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  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    Pitdaddy - My children are four-legged and wear leashes, so I can't help you with car seats.
    Your MPG is low, but not so low that I'd expect a problem. If it stays consistently low or gets any worse, I'd take it in and see if something has gotten fouled (exhaust, plugs, etc...).
    Owners tend to average between 22 and 25, but there are some that get less and other who get more. For example, I've been getting 26-29 mpg when driving long trips on the highway. Not everyone can be so lucky.
    The 5 speeds (like mine) tend to do slightly better than the automatics. Also, cars in warmer climates tend to do better than those in the cold. Mine drops about 2 mpg during the cold Winter months.
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    OrigenX - I'm told that the liquids can be used on cars that are hot from sitting in the sun, while this is not recommended for pastes. I dunno if this is true or not. I'm not familiar with the source who posted it.
  • beatfarmerbeatfarmer Member Posts: 244
    Take your pick. The CR-V is blessed with a mostly flat rear seat that makes fitting a cars seat a breeze. We started off with a rear facing Graco (sp)infant seat/carrier with the base that stays in the car, moved on to a standard seat facing rear, and now are ready to turn her around. All this while my 4 year old sat on one side of the center position in her booster seat and my wife sat on the other side. Sorry, no LATCH for now.

    Mileage, like fine wine, improves with age. Mine averages 24-25 with a 60/40 mix of highway/city driving. Pure highway is 27+.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Oops, sorry. I'll bet the 2002s get it.

    I did at least see tether anchors in the hatch area for all 3 seat positions at the Philly Auto Show. Make sure the child seat comes with a tether kit. It looks like a seat belt sticking out the back, with a hook at the end of it.

    -juice
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    The third tether position became standard in either '00 or '01. Earlier models have tether points, but there are only two (one for each outboard location). Most owners of the older versions simply use both tether points for a single seat in center position.

    The most realistic rumors regarding the '02 CR-V have come from the reps at Honda. We were told by one that the CR-V will receive the same equipment as the new Civic. Side airbags were one of the things that were noted. Dunno if the Civic has a latch system or not.
  • davidthompsondavidthompson Member Posts: 36
    Thanks, varmit, for pointing out that that image is a fake - but in my defense, there are other gullible folks out there: it was our local Honda dealer who had pointed me to that photo in the first place!

    I guess they are going to be surprised when they get their first delivery.

    Same question still stands, though - does anyone have a rollout date and color selection for the 2002's?

    David
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    No need for a defense. There are a number of good looking fake pics out there. Some are done by very talented artists.

    VTEC.net had a link which discussed some of the new colors in Honda's '02 lineup. I think that post references the Ody, but a few other cars are listed.

    The only rollout date I've heard was from a Zone 6 Honda Rep who attended the Mid Atlantic CR-V meet. He said that it is planned for September 15th. Of course, this could be changed at any time.

    I enjoy speculating about the '02 CR-V as much as anyone (possibly more), but the truth is we won't know anything until Honda lets it go to press. We can read rumors, look for spy pics, and make educated guesses all day long. But everything that we find might just be based on a fake model that Honda was driving around to throw people off.
  • fitch1320fitch1320 Member Posts: 1
    I'm thinking of buying a cr-v. In test driving I noticed road noise on the freeway. That it was not as quiet as I thought it should be. Are they this way? Would stepping up to the SE help? And any help on how to get the best price. Thanks , Christine
  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    "Pitdaddy - My children are four-legged and wear leashes, so I can't help you with car seats."


    varmit, don't be so sure...


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  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    The current generation CR-V IS noisy, especially at highway speed. The SE will NOT be any quieter since it does not have any more sound insulation than the regular models. If you apply the tar-like undercoating, road noise may be reduced, but only marginally. To me, it's not worth the money and the mess. If you can wait, you should perhaps wait for the 2002 model. Based on past experience with Honda, new generation usually offers improvements in all aspects (including noise) from the previous generation.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    The current generation CR-V IS noisy, especially at highway speed. The SE will NOT be any quieter since it does not have any more sound insulation than the regular models. If you apply the tar-like undercoating, road noise may be reduced, but only marginally. To me, it's not worth the money and the mess. If you can wait, you should perhaps wait for the 2002 model. Based on past experience with Honda, new generation usually offers improvements in all aspects (including noise) from the previous generation.
  • scottdudescottdude Member Posts: 177
    If it's true that the new CRV is coming out in mid-September then I think the folks at Honda have missed their calling... they should work for the government! I'd trust these people with national security secrets any day! Here it is July and still no spy photos or confirmed information.

