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  • msadamsmsadams Member Posts: 26
    Hi Gang,

    I have to jump in on this one. If you do not know, K2QO is my amatuer radio callsign.

    My driving has been 90% city / 10% highway for my first 1100 miles. The drive to work is 11 miles each way and my avg speed is about 23.5 mph. My RDV is a CX AWD 1SB.

    The first tank got me 16mpg and the next 3 have been around 17.5 mpg. Not bad at all considering it is winter here in WNY and one cannot get good milage plowing through snow or driving on a cold engine. These values were calculated. The DIC indicates about 0.5 mpg better than my manual gallons/miles=mpg calculations.

    I think that the mileage has "stabilized" now that the engine is "broken-in". On fall highway with no wind travelling 65mph, I have seen mpg's in the 27-28mpg range. Boy, those hills and headwinds really nutz-up the mileage :-)

    Mark
  • dlh4dlh4 Member Posts: 26
    I have been getting 20.7 mpg and mine is an AWD that probably sees 50 percent highway in the San Fransisco Bay area. I have not changed the DIC reading for average mpg since the second or third fuel up in August. My RDV has over 14300 on it. It seems to match the expectations of the sticker. However, if you have a heavy foot I notice economy really goes down in this particular vehicle.
  • ccluperccluper Member Posts: 3
    We have had a 2wd CX since October and the mileage we get is highway+city is around 17 mpg. If we drive strictly highway the best we have done is 24 mpg. We love our RDV since we have a 2 year old. We put it to the test at Christmas hauling all of our stuff to Grandmas house for Christmas. We have been very please with our selection so far.

    Has anyone gotten the roof racks and installed them on a CX? I know someone said that they ran about $50 a piece and I was just wondering how easy they were to put on. We did not need the awd here in OKlahoma since we normally don't get very bad weather for very long and ours will probably hardly ever leave the road. I couldn't afford a CXL version but would like to have the roof racks.
    Any info is appreciated.
  • lang23lang23 Member Posts: 2
    My dealer sold me the crossbars for the roof rack at $65 each. They are easy to put on. You remove a piece of molding at the back of the roof and slide them forward. You have to remove two screws that are used as sunroof stops to slide them all the way to the front. They come out with a 3/16 socket wrench. The only problem I had was that I first put them on backwards! That was easily fixed though.
  • dorene1dorene1 Member Posts: 75
    Thanks so much kenym and fedlawman for your suggestions. I am used to a 30 gallon vehicle, and have not yet timed myself to fill up during the week, as I used to fill up every weekend, and now have to refill more frequently.

    This connects to the discussion on mileage - I have really 'lightened my foot', but with all my street driving, don't go above 16, often a little less. When I can go on freeways off rush-hour, it moves to 18 plus. I have reset several times, and know that this is an accurate reading. I still think this is reasonable mileage for a seven seater 4 wheel drive, and am learning to refill more frequently! Thanks again---
  • islandpeteislandpete Member Posts: 94
    Has anyone received the offer from OnStar for the free 30 minutes of calling time for 1 month? Really have not used mine since activating it back in May 2001 when I got my RDV. Has anyone tried the OS system for making calls? It is supposed to be voice activated and a hands free operation. Probably will give it a try this weekend. I'm sure the subscription cost is not cheap. Has anyone signed up for it?
  • buzzbo99buzzbo99 Member Posts: 111
    First let me say thanks to venetta for the pictures of the installed wood dash kit and testimonial. I have an oak interior and I cannot visualize the wood dash. Or I should say I cannot visualize what color would blend with my interior. Has anyone installed a wood dash kit in an oak interior. I was kind of thinking about the aluminum. Has anyone tried that.
  • pvnguyenpvnguyen Member Posts: 21
    islandpete,

    I purchased the calling plan and it's a great value. It's a flat rate to anywhere (long distance) and you buy minutes per time frame. I bought 1000 minutes for 12 months for ~$175. The voice activated phone works flawlessly and you can program preset numbers. If you run out of minutes, the system will ask you to buy more right from the car.

    The personal advisor is something you might consider. It reads e-mail, top news, and stock quotes via the OnStar system. Talk about saving time and money.

    I love my RDV more everyday...

