Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

qbrozen

@stickguy said:
can you even fit in a last gen RX7? I seem to recall that they were very cramped for tall people.

I have no idea. I only ever sat in a first gen and an RX8.

nyccarguy

@qbrozen said:

@oldfarmer50 said:
The C5 Corvette is the best style wise IMO. Clean lines and understated.

I prefer the C6. I was never a fan of popup headlights.

I like the C6 too! And the C7 as well.

fintail

nyccarguy said:

fintail said:

nyccarguy said:

My 16 year old son who plays Forza on XBox and always asks me questions about the cars before he modifies the daylights out of them snapped a few pics of this MK4 Supra on our way home from one of his 4 hockey games this weekend.

I like those for the nostalgia and wacky styling - not pretty, but pretty wild at the time. I'd want it to look 100% stock, and IMO a LHD car has more cred as it has survived and is not a new private import. Maybe get a TT Targa with automatic just to upset the shift-yourselfers (probably also a car with a high theft rate).

It is the Bullitt Mustang for late gen X/millennials. The Autos get a lot of hate for sure. Check out the comments on THIS 1995 Toyota Supra Turbo There is a company in TX (I think) that buys Supras, does all the deferred maintenance, fixes and restores broken interior bits & seats, then resells. They will also manual swap the car for a price as well.

The funny thing about all these halo Japanese sports cars from the early - mid 90's (Supra, RX7, 300ZX, 3000 GT) is that for the most part they were driven hard, crashed, modified within an inch of their life. People changed the wheels, lowered the suspensions, installed giant spoilers, gaudy body kits, bigger turbos, and freer flowing exhausts. The ones that have been barely driven and kept in relatively stock form are worth a lot of money.

Guess which cars from that era were maybe not as sexy from a technology standpoint, but were lightweight, RWD, V8 powered, laughed at by the press and most import enthusiasts? Parts are easily available, the cars have been generally well cared and have low miles for because their owners only drove them on Sundays and used diapers to polish them. Late model C4s and C5 Corvettes are reasonably priced in today's market given their condition a miles as well as availability of the 6 Speed Manual Transmission. I dig the C5 Z06!

Here is a 2004 Corvette Z06 that is 9 years newer, has a 6-Speed Stick, less miles, and ends in 2 days just like the Supra I linked above.

That is a really nice Corvette, and no doubt is a lot of car for the money, a value. Not meaning to insult anyone , I am still not sure if I am old enough for a Corvette, while I may be closing in on too old for the Supra (I am a late Xer but it almost seems like too much intentional nostalgia, I could probably deal with it if someone just gave me one though). I like/d the Supra, but even back in the day my tastes went to MB, a period AMG or V12 MB, while no doubt much more dramatic to own in terms of maintenance expense, got to me more. It'll be interesting to see what the black Supra goes for.

corvette

The C5s are quite affordable now, especially if you want a driver and are willing to put up with a few blemishes.

tifighter

For me, it’s not about the headlights. It’s about the front and rear overhangs relative to the wheelbase. And I think the C6 manages that better than the C5. It makes the design cleaner and more taut looking, to my eyes.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

The C5 Corvette is the best style wise IMO. Clean lines and understated.

I prefer the C6. I was never a fan of popup headlights.

Yep, the C6 is superior by every metric but I like the looks of the C5. I was enamored of hidden headlights since they came out in the 60s. I also liked the sequential tail lights on Cougars.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

tjc78 said:

I'm in the minority for sure.. but I like the silver wheels.

Is that the spare? Surprised it isn't black like the others.

I also like the silver, but black is fine, too. I would take bronze over either of them.

I’m not a fan of black wheels in most cases. To me they look like old steel wheels that lost a hub cap.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

The C5 Corvette is the best style wise IMO. Clean lines and understated.

I prefer the C6. I was never a fan of popup headlights.

This right here..

nyccarguy

@qbrozen - how are you feeling today?

graphicguy

benjaminh said:

The CX-50 hybrid sounds like a good choice from my pov. Toyota hybrid system without the Toyota price. And iirc your daughter got a loaded one for a couple of thousand off of msrp. Mazdas have nicer interiors than a RAV4.

2020 RDX length: 187 inches, width 74.8

2025 CX-50 length: 186 inches, width 73

Since she seems happy with the size of the RDX this is a nice match up.

But the CX-90 plug in hybrid with the big lease incentive sounds like it might be a nice deal on a bigger and more powerful vehicle.