    I wonder if Honda has such a back-log of the 2001 CRV that they have purposely clamped down on 2002 CRV information so that they can dispose of the current stock before the new one debuts?

    This also makes me wonder if there are some major changes with the new CRV. If the changes were only slight people would probably still gladly buy a 2001. But if they're major changes, I'll bet a lot of people would wait two more months.
  • chas215chas215 Member Posts: 22
    I agree with scottdude. What's with all the mystery about 2002? Probably something big and worth waiting for but still getting anxious about the waiting game. It will be a long two months or so. As soon as anyone hears anything reliable for 2002, please share it.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    They always keep a wrap on things until the very last minute. It is also their policy that changes to any given model are more evolutionary rather than revolutionary. Notable exceptions being the 2000 Odyssey and 2001 CL
  • davidthompsondavidthompson Member Posts: 36
    I must say, I find all this secrecy quite irritating - and quite possibly Honda is hurting their sales of 2001 models rather than helping them. Not knowing if there are going to be interesting changes in the 2002 models, we will probably wait for the 2002's, while it may turn out that we would have been as happy or happier with the 2001.

    That happened to us nearly a decade ago with the Accord - we loved the '88 generation cars and the '92 generation, but no so much the '95 (I don't remember exactly when years changed). Well, had we know what that third generation was going to look like, we probably would have rushed out to buy on of the last second-generation cars...

    Worse still is the current situation with the Odyssey, where the MSPR is a big question mark as well, and yet, given the supply problems, one has to put down a deposit to hold a car "at MSRP" without knowing what MSRP will turn out to be!

    David
  • tomf11tomf11 Member Posts: 40
    I installed a Hidden Hitch to my 01 CRV. Three bolts,one to a tie down hook in the center below the rear bumper,and one on each frame rail ( if you can call them frame ). There is no frame under these vehicles. If you tow more than 1K with this vehicle,you are putting your life and family members life in harms way. Don't let anyine tell you differently. Tom F.
  • beatfarmerbeatfarmer Member Posts: 244
    That would be why Honda rates it for a maxium of 1K in the US. Honestly, Honda has different tow rates listed for different countries. Check out some other Honda web sites and see the variation. That said, if you bought the 'V as a tow vehicle, you will be dissapointed.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    varmit: will the new CR-V come out in Japan first, or will it be simultaneous with the US launch?

    Subaru does product launches in Japan first, so we always get a preview of their new models.

    Given Honda's emphasis on secrecy, there may be bigger changes than most people expect. If it were only evolutionary, they wouldn't be afraid to lose sales of the 2001s.

    -juice
  • tatu1tatu1 Member Posts: 50
    If the September 15th date is accurate, but who's counting ?
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Japan is going to get CR-V in October. U.S.A will get it in September.
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    David - I wouldn't treat the amount of secrecy surrounding the '02 CR-V as an indicator of any sort. Honda is secretive because A) it helps sell the current model, and B) they're good at it.

    It's true that people like you and I are busy surfing the Internet looking for clues about the '02 CR-V and we might change our minds about the current model if we knew more about the '02. But we are not normal. I'd guess that as many as 75% of the people who bought a CR-V this month have no idea that a new one is coming around the corner.

    Many other auto manufacturers release information early because they can't keep it hidden. For whatever reasons, Honda has set the standard for keeping things secret. If Ford could do the same, they probably would. So instead of having spies release their secrets, companies like Ford will go to press voluntarilly. This way they can get the credit for the news, and they can put their own spin on the changes. IOW, they make the best of a poor hand.

    This last bit begs the questions, "how do companies like Ford get away with it?" Huge companies like Ford, Toyota, GM, DC, and such can afford to have old models sitting unsold on their lots. In comparison, Honda is a tiny car company. They don't have the money or the clout that the larger companies have. Each unsold car on the lot represents a significant problem for the car dealership. You and I could care less about the dealer's problems, but Honda can't do that. Do not forget that Honda makes money selling to dealerships. You and I do not buy cars from Honda.

