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Ford Expedition



  • Sorry, but we can't share the x-plan prices. I work for the a very large company who participates with the x-plan and it says right on the web site before it shows you the prices, that we aren't allowed to share.

    I can tell you that I paid $35,000 for my 2001 F250 PSD and I would have saved about $2,500 if I had used the x-plan but the company I worked for wasn't purchased by the larger one until 7 months later.
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    Which model are you looking at for the Expedition (4WD/2WD)? It seems that there is a (small/large?)problem with a whining noise from the Axle or Transfer Case on 4WD models. I think I remember you saying that you have a lease on your Bravada until next summer. I think that is when the Expedition gets the new 300HP 24 valve V8. Something that might be worth waiting for? The last I heard on the whine is that engineers and Techs are working hard to find the problem and address it. It might be worth it to hold off for a while if you can. Otherwise this is the only problem I have heard of with these so far :-)Most people seem to be very happy with them. Again...good luck with whatever you choose!
  • zman3zman3 Posts: 857

    I have an '03 with that front end growl. A tech at my dealership is looking into it but so far no fix. Have you heard anything definitive on the problem or have you just heard all of us complaining? It seems, to me at least, as though the front driveshaft is spinning in 2WD when it shouldn't be and this is creating the growl in the front hubs when they are not locked into the front halfshafts.

    I saw you lived in MI, do you know anyone on the inside by chance?
  • kbmkbm Posts: 5
    I don't work for them or get anything out of it by saying this, but give Mall of Georgia Ford a try. The guy I dealt with was named Stephen Carter. They matched's price which was more than $7,000 off of MSRP and even reduced the price to cover the "customer service" junk fee. They didn't even ask for a driver's license before a test drive! Email me privately if you are interested and I'll give you more details.
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    Unfortunately I don't have insiders for information on the Expedition itself. I just thought I would let Mfullmer know that if he decides to buy an Expedition that this may be a problem that he encounters. I don't really know how many vehicles this is effecting but It seems that its becoming more common. What I have been doing to keep up to date on the info is tuning into that web site (flat rate tech site) that you posted in the Expedition Problems discussion. Anyway I'll keep scrounging around to see if I can find any more Information. I did notice that Ford has a TSB out on this groaning issue so it seems that they know about it and depicting from what the technician on had to say, Ford is trying hard to find the problem ASAP.
  • mfullmermfullmer Posts: 819
    Thanks for all of the help!!! I am looking at a 2WD model (I have the all-wheel drive Bravada but really, here in Georgia, 2WD with the Advanced Trac will be more useful.) Hopefully I won't have that noise!!! I am really jazzed because I am trying to transfer my lease through one of the lease trading websites. I have someone interested so hopefully she can qualify with GMAC. In any case, it will be nice, whenever, to not have to spend 1/2 my life in a rental car.

    One thing I was posting over at the triplets site was I went back to when the triplets had been out for four months and there were over 280 posts about problems (more than 10 separate) with them. Of course since then there have been many more. I'm relieved to see so few here!

    I've been pleased by the CarsDirect price and was hoping that I could get a dealer to match. I do think I may have to end up ordering one though because the only ones I've seen around Atlanta (using Fords finder) either have the DVD player instead of the Navigation or don't have the Advance Trac (or don't have the features I want), etc. I DO NOT want the DVD player but everything else but I have only seen one and it was a black one which I will not have.

  • I am looking at purchasing a 1997 Expedition with a 5.4L engine. I was wondering, does this engine have a timing belt or chain?
  • It has a timing chain.
  • Was having dinner tonight with family, some of whom are avid GM truck people. Told them I was shopping a new Navigator, and got a load of input on the downside of the new Independent Rear Suspension in the 03 Expedition/Navigators vs. the old live axle in the GM SUVs. To me, the IRS seems like a superior setup, but they're telling me I'm not going to like it for durability. GM people seem to like old technology, and GM usually delivers for them, but I'm wondering if the IRS will have a downside I don't know about. Anybody have some input?
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    "Told them I was shopping a new Navigator, and got a load of input on the downside of the new Independent Rear Suspension in the 03 Expedition/Navigators vs. the old live axle in the GM SUVs."