    Peter
  • john325john325 Member Posts: 237
    Paying double the cost of cell phone usage, ie, 17 cents per minute and spending the same to get "top news" stories does not really sound like saving time & money to me. As we all know, "top news stories" are on just about every radio station for free. And I don't normally have emails that are that urgent that I need to get them while I'm driving around. Of course it's normally my wife who's driving the RDV, and her email need would be less that 1% of what my e-mail needs might be. So email retrieval is not that big of a deal for us.

    We feel good about the safety aspects of the On-Star system and have used it once to unlock our car, but these additional perks you speak of do not seem to come at a great savings. Just my opinion...
  • netnerdnetnerd Member Posts: 118
    The calling plan is a good deal for some folks. For instance: My cell phone plan is AT&T's family plan. My wife and I can call each other as much as we want for free on our Nokia phones. We get 60 minutes per month beyond that that are free within our "area." Any long distance we call is gonna be like .35/minute and I believe quite a bit more than that (.69/minute) if we're "roaming."

    I realize that if one shops around for a cell phone plan much lower per minute rates for long distance can be had, but not everyone needs those exact plans. So for some, the OnStar plan might be a good deal.
  • kenymkenym Member Posts: 405
    Hi John it is good to see you back in the Town Hall. It has been awhile. Hope everything is going Ok for you
    Ken
  • dorene1dorene1 Member Posts: 75
    We bought the full range of OnStar for $300 when we purchased our RDV, and have purchased several installments of minutes for phone use. I use the hands free phone daily, and it has exceeded all expectations for safety and usefulness - we especially like the ability to have a group conversation, my kids and I, with my husband at when he's at work and we're driving home. The microphone is excellent; passengers in the second row can be heard easily.

    We rarely use headlines anymore, but I do use the operator directional help often, usually with great success. I also had a chance to use the auto diagnostics, which are some type of information chips that connect to console lights that go on, and verify any mechanical problems - I had the engine light go on briefly, called OnStar, and they checked the signals from our car and found no problem. We recommend these services to anyone who can benefit - it's made my daily driving life much less stressful!
  • pvnguyenpvnguyen Member Posts: 21
    I can see where you are coming from. I'm simply fed up with these cell phone companies and their hidden costs. I have a $40 per month plan with 500 minutes but I usually pay about $85 per month with the hidden roaming charges, long distance, etc... If I don't use any minutes at all, I'm still charged $40 per month. The OnStar phone is a flat rate for any calls (local or long distance). As for the top news, you can get it elsewhere but I can get it when I want it instead of waiting for the news. I have and can trade stocks, get qoutes, important e-mails, etc when I need them.

    Peter
  • john325john325 Member Posts: 237
    If I had to pay add'l roaming/long distance charges on my cell phone, then I suppose 17 cents per minute may not sound that bad. As it is, I have about 950 minutes/month & I believe my wife has about 300 minutes or so, w/ no roaming or long distance, as long as we call within California.

    Usually my wife (who drives the car 98% of the time) knows where she's going, ie, school, work, kids' games, etc... so directions to her aren't really necessary. As for me, I use a map or mapquest when I'm not sure where I'm going. I'm sure it's convenient having someone tell us which way to go, but as I said, my wife, and I suspect most drivers, go to the same places most days.

    And finally, most news that's "news" is bad news... so, I don't really need that more than "on-the-hour; even that's too much. Frankly, I pull most of my news off the net anyway...

    I can see that for a small % of people, such as Dorene1, the Premium services are almost a "must-have"; for us however, the standard "safety" OnStar features are adequate.

    Ken: thanks for your greetings. I need to get over to your site again soon. The car is doing well. Thanks.

    John B.
  • rab6rab6 Member Posts: 1
    i am planning on purchasing a cx fwd rdv with the third seat option package. can you tell me some of the prices you paid and the city and state where you bought them.
  • netnerdnetnerd Member Posts: 118
    If you haven't already, check out the Rendezvous Owners Club here in the Edmunds Town Hall. We have a section specifically dealing with How Much We Paid.