CX-90 length: 200, width 77.6

nyccarguy said:

fintail said:

nyccarguy said:

My 16 year old son who plays Forza on XBox and always asks me questions about the cars before he modifies the daylights out of them snapped a few pics of this MK4 Supra on our way home from one of his 4 hockey games this weekend.

I like those for the nostalgia and wacky styling - not pretty, but pretty wild at the time. I'd want it to look 100% stock, and IMO a LHD car has more cred as it has survived and is not a new private import. Maybe get a TT Targa with automatic just to upset the shift-yourselfers (probably also a car with a high theft rate).

It is the Bullitt Mustang for late gen X/millennials. The Autos get a lot of hate for sure. Check out the comments on THIS 1995 Toyota Supra Turbo There is a company in TX (I think) that buys Supras, does all the deferred maintenance, fixes and restores broken interior bits & seats, then resells. They will also manual swap the car for a price as well.

The funny thing about all these halo Japanese sports cars from the early - mid 90's (Supra, RX7, 300ZX, 3000 GT) is that for the most part they were driven hard, crashed, modified within an inch of their life. People changed the wheels, lowered the suspensions, installed giant spoilers, gaudy body kits, bigger turbos, and freer flowing exhausts. The ones that have been barely driven and kept in relatively stock form are worth a lot of money.

Guess which cars from that era were maybe not as sexy from a technology standpoint, but were lightweight, RWD, V8 powered, laughed at by the press and most import enthusiasts? Parts are easily available, the cars have been generally well cared and have low miles for because their owners only drove them on Sundays and used diapers to polish them. Late model C4s and C5 Corvettes are reasonably priced in today's market given their condition a miles as well as availability of the 6 Speed Manual Transmission. I dig the C5 Z06!

Here is a 2004 Corvette Z06 that is 9 years newer, has a 6-Speed Stick, less miles, and ends in 2 days just like the Supra I linked above.

Excellent points. I think the popularity of the 2 fast-2 furious movies had something to do with it. Not a good reason, but a reason nonetheless.

Most of the Japanese modded Supras, Zs, 300GTs, etc that I've seen modified were not done well. And, their condition proves it.

Gimme a 'vette or a Mustang any day of the week vs the JDL counterparts. Most 'vettes are or have been owned by "geez.....er....mature drivers". As such, they aren't ratted out and generally well cared for.

tjc78

Gimme a 'vette or a Mustang any day of the week vs the JDL counterparts. Most 'vettes are or have been owned by "geez.....er....mature drivers". As such, they aren't ratted out and generally well cared for.

Exactly why pristine examples of the Supra, 300ZX, 3000GT, etc go for so much money... they were heavily modified by the owners at the time.

qbrozen

@nyccarguy said:
@qbrozen - how are you feeling today?

I’m doing OK. Thanks.

I do live in fear of a sneeze, though.

My workplace should be grateful for my predicament. I worked like 12 hours a day Thursday-Friday and worked the weekend. What else am I gonna do?

Oh, unrelated, I’m going to apply for classic status on the Alfa. For an extra $30, I can get personalized plates. Here are the choices I’m thinking:
ALF156
156 TS
98ALFA

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

@nyccarguy said:
@qbrozen - how are you feeling today?

I’m doing OK. Thanks.

I do live in fear of a sneeze, though.

My workplace should be grateful for my predicament. I worked like 12 hours a day Thursday-Friday and worked the weekend. What else am I gonna do?

Oh, unrelated, I’m going to apply for classic status on the Alfa. For an extra $30, I can get personalized plates. Here are the choices I’m thinking:

ALF156

156 TS

98ALFA

1FIXT6
JDM156

tjc78

Anything with ALF will make people think of this:



So... my vote is "156 TS"

qbrozen

@tjc78 said:
Anything with ALF will make people think of this:

So... my vote is "156 TS"

Oh, I know. The ALF connection kind of appealed to me. lol.

qbrozen

@nyccarguy said:
1FIXT6
JDM156

I think it would be a JIM, though, since it isn’t a domestic brand for them.

I don’t think I get your first one. Maybe 1FIFT6?

The one I’m avoiding is AR-156 since I think that could be confused with a gun.

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

@nyccarguy said:

1FIXT6

JDM156

I think it would be a JIM, though, since it isn’t a domestic brand for them.

I don’t think I get your first one. Maybe 1FIFT6?

