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  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    I made my own mirror out of an old rusty one I found in my shed. I will paint it black, and it should look and work fine.

    In fact, who cares? I am only doing it to satisfy the letter of the law, and if both sides were painted black, I wouldn't really care. I might just do the driver's side.

    Happy 4th of July everyone!

    Don't forget to

    Mourn on the Fourth of July: 2002

  • "Happy 4th of July everyone!

    Don't forget to

    Mourn on the Fourth of July: 2002"

    I believe that the reason you posted this is one of the following.

    1) You are a troll looking to stir up controversy.

    2) You are a communist moron and don't appreciate the country you live in. If it's that bad, leave. Then you wouldn't have to worry about your mirrors, either. I hear that in Iraq you can drive a Jeep with no mirrors at all. Wouldn't that be great??

    3) You are the pathetic hack that hosts that useless web site. Wow- for $2 I can learn how to win at roulette?


    If it is 1, you win. If it's 2 or 3, please don't post here anymore.

    Everyone else:

    Have a happy (and safe) 4th of July. I will be flying the flag off my Jeep for the rest of the week, topless, doorless, and with the AC on extra high for anonymous.

    Sorry for the rant...

  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    I think you got it all wrong. Did you even read the article? It is quite a bit about liberty and freedom, two of the cornerstone principles of this country.

    Really, lighten up!

    1) no
    2) no
    3) no, wrong again!

    Enjoy the Fourth in your Jeep, everyone. I know I will. (no AC).
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    That last message got me to thinking. Maybe I will fly my flag upside down from my Jeep tomorrow as described in this article:

    ' "And I told him that flying the flag upside-down was as great a sign of respect for my country as I could think of. After all, America is in trouble, and flying its flag upside-down is a sign of distress*. The inverted flag calls out to everybody who sees: "Please help the United States. Don't let the most promising nation on earth fall into tyranny." '

    Perhaps Mr. Warren66 cares so much for this country that he will do this too? Please help "MW" and myself to keep this country free.

  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    here it is:

    Rusty's 3" Basic Kit Ø $459
    Front and Rear 3" Coils
    Drop Pitman Arm
    Transfer Case Drop Kit
    Extended Rear Sway Bar Links
    Rear Trac Bar Bracket
    4 - Rusty's Hydraulic Shocks

    OME (at quadratec):
    Price: $ 649.95

    front and rear coil springs
    top and bottom poly spring isolators
    transfer case lowering kit
    track bar relocation bracket
    Emu Nitrocharger shock absorber

    It looks like Rusty has the sway bar links and a pitman arm, while OME has the "isolators". OME comes in at $190 more.

    If Rusty's can do a heavier load rated spring like Emu does, I think I might have to go with it.

    I also plan on checking the warranty on both.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,571
    Interesting links, but off-topic for a car forum.

    Yeah, that was a hint! Enjoy the holiday.

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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I think I am gonna like that safari top after all. It really doesn't do much for Thelma's looks one way or another.

    Its real purpose is shade from the sun, and I know I am gonna like that part. I think Ross Allen will get more benefit from it than I had originally thought he would.

    The top DOES go back is far as it can, contrary to my prior post. It's just that the roll bar turns and starts downward farther forward than I thought it did. The top goes all the way to the point where the roll bar starts down.

    I'm gonna post a pic in the photo gallery, if you are curious about how the top looks. I have three pics posted in gill's gallery, if you want to go there. I added them to an existing album of mine there that shows Thelma with her rocker guards.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    Oh yeah, right on, Steve! Let's talk Jeep in here! :)
  • huckhillhuckhill Posts: 20
    I know we have been here before, but now that it is summer, I was wondering if any of you have decided to run your Jeep without the sides and back rather than put on a safari or bikini top? Does it work well or does it drive you crazy with the flapping? Is it too rough on the top to run it like that all through the summer?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,579
    fastm3 --if you are pricing your Jeep off of Kelley Blue Book retail, you are probably too high. There are a few cars that can pull "full blue book" but I don't think a Wrangler can. If you split the diff between wholesale and retail you'd be closer I think, or look up the True Market Value on the Edmunds Home Page.

