Infiniti QX4
Well, I'm looking to buy an SUV and I really like
the QX4. I was hoping I could get some feedback
from buyers as to how they like it (pros/cons).
What was the deciding factor in choosing the QX4
over the Pathfinder?
the QX4. I was hoping I could get some feedback
from buyers as to how they like it (pros/cons).
What was the deciding factor in choosing the QX4
over the Pathfinder?
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Well, after I created this topic, I realized that I missed the boat. There's already another topic that covers the same thing. I did drive a 2000 QX4 and it just didn't have the pickup. I realize that it's an SUV and not a Mustang GT. After driving the 2001 QX4/Pathfinder, I think I'll purchase a 2001. I have to agree about the ride and refinement of the QX4. I'll probably go with that.
Thanks again for the response.
I was amazed they are both priced about the same. I think the 4runner is overpriced so that the can take money off the stick to make you think you got a good deal. These two cars should not be priced the same.
The QX4 is a much classic and smoother vehicle. Options which seperates the QX4 from the 4runner are:
Really cool 6 cd player in the Qx4.
Rear and Frint Heated seats in the QX4 and not in the 4runner.
240hp and much better pick up.
Reclining rear seats in the Qx4.
The turning radius on the new QX4 is incredible.
Even though the manuals say the leg room is the same, the QX4 seems to feel roomier.
This is just my personal opinion, but I think hands down the QX4 is a much better vehicle.
One thing I don't like is the fact that all of the Infiniti dealers are saying that they are not negotiating the sticker price. I say someone in the previous posting said they got 1,700 off the sticker. I also say another posting that said there was 3 to 4 K, profit built into the QX4.
How can I find the true invoice price? You can't ask the sales guys? Is there a web page or something Edmunds offers?
If I have to wait until this winter or for the '01's to cool off in sales I will. Paying sticker to me sounds crazy. They're saying this because they know people are paying sticker and that they only have a few on the lot. Time is on our side. There is nothing which says we have to buy a car today. Interested in others thoughts though.
As for price? In my case, I got the VPP discount (Nissan preferred vendor discount from my company) and got around $3500 off the MSRP. Check with your company to see if they deal with Nissan from a corporate level. But even without these additional savings, I would have gotten the QX4. In my neighborhood, every other house has a RX300 parked on the driveway. Frankly speaking, I am sick of looking at that car and forget about some the funky colors they have for 2000.
Lastly, the only way you might be able get some discounts for the QX4 is if you are willing to take some of the less popular colors. The titanium, white and black are the most popular. As for buyer's strategy, try walking from the Infiniti dealer and tell them your are going to the Lexus dealer across the street.
I put a deposit on a titantium 2001 and got $3300 off the sticker. Plus, I got them to throw in a number of accessories. It comes in a couple of weeks. I guess I got lucky.
Sounds as if customer satisfaction is quite high. I can't even view one in my community since there is no dealer nearby, I just happened to rent one while on vacation in Denver.
So now I am about to get serious on a 2001 Pathfinder LE which is $7000 cheaper. The price of the QX4 appears to be similar to the Toyota Limited 4x4.
Just looking for opinions.
I have looked at both the 2000 and the 2001 and I'd have a hard time buying the 2000. The number one complaint I've heard about the 2000 is the under powered engine. The 2001 definitely has much better pickup. There is nothing more frustrating then trying to get on a freeway and not having the power to kick it into gear. especially if you're spending 30 - 40 k for a vehicle. Power should not be an issue.
I admit that I have not looked at the pathfinder, but I'm not crazy about the body style. Resale must also be considered in spending the extra cash for the QX4. My understanding is that the pathfinders are going for about 31k. If you can get 3k off the QX4 which is typically stickering at 38,525, then that puts you at 35,525 which is only 4k over the pathfinder. I definitely think the QX4 is worth the extra 4k. Consider all of the features I listed above:
Really cool 6 cd player in the Qx4.
Rear and Frint Heated seats in the QX4 and not inthe 4runner.
240hp and much better pick up.Reclining rear seats in the Qx4.
The turning radius on the new QX4 is incredible.
Even though the manuals say the leg room is the
same, the QX4 seems to feel roomier.
