Yep, us folks workin that farm, growin that tabacco aint got no need for that algore fella for sure! That UAW shoulda kept outa backin that tree hugger for sure! Looks like that algore fella goin twist that truth till he be gettin what he be chasin after now. Looks like them paycuts be headin this way too! Good luck on this one now!
Some posts have been hidden because they are off topic, or they include personal attacks toward other participants. It's okay to bash the trucks, but not the participants. Okay?
And now for the benefit of those that came here to discuss the Tundra vs the Big 3, let's continue with this subject. Thanks for your participation. ;-)
Gettin' back to the size. Got passed up by another Tundra with a leer canopy (100XL). As it pulled up besides a Silverado (ex cab 4x4 with a canopy), I was having a hard time seeing any size difference. Yes, my vision is excellent...20/15 both eyes. Is this some trick by Toyota, using optical projectors are are these trucks really that close? when I see a silverado 4x4 next to a f-150 4x4, the chevy always looks smaller (so does the Tundra). I think it's because ford raises their 4x4 more and uses 17in tires
I don't see the point of raising up a truck if it doesn't increase ground clearance. I know it may look better, but it raises the center of gravity(bad for roll stability) and makes it harder to load. I hear that chevy got the lowest loading height of them all(that's good). The shock mounts that hang down below the bottom of the truck are potentially bad for aggressive off-road. They snap off like twigs while going over boulder strewn terrain. Tundra don't have a rear locker or it'd be the best stock 4x4 truck out there. You can add an aftermarket locker for 400.00(DIY). Come on Toyota, get your act together!!!
what's the ground clearance difference between silverado and tundra...3"? i recall you saying yourself...a couple inches isn't a big deal right? or no? uh oh, i bet i start gettin' ratios thrown at me again now...
as for level-headed...i am pretty level headed...'cept when folks like you be makin' bone-headed comments that just make no sense. if you'd make some sense when you post...things would be so much better.
and as for your "name-calling" accusations, wasn't it you who started the whole batman, robin, etc...deal?
bco
ps...tundradude - if you're coming to sc and hoping for 80 degree weather this weekend...don't get your hopes too high. topped out at 50 out on the golf course today.
Them tundras got more ground clearance than them big3 ones cuz they got them tacoma pumpkins now. Eyeball them pumpkins, they aint no bigger round than a softball for sure. If them big3 ones was too be puttin little pumpkins on em, they would be gettin that clearance, but them big3 engines would be snappin them tiny ring gears in em quick with them big V8 torqin motors now. Guessin that little v8 in them tundas aint generatin enough torque too be hurtin that tacoma pumpkin now. Facts is facts, use them eyes for this one now. Good luck on this one now!
Them forien ones aint rated too haul more than 2000lbs, without them helper bars, and then that load got too be kept under 45mph for sure. Yep, that sure is a "full size" workin truck with them specs now! That hitch mystery may be solved with these facts now. Read on it in that tundra owners manual now. That truth just keeps gettin out on em. Good luck on this one now!
It aint too hard too be understandin them haulin restrictions of them limited ones now. Eyeball that pumpkin and trannie on them ones. Yup, them parts be comin right outa them tacoma ones. Real haulin takes "full size" drivetrains now, not them tiny parts from them little ones. Use your eyes on this one now. Good luck on this one now!
Enough with the personal attacks, Kyle! How about you stop your name calling and flaming posts, so we can talk about the trucks without being attacked by you!
Silverado's shake, but we point out the Tundra's shake worse.
They say a Ram one ton can't tow (article where Dodge got sued), we point out hitch, 45mph towing, 2000# limits.
Say the Silverado rusts, we show examples of Tundra's rusting.
What do you have next?? When will you guys admit the Silverado is a good truck?? I think I've heard just about all the Chevy guys say Toyota isn't bad, but you Tundra guys think your [non-permissible content removed] don't stink. Talk about blind brand loyality...
Them folks need only look too that ownin manual for these facts on them tundra ones: They cant haul more than 2000 lbs They cant haul that 2000lbs quicker than 45mph
Aint never heard of no "full size" one that was restricted like that now. Them ones be more restricted than them big3 little ones! What this be tellin ya on them ones now? What say too this one? Good luck on this one now!
