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  • Check out this petiition. I think it is a good idea and signed.

    Here is the clip from this link.

    Speaking if independent front suspension, I've received tons of letters regarding a recent item in the British car magazine Auto Express. The piece detailed how the next generation Wrangler would be introduced for model year 2002 and that it will have independent suspension and bare a strong resemblance to the Icon concept.

    While Auto Express generally does a good job, they're completely off-base on this one.I blame myself. Wether first hand or not, all the information in the story is cribbed from old reports originally published in Buzz Watch. I know because the author repeatedly refers to the truck as the VJ and discusses the fact that it's based on the same platform as the KJ. Neither is true. I had originally heard Buzz that Jeep® planed to base the next Wrangler on the KJ platform I also reported that the new Wrangler platform was designated "VJ."

    I did a few columns that mentioned this erroneous information (some of which are still lingering around on the site). I was also under the misguided impression that the Wrangler would debut in 2002. As I always point out (whenever I'm wrong) Buzz is an evolving thing. I'd recommend to any would be authors doing "research" on this site that they check the freshness date of a column before borrowing information.

    Daily readers of this column know that the next Wrangler is in-fact called TK. While there had been discussion of putting an IFS on the TK, the brass at DC saw the light and decided that the new truck will NOT have independent front suspension. Instead, It will feature an evolution of the current quadra coil solid axle suspension.

    The new Wrangler also won't be out for several years. For 2002 the current Wrangler will get a refresh featuring new bumpers and a new modular top. In 2003 we'll be seeing the new off-road edition. The next Wrangler will be showing up in 2005 as a 2006 model.


    What did your friend do to the exhaust system? How did it get damaged and what part of the exhaust system was damaged?


    I am in Houston. Sounds like you have a nice bass boat. I saltwater more than fresh. I went to a company resort place that had a few lakes with bass. You throw a line in and catch one right when hits the water. Nice size fish 3-8pds.

    Lots of bigger ones but takes sometime to get them. I caught a ton of fish. It got old and really took the sport out of it. If you took a boat out you wouldn't catch anything. They would hit anything at the doc where I guess they feed the fish.

  • Texasjeep, just who on this message board are you refering to as "would be author"?
  • hosstjhosstj Posts: 28
    The post by texasjeep was an article he pulled from a web site,which he posted the address for. I dont think texasjeep was refering to anyone on the board as a would be author. I have read that article earlier today, thats wording from the article.

    I hope eveyone that has ordered a Jeep gets them soon. I know how tough it is to wait. Dealer called today left message hoss got on the train yesterday. He said should be about 2 weeks (long pause) "I hope" then hung up. Now after reading they are closing down line on and off, makes me wonder.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I think that they will still be shipping, even when the plant goes down. If I'm not mistaken, they don't get to invoice the dealer until the vehicle ships, so they're not likely to let the finished vehicles sit around very long.

    Man, you guys that are waiting for your Jeeps certainly have my sympathy. I know how tough it was on me, and my wait was only three weeks and two days. Now, with the plant shutting down off and on so frequently, you just don't know what to expect.

    Tonkadave, I read that article of texasjeep's the same way hosstj does. Those were not the words of texasjeep, but were the words in an article he was quoting. He wasn't refering to anyone in the group, and they weren't even his words.

    Good luck to all of you "expectant fathers."


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    The Friday's Freeways chat is starting in under an hour's time (5-6pm Pacific). If you're new to it, stop by, and have a look see. Hope to see you there!

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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, does everyone know that KarenS is trying to set up a weekly chat for us? She is posting in the "Meet the Members" section under the "Jeep Owners Club" group.

    The response has been underwhelming! Isn't anyone other than spyrodragon, dragonfly, and yours truly interested in a chat session?