    As for big changes... Why would Honda mess with a design that was the class leader for so many years? While the media may put others like the Escape or new Rav4 at the top of their lists, Honda is still selling CR-Vs without a problem. If it weren't for the fact that Civic platform was just redesigned, Honda might've gotten away with waiting until 2003 for a new CR-V. (I'm not saying I would've bought one, but I'm sure it could have remained profitable.)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's true. Though Honda is huge in the US, it's only the 10th biggest make in the world last time I checked.

    Subaru had trouble hiding the new WRX, but that's in part because the previous one, STi models in particular, had a fanatic cult following that did everything they could to get a sneak peak. So the cat came out of the bag early.

    Ford stinks at it because the guy who runs BlueOvalNews.com has tons of friends on the inside. You can just about get a 5 year plan from his site, it's amazing.

    The 2003 Forester is still a no-show. We'll see.

    -juice
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    Juice - Since the CR-V is supposed to be shipped to the US from both the UK and Japan plants, I would've guessed that the release dates would be similar if not the same.

    Sasquatch - Thanks for the links, but none of those are "seats", per se. I can't use the seat belt type restraints with my greyhounds because they don't sit. It's not physically impossible for a greyhound to sit, but they aren't built for it. When necessary, I've used a harness on each dog and fixed them to the tie downs in the cargo area. The best solution is to crate them, but alas the CR-V does not have the 90 cu.ft. cargo area necessary for two greyhound crates. :-)

    Tomf11 - Beatfarmer says it all.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    varmit: get smaller dogs! :-) Our 12 pounder fits anywhere.

    -juice
  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    One of those links has a truck bed harness.

    You clip your dog(s) to the middle of it. I would imagine you can rig that up somehow.

    The other thing which occured to me is if you can find a coupler which is 2 female seat belt ends, and then clip them together and then clip the dog harnesses to that.

    ...OR get a climbing carabiner, put it through the hole in the 2 rear seat belts so they are now attached, and then clip the dog harnesses to THAT.

    I plan on doing something similar between roll bars for the Wrangler. I want to leave enough room so the dog can lie down, stick head out either side, but not jump out into traffic or hang herself. I will probably put a ring in the middle, and attach to that.
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    Juice - I hope that 12 pounder isn't white. Swagger might mistake it for the bunny. :-)

    You reminded me of another exception in pre-releasing information. Boutique-sized or niche manufacturers may release information early as they typically have a brand-dedicated following and have little to lose. Sometimes, but not often, this can apply to a single car (Nissan's upcoming Z for example).

    Sasquatch - You're right. For me, self made rigging is the only way to go. I have a harness for each beast and clip one to a tie-down in the back of the cargo space The other dog gets hooked to the one at the front of the cargo area on the opposite side. I use a "leash" that is about 12-16" long. It's long enough that they can stand up and spin around (3 times) to make themselves comfortable, but not so long that they can get tangled up with one another.
  • gwapogwapo Member Posts: 20
    with my 2001 CRV

    what me worry?

    all new stuffs are buggy anyways
  • sacker33sacker33 Member Posts: 1
    I am considering buying a 2001 CR EX and having a moon roof installed after purchase. I've heard mixed reviews about doing this... some say it compromises the sturdiness of the frame which could be dangerous in a collision, while others say it has no adverse impacts. I tried contacting Honda for feedback, but no response.

    Has anyone had a moon roof installed or heard risks associated with doing so?

    P.. If I knew the 2002 would be offered I/ a moon roof I'd wait... but no such luck.
  • mark461mark461 Member Posts: 2
    I can get a 2001 cr-v for $50 below invoice. The cr-v just came in a week early & the dealer has to have an answer tonight if I want it or if Im going to wait for a 2002. There will be no discount on the new models & the financing will be higher. WHAT SHOULD I DO? I didnt call the dealer with an answer & I know I have to let him know tommorrow for sure. Help
  • shaq2kobeshaq2kobe Member Posts: 42
    if the '02's are a knockout they'll be practically giving the '01 away. Your only problem may be finding the color of choice in the model you want, but other than that September is right around the corner.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    sacker33: I've had aftermarket moonroofs installed in two of the vehicles I've owned. Both were ASC and both were installed by an ASC approved shop, Adler & Mandell. No leaks or other problems. Two friends of mine also got roofs installed, and again no problems.