Swobig, I do admit, the Silverado is a good truck. And so is the F-150 and Ram. They all have their positives and negatives.
Justtheone, nowhere in the Tundra manual does it say you can't tow over 2000 lbs, and there's no mention of 45 mph max either, so get your act together. Bama is right, you are a liar.
The "twinkies" that Justheruns is throwing out there are intended for the Chevy crowd. They are the only ones naive enough to believe her lies. She is just getting lonely and is doing some trolling.
I have read many of your posts #482 is the best yet. You think Toyota should get its act together and put a locker on the Tundra. I said this a over a year ago - one reason I passed on the Tundra - Limited options - I wanted a locking rear end. You never know when this option will be needed.
I had to take my son to a friends B-day party tonight (lazer tag) - I spent 2 hours in the parking lot waiting. The parking lot was only about 1/2 full - and some guy in a 2x4 Tundra decided instead of backing out of his parking place he would just drive forward through the space in front of him -big mistake- the lot has concrete dividers between the rows - you know the thing that stops your tire when you park. Somehow this guy ended up with one front tire in front of the tire stop and one tire behind it. He was stuck. He could not go forward - could not back up. He had one rear tire smoking - Do you think this guy would have wanted a locking rear end. The pure N-bare-[non-permissible content removed]-ment he suffered was far more that the $250 I paid for the locking differential. Can you imagine being stuck in a concrete parking lot!! A few good samaritans (myself included) helped set him free.
Still going strong at 18,000 miles with no problems. I get about 13 mpg towing a trailer in city traffic, and about 17 mpg around town when I'm not using it for work.
Pros: Super strong engine and acceleration, Trouble free service, smooth and quiet ride, solid braking, 4 door convenience, size is more manageable on narrow city streets, super cupholders and console setup, affordable cd/cassette combo, reasonably comfortable seats(Dodge is better, Ford is much worse to me, can't comment on Chevy). Ride height and stance on a 2wd w/ bigger tires closely resembles a 4wd, which I find better looking than "lowrider" pickups.
Cons: Door indents don't hold door open on even slight inclines(a real shin buster), Truck needs 4 wheel ABS to avoid locking up powerful front brakes, seat needs another 2" of travel for my legs, parking brake intrudes on left leg room, springs are a little too soft, resulting in excess body roll. Stereo speakers are inferior, but are an easy $100 upgrade. Rear seat room is compromised by smaller size, but I haven't had a passenger back there yet, so I don't really care. I use it for storage only. Paint seems to chip too easily, transmission shifts to a high gear too early at low speeds. Seats could be more supportive and larger. Arm rests on bucket seats are ridiculously short.
Overall, I can't pick a better truck for my purposes, especially when you factor in stellar resale and reliability. It's nice to just put gas in and drive, and not have to worry about various defects.
My owner's manual does not list the restrictions you continue to post. The 2000lbs/45mph limit you made up is not true!!!!!! That supreme court be slappin' down hard on that UAW darling. Good luck on this one now. I can't wait for that big fat raise!
re: #487 "Enough with the personal attacks, Kyle! How about you stop your name calling and flaming posts, so we can talk about the trucks without being attacked by you!"
HUH???
anyways, maybe you can start us off by learning how to spell justtheone's name right...eh?
incidentally, if you consider factual posts about a truck personal...you just might be too close to it, rob.
great post. glad to hear everything is going well for you. anyone else with, say, more than 10k miles (arbitrary #) up for posting they're experiences?
not sure if we want to ruin the exceptional dialogue in this thread by tainting it with real-life evaluations of our own trucks. of course, it would follow that a person's evaluation really shouldn't be attacked by anyone else...but i'm thinking that's why folks prob'ly wouldn't buy in. thoughts?
Them folks who be ownin them limited ones be knowin that truth on them haulin restrictions. Go too that seqoria forum, them folks be givin them tells on them haul restrictions, and they be mad! Aint it funny how them ones who was tricked on them tundras still hidin that truth? Guessin them ones with them seqoria ones aint as shamed as them limited folks be. Truth is truth, facts is facts. Good luck on this one now!