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  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    Yes; as I understand it the 4 speed auto will be available on the 2003 Wranglers. I bought my Sahara used, so for me the manual was the only way to go. Had a four speed autobox been an option I would have given it serious consideration. That said, I find the manual to be a lot of fun- but I almost never have to deal with stop and go traffic...
  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    When does the 03 Wrangler come out? I want to wait to see the price on the 03 before I get mine in Aug/Sept...sorry Rob, Tomster and BigK but I can't risk jumping into a car payment 300/mo or more til my job situation is clarified. Though the Wrangler Fever is driving me crazy, I want to be sure of the job situation before I take the plunge. I definitely want the Sienna...both the camel and the agate interior look nice. The soft top will help on cost...I can always get the hardtop later. As for the manual vs auto debate...I have to go for the auto. I have had joint problems from time to time and although I have not been tested for the family ailment...arthitis, it isn't worth the risk of getting the manual.

    New or used, congrats on the "slightly used, more like new" Jeep...a Wrangler new or used is a joy forever...ok a joy til the newer model that catches your eye comes along ;).

    As for the "debate" on the above posts...come on boys get along here. We celebrate our differences and our similarities...Jeeps that is! If ya wanna take off the gloves for a political or phylosophical discussion...make up a website/chat room for that. We like talkin Jeeps and Jeepstuff here....take it easy. nation under God.

    ok that's my final comment on that one. Well if I don't chat with you all before or during the 4th holiday weekend...have a safe and happy one...and don't forget.....


  • lawdawgfllawdawgfl Posts: 75
    Happy 4th everyone, lets make sure it’s a safe one. I’ll be out protecting the streets of South West Florida, while you enjoy your parades and B-B-Qs. Remember fire works hurt when something goes wrong… be careful.

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    You have a good 4th too! We don't appreciate you LEOs enough! You guys do a great job that is too often taken for granted by civilians.

    Same with our military folks and firemen/rescue workers. Seems like we don't think about our police, firemen, and soldiers until time of crisis. Just human nature, I guess.


    Thanks to all of you!


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  • Happy 4th to everyone! - Well, last night I installed my bikini top with the "drill" header. Twylie was right- after the first hole, the rest are easy. Everything went very smooth, and it looks/works great. Thanks for the advice and help on this one everybody.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, Gill's chat room is down again, but the rest of the site is working. Hopefully, Gill will get the chat fixed soon.

    We have to remember that Gill does this on the side and at his own expense. He runs a computer shop, has a job with the schoool board maintaining 600 computers, and he administers an ISP service owned by a cable tv company. He has lots of irons in the fire, and he can't always jump right on a problem with Often he doesn't know there is a problem until someone emails him, since he doesn't even have time to go to his own site every day.

    It's a fun place for all the edmunds gang here to go to and chat with each other, so don't give up if the chat room doesn't work on certain days. Just keep trying.

    I see that you've been there, lawdawg. That's great! Keep trying to get into the chat room.

    Gill may be in Georgia for the 4th, so it might be a couple days until we have the chat room back.


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  • fastm3fastm3 Posts: 3
    Thanks for your message Mr_Shiftright.

    The MSRP on my car was $21,875 (although obviously that's not what I actually paid). Kelley Blue Book price with all the options came out to $17,065. I also did a TMV on Edmunds as you suggested and got $16,234. Curiously Edmunds does not allow for inclusion of the Canyon Package in calculating the price, which mine has.

    Anyway, I've priced my car at $15,900, so based on the above numbers it shouldn't be too high.

    Thanks again,

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,579
    Well that sounds like a good price then. I think $17K from Kelley is too high. I've seen dealers ask less that or even less for a 2000 and they of course are providing financing and maybe even extended warranty, etc., so you have to price yours a bit lower to lure people away from the dealer.