    They do not use model numbers, but mine is a 15"x30" ASC tinted glass roof, manual pop-up style. It's $300 installed, more if they have to cut away any roof rails (which CR-Vs do not have) or if you want a deflector with yours.

    They did power roofs for $900 and up.

    The market is mature and so most problems have been worked out. They add bracing around the roof itself to compensate for any structural loss. Mine does not squeek or rattle, and I've been happy with the purchase.

    -juice
  • tomf11tomf11 Member Posts: 40
    It does not make any difference if your towing 1K of pop up trailer or 1k of cotton, in the USA or UK, the car should not be overloaded. I seen on another site where a person was towing a pleasure boat. This thing had to weigh 2800 lbs. crazy.It appeared to weigh more than the CRV.It was clearly longer than the CRV.I have a little utility trailer ( fold up ) I use to go to the lumber yard,for long objects,thats the only reason I put a hitch on.
  • elight50elight50 Member Posts: 26
    I read this board and a few of the other SUB related discussions. What I've noticed is that while most of the CR chat is about towing, after market leather, etc. the other forums are discussing stalling, poor MPG, broken this and that. Other than a few comments about the angle of the wiper and the color of the gauges, CR owners seem to have little to complain about.

    I'm sure there have been a few "serious" problems with the CR that have been corrected over its current run. I was curious if anyone had a list of these issues and how they were resolved.

    Thanks.
  • beatfarmerbeatfarmer Member Posts: 244
    Hauling that much is crazy. This past weekend I saw some guy towing a 40+ ft Cigarette type boat with a late 90's Yukon. Even if the boat was within the tow rating for the truck I'd still balk at towing something that is more than twice as long as the vehicle (tractor trailers do not apply, since they are designed to do just that).

    What utility trailer do you have? I was thinking about getting one myself.
  • beatfarmerbeatfarmer Member Posts: 244
    As far as I can recall, there have been a few problems that have affected multiple owners.

    Some have experienced a wobble/shudder in the drive train. Others have experienced pulling to the right.
    Others still would hear a clunking from the front suspension.

    When mine was new (99EX Auto) I had the first problem, but it went away after 5000 miles. It would occure in second gear while accellerating, but only if I didn't come to a stop first. I never experienced the pulling, which appeared to be a problem with bad alignments.

    These are about as serious as I can recall. I read of one person who had their transmission replaced (under warranty) and another who had their rear diff replaced.

    There was a recall a few years back for a wiring harness that needed to be rerouted to prevent wear (for some 98-99 models).

    Varmit, can you fill in the gaps?
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    Elight50 - There are a few known issues that have cropped up with the CR-V. Every vehcile has some. Here are some of the ones I've read about:

    PTTR (Pull To The Right) - Some CR-Vs have a problem where they pull (not drift) to the right. With some it has been worse than others. A number of owners have solved this by getting their alignment set straight. A few have tried this, but the alighnment hasn't worked.

    Whine/screech from the rear - This one is a service issue. If you don't change the dual pump fluid used in the rear dif (RT4WD only) it can wear out. It's much like changing the oil in your engine. Failure to do this results in a whine or groan-like sound from the rear of the car when taking sharp turns (parallel parking, 3 point turns, etc..)

    Shudder/vibration at 2500 rpms - This one isn't very common, but it's been reported a few times. Owners have found a vibration from the drivetrain. It happens at about 2,500 rpms when accelerating hard. Well... trying to accelerate hard anyway. :-)
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    Beatfarmer - You beat me to the post. I've got to type faster. :-)

    I forgot about the clunking suspension. There's a TSB out for that one. I don't think it's been a problem for newer models, but it may crop up in a used car.