Towing: In my opinion, towing is serious business because it increases risk to the passengers and other motorists.Power (hp and torque), wheelbase, braking, hitch capacities, load leveling, etc are all important elements. A deficiency in any one area can spell disaster or at least disappointment. If I planned on towing over 2500lbs, I would definitely be concerned about using the Sequoia. Why? 1) My previous 4.7l truck felt somewhat underpowered pulling an empty 3500lb trailer over slopes. It certainly was sufficient and safe, but lacking nevertheless. 2) Both the 1997 truck I owned and the 2000 Suburban I owned said nothing about not exceeding 45mph while towing. I think this restriction may be more than simple legal jargon to limit Toyota liability -- if Toyota doesn't feel comfortable with their vehicle towing over 45mph, what does this say? I don't know with full confidence what this restriction means, but it would concern me because other similar tow vehicles don't have the same disclaimer. Plus, I can't imagine not driving over 45mph on highways and interstates -- I can hear the honks already. It seems for those who want to tow, that some clarification on the 45mph limit, and real world Sequoia towing experiences would be helpful.
Towbars: I am surprised that Toyota recommends these above 2000 pounds. In my mind, if Toyota says the vehicle can tow X pounds, it should be able to tow X pounds without adding "optional equipment." Otherwise, Toyota should state that additional equipment is required. To the best of my knowledge, other manufacturers will tell you exactly that -- that something else might be needed to reach maximum towing capacity. As for trailer brakes, sure, they are very helpful, but they are really completely irrelevant when it comes to listing maximum towing ability. I, for one, would be very upset with Toyota and my dealer if I had to return the vehicle to the dealer, waste a day, and pay anything additional for optional sway bars.
We were reading the owner's manual of our new Sequoia 2wd Limited, and were surprised to read 1)Towing not recommended until after 2000 mile break-in period 2)When towing "do not exceed 45mph." 3)sway control device necessary for towing over 2000 pounds
None of these issues were mentioned by our dealer, who knew that we were buying the Sequoia as a tow vehicle for appx. 5000# horse-trailer.
Anybody talked to Toyota about these issues?
And here be one who be ownin that tundra had too say too that one above:
#3 of 169: Tundra towing... (redwoody) Sun 03 Dec '00 (11:45 AM)
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual 1) 500 mile break-in before towing 2) same "do not exceed 45mph" 3) same way control device recommendation
Cant them folks who own them tundras on this here forum even read? Them ones be quick too shout "liar", cuz that truth be stingin em hardest! Facts is facts now! Good luck on this one now!
1) cant exceed 45 mph when haulin 2) require control devices for 2000 pound hauls
These are simple truths, comin from that factory on em. Why cant them folks just be admittin that truth, as stated in them ownin manuals now? Them ones with them sequoria ones be steamin mad bout these facts, yet them folks here be attackin the one who be pointin that truth out too em! Guessin we know which folks had "planned" on workin em now! Good luck on this one now!
The japanese will never make a FULL size truck, the toyota groupies like the cramper interiors and 1/2" thick doors too much. I'M suprised the toyota sales are as good as they are, since the most are made in America now. Most hard core foreign car guys hate to buy anything made in America, Oh well I guess they will have to adjust Got a relative who wants a new forerunner, gonna have him come in and test drive new Yukon, I'm confident he'll throw rocks at the forelimper, I mean forerunner ,after that. No substitute for a big American v-8 baby!!I have a hard time selling a mini truck and keeping a straight face! But those guys usually don't care what they cost, long as they're small and underpowered!
Folks who own them forien ones be givin tells on how that ownin manual be statin them facts on that lack of haul. Them facts be put there by that factory, statin them limitations on them ones for sure. Go to that sequoria forum, folks there who own them limited ones be gettin madd on how that factory tricked em. They was wantin one with haul and got one without any. There be some tundra owners there too, statin the facts on how them ones got them same restrictions. So much for them "full size" forien ones now. Good luck on this one now!
