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Now getting to the regional ad fees, with network advertising, satellite radio, internet, etc. I don't see any more difference in having national Ad fees that having national destination fees. Maybe it will eventually come to that, but I'm wondering if checking the smaller town, lower overhead dealers might be a good idea. I know they don't have the same volume, but if their overhead is much lower and they get hit with minimal Ad fees, then they might be able to have a lower net sales price than the high volume, high overhead, high Ad fee dealers in the 'big city'.
Hey, I've got it now...this is some of the 'new' math they started teaching after I got out of school...dang, my 40th high school reunion is just a couple of years from now.
Selling Price: $41,000 (according to their papers, it's $671.85 below invoice...but according to my local dealer who I talked to, it's $1,047.05 below invoice...and I have a hard copy of those papers as well...have no idea why invoice is different at these two dealerships...they are about 150 miles apart)
Documentation Fee: $250 (I didn't put up a fight on this since the price was so good)
County sales tax of 6.5%: $2681.25
Title Fee: $15.00
30 day tag: $10.50
OTD price: $43,956.75 (before GM earnings)
GM Card Earnings are appx. $3400
Knocking it down to ~ $40,556 OTD
No trade was involved...found a dealership (Sellers in Farmington Hills, MI) who was selling vehicles through autotrader at just above employee pricing. I used that web site and linked it in with emails to numerous other dealerships in the area. Many dealerships thought I was lying...but it's right there on the web. One dealership came $500 above Seller's price but would deliver it to my house...so I said, "Sold!"
The reason I'm posting this cause I saw the Acadia onthe raod for the first time yesterday and kinda interested in it but after finding out the price....hell no! I rather go with the Merc unless I'm missing something here.
The reason I'm posting this cause I saw the Acadia onthe raod for the first time yesterday and kinda interested in it but after finding out the price....hell no! I rather go with the Merc unless I'm missing something here. "
I'm guessing because one has a big 3rd row and one has none at all, for starters...
I did not receive it. During 3 months I received all kinds of mails come with the purchase, such as XM radio,On-Star,Title, registration, banking documents, even a mail from GM Customer relationship Deparment asked me to fill out the survey.... My address does not lose mails and if it does, the survey could be the only lost one.
I post my question here, just because I am curious, because I personally had a very bad buying experience with the dealership and they should know I hate those liers very much (but not the car).
I called my dealer for that, got alot of stupid nonsense. They asked me if I have different address, if I put a company name on my home address.... Also emailed a GM branch, was told all surveys are mailed out on time but only one time, they do not have a customer list to confirm the sending... No help.
Frankly, I really doubt if the dealership notified MG(customer survey department)I bought the vehichle. I do not really think it is a big deal weather I received that survey but it just makes me more angry with those liers.
But I personally do not think it is a big deal to pay hundreds of dollars more if you find the right car with the right option in dealer's parking lot. The ones in parking lot for test drive ususally have no problem and good for break in. You may never find a cheaper one with the options you want, or after waiting for couple of months for you order, you get one with major problem.
Acadia is very popular now so I do not think you can get very big discount but you need to make sure to find the one fits you need and very reliable.
Highly recommand you go to MSN.com and click AUTO. By entering your year, model and options you'll get MSRP and dealer's invoice price, which is the amount the dealers pay the manufacturer for the new car. That website also teaches you a lot of bargain skills like where you should get your counter offer start. So you'll know where your dealer's offer from and why they deal with you like that. Most of the fees are not for the dealership, they are for the government, DMV etc, so by law you have to pay. Spent some time on MSN, you'll learn a lot.
Right now we're actually itching to buy an Enclave, but with the past 2 GM vehicles...about a month after purchase was when a GM Card bonus earnings thing would show up, with an extra $1 or $2k on top of what was already there. If we could only get another one of those card bonuses soon...and not go buy again, only to have it show up the next day
I was told recently "usually in December-January-February", but of course, just a good guess.
So with my Supplier discount a loaded Outlook FWD (nav, dvd player, trailer, back uo cam, leather, 7 passenger, remote start package) with an MSRP of 39,910 has a supplier price of $38301. I believe there is also $500 cash.
My GMC dealer has a comparably equipped Acadia FWD. Everything but the HUD and wheel package. MSRP $42360 Supplier price $39638.
Since GMC does not have fixed pricing like Saturn, should I offer $500 (or more or less) below invoice? Or just offer the Saturn price? I know they have a god size inventory at my SoCal dealer in town so supply is not an issue. Many of you have noted the dealers are getting above invoice on the Acadia but I have to give it a shot.
I may wind up with the Saturn since its my wife's car but I want her to see both.
Any advice is appreciated.
As noted in title, '08 SLT-1 FWD
Liquid Silver Metallic with Ebony Leather
2-2-3 seating
Preferred Pkg
Convenience Pkg
Rear power liftgate
heated wiper fluid
115V power outlet
MSRP: $35,500
Total purchase price: $33,871 ($32,793 selling price + $1,055 sales tax + $23 tags and fees).
Essentially, I was given a $500 Conquest rebate and a "preferred customer discount" of $2,707.
I believe invoice was approximately $32,300.
Wanted the dual sunroof but dealer did not have a FWD SLT-1 with both 2nd row captains chairs and the dual sunroof. Most vehicles on the lot were AWD, which I didn't want. (Didn't necessarily want the heated wiper fluid or power outlet either, but that is how it was equipped...).