    There was also a recent concern over some poorly manufactured bolts. A recall was put into effect for Civics, CR-Vs, and other Civic-based vehicles in Japan. They were still looking into whether or not any were shipped to North America last time I read anything about it.
  • beatfarmerbeatfarmer Member Posts: 244
    Thats a mighty fine picture of you from the meet. Still wish I could have made it.
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    You missed my acceptance speech when I won the cargo mat. :-)

    We're in the beginning stages of planning a meet in Cooperstown, NY. Most likely it'll be in September, but we haven't nailed down a date (as far as I know). Perhaps we'll have a birthday party for the '02 CR-V. ;-) We already have an OEM skidplate donated as a door prize. I'm sure more will follow. It'd be great if you could make that one.
  • elight50elight50 Member Posts: 26
    Thanks guys. The brevity of the list is a commentary on the quality of the vehicle. Six Hondas have passed through my family over the years (my kids are driving two, I have two, and the other 2 are probably rolling the 200k mark somewhere in Virginia or Maryland). I'm eager for the 2002 CRV. I don't know why actually, other than everyone on this board seems to be having fun with theirs.

    Elight50
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    image

    Here's another artist's rendering of the '02 CR-V. It looks an awful lot like the one we saw earlier in that Japanese magazine. Sorry, I can't post them side by side. The other was linked through Photopoint and is no longer available.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Whoever painted that is very good. He or she only forgot to change the current-style alloys. And if you look even closer, the head-rests are exactly the same as the ones on the current model.

    But the headlights are nicely done.
  • lky1lky1 Member Posts: 1
    I'm looking to buy a new CRV-EX Automatic OR CRV-SE in the next week or so. Could anybody give me an idea of what the rock bottom prices would be for these two models alongwith any dealers phone #.

    The local dealer here was not willing to sell for less than $20,300 for CRV-EX Automatic.
  • elight50elight50 Member Posts: 26
    Went to the link but couldn't get it to resolve. I hate that. But I did read the assessment of the 2002 CRV that mentioned the rear door being converted to a hatch. This suggests that the tire will be moved inside. That may lead to a better rear bumper.
  • irvsteroniirvsteroni Member Posts: 56
    Hmmm...I'm not sure if I like the new style (if it looks anything like the rendering). It looks like the tailights go all the way down to the rear bumper. I'll save my $$$ for another year and get an Acura MDX unless the 2002 CRV has a V6.
  • toddmichtoddmich Member Posts: 8
    I have had my CRV since June 1997 with very little problems. Here is was I have experienced.

    1) Squeak while making sharp turns...I just had my rear diff fluid replaced and this took care of the squeak.

    2) Occasionally my drivers seat will release backwards(with some pressure). I just had it into the dealer to have this look at and they could not find anything. I looked at the NTSB site and it looked like there were a few complaints about this but only for the 1997. Has anyone else experience this? This is really my biggest concern since the seat hit my sons legs last time this happened.

    3) Just in the last month, my drivers' window has been giving me problems. Have not had this into the dealer yet...again, has anyone had problems with this?

    Really, that is all the problems I have had which I don't think is too bad with over 50,000 miles. You can't say thay about many cars! I can't wait to see what the 2002 looks like...I am looking at replacing my in a couple of years.
  • pamopamo Member Posts: 39
    Purchsed a 2001 EX CR-V, auto, in January of this year, for $19,600. Feel that was a great deal. We love the vehicle. Yesterday my 16 year old daughter, who is the primary driver, narrowly avoided a major accident by slamming on her brakes and sharply turning to avoid someone who ran a stop sign. Although she must have reacted well, the CR-V's brakes and handling had to have helped her in that situation. If I could buy her a tank I would, but for now the CR-V seem to be taking care of her.
  • rbogeyrbogey Member Posts: 9
    My 2001 CRV- has had a lockup or jam of the ignition several times since I got it. I only have 1500 miles on it and I'm sure it has happened to me at least 5 times. Only once I was parked on a slope ; all the other times I was parked on flat ground. I pull the key out or pull the wheel to the side and after several attempts, it does free up. I remember reading about this here in the past and wondered "What's Up With That?" It is my only complaint so far.Help......Bogey
  • hondax2hondax2 Member Posts: 9
    For Iky1 and any others looking to purchase about now. We bought our new gold 2001 SE from Rohrman in Lafayette, IN this week for $21,400+TT. My sister-in-law bought a green SE for the same price, same dealership. Several different dealerships in the Indy/Northern Indiana region offered to match the price, but Rohrman gave us much more on our trade--yes, we were too lazy to sell it ourselves...
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