The one I’m avoiding is AR-156 since I think that could be confused with a gun.

1 FIXT instead of FIFT (Because it is an Alfa and something always needs to be FIXed). I know, I know, if I you have to explain the joke it isn't funny (The Joker - Voiced by Mark Hammill).

au1994

Have a Malibu rental this week. And that's about all I have to say about it...

corvette

Balance on the loan on the Maverick is now under $2,000. Three more payments, and it's mine!

Michaell

corvette said:

Balance on the loan on the Maverick is now under $2,000. Three more payments, and it's mine!

Time to trade it in?

Michaell

Update from CA - financial reality is starting to hit my middle nephew. He's starting to realize that both his expectations and his budget need to be altered.

He's widening the field of choices, but he still wants a hybrid. He may have to drop down a size, or look at something slightly older and with more miles, to fit his goals.

Apparently, he's been pre-approved for a loan, but I don't know the details.

xwesx

oldfarmer50 said:

I’m not a fan of black wheels in most cases. To me they look like old steel wheels that lost a hub cap.

Well, how about this, then? My son bought a set of black wheels for his Forester. They were very inexpensive (which is why he has black), but have a dual bolt pattern (5x100 and 5x114, IIRC), so one set of holes that are not used by the car, AND they do not have a hub cap (the little cap that goes in the center of aluminum wheels).

He is checking all the boxes!

xwesx

Michaell said:

Update from CA - financial reality is starting to hit my middle nephew. He's starting to realize that both his expectations and his budget need to be altered.

Drop the hybrid. He will still better than double his mileage, save a lot on purchase, and otherwise be able to get the car he wants.

benjaminh

A 2025 Camry without any options has an msrp of $29,895 with destination.

It looks like some these days are getting around a thousand or even two off of list on the Camry, although I think many are paying full list or even more.

Interesting to me is that the Civic hybrid with destination is $30,490, which is $600 more than the Camry LE.

The Corolla hybrid is a significant step down, but with destination lists for $25,770, saving 4k off of the Camry.

If a non-hybrid was in the running, the awd Subaru Imprezza base is $25,530.

If he's gotten pre-approved for a car loan at a bank, the interest rate is probably around 7% or so.

For a 5 year loan of 25k the interest payments for a 7% loan would be about $5000

In comparison, Subaru has 5 year loans on the Crosstrek of 1.9%.

For a 5 year loan of 25k at 1.9% the total interest paid would be about $1250., which would save $3700 over a bank loan.

roadburner

graphicguy said:

benjaminh said:

The CX-50 hybrid sounds like a good choice from my pov. Toyota hybrid system without the Toyota price. And iirc your daughter got a loaded one for a couple of thousand off of msrp. Mazdas have nicer interiors than a RAV4.

2020 RDX length: 187 inches, width 74.8

2025 CX-50 length: 186 inches, width 73

Since she seems happy with the size of the RDX this is a nice match up.

But the CX-90 plug in hybrid with the big lease incentive sounds like it might be a nice deal on a bigger and more powerful vehicle.

CX-90 length: 200, width 77.6

nyccarguy said:

fintail said:

nyccarguy said:

My 16 year old son who plays Forza on XBox and always asks me questions about the cars before he modifies the daylights out of them snapped a few pics of this MK4 Supra on our way home from one of his 4 hockey games this weekend.

I like those for the nostalgia and wacky styling - not pretty, but pretty wild at the time. I'd want it to look 100% stock, and IMO a LHD car has more cred as it has survived and is not a new private import. Maybe get a TT Targa with automatic just to upset the shift-yourselfers (probably also a car with a high theft rate).

It is the Bullitt Mustang for late gen X/millennials. The Autos get a lot of hate for sure. Check out the comments on THIS 1995 Toyota Supra Turbo There is a company in TX (I think) that buys Supras, does all the deferred maintenance, fixes and restores broken interior bits & seats, then resells. They will also manual swap the car for a price as well.

The funny thing about all these halo Japanese sports cars from the early - mid 90's (Supra, RX7, 300ZX, 3000 GT) is that for the most part they were driven hard, crashed, modified within an inch of their life. People changed the wheels, lowered the suspensions, installed giant spoilers, gaudy body kits, bigger turbos, and freer flowing exhausts. The ones that have been barely driven and kept in relatively stock form are worth a lot of money.