    I don't have the model you're looking to buy so my cost may not be relevant, but if you want it, it's in the Owners Club.
  • dorene1dorene1 Member Posts: 75
    Hi John325 - you're right, I am part of a small percentage of drivers that are always going to new locations (at least once a week or so), due to our kids sports and practices and games, performing arts rehearsals and concert tours, playdates with new friends,community service hours etc. I also use onstar directions for highway and street traffic jams during rush hours, and have learned some nifty tricks in congested areas. I can imagine a time in the future when our life will slow down and this won't be as much of a help, 'till then, so glad it's there for us!! I also hope we continue to be a small grouping, as I'm finding it takes longer and longer to get OnStar to answer. I hope they don't oversubscribe this service...
  • meanolddadmeanolddad Member Posts: 7
    Seems like he is always calling ONSTAR to get help in the commercials!

    Bruce
  • islandpeteislandpete Member Posts: 94
    Always nice receiving different opinions. It makes it much easier to make decisions when the time comes to make one. Finally got to try out the introductory offer I spoke of earlier re: onstar phone service option. It was an experience I will share and wish someone had clued me in on:-)For those of you that are using it for the first time, just speak in a normal voice. In other words do not shout or speak loudly. It seems the commands for the Voice Recognition are better understood. Apparently I was speaking too loud and my commands were mis-understood. For instance a 9 was interpreted as a five or if not understood a voice would say "Pardon me". I was ready to write it off as a bad experience until my wife tried it.Naturally she had a lower more pleasant tone to her voice and the call went through. She called a friend of ours and he said he was able to understand her very clearly, but my voice was horribly distorted. When I toned it down he said it was very much better. So thats the story. Hope this helps any of you that may have the same problems. Tone it down :-)Still evaluating if I will sign up for it. BTW, just got back from a trip to Atlantic City and the computer clocked me at 23.2 MPG. An Opal Blue RDV shot past me on the Garden State and blew his horn.I returned the greeting and he was out of site. Must have been doing 80. This baby really moves when you want it to :-)
  • nextmoonnextmoon Member Posts: 386
    I'm a new owner of a CX FWD Pewter Rendezvous with the ISC and premium speaker packages. I'm still reading through the thich owners manual.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    You did it! Is that the one you previously mentioned that the dealer would cut you a deal on because he got you the wrong one?
  • nextmoonnextmoon Member Posts: 386
    Thanks guy.
    I got this RDV from the second salesman. I didn't think he would come through with the deal but he did. I got it for $500 under invoice + 1% advertising fee (minus another $2K for GM rebate). He did a swap with another dealership out in NJ (I'm in NYC). Turns out he was a new dealer and I was his first customer so he went out of his way to get it for me. But it took a bit longer to get the paper work done as he was new. I got the stereo upgrade free of charge because it was additional equipment I didn't ask for. I drove it for about a dozen miles so far and learning all the features.
  • cwjacobsencwjacobsen Member Posts: 293
    Congrats on your great deal!

    Next (pun intended) to Dindak, I think you've gone back and forth more on the Rendezvous than anyone else. But you've asked some of the more intelligent questions of any of the prospective buyers and I sincerely hope you enjoy your own personal Gamera.

    Speaking of whom, he's past 10K on the odo now and for those tracking MPG, he gives me about 18mpg in the city and 24mpg on the highway at 62mph. As others have mentioned this drops off rapidly as speed increases. I drove him 700miles round trip up into michigan recently and running him at 75mph had him down around 19-20mpg. You can't ignore the simple fact that you're pushing a high profile vehicle through the air when you get the speed up.

    CWJ
  • lukjacklukjack Member Posts: 21
    Congrats on getting your RDV and getting a great deal. I have had mine for a week and a half and still am working through the manual and maintenance intervals. I love this vehicle more each time I drive it.

    Question for anyone. Does the key fobs store driver information 1 or 2. I noticed you can program settings for 2 different drivers, but does that sync up to a specific key fob, since they gave you two??
  • ottawa_seanottawa_sean Member Posts: 7
    Hello,

    Just wondering if any of you RDV owners could share how long it took to get your RDV from the factory. I have been waiting for more than a month now and wondering if the demand is pushing up the delivery times?

    -Sean
  • cwjacobsencwjacobsen Member Posts: 293
    Yes. Each of the two keyfobs correspond to either driver "1" or "2." When you insert the key and start up your Rendezvous, look at the DIC. Either "driver 1" or "driver 2" should be showing at some point during the start up process. This shows which key fob is currently being used.

    CWJ
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    I've still got 3 months of going back and forth. I am hoping GM will lower the lease rate on the Rendezvous. Since it's selling so well, I'm doubting that will happen though.