    HAHA! Thats just what people say that drive around old tech vehicles ;-) I have heard of 0 problems with the IRS. Every mag I read praises the new Navigator for its terrific composure in the corners due to the IRS. The only thing that I think would be a problem durability wise would be CV joints. With towing, those have to be heavy duty. Also after time the rubber covers (CV boots) for them tend to break and let stuff in. However they don't take as much stress as the ones in the front so I don't think thats much of an issue. GM's SUV's ride nice but don't really seem to handle well IMHO. Anyway just ones guys perspective. I haven't heard of any problems from the Explorer's IRS units so I'm sure that the beefed up Navi's and Expedition's IRS will be just fine.
  • That's been my experience too. I don't do much off-off roading anyway, but occasionally I want to go somewhere insane. I like the ride and steering of the Escalade a little better actually
    but it lacks so many features, keyless entry pad, disappearing 3rd seat, etc., not to mention the Chevy Truck interior, that it's unlikely I would go that way unless the deal was much better. Plus, my dealer bends over backwards for me at Lincoln. Very likely I'll risk the IRS. :)
  • I am considering a Durango, Suburban, or Expedition. I am concerned about Safety, Reliability, Gas Mileage, and cost. I do not want anything older than a 1999 and my wife wants a third row seat. Any suggestions?
  • So expect some bias, ok? The Durango, while the best looking, IMO, is woefully short on technology, ie; drum brakes on the rear, and on 3rd row seat leg and hip room. It's a long way from the Suburban size. BTW, some Suburbans, older I think, had car brakes on the 2WD versions, which wear out about every 10,000 miles. The three you have chosen are not really competitive, as they differ so much in size. The Expedition is midway between them, and the best overall choice IMO. But the Suburban is generally a good truck, though much larger. The Durango is also durable and very powerful if ordered with the 5.9L V8.
  • What kind of fuel economy do you get. I am leaning towards the Expedition and maybe Suburban. I have heard that the Suburban gets better economy than the Expedition and I have some concerns about the rear seat being so close to the rear hatch.
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    I have a 1999 Eddie Bauer Expedition with 4WD and 5.4L V8. I get 11-12 MPG in town and 17-18 MPG on the highway at about 75MPH. I have been very happy with this vehicle and can report only needing to have my tires balanced and I have a small rust problem on the bottom of the front doors. If its rusts through Ford will get me new doors so I'm not worried about it. I would look at 2000 and newer models as those faired very well in Consumer Reports.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    I am looking at a pretty loaded '03 EB 4x2 with the 5.4, moonroof, DVD, and side canopy. I have a price negotiated of 34,660 with the MSRP being 41,160. First off is this a good deal (it does have 1100 mi on it)?? Second is there anyway to add a tv tuner to the stock dvd system? Is the above gas mileage what I should expect? I was given the vehicle to drive over the weekend and noticed a vibration over 70 mph. Anyone have similar problems it has the continental tires on it and I have not checked the air pressure. Any feed back would be appreciated.
  • zman3zman3 Posts: 857
    I can comment on one question. I too have a vibration at 70+ mph. Dealer says my front tires are out of round and they have ordered replacments. My rear tires were also not balanced properly at delivery.
  • Hi! does anyone know if the Expy's LARGE exterior side mirrors can be fitted with Lincoln Navigator's power fold side mirrors?
  • mfullmermfullmer Posts: 819
    The Expedition (and, to a lesser extent, the Durango) compete with the Tahoe as far as size goes, not the Suburban. The Excursion competes with the Suburban.
  • Regarding pricing, I think you will be able to do a little better. I was at Leif Johnson Ford in Austin looking at an '03 Expedition decked out. List was $43,024. They immediately went to $35,736 without any pressure from me. There was a $1500 rebate included. This equates to a 16.9% discount. Your deal was 15.8% disc. I would go back for a better deal.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    The deal I posted was excluding rebate. The price including rebate was 33160. I walked on the deal cuz they tried to jerk me around in the finance office. I still think the expy is a great deal for the cash. I was also looking at MDX abd Envoy XL and the expy offered way more for the money.
  • you mind sharing how the dealership was trying to give you the run around in the finance office?
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    Just played the extended warranty and other back end product game. also quoted me a rate I believed was way high. I may still get an expy but will do the financing on my own. I also was made to wait over an hour to even go in the finance managers office. I don't respond well to those types of sales tactics. So I got up and walked. I have been called back several times but have no interest in dealing with them. (by the way It wasn't joe but me that got the run around)
  • Looking for an XLT 4x4. Have NO towing needs. Any opinions on which engine to opt for!
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    4.6L will be fine for most people if you only have 2WD. The 5.4L would be better for 4WD Expeditions IMO. Have you driven a 4X4 Expy with both engines? I would think that to be your best bet. Some say that the 4.6L suits their needs just fine. So I guess it just depends how power hungry you are ;-)
  • I would have gotten the 4.6 since the mpg is better. But the AdvnceTrak only comes on the 5.4L, that's why I got the 5.4. Ever notice how a lot of SUV's tails spin out of control during the rain or or curvy roads? I think eventually the AdvanceTrak can be improved enough to replace the need for 4x4(unless one lives in a snowy or muddy area)
  • Got a beautiful black Expedition last month. XLT popular, with bucket seats, and cd changer. Got a good deal at Joe Myers in Houston. Sticker 34,430. Went out paying $29000 with rebate. Bought over the internet. First thousand miles on it this week and loving this vehicle. Had such a good experience may decide to buy a New Mazda 6 from them in the near future.
  • Does the 29,000 include the tax and title?
  • No it was about 31200 drive out. Still think I did pretty well considering its a new model. My first Ford too.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087

    I'm also in houston. I am glad I waited I had a deal wriiten up 33160 on a 41100 MSRP it was an eddie bauer. There is an additional 1000 bonus cash availble on the expedition now. I dealt with russell smith.
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