Those people wanted to buy a Toyota Tundra. Let me give you some facts on Ford & Chevy now. The Chevy has a light frame that they keep having to add braces to, so they can stiffen it up. Plus the new Silverado has exploding rear ends. The F-150 has a frame that is not much thicker then a toothpick and it has a overly complex sohc V-8. Yes the Ram is not a perfect truck some do have transmission problems that I have heard of, but at least they have a good frame under them. So give the Tundra owners a break Justtheone. They did not want a real full-size truck that is why they got a Tundra.
Aint gettin most of what ya was tellin now. As for them folks not wantin a "full size" one, ya be missin that point. Them folks been sayin that them limited ones is "full size"! Ya aint quite gettin these tells, are ya now? Best be readin on these tells more careful now, as too get that learnin from em. Good luck on this one now!
They were impressed with the towing ability of the Tundra.
Quotes: "But we especially liked the power of the Tundra's 4.7-liter V-8. Combined with the four-speed automatic transmission with overdrive, this powertrain did not disappoint. And we pushed it hard. With the 6,300-pound Tahoe behind us, kissing the Tundra's 7,100-pound tow rating, we went from sea-level to 9,000 feet through desert heat in late summer and the Tundra never so much as hiccuped."
Libby - you seem to think that by posting your lies repetitively - you lend them more credence.
#3 of 169: Tundra towing... (redwoody) Sun 03 Dec '00 (11:45 AM)
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual 1) 500 mile break-in before towing 2) same "do not exceed 45mph" 3) same way control device recommendation
Guessin anybody with them tells that be stingin ya must be strechin that truth now? Yuppie logic: the twistin of that truth too be makin em feel better bout fad chasin. Good luck on this one now!
Them sequoria folks be gettin slapped with that truth on that lackin of that haul, and they be gettin mad! They aint takin that factory double talk no more! Them folks was plannin on workin them trucks and now that truth be gettin out. Aint it funny how them folks with them forien ones on this forum be tryin too bury that truth? Why is this? Go too that sequoria forum if ya seekin that truth on them limited ones now. Dont let that factory pull no wool. Good luck on this one now!
You are not making a lot of sense here. You say to go to a Toyota Sequoia form to find out about the Tundra. And this is coming from a so-called "hick" that stole pictures of her '52 from another website?
The facts are: The Tundra will tow up to its 7200 lb maximum by just adding a tow hitch. On the Chevy - you must upgrade the springs and add a transmission cooler to tow more than 5000 lbs. The Chevy loyalists are trying to evade this simple fact - the Tundra is a better 1/2 ton tow vehicle.
For them seekin that truth, look too them ownin manuals on em. Go too them sequoria forums, them ones aint "wool pullin" on that forum now. Good luck on this one now!
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual 1) 500 mile break-in before towing 2) same "do not exceed 45mph" 3) same way control device recommendation
Seek that truth on em, listen too them factory hints, get ya a big3 one if ya got the need too work em. If just fad chasin, pull the wool, and chase that shine. Good luck on this one now!
Those people wanted to buy a Toyota Tundra. Let me give you some facts on Ford & Chevy now. The Chevy has a light frame that they keep having to add braces to, so they can stiffen it up. Plus the new Silverado has exploding rear ends. The F-150 has a frame that is not much thicker then a toothpick and it has a overly complex sohc V-8. Yes the Ram is not a perfect truck some do have transmission problems that I have heard of, but at least they have a good frame under them. So give the Tundra owners a break Justtheone. They did not want a real full-size truck that is why they got a Tundra. Hey Justtheone just because you do not like the tundra that is no reason to put down someone else. If you do not like the tundra then do not buy one. It is plain a simple Justtheone the Tundra is not for you but just because your worn out old Chevy is rusting away do not put any other trucks down. By the way Justtheone that Tundra could pull your 52 Chevy around with ease. Go buy you a new truck or do you have to keep driving the 52 Chevy because you are not smart enough to buy a new truck. Judging by your post you need to return to school & please quit lieing.