    What's in a Canyon package?

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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    The canyon package is the 30" tires, the canyon style aluminum wheels (the real nice, kind of dished wheels) and, in my case anyway, it included the dana 44 rear end. It's a biggie. I believe the retail price of this option on my Thelma Jane was $850.


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  • oceantoadoceantoad Posts: 186
    The canyon also includes different shocks. I believe they are Bilstein gas shocks.

    Still a happy camper.
  • dwrangler -

    I believe that the 2003 Wranglers should be at dealers in late September.

    I hope this helps.
  • Hello all. Over the last week or so I've actually gone back and read every message posted in this forum. I feel like I already know most of you and I've never even posted. Anyway, here's my story. I bought a new TJ back in 1999 and loved having it. Unfortunately, I fell to pressure from my wife and sold it in 2000. Well, she's gone now so I started thinking about getting another one. After reading everyone's posts in here I am now totally set on getting a new TJ. I'm going to hold out for a 2003 since they're so close, but once those babies are out I'll be the first one in line for a new one. If James is right, I've got about another 4 months or so which is going to be hell.

    I love how close knit this whole little Edmund's Jeep community is. One of the things that I hated back when I had my 99 Wrangler was all the flaming that I got on internet message boards from people about having a TJ instead of CJ. I'm glad to see that none of that has started up here and hopefully it never will.

    Anyway, I just wanted to check in and say hi to everyone. I plan on being an active part of this message board and maybe I'll even stop by Gill's and chat it up with some of you.

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    WELCOME! Glad you decided to break the ice and post.

    You read EVERY message in here? MAN! Bet that took a while, huh?

    I hope you will do as you say and become a regular poster and frequenter of Gill's.

    You are right about this being a close knit group, but we are NOT a clique, and new folks are always welcomed into the family here. Like I said in a prior post, you can only come here once as a stranger.

    I love this place, but I guess you know that after reading all the posts. :)

    Man, I hope you can make it through your waiting period. Believe me, I know all about Wrangler Fever.

    Rick, when you said your wife is gone now, I'm not sure what you meant, but if she passed away, I am terribly sorry.

    Once again, welcome, my friend.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    Bury me shallow
    Or bury me deep
    As long as you bury me
    In my Jeep

    Tell the mortician
    It's no disgrace
    If he can't remove
    The smile from my face

    When friends come view
    My earthly remains
    They'll see me in Thelma
    My Thelma Jane

    Be sure she's topless
    And doorless too
    Do this for me
    And I'll be grateful to you

    When you get to Heaven
    Be sure to look for us three
    You know we'll be wheelin'
    Thelma Jane, Ross Allen, and me
  • Welcome Rick! This is a great place. Lots of support from people who get along without all of the flaming you find elsewhere. Definitely stop by Gill's. It's always fun chatting about Jeeps and a whole lotta of other topics as well. You haven't lived until you've been privy to Tom's jokes :)
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I reread your post, and I think you were referring to your Jeep when you said "she's gone now." My bad. :)


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  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    I reread your post, and I think you were referring to your Jeep when you said "she's gone now."

    I was going to comment too but discretion compelled me to steer clear of that one! :-)

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  • Yeah, I should have been a lot more clear on that one. When I said that she's gone I was talking about the fact she and I are divorced. Sorry 'bout the confusion on that one.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,571
    I thought that was what you meant when you mentioned getting pressured to get rid of the TJ. But I didn't want to stick my foot in it either, lol.

    Welcome to Town Hall - great bunch of Jeep folk here.

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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    You mean to tell me that your wife said it was either her or your Jeep, and you chose your wife? What were ya thinkin'? :)


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    "I'm gonna miss her". (ever hear that fishin' song?)

    Also, how about the one about "now I have 3 daughters of my own..." "Just an old, worn out Jeep..."?

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