morning to try and work out a swap...
  • mgdvhmanmgdvhman Member Posts: 4,157
    But give us something to see man!!

    LOL

    Nice Combo

    - Tim
  • richardm6richardm6 Member Posts: 45
    This is the web site for Canadian National the train co. that handles our trucks first if they come from Flint or Pontiac plants. The web site is www.cn.ca (with no .com). I tryed it and it works. My truck is in Battle Creek Michigan, and will be handed off to www.BNSF.com tonight at 10:00.

    Hope this helps Richard Mc
  • sdpiersonsdpierson Member Posts: 69
    2001 2500 ext. cab shortbed 4x4 with 3.73 (not a HD).

    4X4--that mileage sounds great. I've driven about 70 miles and used maybe 1/8 tank. I'll fill up after more miles and post MPG's.
    Maybe the aluminum heads do help.
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