Yep, all of these truths be stinging, so wool will be pulled on these truths from now on:
1) Tundra aint full size (truckin magazine,others) 2) No factory hitch on limited (edmunds,kbb) 3) Haul limitations (factory ownin manual)
All these truths listed above must be twisted cuz these facts be stingin them wool pullers. Keep twistin that truth yuppies, but that truth has that way of gettin out anyways. Good luck on this one now!
has those towing restrictions and the sales people knowingly sell it to those that want to work 'em. Doesn't make any sense as it will come back to haunt 'em.
just read the Sequoia and LC topics...you guys need to practice your flames...this topic is minor leagues compared to the heavy duty flaming going on over there...and it is very personal.
Seems the Seq isn't the only one with this recommendation. "I would tend to agree with you about the speed at which the manufactures tell you that one should tow. I own a SUV different from the Seq and in the safety information states that when towing, it is safest to not exceed 45mph.
I have been taught that the faster you tow in any vehicle, the faster things happen..."
Yep, them big3 ones be recommendin them bars for them really heavy loads at 12,000 lbs now. Course that be a far cry from that 2000 lbs load for them tundra/sequoria ones now. Seems them US of A ones just got more haul. Been said before, sayin it again, tundra=less truck, more buck. Looks like that same can be said of them sequoria ones now. Guessin all them forien ones just aint got that haul the workin man needs now. They got shine, but no haul. Good luck on this one now!
12,000lbs! Now that be stretchin' the truth for sure. Them chev's need special springs and an optional tranny cooler for just 8000 lbs. Tundra needs nothing special to haul 7200lbs. Good luck on these facts
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and ask yer honey if 2.5 inches MORE is a big deal..
hehehee
- Tim
(as for re-search...I don't wanna know a damn
thing....we are on a need to know basis....and I
don't need to know that!)
And now for the benefit of those that came here to discuss the Tundra vs the Big 3, let's continue with this subject. Thanks for your participation.
;-)
Pocahontas,
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The Hd's are 2" higher and don't have the nose dive effect...
I kinda like the dive effect cuz when loaded with 3500 lbs...it makes it level instead of sagging..
- Tim
as for level-headed...i am pretty level headed...'cept when folks like you be makin' bone-headed comments that just make no sense. if you'd make some sense when you post...things would be so much better.
and as for your "name-calling" accusations, wasn't it you who started the whole batman, robin, etc...deal?
bco
ps...tundradude - if you're coming to sc and hoping for 80 degree weather this weekend...don't get your hopes too high. topped out at 50 out on the golf course today.
They say a Ram one ton can't tow (article where Dodge got sued), we point out hitch, 45mph towing, 2000# limits.
Say the Silverado rusts, we show examples of Tundra's rusting.
What do you have next?? When will you guys admit the Silverado is a good truck?? I think I've heard just about all the Chevy guys say Toyota isn't bad, but you Tundra guys think your [non-permissible content removed] don't stink. Talk about blind brand loyality...
They cant haul more than 2000 lbs
They cant haul that 2000lbs quicker than 45mph
Aint never heard of no "full size" one that was restricted like that now. Them ones be more restricted than them big3 little ones! What this be tellin ya on them ones now? What say too this one? Good luck on this one now!
Justtheone, nowhere in the Tundra manual does it say you can't tow over 2000 lbs, and there's no mention of 45 mph max either, so get your act together. Bama is right, you are a liar.
I had to take my son to a friends B-day party tonight (lazer tag) - I spent 2 hours in the parking lot waiting. The parking lot was only about 1/2 full - and some guy in a 2x4 Tundra decided instead of backing out of his parking place he would just drive forward through the space in front of him -big mistake- the lot has concrete dividers between the rows - you know the thing that stops your tire when you park. Somehow this guy ended up with one front tire in front of the tire stop and one tire behind it. He was stuck. He could not go forward - could not back up. He had one rear tire smoking - Do you think this guy would have wanted a locking rear end. The pure N-bare-[non-permissible content removed]-ment he suffered was far more that the $250 I paid for the locking differential. Can you imagine being stuck in a concrete parking lot!! A few good samaritans (myself included) helped set him free.