Guess which cars from that era were maybe not as sexy from a technology standpoint, but were lightweight, RWD, V8 powered, laughed at by the press and most import enthusiasts? Parts are easily available, the cars have been generally well cared and have low miles for because their owners only drove them on Sundays and used diapers to polish them. Late model C4s and C5 Corvettes are reasonably priced in today's market given their condition a miles as well as availability of the 6 Speed Manual Transmission. I dig the C5 Z06!

Here is a 2004 Corvette Z06 that is 9 years newer, has a 6-Speed Stick, less miles, and ends in 2 days just like the Supra I linked above.

Excellent points. I think the popularity of the 2 fast-2 furious movies had something to do with it. Not a good reason, but a reason nonetheless.

Most of the Japanese modded Supras, Zs, 300GTs, etc that I've seen modified were not done well. And, their condition proves it.

Gimme a 'vette or a Mustang any day of the week vs the JDL counterparts. Most 'vettes are or have been owned by "geez.....er....mature drivers". As such, they aren't ratted out and generally well cared for.

Just remember that as a Corvette owner you must budget for the purchase of jorts and Keds or New Balance sneakers.

tjc78

corvette said:

Balance on the loan on the Maverick is now under $2,000. Three more payments, and it's mine!

"Six more payments, gentlemen, and this beautiful blue four-door luxury sedan is all mine!"

tjc78

roadburner said:

graphicguy said:

benjaminh said:

The CX-50 hybrid sounds like a good choice from my pov. Toyota hybrid system without the Toyota price. And iirc your daughter got a loaded one for a couple of thousand off of msrp. Mazdas have nicer interiors than a RAV4.

2020 RDX length: 187 inches, width 74.8

2025 CX-50 length: 186 inches, width 73

Since she seems happy with the size of the RDX this is a nice match up.

But the CX-90 plug in hybrid with the big lease incentive sounds like it might be a nice deal on a bigger and more powerful vehicle.

CX-90 length: 200, width 77.6

nyccarguy said:

fintail said:

nyccarguy said:

My 16 year old son who plays Forza on XBox and always asks me questions about the cars before he modifies the daylights out of them snapped a few pics of this MK4 Supra on our way home from one of his 4 hockey games this weekend.

I like those for the nostalgia and wacky styling - not pretty, but pretty wild at the time. I'd want it to look 100% stock, and IMO a LHD car has more cred as it has survived and is not a new private import. Maybe get a TT Targa with automatic just to upset the shift-yourselfers (probably also a car with a high theft rate).

It is the Bullitt Mustang for late gen X/millennials. The Autos get a lot of hate for sure. Check out the comments on THIS 1995 Toyota Supra Turbo There is a company in TX (I think) that buys Supras, does all the deferred maintenance, fixes and restores broken interior bits & seats, then resells. They will also manual swap the car for a price as well.

The funny thing about all these halo Japanese sports cars from the early - mid 90's (Supra, RX7, 300ZX, 3000 GT) is that for the most part they were driven hard, crashed, modified within an inch of their life. People changed the wheels, lowered the suspensions, installed giant spoilers, gaudy body kits, bigger turbos, and freer flowing exhausts. The ones that have been barely driven and kept in relatively stock form are worth a lot of money.

Guess which cars from that era were maybe not as sexy from a technology standpoint, but were lightweight, RWD, V8 powered, laughed at by the press and most import enthusiasts? Parts are easily available, the cars have been generally well cared and have low miles for because their owners only drove them on Sundays and used diapers to polish them. Late model C4s and C5 Corvettes are reasonably priced in today's market given their condition a miles as well as availability of the 6 Speed Manual Transmission. I dig the C5 Z06!

Here is a 2004 Corvette Z06 that is 9 years newer, has a 6-Speed Stick, less miles, and ends in 2 days just like the Supra I linked above.

Excellent points. I think the popularity of the 2 fast-2 furious movies had something to do with it. Not a good reason, but a reason nonetheless.

Most of the Japanese modded Supras, Zs, 300GTs, etc that I've seen modified were not done well. And, their condition proves it.

Gimme a 'vette or a Mustang any day of the week vs the JDL counterparts. Most 'vettes are or have been owned by "geez.....er....mature drivers". As such, they aren't ratted out and generally well cared for.

Just remember that as a Corvette owner you must budget for the purchase of jorts and Keds or New Balance sneakers.