    I hope that chat gets off the ground. I think it would be lots of fun.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • hosstjhosstj Posts: 28
    Hey tsjay hows it going? I am glad you reminded me about the chat that Karen was setting up. I think it would be fun. Glad to see so many people getting involved,and getting Jeeps. I was in Dallas in a class today,talking to a man from Denver, He bought a Sport last year. I told him to come join us. He seemed interested. Funny thing he had a picture of it right next to the kids in his wallet.
  • I really enjoyed my last wrangler and I want to get another one but my parents are close-minded and they say jeeps are unsafe. Can anyone help me with some safety info or insurance info that will help me? Thanks
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    If you will really heed this policy, then you could tell your parents that knowing the limitations of a Jeep, you will keep your speed down and avoid taking corners too fast.

    On the other hand, driving a regular car might cause you to not be as careful and give you a false sense of security.

    Don't tell them this unless you mean it! I hope you WILL drive your Jeep sensibly and won't get hurt.

    I know that I am driving my new Jeep much slower than I used to drive my Grand Prix, and I actually feel that I have less chance of an accident now than I had with the car. I know a Jeep cannot be driven like it was just a regular car, so I adjust my driving accordingly.



    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • rb123rb123 Posts: 51
    Hello again,

    I have a new 2001 wrangler sahara with the automatic trans. So far I really like it a lot, but I have a question. I have noticed that when I take off from a stop light that I seem to feel a vibration from the engine as it passes through the 1200rpm range, and then after that it is gone. It's not a real bad vibration but it's noticeable to me. I was wondering if this is normal for the wrangler or if I have a potential problem.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    What a tragedy! What a shock!!

    I wasn't an Earnhardt fan, but I liked him and respected him for all that he has accomplished.

    My condolences to his family and friends, and to all of you who rooted for him. My daughter was a big Earnhardt fan.

    I still can't believe that this has happened!

  • davidb72davidb72 Posts: 174
    Wow, what a shock. I guess he's up there racing with Tim Richmond, Davey Allison, Neil Bonnet, Fireball Roberts and all the other drivers that were lost before their time. To think he just ran the 24 hours, IROC, and was so vibrant right before the 500. This one really hurts.
  • gcl98gcl98 Posts: 26
    Since you asked, TS, here it is.

    The leak hasn't been solved yet. It's been in the shop 2 times, and I haven't made the 1st payment yet. The first time, they replaced the driver's door seal, which is what I suspected the problem was. That didn't do it. The next time I drove it in the rain, not only were the left side foot wells wet, but so was the cargo area. Of course when I brought it back to the shop, they couldn't duplicate the problem. This only happens when driving on wet roads - the car can sit in a downpour all day and not get wet inside.

    The transmission is noisy, as we all know. There's no problem with 1st thru 3rd gear or reverse. I've gotten used to the noise when in neutral with the clutch out, even though there shouldn't be any noise. When upshifting to 4th, if going faster than 30 mph, e.g. when getting on the highway, the transmission 'clunks' when the clutch is let back out. Same thing when going from 4th to 5th above 40 mph. I know there's supposed to be a TSB out for the 2000 5 speed transmission, but haven't seen anything on it yet or heard about a TSB for the 2001 model. I'm going to ask about it when it goes in for the 3000 mile oil change.

    The road noise, wind noise, rough ride, and marginal gas mileage are all to be expected with this kind of vehicle. None of that bothers me - I knew I'd be getting all of that with this car. On the good side, it's fun to drive, and it's great in the snow. And I bet I could climb a vertical wall in 1st/4lo.

    But I didn't buy a 1945 Willys. For 22 grand, I don't expect my feet to get wet unless I'm driving without the top in the rain, and the transmission shouldn't sound like it's going to fall out.
  • tonkadave

    As Hosstj and tsjay said those are not my words. I just posted the article on here so you don't have to follow the link.


    Here is a good article. There were a couple SUVs that scored worse than the wrangler. Others that scored the same that some people consider to be safer. Just remeber all SUVs have a greater risk but that does not mean it will happen. Use common sense and drive safe.


    It is under warranty so it would not hurt to take it in and have them check it.

