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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Out for a jog today saw a street parked 87-91 Bonneville, and I had to think it is at least 34 years old. The equivalent of at the newest a 1957 car when it was new.
Once for us (Outback), and once for the step-daughter (2nd MINI, the Countryman).
I did have a dealer trade for a black '91 Nissan Sentra SE, but when it arrived, it had pinstripes on it, so I rejected it and got the red one that was already on the lot.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Perhaps not the best pic, and a bit ironic that it looks like it's outside a junkyard, but this is the green I wanted...
Nice size, and imho the styling has aged pretty well.
Daughter is in Corsica now and today sent ths pic of a 2CV. Friend told me they built these til about 1990!
Who says the French were behind-the-times, automotive-wise? 😀
Yesterday was my wife’s last day in her classroom of 34 years, with students. She drove the C8 and this is her getting home. I took a poor pic but she looks like a low rider, lol.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
And indeed the 2CV soldiered on into the 1990 model year.
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That got me thinking. I have technically never "bought" a new car. All 4 new cars were leases, and the current car was a bought out lease - maybe I can count that one as a technicality.
Also I am not sure if any new cars even have CD players anymore, I am skeptical.
They don’t help much to the sides and front.
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She is driver 2 and I’m driver 1 and the seats are pre-set (by us) memory seats. When the car is turned off, the driver’s seat automatically moves the whole way back to facilitate exit. I think that’s where it is in the pic.
Fin, both I and my parents had new ‘90 Corsicas. Mine was a four with 5-speed; my parents’ was a V6 with column shift automatic.
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Those last Eighty-Eights were a nice size and styling I think. The Ninety-Eights, not so much.
@uplanderguy - did either of you have the liftback? I have only seen a few 5 door Corsicas over the years.
Young, foolish and still lived at home! At one point with three cars my Stepdad said anymore and I can sleep in one of them
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My two favorite cars, well into the late 90s, were the Lincoln Town Car and Geo Tracker. To this day, I've yet to own either model!
Yesterday, saw an MGB-GT towing a small enclosed U-Haul trailer.
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If I recall correctly my Mom co-signed the very small loan on the Taurus and that history was enough to get me approved for the 88 on my own. I also remember getting a Sears and JCPenney card right at 18 to help build credit. I think they had $250 limits at first.
Everyone knew I was part of the “yacht club”. Heck my first ride was an 89 Grand Marquis. I don’t remember much of buying that 88, other than the Taurus had a ton of problems and it had to go. When I leased the 2003 Avalon I did have a comment that I was the youngest guy they ever sold one to.
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Fin, neither of our Corsicas was the hatch.
I had a sears card at 18 too. Used to use it to gas up right before getting on the thruway to head up to college.
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If I recall correctly my Mom co-signed the very small loan on the Taurus and that history was enough to get me approved for the 88 on my own. I also remember getting a Sears and JCPenney card right at 18 to help build credit. I think they had $250 limits at first.
Everyone knew I was part of the “yacht club”. Heck my first ride was an 89 Grand Marquis. I don’t remember much of buying that 88, other than the Taurus had a ton of problems and it had to go. When I leased the 2003 Avalon I did have a comment that I was the youngest guy they ever sold one to.
I remember having a secured credit card and I think I had a JCP card too. I recall my parents co-signed for both my brother and sister to get car upgrades at age 18-19 (my brother went from a K-car to a Neon Expresso, my sister went from a Rampage that I think she wish she still had to a Contour) - both were 2-3 year old lease returns I think.
Did the Taurus vomit up a head gasket? I bought my 1989 S-class from a dealer, and I remember he thought it was unusual a 20-something guy was into that car. I am pretty sure it got a few grandpa car comments, and of course the fintail did when I bought it when I was still 18.
At the time, I was 18, making $2.30/hr, and had just been asked to leave college for the 2nd time.
What a time to be alive!
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After the Dynasty, he bought a '95 Maxima with a stick. And by the time I knew him, he had a "2001.5" Passat, also a manual.
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The Taurus had already had a head gasket done under extended warranty. It was everything else on the car. The HVaC was all messed up and never blew out of the correct vents. The front suspension was worn (the 3.8 was heavy and tough on it) and it had various sensors acting up. It would idle at 3K for no reason.
I really liked that car but it was probably the most unreliable thing I ever owned.
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I'd still like to own a Mustang someday- a Bullitt, a Mach 1 or -my holy grail- a Saleen Dan Gurney Signature Edition:
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I don't recall that car having sensor issues, but I do recall it had a quirk probably by 40K miles or so - a sloshing water sound ahead of the dashboard like in the firewall/heater core area. I remember telling her more than once to get it looked at, but I don't think she ever did as it didn't impact functionality. I was away at school then so I could only keep tabs so much on her car. I also remember the struts went quickly, maybe by 35K miles or so, definitely still in the 90s as I recall it was creaking when I visited from school and told her to take it in. Too bad, as she liked that car too, and I always thought the refreshed Taurus looked decent, sharpening it up a little made it look completely modern again. It also felt fast enough at least compared to what I was used to.
She's had her Camry for approaching 20 years now and is fine with it, probably has bonded with it although I don't know if she'll admit that. I doubt she'll buy another car as she never drives beyond the small town where she lives and it continues to run effectively like new, only real fault being the AC is lukewarm.
Has your mom had any oil consumption issues in her Camry? My late financial guy grumbled about that in the circa ‘07 or ‘08 one he bought new.
I saw this CBS Evening News segment while sitting at a bar in 2012 and it moved me like no other TV news story I've ever seen. I look at it every June 6.
Hats off to this remarkable woman. She passed in 2020.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Interestingly, 4 cyl Camrys of the generation she has are timing chain engines, while the V6 is a timing belt.
As for me, I never understood why you would want a car that looked fast but was actually slower than molasses.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I could see the rationale, for something that looked a bit spiffier than the everyday mundane. Personally though, I like the idea of something that DOESN'T look fast, but actually is!
fin, one other thing that strikes me as odd on a lot of older Camrys I've seen is how the replacement exhaust (I assume) hangs way below the car. It's as ubiquitous as GM pickups of that era with a parking light out.
You'd mentioned timing chain vs. timing belt. I loathe timing belts. Never had one 'til I bought a cheap used PT for my older daughter on eBay, and I have one in the 2015 Cruze 1.8 I drive daily today (younger daughter's college car which came back to me). If we had a repair that cost as much as these do to replace, we'd all complain. Since the manufacturers say "required maintenance", we shrug our shoulders.
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Yeah that exhaust routing was alway suspect to me. Felt like an afterthought around the suspension. Not very Toyota like at all.
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I am not a fan of timing belts either, I can't believe any efficiency gains are worth durability issues. The extreme low miles Avalon my friend picked up is a timing belt car, and the seller had it done prior to sale - I have to imagine it's a couple grand to do the change these days.
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But, these days a lot of OHC engines have timing chains as well. My 2000 Intrepid, with the 2.7 V6 had a chain. I used to think it had two chains, one for each camshaft, but I just looked up a schematic and nope, just one long chain that goes from the crankshaft to both camshafts, as well as the water pump.
That thing looks like it would be nothing but trouble to me, although I had my car for 150,000 miles with no issues. I've heard in later years though that they WERE troublesome. Apparently, the guides would wear, and would allow the chain to stretch out.