Don't forget tall gym socks...

benjaminh

This is the Auto Loan Calculator that's easiest to use from my pov, and also provides the most information.

https://www.calculator.net/auto-loan-calculator.html

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

graphicguy said:

benjaminh said:

The CX-50 hybrid sounds like a good choice from my pov. Toyota hybrid system without the Toyota price. And iirc your daughter got a loaded one for a couple of thousand off of msrp. Mazdas have nicer interiors than a RAV4.

2020 RDX length: 187 inches, width 74.8

2025 CX-50 length: 186 inches, width 73

Since she seems happy with the size of the RDX this is a nice match up.

But the CX-90 plug in hybrid with the big lease incentive sounds like it might be a nice deal on a bigger and more powerful vehicle.

CX-90 length: 200, width 77.6

nyccarguy said:

fintail said:

nyccarguy said:

My 16 year old son who plays Forza on XBox and always asks me questions about the cars before he modifies the daylights out of them snapped a few pics of this MK4 Supra on our way home from one of his 4 hockey games this weekend.

I like those for the nostalgia and wacky styling - not pretty, but pretty wild at the time. I'd want it to look 100% stock, and IMO a LHD car has more cred as it has survived and is not a new private import. Maybe get a TT Targa with automatic just to upset the shift-yourselfers (probably also a car with a high theft rate).

It is the Bullitt Mustang for late gen X/millennials. The Autos get a lot of hate for sure. Check out the comments on THIS 1995 Toyota Supra Turbo There is a company in TX (I think) that buys Supras, does all the deferred maintenance, fixes and restores broken interior bits & seats, then resells. They will also manual swap the car for a price as well.

The funny thing about all these halo Japanese sports cars from the early - mid 90's (Supra, RX7, 300ZX, 3000 GT) is that for the most part they were driven hard, crashed, modified within an inch of their life. People changed the wheels, lowered the suspensions, installed giant spoilers, gaudy body kits, bigger turbos, and freer flowing exhausts. The ones that have been barely driven and kept in relatively stock form are worth a lot of money.

Guess which cars from that era were maybe not as sexy from a technology standpoint, but were lightweight, RWD, V8 powered, laughed at by the press and most import enthusiasts? Parts are easily available, the cars have been generally well cared and have low miles for because their owners only drove them on Sundays and used diapers to polish them. Late model C4s and C5 Corvettes are reasonably priced in today's market given their condition a miles as well as availability of the 6 Speed Manual Transmission. I dig the C5 Z06!

Here is a 2004 Corvette Z06 that is 9 years newer, has a 6-Speed Stick, less miles, and ends in 2 days just like the Supra I linked above.

Excellent points. I think the popularity of the 2 fast-2 furious movies had something to do with it. Not a good reason, but a reason nonetheless.

Most of the Japanese modded Supras, Zs, 300GTs, etc that I've seen modified were not done well. And, their condition proves it.

Gimme a 'vette or a Mustang any day of the week vs the JDL counterparts. Most 'vettes are or have been owned by "geez.....er....mature drivers". As such, they aren't ratted out and generally well cared for.

Just remember that as a Corvette owner you must budget for the purchase of jorts and Keds or New Balance sneakers.

Big no on New Balance. They got so cheap my toes would wear through. Sketchers is the new cool shoe.😎

dbeck

tjc78 said:

corvette said:

Balance on the loan on the Maverick is now under $2,000. Three more payments, and it's mine!

"Six more payments, gentlemen, and this beautiful blue four-door luxury sedan is all mine!"

Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

stickguy

dbeck said:

tjc78 said:

corvette said:

Balance on the loan on the Maverick is now under $2,000. Three more payments, and it's mine!

"Six more payments, gentlemen, and this beautiful blue four-door luxury sedan is all mine!"

Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

Yes, the Buick.

explorerx4

The Cruising Vessel?

tjc78

dbeck said:

tjc78 said:

corvette said:

Balance on the loan on the Maverick is now under $2,000. Three more payments, and it's mine!

"Six more payments, gentlemen, and this beautiful blue four-door luxury sedan is all mine!"

Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

Yep!

https://youtu.be/VHQ5lm8LcKc?feature=shared

breld

Unlike many of you, I have had no experience driving on a track, but I did get the opportunity this morning. Our company’s insurance broker invited a couple of us to a local raceway for 4 hours of instruction and track driving.

I found myself way conservative, but nevertheless had a great time. I didn’t realize how cautious I was in my driving until I rode as a passenger with one of the other guys who was much more fearless on the curves. And the instructor took each of us for a ride to show what could really be done by a professional. That was just bonkers.