Pros: Super strong engine and acceleration, Trouble free service, smooth and quiet ride, solid braking, 4 door convenience, size is more manageable on narrow city streets, super cupholders and console setup, affordable cd/cassette combo, reasonably comfortable seats(Dodge is better, Ford is much worse to me, can't comment on Chevy). Ride height and stance on a 2wd w/ bigger tires closely resembles a 4wd, which I find better looking than "lowrider" pickups.
Cons: Door indents don't hold door open on even slight inclines(a real shin buster), Truck needs 4 wheel ABS to avoid locking up powerful front brakes, seat needs another 2" of travel for my legs, parking brake intrudes on left leg room, springs are a little too soft, resulting in excess body roll. Stereo speakers are inferior, but are an easy $100 upgrade. Rear seat room is compromised by smaller size, but I haven't had a passenger back there yet, so I don't really care. I use it for storage only. Paint seems to chip too easily, transmission shifts to a high gear too early at low speeds. Seats could be more supportive and larger. Arm rests on bucket seats are ridiculously short.
Overall, I can't pick a better truck for my purposes, especially when you factor in stellar resale and reliability. It's nice to just put gas in and drive, and not have to worry about various defects.
Too much Maui Wowey(sp)? Ooops, a personal attack.
I'd hate to think that troublesome Silverado is finally putting you over the edge!
Bouncer? Dang, not another macho Marine who wants to beat everybody up like your 'ole bud, Zbad. LOL!!!
"Enough with the personal attacks, Kyle! How about
you stop your name calling and flaming posts, so we can talk about the trucks without being attacked by you!"
HUH???
anyways, maybe you can start us off by learning how to spell justtheone's name right...eh?
incidentally, if you consider factual posts about a truck personal...you just might be too close to it, rob.
bco
not sure if we want to ruin the exceptional dialogue in this thread by tainting it with real-life evaluations of our own trucks.
bco
Towing: In my opinion, towing is serious business
because it increases risk to the passengers and
other motorists.Power (hp and torque), wheelbase,
braking, hitch capacities, load leveling, etc are
all important elements. A deficiency in any one
area can spell disaster or at least disappointment. If I planned on towing over 2500lbs, I would definitely be concerned about using the Sequoia. Why? 1) My previous 4.7l truck felt somewhat underpowered pulling an empty 3500lb trailer over slopes. It certainly was sufficient and safe, but lacking nevertheless. 2) Both the 1997 truck I owned and the 2000 Suburban I owned said nothing about not exceeding 45mph while towing. I think this restriction may be more than simple legal jargon to limit Toyota liability -- if Toyota doesn't feel comfortable with their vehicle towing over 45mph, what does this say? I don't know with full confidence what this restriction means, but it would concern me because other similar tow vehicles don't have the same disclaimer. Plus, I can't imagine not driving over 45mph on highways and interstates -- I can hear the honks already. It seems for those who want to tow, that some clarification on the 45mph limit, and real world Sequoia towing experiences would be helpful.
Good luck on this one now!
I am surprised that Toyota recommends these above
2000 pounds. In my mind, if Toyota says the
vehicle can tow X pounds, it should be able to tow
X pounds without adding "optional equipment."
Otherwise, Toyota should state that additional
equipment is required. To the best of my
knowledge, other manufacturers will tell you
exactly that -- that something else might be needed to reach maximum towing capacity.
As for trailer brakes, sure, they are very
helpful, but they are really completely irrelevant
when it comes to listing maximum towing ability.
I, for one, would be very upset with Toyota and my
dealer if I had to return the vehicle to the
dealer, waste a day, and pay anything additional
for optional sway bars.
We were reading the owner's manual of our new
Sequoia 2wd Limited, and were surprised to read
1)Towing not recommended until after 2000 mile
break-in period
2)When towing "do not exceed 45mph."
3)sway control device necessary for towing over
2000 pounds
None of these issues were mentioned by our dealer,
who knew that we were buying the Sequoia as a tow
vehicle for appx. 5000# horse-trailer.
Anybody talked to Toyota about these issues?