    At this point it's 2WD RDV, VUE, Tribute and Escape in the running if we go truck. My wife still thinks we only need another car for the next lease though.
  • gmdronegmdrone Member Posts: 78
    Methinks that if you look at the back of the transmitter, you will see a "1" or a "2" molded into the plastic case, at least that is how we tell around here...

    MAK
  • nextmoonnextmoon Member Posts: 386
    Thanks everyone for the good wishes. She's a pleasure to drive on the bad streets around here.
    I'm in the process of thinking up a name for her.

    To answer the key fob question:

    Each key has it's own ID - either Driver 1 or 2. When you press the Unlock button from the fob, that tells your RDV which key you are using and it returns to that driver setting.

    However, if you use your key to unlock the door, your RDV will use the settings of the previous driver (could be 1 or 2 depending on who used it last).

    After you have put your key into the ignition, he can switch between either Driver 1 or 2 settings by pressing the Lock button on your FOB (free to change either settings).

    This is all in the very very thick owners manual.

    I can't identify which FOB is for which driver looking at both the front and back of mines. Maybe a little sticker or something would help.
  • nextmoonnextmoon Member Posts: 386
    Looking around my engine bay today, I noticed that there is a bit of rust the tips of each engine mount (two metals arms that connect the engine to the front of the frame?) next to the rubber bushings. Has anyone noticed this in theirs? Is this something that needs fixing?
  • dlh4dlh4 Member Posts: 26
    To Ottawa Sean, This summer we waited 6 weeks from ordering to delivery. With the demand as it is now, you may have a slightly longer wait but I'm only guessing. Now I live in the States, which also may play into the equation as my car only crossed one border, yours crosses two. By the way congrats to you and all Canadians for the Hockey Gold Medals.
  • ottawa_seanottawa_sean Member Posts: 7
    Thanks for the reply,

    I spoke to my dealer today and my RDV is still not asembled at the plant after 5 weeks. I am guessing the wait will be 8 to 12 weeks. My Sunfire just doesn't seem to cut it after I test drove the Rendezvous!
  • lukjacklukjack Member Posts: 21
    I did try the key fob. It works, either fob can be programed to driver 1 or 2. I now have them programmed how I want them.

    Nextmoon- I did not see any rust on the engine mounts. Next trip into dealer for service I would mention it to them. I would not think it is a big deal though...
  • usmcmomusmcmom Member Posts: 6
    When we purchased our RDV we thought it would be a good idea to go ahead and get two extra keys (not the key fobs....just the keys) in addition to the two that came with the car. We keep our cars for quite a few years and thought there might be a time when we would need them.

    The salesman told us they were $17 each and we went ahead and placed our order for two and when we went to pick them up, found out that they were $35 apiece! We didn't want to make an issue with the price since the salesman was only quoting a price that he apparently had been given wrong information on.

    We also found out that if we ever want to replace the key fob, it would cost around $90. Just thought I would pass this along....don't lose your keys! And if you do lose them, make sure your key fob isn't attached to it! lol By the way, we love our opal blue RDV!
  • netnerdnetnerd Member Posts: 118
    I just finished reading all 2,237 posts in this section of the owner's club. Add to that 350 posts in the official Owner's Club areas and I have read a total of 2,588 Rendezvous posts!

    I was so happy to find this owner's club a couple weeks ago. I feel like I know some of you personally now. ;-)

    Through reading the messages I have already solved some issues and learned a lot! I'm really happy to have you all to share info. with.

    Well now I don't have any excuse for not working...so back to work.

    Douglas
  • cwjacobsencwjacobsen Member Posts: 293
    Great to hear you read them all, and still think we're an OK bunch. Perhaps you can remind me of what I said from time to time. Insert cute smiley wink face here.