In any case, what a great morning.

xwesx

Congrats, @breld ! They really tarted up your BRZ!

Michaell

benjaminh said:

A 2025 Camry without any options has an msrp of $29,895 with destination.

It looks like some these days are getting around a thousand or even two off of list on the Camry, although I think many are paying full list or even more.

Interesting to me is that the Civic hybrid with destination is $30,490, which is $600 more than the Camry LE.

The Corolla hybrid is a significant step down, but with destination lists for $25,770, saving 4k off of the Camry.

If a non-hybrid was in the running, the awd Subaru Imprezza base is $25,530.

If he's gotten pre-approved for a car loan at a bank, the interest rate is probably around 7% or so.

For a 5 year loan of 25k the interest payments for a 7% loan would be about $5000

In comparison, Subaru has 5 year loans on the Crosstrek of 1.9%.

For a 5 year loan of 25k at 1.9% the total interest paid would be about $1250., which would save $3700 over a bank loan.

I appreciate the information, but I'm deliberately not overstimulating him with information. He has his preferences, and I don't want to push an agenda onto him.

I don't know anything about the loan he's qualified for. He's a smart kid - he was accepted into West Point, but had to decline due to a nut allergy - and this process is about him making his own decisions, not the ones his mom or uncle are making for him.

stickguy

they have no interest in a lease? one of the use cases that makes sense is a younger person starting out that can make a payment but does not have a lot of money to put up.

roadburner

From a friend’s blog:

laurasdada

I'm in a contest to win one of those (the BMW Corolla, per above). What to do with it when I win?

qbrozen

qbrozen said:

Oh, I know. The ALF connection kind of appealed to me. lol.

Came to a decision on my first choice:
SLOALF (I hope there will be separation like all NJ plates but maybe not)

They ask for 3, so I'm going with (2) ALF156 and (3) 98ALFA

andres3

stickguy said:

spending my life in the NE, home of the worlds biggest potholes, has made me very aware of the benefits of a substantial amount of rubber on the wheels.

One more comment about sidewall and we are all going to chip in on your birthday to get you a set of these:

andres3

I could go for a Macan EV as the one negative of the Macan Turbo is that it likes to guzzle gas (though my commute is much less these days). The negative of the Macan EV is that I could get three '18 Macan Turbos for how much they were asking in the showroom.

tjc78

@qbrozen said:
Came to a decision on my first choice:
SLOALF (I hope there will be separation like all NJ plates but maybe not)

They ask for 3, so I'm going with (2) ALF156 and (3) 98ALFA

I’ve seen plates without separation… you may have to specify.

I like SLOALF

roadburner

laurasdada said:

I'm in a contest to win one of those (the BMW Corolla, per above). What to do with it when I win?

I've entered several raffles for new BMWs; should I win one it will be immediately sold or traded for something that I'd actually want.

Michaell

stickguy said:

they have no interest in a lease? one of the use cases that makes sense is a younger person starting out that can make a payment but does not have a lot of money to put up.

Quick update. Nephew got approved for a $20K loan from a local credit union for 5.49%. Need to find the loan term, but he's found an Accord Hybrid Sport close by that he's interested in.

Michaell

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

they have no interest in a lease? one of the use cases that makes sense is a younger person starting out that can make a payment but does not have a lot of money to put up.

Quick update. Nephew got approved for a $20K loan from a local credit union for 5.49%. Need to find the loan term, but he's found an Accord Hybrid Sport close by that he's interested in.

60 month term.

2023 Accord Hybrid Sport, black on black, 36,000 miles for $27,xxx.

stickguy

not that much less than a new one. But I guess if that is the most you can spend, that's what you get.

Michaell

stickguy said:

not that much less than a new one. But I guess if that is the most you can spend, that's what you get.

A new Hybrid Sport retails for about $35K, so a decent discount. Yes, the Honda tax is alive and well.

corvette

@oldfarmer50 - I've liked the Brooks shoes I've had (Uncle Warren encourages stockholders to spend money at the company store, and they own Brooks). Merrill are also really good.

stickguy

my running (well, I walk in them) shoes are Saucony's, but my wife will only Brooks. my casual slip on summer shoes are Sketchers. Most comfortable boat style shoes out there.

love my Columbia hiker boots too.

and I case I ever get a Corvette, I do have a fresh pair of New Balance white cross trainers upstairs. And my knee high tube socks from the 80's are still floating around too!