The other thing I think we need to keep in mind is, don't let the salesperson tell you they're not dealing. Wait until the end of the month or even winter if you can. This time of year is probably the worst time to shop if looking for a deal.
YOEDDY,
What accessories were you able to get thrown in????
OASISIOWA,
Before you buy a 2000 definitely drive the 2001.
Any info is appreciated....
I basically was equally divided between getting a 4-runner ltd and the QX4 so I had no problem walking out. I think they were having a slow week and wanted to do something. As I said, I think I got lucky.
I put down $4,500 and got a 24 month lease for $535/month. Loaded with all options (except GPS) + front bug guard and rear window deflector.
I also drove a similarly loaded PF 2001 4X4, but as far as overall refinement and the nice little upgrades (Xenon Headlights, Auto 4wd, 17 inch wheels, better looking leather) just clinched the deal for me. I was about $5k over the PF but well worth it. I should be able to keep most of this differential at resale too. The PF is a solid car. It's just that the QX4 "feels" more solid.
4x4's in Atlanta are scarce and I was fortunate to get one in my exact color, so negotiation room is not likely to develop for many months. Sticker on mine was $38,500 and I paid $37,000 (plus the gold lettering came too). Hope this helps someone on the bubble between the PF and QX4
BTW, the Motorweek review was a bit opposite than the C&D Review. MW said that the performance characteristics of the QX4 were much better than the PF. Could be the 17" wheels.
Quoting from above:
QX4 only 4k over the pathfinder.
"I definitely think the QX4 is worth the extra 4k. Consider all of the features I listed above:
Really cool 6 cd player in the Qx4.
Rear and Front Heated seats in the QX4 and not
inthe 4runner.
240hp and much better pick up.Reclining rear seats
in the Qx4.
The turning radius on the new QX4 is incredible.
Even though the manuals say the leg room is the
same, the QX4 seems to feel roomier."
This is the whole reason why the QX4's auto 4WD system is so much better than the Pathfinder's part time 4WD system.
Unfortunately, none of the dealers in the D.C. area are participating in the program at this time.
Does anyone know of an east coast/mid-atlantic dealer who will sell me a QX4 at a VPP price???
Thanks in advance.l
gary_m_cole@hotmail.com
SUV's he would not consider. He states that the Infiniti has a terrrible resale value. That it does not hold it's value as well as most other SUV's. His preference is the Lexus.
Anybody have any data on this? I like the QX4 and feel that I can get it for a few thousand less than the RX300. And it looks nicer (the RX 300 looks to much like a minivan. Don't want to get the shaft on resale though. Might as well just buy the high end Pathfinder.
I would not be too worried about QX4 resale. It does not fall under the category of terrible. However, resale can be a relative thing depending on which vehicles it is being compared to. The RX300 happens to have a better resale value than just about any vehicle on the market, so yes, it's easy to recommend it as a "value" buy. But I would expect that you have other considerations in addition to just resale. You mentioned the "minivan" look as just one example. My advice is to buy what you like the best, since you will not get "hammered" on resale with any of these vehicles.
If you really are concerned with resale as your primary purchasing factor, and want an SUV "look", then you might also consider the 4Runner,
which has the rare distinction of being a vehicle that is heavily discounted AND has excellent resale (Not too many in that category). One caveat about the RX300: It's resale is extremely high right now, but some of that is artificially created due to lack of supply. As Lexus produces more (and they will), the resale value ratios will decline. In three years the RX300 will surely still have good resale, just not quite as strong as it is now.
RX300, 4Runner, Pathfinder, QX4 ? All good choices....DB
Thanks for the advice!
I recently purchased 2001 Qx4 with premium/sports/rear spoiler for $37,000. Thanks for all the great posts on this board. My local dealers did not give any discount, so I drove to the nearby state to get this price.
I found a great dealer in my area.
-instrument panel glass
-climate control plastic
-side cargo area windows
basically looks like someone rubbed these areas with a scratchy cloth or something.
could you fellow owners check out this areas and report what you find?
Anyone else have this vibration?
Stop insulting the QX4 and be happy with you little common Pathfinder!
Contact:sgrissom@netzero.net
Thanks
Look here: http://www.edmunds.com/newtrucks/2001/nissan/pathfinder/le4wd.html
Under the "Standard Equipment" section, "aero-composite halogen headlamps" are clearly stated.