    CWJ
  • netnerdnetnerd Member Posts: 118
    ....I'm a member of the Oak tribe. (I'm an Oak 1 (key fob 1) to be exact).
  • bill746bill746 Member Posts: 1
    I'm considering buying a new RDV and have a couple of concerns. First, it seems the visibility from driver's seat toward the right rear side is poor. There is just not much glass to see out of with the large roof supports. Is this a problem? Second, how does the car drive when fully loaded? Does it have enough power to make it up hills ok? My wife likes the Acura MDV, but I think the RDV offers better value.
    Thanks
  • nosuvyetnosuvyet Member Posts: 72
    The direct visibility that is lacking is more than made up for by the humungous side mirrors. If you are accustomed to using your mirrors alot, you will be fine. If you are one of those people who is more comfortable turning their neck to see everything beyond blind spots directly, then visibility can be an issue. (and get some driving lessons :-)

    We came down to MDX vs RDV as well and RDV won. FWIW
  • netnerdnetnerd Member Posts: 118
    I've never had problems with visibility to the rear when driving. I agree that the big mirrors are EXCELLENT! As for rear visibility when parking remember that you can get the RDV with rear parking assist which will beep to alert you of objects in your rearward path.

    I've never had my RDV loaded and gone up hills, but from what I've read here the power will be adequate. It may not have extra power to burn, but you won't be prevented from going up hills, etc.
  • nextmoonnextmoon Member Posts: 386
    The HUGE mirrors gives a great view of both sides of the RDV. I've hadn't had trouble knowing who's besides me in the next lane. Though I do need to pay attention to the lower cars now because they could be below the door sill, which is true for most tall SUVs (but they lack the big mirrors). If you park the RDV enough, you'll develope a sense of it's size.

    As for power, my RDV got up very quickly to 30+ mph on local streets. There's a short pause inbetween 30+ to 40, and then it takes off up to 60+ mph without much effort. This is with five full adults on board + 3rd row of seat with only 100 miles on the Odometer.
  • lukjacklukjack Member Posts: 21
    I purchased an RDV two weeks ago. It is an excellent ride and a great value for all the luxury you get with it. I think it has plenty of power, and is geared nice in the low range to get a quick start. I would recommend test driving and hitting some acceleration, hills, and interstate. I think you will find it has enough.

    Since you pay only slighty over invoice, you will save $7000 plus over Acura since they are chargin list or more....
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    There is no better value in this class than the Rendezvous, no question about it.
  • nextmoonnextmoon Member Posts: 386
    To the owners, is it alright to wax the lower body cladding on the RDV? Will it cause any harm or discoloration? I'm using a regular clearcoat wax that I used for my other car. I live close to the ocean and the wind and rain has left my new girl all dirty after only 1 week.
  • pvnguyenpvnguyen Member Posts: 21
    Before I purchased the Rendezvous, I was very surprised the difference of quality, look of material, and fit/finish of the other Buicks compared to the Rendezvous. Is this truly a Buick? The only difference I came up after owning one for 3 weeks now is that is was assembled in Mexico. Any comments?

    Peter
  • netnerdnetnerd Member Posts: 118
    I assume you mean that you think the Rendezvous is inferior to the other Buick's you've seen (although from your message it could be that you find it far superior). Can you clarify for us which you mean?
  • pvnguyenpvnguyen Member Posts: 21
    netnerd,

    I mean to say that it's far, far superior to the other Buicks. For an example, the Regal's interior plastic looks very cheap and the fit/finish has large gaps. All of the other Buicks look very outdated (inside/outside) compared to the RDX. I can see why people are not looking at the RDX yet. Every family member of mine who saw my RDX thought it was an expensive european/japanese car. As a matter of fact, my brother-in-law bought himself a Black RDX yesterday.
  • kenymkenym Member Posts: 405
    pvnguyen if you go back in this section you will find some lengthy discussions on this very topic. In my opinion in today's standards it is a very fine luxury vehicle that happens to be assembled in Mexico. Does it have the same standards as Buick of old? I guess that depends on who you ask or how you ask.

    The RDV is less likely to rust out. The RDV runs and handles as well as any Buick, maybe better than the old "boats" ( more like a sports car ). Better fuel economy and in my opinion looks better. My vote is YES it is as good a Buick as any Buick made. But what does an old Polack from Parma know.
    Ken
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    As much as I hate high paying auto jobs leaving Canada/US and going to Mexico, I have to say the plant that makes Rendezvous and Aztek is a very high quality assembly plant. No qualms about the fit and finish on a RDV. That all said, F&F has as much to do with GM engineering getting better as it does with the plant itself. GM is just getting better all the time and newer models reflect that.
  • greenlaterngreenlatern Member Posts: 77
    This article in USA today warns about the dangers of putting passengers in the third row...


    http://www.usatoday.com/money/covers/2002-03-01-car-seat-safety.htm

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