  • Most of the time when I start going I start out in 2nd gear. I was wondering if it puts more stress on the engine or if there is stress put on clutch? I live in a pretty flat area and starting in 2nd gets me going faster.
  • Driving down the Masspike on Saturday, winds around 30mph, I see what looks like a wave of heavy dust and dirt coming down the highway and curling up and over the jersey barriers like a rip curl. I grit my teeth, and it sounds like someone threw a bag of ball-bearings right at me. Sure enough, the windshield is covered with a thousand tiny little pock-marks.

    I'll call my agent on Tuesday to see if my coverage will give me anything, otherwise I'm going to leave it until April when they've stopped putting sand on the roads. It's not too bad to look through, and really only notice when the sun is shining right at you. Man! Pisses me off though, I'd much rather be spending $300+ on a nice bumper instead of a windshield.

  • Hey, I have a 97 TJ with a factory soft top. And the weather today finally got pleasant after months of snow and sloush. I want to lower my soft top now, but I'm hesitant since I havn't done it before. Is there any type of procedure or things I should know before I attempt to blindly lower it? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
  • I need to change the belt for my power steering pump and my repair manual doesn't show what bolts I need loosen to take the tension off. In looking at the mounting bolts there doesn't appear to be any that slide like on the alternator. Any suggestions?
  • 97 soft tops should be the same as a 2000, so here it goes.
    Unzip the windows and store, you can just roll up the rear window and attatch it up with the snap straps. Next unsnap the windshield lashes, you might not be able to get them all the way out yet. Undo the gutter rails above the doors (pull down then out). Undo the sail flaps on the rear quaterpanels and fold top back... it's that simple! Hope this Helps!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    That's a bummer about your windshield. How about the paint on the front end of your Jeep? Any damge there? Sure hope not.

    I touched up Thelma's white spot on her hard top with a magic marker, and it looks a lot better. It will do the job until she goes into the shop two weeks from today.

    Sorry about your windshield.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Man, I'm sorry to hear that you are still having those problems! A new Jeep should be the source of nothing but pure joy.

    Hopefully it will all be taken care of and you can start really enjoying that baby. Keep us up to date, OK?

    Thelma got 17.9 MPG when I checked her mileage after filling her up tonight. The previous tank was 19.0 MPG, so I'm a prety happy camper.

    Later, gcl98

  • Yea! The gas tank skid came in today. Painting will come tomorrow and then installing it I guess Thursday, cause I work tomorrow. But, yea!

    alee and sparx

  • I test drove three 2000's with 4.0 and the auto and felt a viberation in all of them and finally figured it is probley due to the short drive shaft and bad angles on the u joints
  • I am looking to add some KC lights to my winshield hinges. Has anyone installed these type of lights? How do the wires get through the body with this type of mount? Any recommendation on the type of lights?

  • rb123rb123 Posts: 51
    Thanks for the information, I thought it was most likely normal but I wasn't sure. Did you end up getting a wrangler?
  • rb123rb123 Posts: 51
    Is that gas mileage you are getting from mostly city or highway driving?
  • I sure did, get one. Mine is a 2000 Sport with 5 speed that I ordered, the wait was about to kill me but I have it now and wouldnt change a thing that I ordered on it.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hi RB! My normal driving is mostly highway miles, driving between 60 and 65 MPH.

    I live in the country and drive 27 miles each way to work and back. Probably 22 or 23 of those 27 miles is on four lane divided highway (parkways).

    Once I get to the city where I work, I have two or three miles of in-town driving, plus a few more in-town miles at lunch time to get to a restaurant.

    So, my normal tank of gas is run out at almost pure highway driving conditions, but not as good as a long trip.

    It really, really makes a difference when you drive slower (wind resistance is brutal on a Jeep). It has taken me a while to get used to driving in that 60 to 65 MPH range, but I'm comfortable doing so now.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • rb123rb123 Posts: 51
    Was the vibration you noticed with the automatic wranglers the reason you went with the five speed?
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