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Lincoln Navigator



  • wnet out and drove the gator and the denali yesterday....forget the in and the thing stalled 3 times during test drive..the gator however was back to dealer and by chance spoke to someone who had their new gator in for service...4 months old and back 3 times...lots of irritating noises, radio issues and phantom service lights....going on...left the dealer with a chill....dooubt i'll go back...too bad...the gator drove very well...lx/qx here i come....thanks
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,020
    Basing your $50K+ purchase decision on ONE bad vehicle you happened to encounter one day is just plain silly. I'm sure you can find a LX owner somewhere with the same problems.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Having had a series of excellent Lincolns for over a decade now, I have noted that paranoid people will always get the lemon :) Bobbie had probably better get the Lexus.

    By the way, I've had none of the maladies reported by the person in the service lane encountered.....
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    If you interview people waiting to get car service done chances are they'll be grumpy..

    While I was buying my Navi last year the sales guy got a call from a hysterical lady whose 03 gator's AC had just died.. he smiled at me after the call and said, "oh well, there's another satisfied customer!" -- he knew me well enough to know that I would not scrap a deal based on an isolated incident like that.

    Personally, I've never owned a car that did not annoy me in one form or another -- they all have some issues. For example, my brother-in-law's LX 470 has had several suspension-related issues, but overall he loves the car. IF you were to catch him while he was at the service bay though, his response as to how he liked his Lexus would have probably been quite different!

    Either case bobbio56, if you choose the LX I'm sure it will treat you well.. BUT if you really liked the Navigator you test drove though, I'd give it some serious consideration because it is a good value overall.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    Can the rear A/C blow hot air or does it just do cold? A few weeks back it got down-right nippy (40 degrees) on a trip to Disney and I could not get the rear a/c to get hot.. just the front. What am I doing wrong?

    A fella over in the GX470 board had a similar issue and he was told by the service rep that the rear a/c on that vehicle is not set up for heat. Could this be true of the Navigator also?

  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    I dont know... Personally... I would rather take the exciting vehicle, over the unexciting appliance. As long as I'm covered under warranty.. EH why not...

    Ironically, my family/friends make fun of my cars because they nickname them "Death Cariots" of how hard I must drive them... YET, never had any type of warranty repair on them except regular maintenence.

    Yet a friend of mine who drives like a little old lady has been having stupid issues with her Camry. I really think she just turns off the radio and A/C just to purposely look for noises gone wrong... I think it's a sickness...I've told her husband she's neurotic and needs Welbrutin, that's the current joke....
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,020
    is definitely hot and cold. Make sure it's not set for rear controls and the temp knob is all the way in the red for max heat. If it still doesn't work (and the vehicle is warmed up) then it's broken.
  • kourykoury Posts: 225
    I think that grumpy owner who told you about his Navi problems is really a Lexus employee:)
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    It should do both if operating properly. Strangely enough, I had the exact opposite problem with mine - would intermittantly blow hot in the summer when cooling was called for, but only if I was using the rear controls. If I used the front controls, it blew cool, and operated perfectly.

    You won't believe the remedy - the system was overcharged! How the hell that can cause that particular malfunction, I don't get. But they evacuated and refilled to specs, and the thing has worked perfectly ever since. Maybe you have to much antifreeze in the radiator? Maybe too much air in the rear tires? Who knows? Fortunately, my dealer knew what to do! But be assured, it's supposed to heat.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    minutes with the manual will "fix" my rear heat problem.. the thing is I use the heater around twice a year.. and the rear heater even less, so I haven't gotten around to solving that mystery yet!

    I just noticed though that the rear a/c controls do go from blue to red so it'd be pretty silly for them to do that and not have heat back there!

    Oh and, I'll check that antifreeze and tire pressure too just in case ;)

  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    U know about the switch from roof to floor too, right?
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I have two dials up on top in front of the sun roof.. one that transitions from red to blue and one that controls fan speed.. there's also a button in between but I'm not sure what it does.. 99% of my rear a/c use is for rapid vehicle cool down to keep babies, mother in law etc. comfortable.. and it does that quite nicely. What do you mean about a "roof to floor switch"?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,020
    It's the other button you referred to. It determines whether the air exits via the roof vents or the floor vents.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    Played around with the rear A/C unit today and figured it all out. Thanks!
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Glad we could help :)
  • I just bought a 2001 Gator fully loaded but it is missing the Navigation CD's for the factory system. I was told that they are made by Navtech. Where could I find the cd's for this? I am looking for a complete set b/c we are going to be traveling cross-country this year. Can I use the Navtech CD's that are used for BMW? Any help would be much appreciated.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Congrats! You have bought an outstanding vehicle that I think you'll be very happy with. The dealer can't help you with the CDs?
  • You can only use the Navigation CD made for the Lincoln Navigator or Ford Expedition. You can buy the complete set from but I think you have to call them. I am one of those lucky 03 owners with a CD based navigation. I actually called navtech a couple of weeks ago to inquire about a new CD update and they said it would be available in late Feb or March.
    Also look on ebay they are always selling navtech cds, but only buy the Navigator or Expedition as these are the only ones that work
  • heyjewelheyjewel Posts: 1,046
    .. for our Navigator! Can anyone recommend sites which have accessories for the Nav? I'd also like to put in some sort of cargo net or cover. Has anyone found something that works? Last, I'm pondering doing to the Nav what I did to my LS, which is open the airbox a bit, install a K&N filter and install a Magnaflo exhaust system. All to pull out a few more ponies - and I do love the rumble of a nice big American V8. Has anyone done anything like this?

  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Never seen a bra for the Navigator, hey....but there may be one out there. The plastic wind deflectors are fairly common.
  • e350v10e350v10 Posts: 92
    Have a clear bra put on. The vinyl ones look dorky and scratch the paint.
  • heyjewelheyjewel Posts: 1,046
    I always prefer see-through for these items:>)

    We wanna keep pebble nicks to a minimum. Actually, clear will be better if I get a full chrome waterfall grille or some such.

    Still wondering about sources for this stuff. Anyone have any? I'll do a net search too.
  • The clear bras are typically applied by the same guys who do window tinting. It is a protective vinyl that is put directly onto the paint.
  • We just purchased a new 2004 Navigator Ultimate with running boards and chrome wheels. Love it. Wish it had power memory tilt and telescopic wheel and auto up and down windows for all windows including rear vents. Also memory for passenger front seat. Otherwise, I think they have covered all areas. Rides and drives great. My 5'2" wife is very comfortable driving it. Merlot with gray interior and bench second seat.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,020
    Try to find one like Janet wore (or wore half of) last night. Very nice and easily removed.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    not that it mattered.......

    The clear bra protectant seems to work well. I am not sure how it ages, or what happens when you have to remove it though. Little nervous about that.
  • heyjewelheyjewel Posts: 1,046
    "Try to find one like Janet wore (or wore half of) last night. Very nice and easily removed. "

    Just what we needed, eh? Another Jackson Family BOOB in the news!
  • utl3utl3 Posts: 26
    I just ordered a 2004 Navigator in True Blue / Parchment and wanted to add the chrome exhaust tip from the monochromatic option available for the Black and French Silk.

    Has anyone seen one of these yet that can comment how how the tip looks? Is it just a round cover put over the existing tail pipe, or an actual extension of the muffler that has a different shape?

    Not sure if I can order the part, the guys at the parts counter was very confused.

  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Yes, I have one. It's just an added tip. Go to a Meineke or equivalent shop, and they can put one on for about $30. It's the easiest way. Looks nice too! Congratulations! It's a great truck.
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