And here be one who be ownin that tundra had too say too that one above:
#3 of 169: Tundra towing... (redwoody) Sun 03 Dec '00 (11:45 AM)
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual
1) 500 mile break-in before towing
2) same "do not exceed 45mph"
3) same way control device recommendation
Cant them folks who own them tundras on this here forum even read? Them ones be quick too shout "liar", cuz that truth be stingin em hardest! Facts is facts now! Good luck on this one now!
1) cant exceed 45 mph when haulin
2) require control devices for 2000 pound hauls
These are simple truths, comin from that factory on em. Why cant them folks just be admittin that truth, as stated in them ownin manuals now? Them ones with them sequoria ones be steamin mad bout these facts, yet them folks here be attackin the one who be pointin that truth out too em! Guessin we know which folks had "planned" on workin em now! Good luck on this one now!
So give the Tundra owners a break Justtheone. They did not want a real full-size truck that is why they got a Tundra.
Even so - lets's get to the facts. Libby says that the Tundra cannot tow over 45mph. What?
http://www.trailerlife.com/test/0002tundra.cfm
They were impressed with the towing ability of the
Tundra.
Quotes:
"But we especially liked the power of the Tundra's 4.7-liter V-8. Combined with the four-speed automatic transmission with overdrive, this powertrain did not disappoint. And we pushed it hard. With the 6,300-pound Tahoe behind us, kissing the Tundra's 7,100-pound tow rating, we went from sea-level to 9,000 feet through desert heat in late summer and the Tundra never so much as hiccuped."
Libby - you seem to think that by posting your lies repetitively - you lend them more credence.
#3 of 169: Tundra towing... (redwoody) Sun 03 Dec
'00 (11:45 AM)
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual
1) 500 mile break-in before towing
2) same "do not exceed 45mph"
3) same way control device recommendation
Guessin anybody with them tells that be stingin ya must be strechin that truth now? Yuppie logic: the twistin of that truth too be makin em feel better bout fad chasin. Good luck on this one now!
Good luck on this one now!
The facts are: The Tundra will tow up to its 7200 lb maximum by just adding a tow hitch. On the Chevy - you must upgrade the springs and add a transmission cooler to tow more than 5000 lbs. The Chevy loyalists are trying to evade this simple fact - the Tundra is a better 1/2 ton tow vehicle.
BTW, the dealer read out of a Tundra manual
1) 500 mile break-in before towing
2) same "do not exceed 45mph"
3) same way control device recommendation
Seek that truth on em, listen too them factory hints, get ya a big3 one if ya got the need too work em. If just fad chasin, pull the wool, and chase that shine. Good luck on this one now!
give you some facts on Ford & Chevy now. The Chevy
has a light frame that they keep having to add
braces to, so they can stiffen it up. Plus the new
Silverado has exploding rear ends. The F-150 has a
frame that is not much thicker then a toothpick and
it has a overly complex sohc V-8. Yes the Ram is
not a perfect truck some do have transmission
problems that I have heard of, but at least they
have a good frame under them.
So give the Tundra owners a break Justtheone. They
did not want a real full-size truck that is why
they got a Tundra.
Hey Justtheone just because you do not like the tundra that is no reason to put down someone else.
If you do not like the tundra then do not buy one.
It is plain a simple Justtheone the Tundra is not for you but just because your worn out old Chevy is rusting away do not put any other trucks down.
By the way Justtheone that Tundra could pull your 52 Chevy around with ease. Go buy you a new truck or do you have to keep driving the 52 Chevy because you are not smart enough to buy a new truck. Judging by your post you need to return to school & please quit lieing.
1) Tundra aint full size (truckin magazine,others)
2) No factory hitch on limited (edmunds,kbb)
3) Haul limitations (factory ownin manual)
All these truths listed above must be twisted cuz these facts be stingin them wool pullers. Keep twistin that truth yuppies, but that truth has that way of gettin out anyways. Good luck on this one now!
kinda like the water torture...drop after drop..after drop...of the same thing until they crack and go nuts!
Keep up the good work...on this one now!
- Tim
"I would tend to agree with you about the speed at
which the manufactures tell you that one should
tow. I own a SUV different from the Seq and in the
safety information states that when towing, it is
safest to not exceed 45mph.
I have been taught that the faster you tow in any
vehicle, the faster things happen..."