Had a nice sales experience with dealer, all-in-all (J. Koons in Tyson's Corner, VA).
Please let me know if you have any reaction; good, bad or indifferent to this purchase, thanks!
This quote was from Ewing Plano, TX dealership and in response to a quote request from Edmunds.
Is this a good price? I also noticed that they applied a $500 rebate to get to the $29,706? Is this the conquest rebate and is it 500 or a 1000?
I've been following this forum and the Saturn Outlook forum as well.
The Outlook forum seems to be very, very slow. I am more interested in the Outlook because I prefer its looks over the Acadia. But, no one seems to be posting in the 'prices paid' area.
Does this mean that people don't like the Outlook? Or is just that you can get a better deal on an Acadia?
I've been reading other GMC forums and no one really has metioned any thing, except that the Outlooks aren't selling as well as the Acadia... But why? Is it just the price difference?
So, I have sent requests for quotes on the Outlook all over California, and everyone is just asking MSRP. I guess that's why people rather go with the Acadia. But, I really do like the Outlook a bit more and will try to see if they come down in price since they are not selling very well.
Last week, I just got an '08 Acadia SLT-2, with Nav, DVD, sunroof, HID, Tow Package, Pearl paint, 19' wheels minus the wheel credit... I think that's it. I need to pull the actual invoice numbers from my purchase contract (not with me now) to post here so you all can confirm the deal, but my recollection is that I paid $42,250. Invoice should have been approximately $42,011 (including destination - but not including bogus advertising fees, etc)
Got the deal by calling the local fleet managers (who these days are just the internet manager) of several dealers, and asked them what SLT-2's they had on their lots for immediate purchase.
Pretty standard procedure for me, but a number of dealers tried to tell me invoice included their advertising fees (as much as $800/vehicle) and a couple other smaller charges. Edmunds has the accurate data, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Finally got my deal (essentially $250 over Edmund's invoice) and they still gave me the $500 GM conquest discount. Pretty cool.
Good luck out there!
I would love to hear from someone who has installed aftermarket lock pick and/or bluetooth in an Acadia/Outlook/Buick-Egg
Unless Saturn has changed their policy, they always sell their vehicles at MSRP. Saturn doesn't negotiate on their new vehicles. They just hand you a pricing sheet when you walk in. They claim that's why their prices are lower (no negotiating). The only thing they negotiate is on a trade-in. Good luck, man.
My wife is covered under the GM Supplier discount program. I can get the GSM pricing for Buick and GM from their web page...for Saturn it says contact dealer for pricing details...so, I guess you get some discount but it is not published.
I don't think the Outlook has any price advantage over the Acadia with the same equipment...the base Outlook has a little less equipment standard than the Acadia so when you add that to the base Outlook, the pricing is about the same. Acadia might even be less if you can get a discount off MSRP and Saturn does not discount.
Congrats on your purchase jdsci
I am responding to your question about Bluetooth:
I am not sure if the Motorola DC800 Gateway will fit your requirements, but using this adapter, the A/C outlet and the rear aux input, I can play music via bluetooth & the Acadia's Bose system from my Samsung Sync phone. No permenant installation required - do it yourself. And it is cheap.
I spent hours trying to find a DC-powered alternative, but this was in August 2007 when I did the research, there might be something better out there today, at least I know this works. I use it almost daily except on very short trips.
You might look at this product and think that looks like it is for a home stereo only, but by using the A/C outlet included with the Acadia's rear entertainment system, it works fine. The DC800 only runs on AC power.
For me it was the coolest addition I could have made to the Acadia. I plugged in the unit and threw it in the console running the wires between the console and the driver's seat, the wires are barely visible (much cleaner than having a cable dangling from the dashboard input). Next, I paired my phone with the DC800 this was a little tricky because you have to tell your bluetooth player to start playing music via bluetooth before it will look for bluetooth headsets. It found the DC800 (I think you also have to push the button on the front of the DC800 to make it visible).
Anyway since the first pairing, my phone finds it automatically and plays the music no problem. I have combined this setup with the Rhapsody to Go music service. Since the Samsung Sync phone is compatible with the "Plays for Sure" subscription music standard, I can pick and choose from over 4,000,000 songs to transfer to and play from my phone for $14.99/month. Non of that $.99/song BS.
If your an IPOD user, you might need something like this.
IPOD Bluetooth adapter
I love to demonstrate it, standing at the rear of the Acadia, I use the rear audio controls to switch to the Rear Aux Input source, set my phone to play through the Bluetooth and crank up the volume. Most people just scratch their heads and say: "I've never seen anything like that before, but it sure does sound good".
You should know that this solution does not provide any Bluetooth telephone capability, it only acts as a Bluetooth headset (for playing music through the Acadia's stereo). When I get a call, I still have to answer and talk through the phone. But you do hear the phone ring through the Acadia's stereo.
Others should note that this solution requires that you purchased the DVD rear entertainment system with your Acadia.
Hope this helps & Good Luck
I can see why you would like that setup! It does sound like a good way to get your playlists onto the car's system.
Unfortunately for me, I am mainly looking for information about Bluetooth telephone capability.
I'm thinking about the Blueant Supertooth Light, which is portable and will work in any car independantly, but I'd love to hear that someone has an integrated system in their 2007 or later GM product.
Thanks,
-J
SLT-2 with no upgrades. They will deal if you don't take one off the lot. They can't get enough for the floor, but they will order one since they don't have to carry the cost.
Central PA